POTUS tested Positive for COVID19 - Implications for the World

[saip]

What we know:
1. Today at 1 am POTUS Tweeted that he tested positive for COVID19
2. Mark Meadows in the moring breifing said POTUS is exhibiting 'mild' symtoms
3. POTUS is running fever
4 POTUS was given REGENERON, an unproven drug cocktail at the 'highest' dose
5. Right now POTUS is getting ready to be flown Walter Reed Hospital

[suryag]

If his condition worsens we can expect new moves from PRC/PLA

[Mort Walker]

If his condition worsens we can expect new moves from PRC/PLA

Correct. If Trump condition worsens, then China will attack India within 2 weeks.

[saip]

He arrived at Walter Reed hospital by Marine 1. He got down from the Heli on his own (a good sign). All around him, as far as I can tell, people are wearing Massks. Fast learners. Even the POTUS is wearing a mask!

[Ambar]

If his condition worsens we can expect new moves from PRC/PLA

Correct. If Trump condition worsens, then China will attack India within 2 weeks.

China and Pakistan both and our internal enemies will open a 3rd front from within. The good thing is I read Trump and others get tested daily, so they have caught it early, and these guys get the best care in the world so hopefully he'll fully recover in no time. Ofcourse, what this means for the election with just a month to go I am not sure. Many Trump supporters and doubters of the virus will be uneasy to go to the booths, so that may have an effect. I'm afraid seeing the current situation in US i don't remember the country looking as weak and vulnerable ever, not even in the dark days after 9/11. It feels like the whole country is sitting on a dry powder keg and smoking a cigarette !

[saip]

I do not believe POTUS is tested daily. He was tested because Hope Hicks, who was not feeling well on Thursday was tested and came out Positive. So both POTUS and FLOTUS who spent in close proximity with Hicks were tested. Now that they are positive, it could mean they were carrying the virus for several day prior to today. Now several journalists at WH also tested positive. This might change the mask culture at the White House.

[Ambar]

Looks like Pence is tested daily but not Trump, that's odd.

https://sfbayca.com/2020/10/02/u-s-pres ... -negative/

[Punjabi]

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[Cyrano]

This was a disaster waiting to happen. Given the mask-less promiscuity Trump and his clique showed, it could have happened sooner. The workings of the white house have been in such a disarray since Trump era began that the weakened foundations will be tragically exposed if Trump doesn't recover and get back within a week. Many of his aides and senior officials might be infected too. A dangerous time for America and RoW.

[saip]

Now THREE Senators, all Republicans, tested positive. Wonder if they are allowed to vote remotely. If they can not the confirmation hearings of SCOTUS Justice may have to be postponed.

[chetak]

Trump has reportedly been given Remdesivir therapy

he may yet bounce back to rally publicly again.

or if constrained not to travel, he may just as well do it remotely via video

Trump has been taken to the Walter Reed Military Medical Center as a precautionary measure where will continue working from the executive suite at Walter Reed in the next days.

this guy will simply not stay down.

[Suraj]

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[Cyrano]

The next Presidential candidates debate is less then 2 weeks away, unclear if Trump will recover by then and will be deemed safe to come to the debate.

From CNN:

By early Saturday, former White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and the President's campaign manager Bill Stepien had both tested positive, which followed the positive diagnoses of two US senators who had attended Trump's Supreme Court nomination announcement last weekend, and Trump senior adviser Hope Hicks on Thursday. A third Republican US senator, who did not attend the nomination event, announced a positive diagnosis later Saturday morning. Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who had helped the President with debate preparations, also announced he had tested positive on Saturday.

Harris/Pence debate is on Wednesday. If Trump is not seriously impaired to function and Pence is not given keys to the black briefcase, this debate will be maintained. Expect serious fireworks, though Harris is likely to steamroll Pence.

If anyone close to Biden tests positive - which can't be ruled out, the entire election process will be in a serious disarray. Some unprecedented historic events are going to unfold in the coming days.

If China is expecting to act smart in this chaos, that will actually be a trigger for all imp people in US and its allies to align ranks and riposte with a vengeance that will send Xitler into oblivion. Nothing like an external threat to unite a divided nation.

[darshan]

If China is expecting to act smart in this chaos, that will actually be a trigger for all imp people in US and its allies to align ranks and riposte with a vengeance that will send Xitler into oblivion. Nothing like an external threat to unite a divided nation.

It will be best if chin people wait couple of years, few toys are getting ready for them. I can go into retirement with happiness.

[vijayk]

Here doctors are saying he is not on oxygen and doing better. Others are reporting doctors are lying and he is on oxygen.But here is direct report from Walter Reed

[saip]

But he is the White House doctor. Trump was given supplemental oxygen on Friday

[Roop]

Others are reporting doctors are lying and he is on oxygen.

It is unthinkable (at least to me) that any self-respecting doctor worth his/her professional oath would come out and lie to the public about the health of the President. What they may do (and what these doctors clearly did at this press conference) is to report the current status of the Pres and refrain from commenting on the past (like "did he ever get oxygen at any time?" type questions).

The public is owed the truth about the President's current medical condition and prognosis/ treatment-regime based on currently-known facts. The public is also entitled to know the doctors' honest assessment of the patient's risk / chances based on these facts. The doctors are not obliged to indulge every fanciful / speculative theory about what may happen next week based on some hypothetical turn of events. If things turn bad for the patient next week, the doctors will deal with it at that time. Based on this press conference and the doctor's responses, it seems clear to me that Trump did get supplemental oxygen yesterday (Friday), but not today or on Thursday.

In news footage of the event, we saw Trump walking to the helicopter that flew him to Walter Reed Hospital, he was not in a wheelchair / stretcher. His gait appeared normal and healthy. In any case, I certainly hope this situation has a good resolution. The consequences of a negative outcome are too bad to contemplate.

[suryag]

He just released a video, little breathless at points and probably not having the highest energies but looked reasonably okie. He himself said the next few days are critical.

[Pratyush]

I find it absolutely amazing that the doctors are being accused of lying. While uncorroborated stuff is being published questioning the doctors.

[Cyrano]

I'd think its OK for GOTUS to issue a statement keeping in mind the enormous national and global security implications of POTUS health. Those concerns could sometimes override the "public's right to know the truth" entirely and immediately.

What's fanning the speculations is inconsistencies in the statements by doctors and "White House sources". Keeping that under control is difficult in an autocratic setup when the leader is (even partially) incapacitated and each person in Trump's family & coterie has loosely defined and overlapping spheres of influence.

[vijayk]

He just released a video, little breathless at points and probably not having the highest energies but looked reasonably okie. He himself said the next few days are critical.

[saip]

Mark Meadows said POTUS Oxygen level dropped rapidly on Friday. That may be the reason for the concern and him being shifted to Walter Reed.

[darshan]

US Hindu Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard Wins Hearts With Her "Class Act" As Trump Gets Hate After Covid Diagnosis
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/us-hindu- ... -diagnosis
...
In the backdrop of all the hate Trump received after his Covid diagnosis, Twitter users hailed Tulsi's warm wishes to the US President despite her ideological differences with him and said that it was a "class act" from the Hawaiian Congresswoman.
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[saip]

I find it absolutely amazing that the doctors are being accused of lying. While uncorroborated stuff is being published questioning the doctors.

No, they do NOT lie but they DO obfuscate. Dr Conley said POTUS oxygen levels did 'not reach low 80s''. What do you make of it? He also said he did not mention low oxygen levels previously because he wanted to "relflect the upbeat attitude of the team". Again, strictly it is NOT a lie but obfuscation. Also, there may be some constrains on him because of HIPAA.

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 20257?s=24


T says he is going to do a surprise visit to his supporters

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 617839001/
'Interesting journey:' Donald Trump drives by supporters outside Walter Reed, claims progress in another video

Claiming progress in his personal fight against COVID-19, President Donald Trump ventured outside for a little bit on Sunday to greet supporters who gathered at the hospital before then returning to the facility.

Trump, wearing a suit and a mask, waved to supporters from the back seat of an SUV as it passed by the demonstration at the Walter Reed medical center.

"It's been a very interesting journey, I learned a lot about COVID," Trump said in a video recorded at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. "I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school. This isn't the let's-read-the-book school, and I get it, and I understand it."

Trump's video came hours after Navy Commander and White House physician Sean Conley said the president could be discharged as early as Monday. Conley said Trump received supplemental oxygen on Friday after the president had a "high fever" and his oxygen levels dipped below 94%. He said Trump experienced another drop in oxygen on Saturday, but did not discuss treatment.

[nachiket]

Locking topic. Don't see a necessity for this thread when we already have the Understanding US thread. We don't need yet another thread on BRF where people indulge in a US politics debate.