2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 02 Oct 2020 12:28

Politics of rape in India ... from twitter. No matter how distasteful a subject it has to be stated ...

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Oct 2020 13:08

a manipulative "father" of the nation or a deluded stretcher bearer of the raj, a house negro whose loyalty to his colonial masters and muslim fundamentalist sepatatists has directly led to the deliberate charkhaziation of the Hindu society and kept us in enforced poverty since independence due to his wonky ideas of village self-rule and village republics both as institutions of parallel politics and as units of economic autonomy.

his slyly malicious insistence on ahimsa that was exclusively reserved and enforced only on the majority with every intention of cowing them down and psychologically preparing them to be subservient to the often violent dictates of the abrahamic invaders.

that, a madrassa chap illiterate like this foreign (mecca) born "maulana" abul kalam azad wound up as India's first education minister was a was a clear telegraphing of future intent by these very same abrahamic invaders who were cheered on by this "mahatma".

The malicious RTE act is a deliberate attempt to kill any attempt at Hindu civilizational revival and should be seen as the first step in the deliberate pursuit of cultural genocide instigated by the BIF and implemented by an unelected and unelectable body of communist thugs led by the fundamantalist eyetalian mafiosi famiglia.

the muslims and the britshits, now conveniently replaced by the commie & conversion brigades, controlled and manipulated the Hindus by the perifidous, treacherous and underhand influence over this one man just like the commies & conversion brigades and the muslims are doing even today while covertly supporting the violence prone naxals and all the while professing "gandhian" ideals.

the frequent references to "gandhi" by the jinnahwalli aazadi types among the shaheenbagh's seditious traitors did not and should not go unnoticed.

without this man, India would probably been freed of the yoke of foreign rule many years before 1947 with possibly disastrous consequences for the britshits on the eventual outcome of WWI

at the end of the day, we all tend to forget that it was Bose, not gandhi, who actually ended the britshit rule in India.

if it were upto gandhi, our kindergarten kids would, even today, have been trilling "god save the queen" on a daliy basis.

Mahatma Gandhi wanted the Union Jack on India’s national flag, said he will not salute it if Charkha is replaced by Ashoka Chakra

Mahatma Gandhi wanted the Union Jack on India’s national flag, said he will not salute it if Charkha is replaced by Ashoka Chakra

Mahatma Gandhi was anguished that India's Constituent Assembly rejected Lord Mountbatten's flag proposal which included Union Jack in the canton of India's tricolour flag

2 October, 2020
Jinit Jain

Mahatma Gandhi Jayanti: Gandhiji wanted the Union Jack on India’s national flag, said he will not salute it if Charkha is replaced by Ashoka Chakra

Mahatma Gandhi, Creative rendering of the India's flag he wanted

Today is the birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi, a day when the nation pays its tribute to the ‘father of the nation’. Although Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi led India’s non-violent independence movement, he didn’t join the government even though he was a leader of the Congress party. And just like he kept a distance from the government, he had also maintained a distance from the symbol of newly independent India, the flag of the nation.

The design for the tricolour was unanimously accepted by the constituent assembly on July 22, 1947, days before India attained its Independence from the British, during a meeting held by the Constituent Assembly comprising of eminent personalities such as Rajendra Prasad and including Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, Sarojini Naidu, C. Rajagopalachari, K. M. Munshi and B. R. Ambedkar.

The flag is based on the Swaraj flag, a flag of the Indian National Congress designed by Pingali Venkayya. The present Indian flag contains three equal strips of saffron, white and green, with a navy blue ‘Ashok Chakra’ with 24 spokes at the centre. The flag, presented by India’s first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, in the constituent assembly on July 22, 1947, served as the national flag of the Dominion of India between 15 August 1947 and 26 January 1950 and has served as the flag of the Republic of India since then.

However, while India adopted tricolour with Ashok Chakra at the centre as its national flag, Mohandas Gandhiji was not pleased with the flag proposed by the Constituent Assembly. In one of the letters written by Gandhiji, which is published in “The collected works of Mahatma Gandhi”, the ‘Father of the Nation’ expressed his objection with the flag adopted by the Constituent Assembly. He was unhappy with the design due to two reasons, absence of the union jack, and replacing the charkha (spinning wheel) with the Ashoka Chakra.

Mahatma Gandhi supported the inclusion of Union Jack in the canton of the Indian tricolour

In his letter, Gandhiji conveyed his support for the flag proposed by the last British viceroy of India, Lord Mountbatten. The proposal of the flag presented by the Governor-General Louis Mountbatten in 1947 included the flag of the Congress but with a Union Jack in the canton. However, the flag was rejected by Jawaharlal Nehru, claiming that Congress’ nationalist members would see the inclusion of the Union Jack as being overly deferential to the British.

Indian Flag proposed by Lord Mountbatten

In his letter, Gandhiji defended the inclusion of the Union Jack canton in India’s national flag. Gandhiji contended that though British might have inflicted harm on the Indians, it was not done by their flag. Extolling the British for “voluntarily withdrawing from India” and urging Indians to take note of virtues of the British, he made the case for the adoption of the flag proposed by Lord Mountbatten.

Relevant sections from Mahatma Gandhi’s letter
“But what is wrong with having the Union Jack in a corner of our flag? If harm has been done to us by the British, it has not been done by their flag and we must also take note of the virtues of the British. They are voluntarily withdrawing from India, leaving power in our hands,” said Mahatma Gandhi lamenting over the rejection of the Union Jack in India’s national flag.

Gandhi lamented India could not show “generosity and friendship”
Gandhi further added, “We are having Lord Mountbatten as our chief gate-keeper. So long he has been the servant of the British King. Now, he is to be our servant. If while we employed him as our servant, we also had the Union Jack in a corner of our flag, there would be no betrayal of India in this.”

Relevant sections from Mahatma Gandhi’s letter
Gandhi further added in his letter that he was pained to see Congress leaders not extending the “generosity and friendship” to the British. “If I had the power that I once had, I would have taken people to task for it. After all, why should we give up our humanity,” said Gandhi while expressing her angst over Constituent Assembly’s dismissal of incorporating the symbol of Union Jack in India’s national flag.

Gandhi said he would not salute the flag without the Charkha
Mahatma Gandhi had prefered the flag that the Congress party had adopted in 1931, with the saffron, white and green stripes and the blue charkha in the middle on the white strip. He wanted the same flag to be adopted by independent India with the Union Jack. Therefore, when the proposals were made to replace the charkha with the Ashoka Chakra came, he was so unhappy that he had declared that he will refuse to salute the flag.

In a statement made in Lahore on 6 August 1947, Gandhi said, “I must say that, if the Flag of the Indian Union will not embody the emblem of the Charkha, I will refuse to salute that flag. You know the National Flag of India was first thought of by me, and I cannot conceive of India’s National Flag without the emblem of the Charkha”.

This quote can be found in volume 96 of the Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi. Jawaharlal Nehru had tried to convince him saying that the design change is not significant, and the chakra in the new National Flag symbolizes the charkha also. Rejecting the argument that the chakra represents the Sudarshan Chakra also, Gandhiji has said, “Some describe the wheel-mark as Sudarshan Chakra, but I know what Sudarshan Chakra means.”

He had also written in Harijanbandhu, “Nothing would have lost if our councillors had never thought of interfering with the design of the original flag.” Rejecting the selection of the Chakra on artistic reasons, he wrote, “I will refuse to salute the flag that is modified on the above lines however artistic it may appear” (chapter 222 in volume 96 of the Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi).

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Oct 2020 17:14

Minhaz Merchant@MinhazMerchant·2h

Congress-Left cabal sees UP CM @myogiadityanath exactly as it saw Modi after 2002 — an existential political threat... the new Maut ka Saudagar. Sonia Gandhi was first to recognise the threat Modi posed to decades of entitled Cong rule & was proved right. Yogi is now Target no. 1

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Oct 2020 17:23

Kunthavi @Kunthavi5

A great man was born on this day, who lived a simple honest life, loved his country, worked for the country 24 x 7, even while taking flights. His life got snuffed out untimely by callous political opponents.

Jai Jawan Jai Kisaan. Remembering Lal Bahadur Shastri Ji
6:43 AM · Oct 2, 2020

and, as usual, the incomparable, the inimitable and the ever politically perspicacious RK Laxman says it best of all.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 02 Oct 2020 17:40

https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status ... 7416658944

84% of all crimes against Dalits took place in 9 states

Read this and more in today's #TimesTop10: Special stories of the day, curated by our editors, delivered to your inbox

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 Oct 2020 18:12

On Haathras , lot of noise less signal ..channels trying to turn it into waterloo for Yogi

उत्तर प्रदेश में माताओं-बहनों के सम्मान-स्वाभिमान को क्षति पहुंचाने का विचार मात्र रखने वालों का समूल नाश सुनिश्चित है।

इन्हें ऐसा दंड मिलेगा जो भविष्य में उदाहरण प्रस्तुत करेगा।

आपकी
@UPGovt
प्रत्येक माता-बहन की सुरक्षा व विकास हेतु संकल्पबद्ध है।

यह हमारा संकल्प है-वचन है।
Yogi Response https://twitter.com/myogiadityanath/sta ... 78848?s=20

Minhaz Merchant
@MinhazMerchant
Congress-Left cabal sees UP CM
@myogiadityanath
exactly as it saw Modi after 2002 — an existential political threat... the new Maut ka Saudagar. Sonia Gandhi was first to recognise the threat Modi posed to decades of entitled Cong rule & was proved right. Yogi is now Target no.

https://twitter.com/MinhazMerchant/stat ... 37025?s=20

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Oct 2020 18:45

let's hope that this is true.

There have been many other similar and suspicious deaths in the recent past, in bollywood, that may just tie in to the very same narrative of drugs, child sex and child trafficking

let's also hope that penguins are taught a lesson and the many pakis in bullywood do not escape this time around like sanjay dutt did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gurXm6PdUCw

Sushant Case: CBI Director To Sign File On 302 Charges Tomorrow | Sources Oct 2, 2020

In a major development in the Sushant Singh Rajput death case, the Central Bureau of Investigation's (CBI's) Director will take a decision on whether Section 302 of the IPC (Murder) will be added to the case. This comes as the CBI is set to begin its second leg of investigation in the late actor's death case. The CBI has maintained that "no angles have been ruled out" and has reassured through a statement on Monday that the investigation is being conducted in a professional manner.

According to sources, the CBI director will examine the case files and could sign-off on adding Section 302 tomorrow, after AIIMS submit a report on its forensic findings. It was earlier reported that the team of experts will be releasing an official statement, that could be about the findings of their analysis, on Saturday. The team’s report, which allegedly did not rule out the murder angle, had become a massive talking point before

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 02 Oct 2020 19:06

#islam #jihad #insallah

Uttar Pradesh: Hindu woman shot dead by her husband, accused had married her falsely pretending to be ‘Rajkumar’
https://www.opindia.com/2020/10/uttar-p ... alse-name/

Uttar Pradesh: 20-year-olds Danish and Rizwan rape minor girls in Azamgarh and Bulandshahr respectively, both arrested
https://www.opindia.com/2020/10/uttar-p ... -arrested/

Uttar Pradesh: 22-year-old Dalit woman gang-raped in Balrampur, two accused Shahid and Sahil arrested
https://www.opindia.com/2020/10/uttar-p ... -arrested/

Lust for property, forced conversion to Islam and brutality: More details emerge in Sonbhadra beheading case
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/sonbhad ... -jihad-up/
The police had nabbed the main accused Ejaz Ahmed and his accomplice Shoaib Akhtar, after the beheaded body of the Hindu girl Priya was recovered from the forest area near Preet Nagar under the Chopan police station area on September 21 (Monday).

Kanpur Police inches closer to bust the Love Jihad racket, nabs a woman advocate who prepared fake documents for the accused
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/kanpur- ... d-accused/

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 02 Oct 2020 19:10

Too many Muslims hiding under Hindu names to fool Hindu women and marry then. They they reveal they are Muslim after marriage. Modi needs to make a law with 10 years imprisonment for hiding one's religion to mislead the woman.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 02 Oct 2020 19:24

Right now there's very minimal coverage of jihad committed by islamists on females. Opindia staff can hardly cover the whole India and keep up with it.

There's UP election coming and Yogi was going after love jihad. So it's not far fetched to assume that BIF wanted narratives changed. Tons of money was poured in for anti CAA protests. Countries like china would have know problem sparing few billions if they have to to get rid of BJP governments.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Oct 2020 19:29

sanjayc wrote:Too many Muslims hiding under Hindu names to fool Hindu women and marry then. They they reveal they are Muslim after marriage. Modi needs to make a law with 10 years imprisonment for hiding one's religion to mislead the woman.

make it mandatory to register all such marriages only under the special marriages act. all children of such marriages should be brought up as Hindu only, if the girl is Hindu.

no nikah should be allowed and no inheritance of family property by the girl from her side of the family unless the marriage is long lasting.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 19:59

Yogi gov has made mistakes here. The most serious one is forcing the family to cremate the body at night. Then blocking access to village. So media starts creating stories. Rather they should have given access to channels who promise to report the situation as it is. So far all actions seem like damage control exercise, rather than working on making a fullproof case against the culprits. Makes it seem as if there is something to hide.

I will bet that even SIT report will not be able to calm things down.
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PTI - UP police suspicious action in hathras case dented your, state gov and BJP's image: Uma Bharti to Yogi Adityanath

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 02 Oct 2020 20:55

Uma Bharati has been disposed to the political dustbin just like Yashwant Sinha, Shourie, Shatrugan Sinha and few others. She cannot fathom why Mahant Yogi Adityanath's flag rise higher and higher for turning UP from India's "Wild west" into a responsible state which strives to improve the lives of its citizens despite its sheer population and poverty. Uma Bharti wanted to replace Shivraj Singh Chouhan as the CM ! Had that happened MP would have firmly been under INC for the last 14 yrs.

That aside the whole Hathras rape case is as murky as the Kathua rape and murder few years ago. It also shows that BJP does not have the cunningness, ability to mobilize cadres, and the killer instinct that congress has perfected for nearly a century. Yes, whether there was rape or no rape a terrible crime was committed on a young girl, the govt should have foreseen what the left media cabal and political opponents will do with this story but once again BJP is caught on the defense. An India Today reporter was caught on camera coaching the brother of the victim to make a cellphone video of his father and asking him to say he is under pressure from the govt and the police. If this isnt' agenda driven politics of a gruesome crime then i don't know what else is. Rape is a terrible crime on both the victim and their families, the hypocrisy is when there is selective outrage. RJ had multiple rapes on the same day including that of 3 tourists which barely made the news, but we have everyone from Rahul Gandhi, Priyanka, Derek Obrien, Kejriwal tripping over each other to milk the hathras rape case.

UP under Yogiji is known for "quick justice". Everyone from big mafia dons to smalltime hoodlums with extensive rapsheets have been sent to meet their 72 virgins. Seeing how the govt seem to be unsure what to do with the 4 accused makes me believe that they have doubts about the whole story. The other aspect which needs to be investigated is how did the girl die in Delhi when she did not look nor sound critical while talking on the camera but ended up dead just hours later. The disposal of the body did have permission from the family members maybe not the mother. It is a tangled case which will need to be carefully untangled once the dust settles, though all the politics and our monkey-media is making the lives of investigators as difficult as possible.

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 02 Oct 2020 21:05

Sicanta wrote:Yogi gov has made mistakes here. The most serious one is forcing the family to cremate the body at night. Then blocking access to village. So media starts creating stories. Rather they should have given access to channels who promise to report the situation as it is. So far all actions seem like damage control exercise, rather than working on making a fullproof case against the culprits. Makes it seem as if there is something to hide.

I will bet that even SIT report will not be able to calm things down.
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PTI - UP police suspicious action in hathras case dented your, state gov and BJP's image: Uma Bharti to Yogi Adityanath

There is another angle to it, as per Rizwan Ahmed. He claims it was the right thing to do as waiting for 'relatives' to show up in the morning would have created a massive law and order problem. He cites the case of Kamlesh Tiwari whose body was similarly cremated far from his home in a rushed manner to prevent Hindu mobs from using the incident as a political plank.

Whatever the reasons, you can bet this is not going away and the BIF are in full force. The BBC is in the act now as well, reporting on the police actions. Strange thing for a country to say when it took over 10 yrs for them to bring the Yorkshire grooming gang to trial.

On a different note, it is unclear if there was rape involved at all. As per the initial hospital reports.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 02 Oct 2020 21:34

Why's it so far fetched to think that the govt officials could have been roped in here to make things worse? I'm still not convinced that there's no deliberate ploy here with elections coming in and Yogi going after islamists and their jihad.

All the checkboxes being met, everyone ready to execute, and all opposing political entities ready to play their part. We have seen this before multiple times from 2002 to saffron terror to anti CAA.

Not sure what Yogi could have done here if it's the bureaucracy and govt officials who have their own agenda and loyalties someplace else. Even judicial system is also pitching in. The same judicial system that has been ignoring daily atrocities committed by islamists on females.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 21:49

Yogi gov has been much more strict with bureaucracy so far and seems to have handpicked officers occupying important positions. To me it seems more like that the bureaucrats have been leading the response so far instead of public leaders, therefore the ham handed response. Atleast someone high enough like the 2 deputy chief ministers could have been the face of Gov response instead of only allowing officers to interact with media.

As for HC only taking up Hathras case and overlooking Balrampur, it was expected. Gov and judiciary has been at loggerhead with each other

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 21:53

[quote="Primus"][/quote]

Well, they should have made proper arrangements to ensure a proper cremation. What they actually did only has sown doubts in the general public and has cast shadow even on legitimate actions so far.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 02 Oct 2020 21:58

What could have been this proper arrangements?

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 22:07

Like indeed allowing the body to be cremated in the morning, as per family's wish. A senior minister visiting the village to meet the family and village elders, convey the gov resolve to get rapid justice. If possible, arrange a press meet to put out the official details of the case and goc response and future course of action, instead of random statements by sundry officers. There is no cohesiveness in the response, lack of which allows stories to be planted. Show that gov cares instead of tweeting the 'resolve' as shared by indrad ji

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 02 Oct 2020 22:17

Primus wrote:
Sicanta wrote:The BBC is in the act now as well, reporting on the police actions. Strange thing for a country to say when it took over 10 yrs for them to bring the Yorkshire grooming gang to trial.

And spend millions to protect the identity of James Bulger's killer

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 22:27

Uma Bharti ji is making very valid points here

https://mobile.twitter.com/umasribharti ... 4669304832

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 02 Oct 2020 22:53

..and not even a cursory comment from her on the alarming number of rapes in RJ. If she thinks she is scoring hindu RW brownie points by attacking Yogiji then she is in the same boat as Su Swamy , Yashwant Sinha and others. UP govt has already suspended all the senior officers who initially handled the case, the investigation has begun and the accused behind bars. Opposition milking the situation is understandable, what does she gain by shooting arrows at her own party ?

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 23:02

What has RJ got to do with this? I think there is merit to her points. As for the suspension of SP and other police officers based on preliminary report, it shows that gov knows they are losing the plot.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 1lxTP.html

Meanwhile,

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news ... aOD7L.html

Result of ADG law making a statement instead of allowing the SIT to conduct investigation and come out with a comprehensive report.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 02 Oct 2020 23:14

None of this people were coming out and talking about islamists committing murders and rapes on daily basis. Does Uma even have stats on that if she's so much for Hindu causes? She was not heard anywhere before this talking about this subject on the regular basis. And, she can take her lessons about running something somewhere else. She had hard time getting projects assigned to her executed in right manners. Only person that has merits to giving any lectures to Yogi would be Modi. Street credits and performances matter here.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 Oct 2020 23:16

Sicanta, what is going on was expected. Once anti-Hindu BIF decided to make hay on this tragic, horrific rape in UP, Yogi had to counterattack. Now that cremation, behavior of some police etc have to be seen in this light. Had Pappu and Co succeeded we would have seen mass hartals and agitations on the streets. Its still not pretty, I mean the heat Yogi and India are taking, but it could have been worse. This is like Bhima Koregaon. Us Hindus are up against sheer evil.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 02 Oct 2020 23:27

The question is not just about RJ but every other non-BJP governed state where rapes and other serious crimes are not politicized nor given any airtime to force those state governments into action. UP's population is larger than most countries in the world, a terrible crime has been committed on a poor woman and it is being investigated by the govt with all seriousness . Rahul Gandhi, Derek O'Brien, Priyanka Vadra and the leftist media cabal wouldn't give the time of the day to talk to victims of rapes & their families in other states governed by their parties , why the selective outrage ? Or is it because this case helps them cut down Yogi Adityanath's stature but they gain nothing from speaking against Gehlots or Thackerays of this world ?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 Oct 2020 23:40

Ambar, thats exactly what it is. But question is how to counter these traitors. Now its east to pontificate, but I think among all the counter moves YogiJi and Co made, that cremation part could have been done differently IMO. But then again who knows what the BIF game plan was which YogiJi and Co must have got hold off and hence went ahead with this late night cremation.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 23:48

Of course, the issue is being politicized. The victim and her family is no more than a tool, to be employed to tar a Gov which so far had a clean and strong record. But what i am concerned about is the lack in response from gov itself.

Though, I may be entirely wrong since I am only basing my opinion on publicly known facts.

As for RJ and others, soon to take byelection is not going to be affected by what happens there.

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 02 Oct 2020 23:50

This is like the Rohit Vemulla incident all over again. There too, the opposition made a lot of noise, in the end the poor guy was not even a Dalit, it turns out.

The idea is to divide the Hindu votes further, best way to do this is to carve out the Dalit votes, BehenJi tried it but failed, this is just another attempt to do so. A very similar tragedy takes place on the same day in the same state, the victim there too is a poor dalit woman, but because the perpetrators were muslim, and any noise would get the BJP more leverage, it is not worth chasing.

It is so sad that politics in India is so predatory.

When the truth comes out, I bet there will be a different story behind the hasty cremation in the middle of the night. Which is why so much galata is being made, even by the RW media and supporters - every one is lambasting the Yogi government and the local police. If you stop to think about it, why would the police do so, knowing full well that this act will raise so many questions. There has to have been a very valid reason and I think the choice was difficult but they went with the lesser of the two evils.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 02 Oct 2020 23:59

Primus wrote: The idea is to divide the Hindu votes further, best way to do this is to carve out the Dalit votes, BehenJi tried it but failed, this is just another attempt to do so. A very similar tragedy takes place on the same day in the same state, the victim there too is a poor dalit woman, but because the perpetrators were muslim, and any noise would get the BJP more leverage, it is not worth chasing.

We will know soon enough.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemi ... 253D#ampf=

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 03 Oct 2020 00:53

some BJP politicians are unhappy with rising stature of Yogi and they are hand in glove with congress, Uma Bharti seems to be one.

Btw this one is quite revealing

so far it emerges:

No gang rape
No rape
One man did murder
BJP local MP involved against Yogi possibly
Dalit card played to cause unrest
Aajtak emerges as threat to national security

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 03 Oct 2020 02:45

Uma Bharati is making some noises. Wonder if she has an agenda at play or is she expressing genuine concern. If the latter, I would have expected her to take it up with YogiJi instead of going public. So I suspect its the former.

This bloody SoB Rahul Kanwal of India Today seems to be like a turn coat. He did well in his analysis of Chincom aggression, but on UP has ganged up with the rest of BIF against BJP.

My own feeling was given that flow chart someone drew above, this tragic rape and killing of that young girl had all the ingredients for BIF to go beserk and sure they did. It was going to get ugly from the get go. YogiJi may have done the best he could. This could go away from the headlines in a few days.

Raveen · Post by **Raveen** » 03 Oct 2020 03:00

CRamS wrote:This bloody SoB Rahul Kanwal of India Today seems to be like a turn coat. He did well in his analysis of Chincom aggression, but on UP has ganged up with the rest of BIF against BJP.

I hate to say but I told everyone - he is never to be trusted. He didn't turn out to be a turncoat, he just had us fooled for a little bit. His papa is the great mastermind behind gifting Siachen away and he peddled that on his channel forever.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 03 Oct 2020 03:03

Going through the probability tree, I still don't see any compelling reason to believe that many things can't be orchestrated in India with stakes so high. All tactics described by chankya would be being employed to bring down Yogi, Modi, etc. Similar tactics were also employed to bring down Modi in GJ. There's plenty of desire of money and ego to be exploited. It's not that hard to see chinese easily spend a billion on various efforts to cause instabilities.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 03 Oct 2020 03:07

IIRC, the namami ganga project execution was very poor. Compare that to running the whole UP as a project.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 03 Oct 2020 03:38

Has Hathras trajedy hit the WP, NYT, Guardia op-ed pages by the usual suspects ADhothi, Burka/Rana Bibi etc; on the state of "fascist" India where Dalits and Muslims are brutalized by evil Brahmins under the tutelage of ModiJi and "North Koran" news channels? Such bloody scum bags who profits from India's pains. Incidentally, on Hathras even TimesNow seems to have turned against YogiJi. Case of Rahul Shivshankar & Co trying to make amends with Lutyen elites for the brick bats they received for their coverage of SSR death?

Primus · Post by **Primus** » 03 Oct 2020 04:12

Modi and Yogi cannot let their guard down until the BIF are totally eliminated or made irrelevant - a task that will take two more terms in power at a minimum. Forces that were put in place over 70 yrs will take a generation to weed out. An average babu spends at least 30-40 yrs in the system these days. It is not easy to break a lifetime's habit of corruption and greed.

Shaheen Bagh was a far bigger challenge to the regime, especially since it was being held in the Capital, under the blessings of a key BIF player. Highly visible locally, nationally and internationally, it was designed to light a thousand fires. That storm too was weathered, and the pandemic helped of course.

This too shall pass......

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Oct 2020 05:06

darshan wrote:Going through the probability tree, I still don't see any compelling reason to believe that many things can't be orchestrated in India with stakes so high. All tactics described by chankya would be being employed to bring down Yogi, Modi, etc. Similar tactics were also employed to bring down Modi in GJ. There's plenty of desire of money and ego to be exploited. It's not that hard to see chinese easily spend a billion on various efforts to cause instabilities.

Not just in GJ but every state where BJP has governed, conspiracies have been hatched and outrage has been manufactured. In Yeddi's first term as CM in KA, the Congi used rent-a-goons from some so called RW "Yindoo outfit" to bash up girls in clubs, and the media was already present with cameras before the attack began ! Later the congress used powerful Swamis & Gurus to drive a wedge between various castes, and its a work in progress , congress does not rest until it weakens its enemies before pouncing for the final kill.

Uma Bharati - She is one of those "have beens" who try to re-live their popularity through Twitter. Su Swamy, Yashwant Sinha and now Uma Bharati try to gain followers on Twitter by turning against their own. Ofcourse, Twitter probably represents <1% of Indian population, so their electoral chances as independents are next to none. She was a terrible administrator and someone with a lengthy history of washing dirty linen in public.

Rahul kanwal - I'll admit my faith in BRF is a little shaken if the esteemed ladies and gentlemen on this fine forum believe Rahul Kanwal was ever fair or honest ! Rahul Kanwal is cut from the same cloth as his buddy Rajdeep Sardesai, Burkha Dutt, Ravish Kumar and other Lutyens media dalaals, he reeks of hypocrisy and has been an anti-national two-faced, lying presstitute as long as i can remember !

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 03 Oct 2020 07:55

Until the italian dogs are castrated and thrown into jail, dogs like George Soros will fund filth like Aroon Poorie and will keep conspiring these incidents

neerajb · Post by **neerajb** » 03 Oct 2020 10:12