2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[Ashokk]

Greta Thunberg voices support to calls for postponement of NEET, JEE exams

LONDON: Swedish teen climate change campaigner Greta Thunberg on Tuesday threw her weight behind postponing the NEET and the JEE exams in India in view of the coronavirus, saying it is “deeply unfair” that students are asked to appear in the tests during the pandemic.

[komal]

^
I wonder what she thinks of CBI role in SSR case, airport privatization in Trivandaurm, and MS Dhoni retiring.

[Ambar]

Say what you will but got to give it to Modi and Shah for accurately assessing the danger quotient of Subramanian Swamy right from the beginning. They knew he was untrustworthy, a ruthless opportunist and a perennial troublemaker and hence was kept an arms length away. I guess Congress knew him all too well as well that they too ignored him throughout the 90s and 00s. After spending the last 5 years of second guessing his own party's policies, the PM, and trying to shoot arrows at the bow on all matters from Ram Janmabhoomi to economics to security, he has latched himself as the savior of justice for Sushant Singh and now as a messiah for students demanding postponement of NEET/JEE.

Years ago i remember reading what makes the liberal-left so lethal is that they always attach themselves to the causes of people who are easy to mobilize and who get ready sympathy in society, namely : the workers, women, students and minorities. Swamy carefully tries to instigate each of these categories against a democratically elected government run by his own party. He uses VHP to attack RSS, uses his rabble rousing followers on twitter to attack the PM and the government, and his new found popularity on 24x7 news channels instill doubts and foment trouble for BJP. Its no wonder that even Jayalalitha was wary of this guy within few short years.

[Ambar]

The global nexus, media reach and ability to connect and rapidly mobilize makes the left such a dangerous ideology. Look at the reach of desi left, they went on a PR blitzkrieg after Kathua rape case by hiring bollywood to hollywood - from Kareena Kapoor to Emma Watson, and now they have hired jetsetting Greta "i've never been to school" Thunberg to postpone JEE/NEET exams ! I guess none of these worthies will protest against western universities to postpone beginning of the fall semester until Jan 2021 will they ?

[SRajesh]

Greta Thunberg voices support to calls for postponement of NEET, JEE exams

LONDON: Swedish teen climate change campaigner Greta Thunberg on Tuesday threw her weight behind postponing the NEET and the JEE exams in India in view of the coronavirus, saying it is “deeply unfair” that students are asked to appear in the tests during the pandemic.

And here she is going back to school
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/gr ... i-BB18lYyT

[hnair]

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I wonder what she thinks of CBI role in SSR case, airport privatization in Trivandaurm, and MS Dhoni retiring.

You following that muck up...

Can’t comment more as I am part of a bunch that has filed a lawsuit against the CPI-M government in High Court (plan to go to Supreme), using our hard earned money. We got some interesting support from all sides, overt and covert. Working on expanding it. And Central Aviation Minister this time has delivered a solid smack down

State government of Kerala has decisively jumped the shark, That too barely a year before elections. That “Historic second term” rhetoric is lower nowadays

[Sachin]

State government of Kerala has decisively jumped the shark, That too barely a year before elections. That “Historic second term” rhetoric is lower nowadays

Well, mysertious fires have also started popping up in the state Secretariat . Even ignoring the masala added by Kerala's media houses looks like there would be lot of events happening in KL over the next one year. If Amittu Shaaji has his way, the commies may find serious missiles coming towards them; with their usual crude bombs and machettes not able to match it.

[UBanerjee]

This leftist cabal looks like a well coordinated network of evil people bent on destroying native cultures of countries from USA to UK to India. I see a pattern on how they operate in all of these 'democracies'. But I have difficulty in discerning who is behind all this? The main mastermind/puppeteer controlling race riots, delhi riots, who is fascist and who is not. What gets to be published and what is not. Whose voices need to be muzzled and whose needs to be shown. It's like they are acting as a global neo fascist network working under the cover of being liberals. There is someone behind this. Any suggestions on any book illuminating on this topic?

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This is absolutely correct in terms of their goals. However I don't think there's any one mastermind. the thing witn this Anglo based leftist religion is that it is somewhat self organizing like a peer to peer network.

However there are dominant nodes which act as coordinators for the galaxy of lesser nodes. These are the top American universities as well as the top American media outlets. These (Harvard & Ivy League, NY Times, CNN, etc. ) are the head of the snake.

[UBanerjee]

The global nexus, media reach and ability to connect and rapidly mobilize makes the left such a dangerous ideology. Look at the reach of desi left, they went on a PR blitzkrieg after Kathua rape case by hiring bollywood to hollywood - from Kareena Kapoor to Emma Watson, and now they have hired jetsetting Greta "i've never been to school" Thunberg to postpone JEE/NEET exams ! I guess none of these worthies will protest against western universities to postpone beginning of the fall semester until Jan 2021 will they ?

Establishing control of media by the native nationalist elite is essential.

For this, it's necessary to create and train this native elite. This is where University comes in. Need to establish native university system dedicated to teaching, enlightening and promoting the motherland. This is critically important because it takes decades to bear fruit and the enemy has a huge head start.

Enemy weaknesses:
1) they operate in English almost exclusively, so places like China and Japan are almost immune to their penetration. (hence Hong Kong and Uyghurs are used as wedges against China).
2) they end up fighting amongst each other for the main prize (who controls the Anglosphere), and neglect the periphery (India, other emerging worlds)
3) they are decadent, and prone to selling out ideology for $, in effect giving up power for hedonism (rise of China)
4) they are given to increasingly bizarre indulgences which alienates potential converts (LGBTQ movements, especially Trans which is taking the West by storm)

However, we should never underestimate their ability to cause chaos, sow division, and smile on thugs and terrorsts (e.g. radical Islam, their long standing tool)

[chetak]

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I wonder what she thinks of CBI role in SSR case, airport privatization in Trivandaurm, and MS Dhoni retiring.

You following that muck up...

Can’t comment more as I am part of a bunch that has filed a lawsuit against the CPI-M government in High Court (plan to go to Supreme), using our hard earned money. We got some interesting support from all sides, overt and covert. Working on expanding it. And Central Aviation Minister this time has delivered a solid smack down

State government of Kerala has decisively jumped the shark, That too barely a year before elections. That “Historic second term” rhetoric is lower nowadays

airports are the jehadi gateways as well as, smoothly oiled the gold and reliable smuggling routes with no fear of the law.

baggage scanners for cargo as well as passengers are frequently sabotaged and run for years together without '"repairs".

they rolers and ropers have their own jehadi chamchas appointed at every level in the "management" of the airports and sea ports.

jobs in sea ports and airports are fiercely contested and savagely protected turfs and that are controlled on sectarian lines.

so much so that the UAE/eyerab consulates in KER reign like maharajas with the state govt paying abject obeisance.

the rolers try to control coastal constructions by doctoring environmental and erosion reports and raising semi scientific mumbo jumbo as their "learned and researched" objections. Motivated FFNGOs do the rest so that the hand is not visible.

their old bakra putthur popped off a while ago and it looks like they have found a new bakhra cut from the same cloth if not from exactly the similar cloth.

after all, clothes do make the man, no

[Suraj]

The simple answer the British did not leave India in 1947 and rules and laws are only for the average Joe. The simple truth he is probably a British Government representative set to control things. You don't become a Global Financial Center handling the money of shady characters by being totally clean.

If you're trying to answer the question on Dalrymple, sorry what you mention has no relation to the situation. We are discussing questions involving Indian immigration law and Dalrymple's specific immigration status in India.

[Suraj]

Someone needs to file an application under RTI for this information -- what is the kind of visa he has that allows him to hang around in India for 35 years and do any work he likes, dabble in political discourse, run Jaipur LIterature Festival (where he acts as the gatekeeper), run campaigns against Indian authors and prevents their books from getting published ....

Yes correct. Those on visas are typically discouraged from political activity, if not outright forbidden from doing so. There's no latitude to push back against the state in court, because visas do not accord any rights at all, only privileges that may be revoked. We've seen how those who overstayed or otherwise broken US or UK law are held in detention without recourse to basic laws of the land.

That is by design - immigration law is statutory and separate from the regular law of the land. You have no 'right' to petition your visa being revoked, or to 'stay' your deportation. Unlike common law that begins with the presumption of innocence, immigration law begins by presuming that you are guilty, and it's your job to prove your innocence adequately. Failure to do so gets you denied, and that is the default approach - "we will deny you, it's your problem to convince us why we should not"

As it stands, Dalrymple's status is:
* UK national, but resident in India for 35 years.
* no known OCI status (which might make all of his behavior acceptable - OCIs can do all that he is doing, including own property)
* employer(s) unknown
* does freelance actitivity
* engages in political activity

One might argue that Mallya is fighting deportation so Dalrymple could too. But that's not correct. Mallya is not fighting the law of the land - he is fighting India's attempts to extradite him. He's not being deported by UK. Dalrymple - if he holds some kind of visa - cannot fight deportation in Indian court, nor can the UK fight for him since they have no power over Indian law.

If Dalrymple has been a habitual immigration law breaker - which he would be if he's not an OCI - then he would be fighting Indian immigration law in India, and he's going to lose. Aatish Taseer already lost his fight, and his example makes it clear that the government has no problem going back to look at the file of someone who's broken the law. In Taseer's case, he lied on his OCI application, or his mother did. The details are irrelevant - he has a Pakistani father and by law he was never ever eligible for OCI, from the moment he was born.

I'm trying to understand what sort of visas India accords, and what their restrictions are. I'd appreciate anyone asking about this person's status on Twitter.

[V_Raman]

Done. handle is vramanx

[CRamS]

Guys, I see many a libarandus joyful that some court rule that Tabligis were not guilty of spreading the Chinese virus, and it was all a propaganda overdrive by BJP ecosystem. Ad they are demanding an apology. What is the gurus' take here?

[Suraj]

Done. handle is vramanx

Thanks. Please update here regularly too with any interesting information.

[KLNMurthy]

Hon. Court was bluffing. They thought they could haul up Bhushan and make him apologize.

Bhushan cleverly called their bluff by posing like a FoE martyr. He has “eminent and non-eminent” (his words) behind him. If SC jails him, look for massive hulla-gulla by black-coated fraternity.

Their Honors aren’t too bright to fall into the trap they set by themselves.

The court could easily take a stance of doing it in public good. They could award a judgement in which PB is ordered to help set up beds and clean the wards of new covid-19 facilities. Make tea and coffee for the Covid-19 patients and serve people for 3 months. Court could zimply say that considering the Covid situation, it's always better to have some extra helping hands.

I like the “become a chaiwala” punishment.

[KL Dubey]

The simple answer the British did not leave India in 1947 and rules and laws are only for the average Joe. The simple truth he is probably a British Government representative set to control things. You don't become a Global Financial Center handling the money of shady characters by being totally clean.

If you're trying to answer the question on Dalrymple, sorry what you mention has no relation to the situation. We are discussing questions involving Indian immigration law and Dalrymple's specific immigration status in India.

Someone could start by asking this guy on twitter what his visa status is and who is his sponsor.

[Suraj]

He’s probably going to respond by blocking anyone who asks, but it’s worth a try

If he’s anything other than an OCI, his activities are almost certainly beyond the privileges accorded to him by any professional visa. A visa holder:
- cannot do freelance work
- cannot volunteer in anything he receives consideration for . Even non cash favors are against the law. This is exactly the same in UK and US immigration law
- cannot participate in political activity . His twitter posts are evidence to be saved before he deletes them.

[KL Dubey]

He’s probably going to respond by blocking anyone who asks, but it’s worth a try

If he’s anything other than an OCI, his activities are almost certainly beyond the privileges accorded to him by any professional visa. A visa holder:
- cannot do freelance work
- cannot volunteer in anything he receives consideration for . Even non cash favors are against the law. This is exactly the same in UK and US immigration law
- cannot participate in political activity . His twitter posts are evidence to be saved before he deletes them.

Both he and his wife Olivia Fraser appear to have been fooling around in India since the late 1980s...staying partly in India and partly in UK.

I don't see any way they could be OCIs unless they had a great-grandparent/grandparent/parent who could claim Indian origin. Both these people seem to have ancestors who spent time in India during EIC/queen Vickie times.

If not OCIs, then they could conceivably have been living in India for many years by continually renewing 5-year business visas or employment visas. Doesn't seem to require a whole lot of documentation beyond getting a business partner or contract employer to write a letter for the visa every few years. Or maybe one of them is getting the business visa and the other tags along with some sort of spouse visa.

I agree the things that Dalrymple has been up to should be good reason to revoke any sort of visa.

[KL Dubey]

^^PS: This Fraser woman's ancestor Billy appears to have had Anglo-Indian offsprings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F ... l_servant)

The village of Rania, now in Haryana, "was home to Amiban, main mistress to William Fraser, and his two Anglo-Indian sons and daughter.[4]

The quoted reference is one of Dalrymple's articles.

And from the webpage of Billy's brother Jimmy, we find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baillie_Fraser

In January 1815 he went to join his brother William........William had Indian mistresses or bibis although little is known about his children.

[KL Dubey]

^^PPS: If one of these two (Fraser or Dalrymple) had managed to get a PIO card based on Anglo-Indian ancestors back during Vajapeyi sarkar, then they would have taken advantage of the "automatic" conversion facility of PIO cards into OCI cards in 2015, when the PIO scheme was closed by Modi sarkar.

Unlike Atish Trasheer who gave GOI a perfect reason to kick him out by lying on his OCI application, it may be harder to kick Dalrymple out unless it is a "no reason need be given" case.

[KL Dubey]

^^PPPS: The Brit interference in India is like an STD: a "gift that keeps giving". On one hand there are loopholes in the immigration system that allow Anglo-Indian ancestry to be exploited to enter India. On the other the UK maintains its "commonwealth citizen" scheme (discussed a few years ago here) which allows Indians to participate/collude in activities in the UK that are not allowed by Indian citizenship.

We really need to dump the "Commonwealth". And, as a long-suffering nation from Brit atrocities, it beats me why we don't club this country with Pakistan and BD as being ineligible for OCI.

[Suraj]

If he had a PIO during that time, but broke immigration law before that, his status can be invalidated. Same as YooEss - you can lose your green card for prior immigration law abuse .

[KL Dubey]

I would certainly trust a GOI babu to find a reason. As for YooEss, you can even lose naturalized citizenship if a prior irregularity/violation is unearthed.

[Suraj]

Loss of citizenship is a whole other topic dependent on a very different set of laws than vija/GC . With the former you’re no longer within the purview of USCIS and immigration law but dependent on Supreme Court derived case history . With vija/GC , ICE can and will have you deported as you mention .

I’m generally not a fan of PIO status to Anglo Indians. They already have both feet and an arm out of the door so to speak . Citizenship in India while holding permanent residency outside is a little more ok, but if the sum total of their ties is a tenuous immigration status , that’s nothing much at all . Most of their brood have already emigrated or are dead.

It’s also worthwhile to get rid of the two reserved seats for Anglo Indians , and make all 545 seats electable.

[KL Dubey]

Loss of citizenship is a whole other topic dependent on a very different set of laws than vija/GC . With the former you’re no longer within the purview of USCIS and immigration law but dependent on Supreme Court derived case

Not at all. Operation Janus for example. USCIS is very much involved in denaturalization.

[Suraj]

Interesting piece of information there. Had not read much about Operation Janus. Thanks.

Hopefully we'll learn more about Dalrymple's immigration status soon.

[V_Raman]

Done. handle is vramanx

Thanks. Please update here regularly too with any interesting information.

please retweet - otherwise it dosent go anywhere...

[KJo]

Greta Thunberg voices support to calls for postponement of NEET, JEE exams

And here she is going back to school
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/gr ... i-BB18lYyT

The GT phenomenon is a win-win for all parties involved.
The left has realized that using adults for their causes has limited value. People just ignore them. So now using kids as "activists" is the trend. So they find someone who is young, female and usually good looking. They got the first two with Greta. The deal is that the left liberandus get their cause in the front page of the papers and make more headway and create more chaos. For the young "activist", this is a resume builder for a future college admission seat. Top schools like Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Oxford etc are generally left leaning and love these types who have successfully differentiated themselves from the other kids. You might remember Gurmehar "Pak didn't kill dad, war did" Kaur. She had all 3 of the qualities above. She was recruited, they even ghost-wrote a book for her and now she is quietly studing at Oxford University. Any of these schools would love to have people like her. Malala, the paki who got shot by the Taliban and ended up with a Nobel Prize for that also went to Oxford.

So Greta is headed for Harvard in a year or two. Her admission is virtually guaranteed.

[chetak]

^^PPS: If one of these two (Fraser or Dalrymple) had managed to get a PIO card based on Anglo-Indian ancestors back during Vajapeyi sarkar, then they would have taken advantage of the "automatic" conversion facility of PIO cards into OCI cards in 2015, when the PIO scheme was closed by Modi sarkar.

Unlike Atish Trasheer who gave GOI a perfect reason to kick him out by lying on his OCI application, it may be harder to kick Dalrymple out unless it is a "no reason need be given" case.

there are some mentions on twitter about his OCI card.

It's doubtful if he would be allowed to own property in Indian unless, of course, it's inherited in some way.

[chetak]

they are apparently running their own islamic kingdom.

G U R U P R A S A D(Cauliflower Farmer)@KarnatakaSanghi·3h

Muslim organisation Jamaat-e- Sunnat gives Rs 50000 compensation to each rioter who died in firing during Bengaluru riots.
Earlier, Congress MLA Zameer Ahmed had announced Rs 5 lakh to each dead rioter and JDS corporator Imran Pasha had announced Rs 2 lakh to each dead rioter.

[chetak]

Press Trust of India@PTI_News·17m

NCB registers criminal case against actor Rhea Chakraborty, others to probe their alleged dealings in banned drugs: Officials

[sanjayc]

^^PPS: If one of these two (Fraser or Dalrymple) had managed to get a PIO card based on Anglo-Indian ancestors back during Vajapeyi sarkar, then they would have taken advantage of the "automatic" conversion facility of PIO cards into OCI cards in 2015, when the PIO scheme was closed by Modi sarkar.

Unlike Atish Trasheer who gave GOI a perfect reason to kick him out by lying on his OCI application, it may be harder to kick Dalrymple out unless it is a "no reason need be given" case.

there are some mentions on twitter about his OCI card.

It's doubtful if he would be allowed to own property in Indian unless, of course, it's inherited in some way.

Foreigners cannot get OCI card. He is a White guy.

[Suraj]

Foreigners cannot get OCI card. He is a White guy.

I suggest you read the rules of OCI first. Mark Tully is an OCI , for example. It's possible for non-Indians to get OCI by marriage for example.
OCI Services gov.in portal

A foreign national, - (i) who was a citizen of India at the time of, or at any time after 26th January, 1950; or (ii) who was eligible to become a citizen of India on 26th January, 1950; or (iii) who belonged to a territory that became part of India after 15th August, 1947; or (iv) who is a child or a grandchild or a great grandchild of such a citizen; or (v) who is a minor child of such persons mentioned above; or (vi) who is a minor child and whose both parents are citizens of India or one of the parents is a citizen of India - is eligible for registration as OCI cardholder.

Besides, spouse of foreign origin of a citizen of India or spouse of foreign origin of an Overseas Citizen of India Cardholder and whose marriage has been registered and subsisted for a continuous period of not less than two years immediately preceding the presentation of the application is also eligible for registration as OCI cardholder.

However, no person, who or either of whose parents or grandparents or great grandparents is or had been a citizen of Pakistan, Bangladesh or such other country as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify, shall be eligible for registration as an Overseas Citizen of India Cardholder.

Foreign nationals cannot apply for OCI in India while on Tourist Visa, Missionary Visa and Mountaineering Visa. Moreover, the foreigner has to be ordinarily resident of India to be eligible to apply for OCI registration in India.

Note: 'ordinarily resident' will mean a person staying in a particular country or in India for a continuous period of 6 months.

The quoted part about TSP/BD is why Aatish Taseer was ineligible from birth for an OCI.
Bureau of Immigration: OCI

(a) The following categories of persons (except Pakistan and Bangladesh) are eligible to apply under OCI scheme:
Who is a citizen of another country, but was a citizen of India at the time of, or at any time after, the commencement of the constitution; or
Who is a citizen of another country, but was eligible to become a citizen of India at the time of the commencement of the constitution; or
Who is a citizen of another country, but belonged to a territory that became part of India after the 15th day of August, 1947; or
Who is a child or a grand-child or a great grandchild of such a citizen; or

(b) A person, who is minor child of a person mentioned in clause (a); or (c) A person, who is a minor child, and whose both parents are citizens of India or one of the parents is a citizen of India; or (d) Spouse of foreign origin of a citizen of India or spouse of foreign origin of an Overseas Citizen of india Cardholder registered under section 7A, Citizenship Act 1955 and whose marriage has been registered and subsisted for a continuous period of not less than two years immediately preceding the presentation of the application under this section:
Provided that no person, who is or had been a citizen of Pakistan, Bangladesh or such other country as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify, shall be eligible for the registration as Overseas Citizen of India Cardholder.

It's not clear Dalrymple satisfies any of the 4 options in (a) , but perhaps his wife qualifies by way of Anglo-Indian family. It's worth continuing to ask people for more about this . If he's a visa holder, he has no place in India given his interference.

[chetak]

^^^^^^^

or (ii) who was eligible to become a citizen of India on 26th January, 1950;

besides, tully was born in tollygunge in India in 1935.

[Suraj]

Yes I know. I was covering the 'white guy cannot be an OCI' part. I know he was born in India.

[chetak]

Yes I know. I was covering the 'white guy cannot be an OCI' part. I know he was born in India.

That post wasn't meant for you, saar

[sanjayc]

If white guys can get OCI, then it is only a matter of time before MI6 starts pushing whites into India in truckloads (citing grandparents born in India, etc.). These guys will then be pushed into becoming lawyers, judges, editors, NGO owners, book publishing houses ... this is a big loophole that can be exploited

[Suraj]

Ah oops It's seems fairly clear Dalrymple (born 1965) has no direct claim to OCI, ands so if he does have the status, had to have come through his wife. That seems tenuous; if it is confirmed that he's a visa holder, the Bureau of Immigration and other government arms needs a few nudges.

[sanjayc]

OCI card be cancelled for activities inimical to Indian interests. It is a privilege, not a fundamental right