Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Jan 2021 19:42

Why China Is Winning Against India

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/01/in ... -standoff/

kit · Post by **kit** » 16 Jan 2021 23:28

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintellig ... d-62109581

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Jan 2021 00:07

Haresh wrote:Why China Is Winning Against India

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/01/in ... -standoff/

Very poor arguments by whoever this Sushant Singh is, he is stuck in the "we are poor so we can't fight Yindoo growth rate 80's mindset". Looks like he is also in line get a teaching position at Harvard soon

I would argue the contrary: Chinese aggressing has helped India in many ways:

For the forces:
- CDC structure has acquired more meaning and purpose and has got very strong support from the three forces, executive govt and the people
- A heightened sense of urgency to reorganise the forces into theatre commands and actually rollout some of that reorg
- Mountain strike corps & mountain divisions have been strengthened
- Galwan clash and India's unforgettable drubbing of deceitful Chinese has boosted troop morale and made the mindset of the enemy clear for all
- Massive boost to border infrastructure update, with kick in the ass to BRO which has produced superb results.
- Serious thought and update of military H/W & Equipment purchase plans
- Major boost to Atmanirbhar Bharat, indigenisation of various supplies to the forces, from pins to planes.
and a lot more...

For the Govt:
- Legitimised its forces reorg plans, and built lot of confidence between GOI and the military
- Helped dispel the wishful thinking that China is less of a threat than Pak
- Made Pak realise that if India can so effectively counter China, the Pakis have no chance in a conflict
- Made it easier to push Atmanirbhar Bharat from the defence purchases side
- Reinforced popular support and the oppositions exposed themselves with their immature or biased reactions and lost people's goodwill
- Has made everybody realise hw terrible our trade deficits are and the importance of export oriented business outlook
- A shot in the arm to the strategic cooperation with the US, the Quad, our extended neighbourhood and the results have started to come
- Made the world realise China for what it is and had put a certain degree of mistrust and wariness into the minds of of G20 countries & China's neighbours...
- Helped in its argument that global supply chains need to be derisked to attract more FDI etc..

I can go on and on. Modi & Co have not let a good crisis to go waste !

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 17 Jan 2021 00:14

There may be about 10-15K crores worth of cheeni FDI waiting in the wings pending GoI approval and per some unverified SM chatter, huawei is desperately pleading its case for re entry into the Indian telecom market

China Has Sent FDI Proposals Worth Rs. 12,000 Cr Since April: Sources

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Jan 2021 00:19

kit wrote:https://www.spglobal.com/marketintellig ... d-62109581

If most G20 economies are in recession, who is buying so much? In which categories? Surely all of this can't just come from masks, PPE kits, medical equipment etc ?

Would be interesting to see if this correlates with world shipping activity data for 2020. From what I could look up,

"Global maritime trade will plunge by 4.1% in 2020 due to the unprecedented disruption caused by COVID-19, UNCTAD estimates in its Review of Maritime Transport 2020, released on 12 November. "

Somehow this Chinese export data seems like a bubble.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Jan 2021 00:22

China's Huawei backtracks after filing for patent to identify Uyghur faces

Need to highlight this to woke elements in US, EU & UK govts and our friends in ME.

Tuan · Post by **Tuan** » 17 Jan 2021 08:25

Is China creating a debt trap to rule the world?

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m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 17 Jan 2021 08:28

^ Could we not post articles from CGTN, owned by China Central Television, a state-owned broadcaster?

Tuan · Post by **Tuan** » 17 Jan 2021 08:58

m_saini wrote:^ Could we not post articles from CGTN, owned by China Central Television, a state-owned broadcaster?

You seem to have overlooked the obvious. If you ignore the other side of the story, you will encounter significantly less contact with contradicting viewpoints, causing you to become intellectually biased or isolated.

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 17 Jan 2021 09:17

Tuan wrote:
You seem to have overlooked the obvious. If you ignore the other side of the story, you will encounter significantly less contact with contradicting viewpoints, causing you to become intellectually biased or isolated.

Funny how the chinis themselves don't share that viewpoint and kinda ironic that we have to listen to the chini propaganda in the name of "contradicting viewpoints" and "intellectual honesty".

What's next? should we start collecting paki ISPR tweets in fear of not being "intellectually isolated"?

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 17 Jan 2021 09:19

China Commission
@CECCgov
Executive Summary of the @CECCgov's 2020 Annual Report on human rights conditions and rule of law developments in China is available for download.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CECCgov/stat ... 6850634755

https://t.co/2Cso7NS2np?amp=1

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 17 Jan 2021 09:23

No progress in talks between envoys of Dalai Lama & China: Report The annual report by the US Congressional-Executive Commission on China (CECC) says that religious freedom continues to deteriorate in Tibet

https://www.sentinelassam.com/topheadli ... ort-521061
https://www.sentinelassam.com/topheadli ... ort-521061

DHARAMSALA, Jan 16: There was no progress of formal negotiations between the Dalai Lama's envoys and China and the religious freedom continues to deteriorate in Tibet, said the 2020 annual report by the US Congressional-Executive Commission on China (CECC). The report, released this week and based on the events between July 1, 2019 and July 1, 2020, details its recommendations to Congress and the US President based on the human rights conditions and rule of law developments in China. The CECC, which favoured enactment of the 'Tibetan Policy and Support Act of 2020' that was passed at the end of December of 2020, highlighted their concerns of the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) increasingly repressive tactics, such as intimidation of critics, censorship and interference in foreign governments and citizens.

https://www.sentinelassam.com/topheadli ... ort-521061
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darshan · Post by **darshan** » 17 Jan 2021 12:22

Scientists. Not lawyers to know what they need to comply with or not. Science has no borders. More scientists are on their way in. Chen needs to just hold on till then.

Chinese-American MIT Professor Who Received Millions in U.S Research Grants Arrested for Concealing Financial Ties to China
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/chinese-a ... s-to-china
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Gang Chen, who was born in China and is a naturalized U.S. citizen, currently serves as a professor and researcher at MIT. He is the Director of the MIT Pappalardo Micro/Nano Engineering Laboratory and Director of the Solid-State Solar Thermal Energy Conversion Center (S3TEC).

Gang Chen has been charged with holding various appointments with China designed to promote the China’s technological and scientific development by providing advice and expertise – sometimes directly to Chinese government officials – and often in exchange for financial compensation.

The U.S Department of Energy has given Gang Chen $19 million for research since 2013.

When Gang Chen applied for and received a grant from U.S Department of Energy to fund his research he failed to disclose that from at least 2017 to 2019 he served in several advisory roles for the China and Chinese entities as required by the DOE, prosecutors said.
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since 2013, gang chen allegedly received approximately $29 million of foreign funding, including $19 million from the prc’s southern university of science and technology (sustech).

gang chen also allegedly failed to disclose to the irs in his 2018 tax return that he maintained a bank account in the prc with more than $10,000 in 2018.

in july 2019, gang chen was quoted in nature magazine as being critical of the u.s. government’s increased scrutiny of researchers with ties to china.

gang chen has been charged with wire fraud, failing to file a foreign bank account report (fbar) and making a false statement in a tax return.
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darshan · Post by **darshan** » 18 Jan 2021 03:38

US State Department Releases New Info On Chinese Origins Of COVID-19; Calls For Full Account Of Events
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/us-state- ... -of-events
In a pushback against China, United States (US) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has shared new information concerning the activities in China’s government laboratories in 2019 as the US looks to assist the World Health Organisation (WHO)'s team which is in China to investigate the origin of COVID-19.

Secretary Pompeo led Department of State has asserted, "The US Government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses."

Department of State has also pressed, "Starting in at least 2016, WIV researchers studied RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). Since the outbreak, the WIV has not been transparent nor consistent about its work with RaTG13 or other similar viruses, including possible “gain of function” experiments to enhance transmissibility or lethality."

The Department has also emphasised, "Despite the WIV presenting itself as a civilian institution, the WIV has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military. The WIV has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017."
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Kati · Post by **Kati** » 18 Jan 2021 05:23

From SCMP

Vietnam's omission from Chinese foreign minister's Southeast Asia tour tells a story, observers say
Shi Jiangtao
Sat, January 16, 2021, 3:30 AM·5 min read

China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi wrapped up his latest trip to Southeast Asia on Saturday, during which he sought to stabilise relations in the region ahead of the inauguration of Joe Biden as US president. But of the 10 member states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean), Wang has visited in recent months, one was conspicuously missing: Vietnam.

It is hardly a coincidence, according to diplomatic observers, as China has moved Asean up in its foreign policy priorities in recent months in the midst of its spiralling geopolitical rivalry with the US, Europe and America's allies and partners in Asia-Pacific.

China and Vietnam have clashed in the South China Sea. Photo: Reuters alt=China and Vietnam have clashed in the South China Sea. Photo: Reuters

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Observers say Wang skipping Vietnam lays bare the growing antagonism and tensions between the old Communist allies over their South China Sea dispute, which have been compounded by the US factor and uncertainties over internal power politics in Hanoi.

While Asean overtook the European Union as China's top trading partner last year, Vietnam replaced Germany as China's sixth-largest trading partner, thanks to the surging two-way trade between Beijing and Hanoi despite strained political ties and the coronavirus pandemic.

However, according to Zhang Mingliang, a Southeast Asian affairs expert at Jinan University in Guangzhou, Vietnam was the first Asean nation to move to reject Chinese telecoms giant Huawei Technologies and close its China border in the wake of the pandemic.

Also, unlike many Asean countries that have shown enthusiasm for Chinese-made Covid-19 vaccines, which have been a main feature of Wang's regional diplomacy, Vietnam has adopted a more diversified strategy in its negotiations of buying products from Britain, the US, Russia and China.

Apart from Vietnam's grievances over China's perceived bullying in the maritime dispute and the soaring anti-Chinese sentiments, the biggest variable in bilateral ties is the upcoming leadership transition in one of the world's most secretive political systems.

The 13th national congress of Vietnam's ruling Communist Party to be held later this month will decide the country's new leadership and how it will steer through the fast changing regional geopolitics.

"The uncertainty of five-yearly leadership transition has thrown the already murky political situation in Vietnam into further doubt, posing unprecedented challenges to other countries in the region including China," Zhang said.

While China needed to manage ties with Vietnam, it had to tread carefully to avoid getting caught in Vietnam's domestic political struggle, as various factions might want to play the China card in their intensified jostling behind the scenes, he said.

Despite close economic and trade ties, there have been few top-level exchanges between China and Vietnam in recent months, especially person-to-person meetings between government and party leaders, which have traditionally played a pivotal role in steadying ties.

"I am not optimistic about bilateral ties because they will be shrouded in greater uncertainty amid policy debates over how Vietnam would position itself in the US-China rivalry. Vietnam's relations with China would largely be decided by its stance on the new US administration," Zhang said.

Xu Liping, a Southeast Asia specialist at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, also attributed the lack of high-level meetings to Vietnam's domestic uncertainties.

"There are indeed some gaps between our expectations for bilateral ties and the reality. But I still think both sides are likely to resume some sort of communications at top level after the leadership transition," he said.

As the only Southeast Asian nation to take on China both over the South China Sea and management of the Mekong River, Vietnam has become a focal point in the US-China wrangling.

Washington has tried hard in recent months to pull China's communist neighbour closer to its orbit, with senior officials, including US national security adviser Robert O'Brien and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, making separate trips to Hanoi.

According to Xu, while it is understandable for Vietnam to count on the US and other regional powers, such as India and Japan, to counterbalance China in the South China Sea, it should be careful to manage its expectations of external interference.

"Vietnam has become increasingly confident in recent years in forging closer ties with major powers around the world and its geopolitical significance has been widely acknowledged. But it may need to refrain from asking for too much from China in the maritime dispute because countries outside the region may not be able to contain China after all," he said.

Zhang said Beijing should also be wary of the incoming Biden administration, which looked set to boost economic and security ties with Hanoi in its multilateral approach to curbing China.

"The risk of confrontation is rising," he said. "Wang Yi has reiterated the importance of regional stability throughout his Southeast Asian tours, which shows Beijing clearly understands it faces growing challenges to prevent relations with its neighbours from further deteriorating."

This article originally appeared in the South China Morning Post (SCMP), the most authoritative voice reporting on China and Asia for more than a century. For more SCMP stories, please explore the SCMP app or visit the SCMP's Facebook and Twitter pages. Copyright © 2021 South China Morning Post Publishers Ltd. All rights reserved.

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Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 18 Jan 2021 21:58

Cyrano wrote:
Haresh wrote:Why China Is Winning Against India

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/01/in ... -standoff/
Very poor arguments by whoever this Sushant Singh is, he is stuck in the "we are poor so we can't fight Yindoo growth rate 80's mindset". Looks like he is also in line get a teaching position at Harvard soon

I would argue the contrary: Chinese aggressing has helped India in many ways: !

I got the impression that he was unduly defeatist as well. I am sure he will preach the same nonsense in Harvard, to a very accepting audience.

Shameek · Post by **Shameek** » 20 Jan 2021 03:09

U.S. Says China’s Repression of Uighurs Is ‘Genocide’

Link

WASHINGTON — The State Department declared on Tuesday that the Chinese government is committing genocide and crimes against humanity through its wide-scale repression of Uighurs and other mostly Muslim ethnic minorities in its northwestern region of Xinjiang, including in its use of internment camps and forced sterilization.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 21 Jan 2021 19:50

Indians flattering themselves while chinese are cashing out on the chinese virus.

How many are actually going to hold chinese accountable? I suspect none. Including India.

Bolstering India's Credentials As World's Vaccine Hub, 92 Countries Approach Modi Govt For Made-In-India Covid Vaccines
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/bolsterin ... d-vaccines

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 21 Jan 2021 21:06

The vaccine donations are hilarious. We'll never change

kit · Post by **kit** » 24 Jan 2021 02:18

CHIMERICA : probably needs a new thread

https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au ... and-china/

https://insightful.co.in/2020/04/19/wor ... e-unaware/

kit · Post by **kit** » 24 Jan 2021 02:19

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... cs-support

nam · Post by **nam** » 24 Jan 2021 17:12

As expected Chinis are flying aggressively on the Taiwan strait. So even if Biden wants to fix the China relation, CCP will themselves make sure Biden doesn't have room to manoeuvre.

Bart S · Post by **Bart S** » 25 Jan 2021 00:37

Cyrano wrote:
Haresh wrote:Why China Is Winning Against India

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/01/in ... -standoff/
Very poor arguments by whoever this Sushant Singh is, he is stuck in the "we are poor so we can't fight Yindoo growth rate 80's mindset". Looks like he is also in line get a teaching position at Harvard soon

He is another old ecosystem guy who really hates Modi.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 25 Jan 2021 08:37

Chinese nationals arrested near Delhi for alleged money laundering
https://www.wionews.com/india-news/chin ... ing-359074
Anti-Terrorist Squad of Uttar Pradesh Police on Sunday said that two Chinese nationals had been arrested from Noida for their alleged role in money laundering. Both of them, including a woman allegedly forged documents to bank accounts. The ATS said that the money was used criminal activities.

Names of the accused are Pochnli Tengli and Xu Xunfu.
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g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 25 Jan 2021 12:47

https://www.india.com/news/india/india- ... d-4355038/
India-China Standoff: 4 Indian Soldiers, 20 Chinese Injured in Face-off at LAC in Sikkim
By India.com News Desk, Edited by Sharmita Kar, January 25, 2021
According to reports, the Indian Army foiled the attempt by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers to change the status quo at Naku La area of Sikkim.
New Delhi: At least four Indians and 20 Chinese soldiers have been injured in yet another scuffle reported between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Sikkim. The incident happened two to three days back on the foreground of the 9th round of Commander-level talks. Also Read - Ladakh Standoff: India-China Hold 9th Round of Talks of Military Talks | What to Expect
According to reports, the Indian Army foiled the attempt by China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers to change the status quo at Naku La area of Sikkim. However, the situation appears to be tense but stable at borders right now, officials have said.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 444001.cms
India, China troops clash at Naku L ..
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Gautam
Is it deja vu all over again? I thought I was reading old news and had to check the date. But it is Sikkim this time. May be Eleven wants to see how the new POTUS responds. Or is it because of the free vaccine that India is giving to the neighborhood?

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 25 Jan 2021 16:38

Bart S wrote:
Cyrano wrote: He is another old ecosystem guy who really hates Modi.

I am quite curious about these sorts of "Journalists" who convey a pessimistic PoV and seem to have a anti-Indian agenda.

Many years ago I met one, he was from a very privileged background. Father was if I remember in The Foreign Service in Delhi and they were v close to the CONgress.
He did take the attitude that he was a member of an elite and the world and it's people owed him something.

He was quite literally a prostitute just looking to enrich himself, arrogant.
Why are these types even listened to ?
This is him same mannerisms, MacAulay would have loved him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-RkzT9kaA

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 26 Jan 2021 00:22

Almost 70 representatives from G7 nations pen letter to their leaders, urge them to take ‘allied action’ against China: Details
https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/67-legi ... na-letter/
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The legislators in their statement said, “Because the actions of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) are affecting global politics and our societies like never before, the G7 must stand up for the democratic principles we share and believe in. Representing the interests of our electorates, we urgently call our leaders to unite around a plan of action that addresses internal and external PRC behavior which we consider contradictory to international standards.”
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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Jan 2021 01:50

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.india.com/news/india/india- ... d-4355038/
India-China Standoff: 4 Indian Soldiers, 20 Chinese Injured in Face-off at LAC in Sikkim
By India.com News Desk, Edited by Sharmita Kar, January 25, 2021
According to reports, the Indian Army foiled the attempt by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers to change the status quo at Naku La area of Sikkim.
New Delhi: At least four Indians and 20 Chinese soldiers have been injured in yet another scuffle reported between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Sikkim. The incident happened two to three days back on the foreground of the 9th round of Commander-level talks. Also Read - Ladakh Standoff: India-China Hold 9th Round of Talks of Military Talks | What to Expect
According to reports, the Indian Army foiled the attempt by China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers to change the status quo at Naku La area of Sikkim. However, the situation appears to be tense but stable at borders right now, officials have said.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 444001.cms
India, China troops clash at Naku L ..
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Gautam
Is it deja vu all over again? I thought I was reading old news and had to check the date. But it is Sikkim this time. May be Eleven wants to see how the new POTUS responds. Or is it because of the free vaccine that India is giving to the neighborhood?

Its close to Republic Day awards for the Army. Could be to reduce the sheen of the gallantry awards at Galwan.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 26 Jan 2021 02:17

You mean this irks the Han?
https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/col-bik ... ublic-day/
Col Bikkumalla Santosh Babu who laid down his life in the Galwan valley clashes to be decorated with Maha Vir Chakra
The government's decision came after Indian Army top brass recommended that soldiers who took on Chinese troops in the Galwan valley clash should be awarded the war-time chakra series awards at this Republic Day.
OpIndia Staff, 25 January, 2021
The government of India has decided to honour Col Bikkumalla Santosh Babu of the 16th Bihar Batallion, who had laid down his life in the clash between Indian and Chinese forces in Galwan Valley on June 16, with the Maha Vir Chakra this Republic Day. “Col Babu is likely to be awarded the Maha Vir Chakra posthumously on this Republic Day,” government sources told ANI.
According to reports, the government’s decision came after the Indian Army top brass recommended that soldiers who took on Chinese troops in the Galwan valley clash should be awarded the war-time chakra series awards at this Republic Day.
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Gautam
Since India is now in the business of supplying free medicines to the neighborhood, how about some Burnol for Eleven?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Jan 2021 03:10

Who knows what irks the pseudo Hans!

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 26 Jan 2021 21:33

China threatens war as Joe Biden continues the outreach to Taiwan

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The air exercises also sent a warning to the Biden administration. It did not take long for the Biden team to push back. The State Department on Saturday issued a statement calling on China to “cease its military, diplomatic, and economic pressure against Taiwan and instead engage in meaningful dialogue with Taiwan’s democratically elected representatives.” It pointedly declared America’s “commitment to Taiwan is rock solid.”

Perhaps most significantly, the statement mentioned the robust but often ignored Reagan-era “Six Assurances.” As John Tkacik, a retired foreign service officer who served in Beijing and Taipei, told me, “The Biden commitment to the ‘Six Assurances’ is diplomatese for ‘the U.S. does not accept China’s claims to sovereignty over Taiwan.’”

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Biden’s Taiwan policy, however, is shaping up to be resolute. In a move that surprised observers, his transition team invited Taiwan’s top representative in Washington, Bikhim Hsiao, to the inauguration. Her presence ended four decades of America’s shunning of Taiwan at the ceremony. The move continued the Trump administration’s outreach to Taipei. With Washington’s new engagement of Taiwan, it appears China no longer wields a veto over American policy toward the island.

kit · Post by **kit** » 26 Jan 2021 23:11

NRao wrote:China threatens war as Joe Biden continues the outreach to Taiwan

While thats good , of even more importance is the recognition of Tibet as an independent nation. Lets see how the biden admin goes about that. Once that is clear India's role will become more evident in the strategic calculus. !

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 28 Jan 2021 10:19

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 28 Jan 2021 10:23

Biden’s Opening Salvo on Beijing

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Initiating his China policy with the most aggressive concatenation of moves against a foreign power that any peacetime U.S. administration has ever launched so early on, President Biden has thrown down a gauntlet that Beijing is unlikely to ignore. Besides issuing a formal invitation to Taiwan’s top Washington representative to attend the inauguration (the first such invitation since the U.S. established formal relations with Beijing in 1979), the incoming team has pledged to continue arms sales to Taiwan and indicated that it wants to delay high-level U.S.-China talks until it consults with close allies—a stand that China will interpret as a rebuff. As if this weren’t enough, Secretary of State-designate Antony Blinken announced that he concurs with his predecessor Mike Pompeo’s finding that China is engaged in a genocide against its mostly Muslim Uighur minority in Xinjiang province. Taken with the previously planned dispatch of a naval strike group to the South China Sea, it all amounts to a stern message to Beijing.

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durairaaj · Post by **durairaaj** » 28 Jan 2021 20:13

I think, time has come to change the external affairs minister S. JaiShankar. His Sinophilic ways are being discredited continuously by PRC. His recent list of items about misdeeds are even puke worthy, appears like begging.
His refusal to form strong alliance with Taiwan, Japan, Australia and bite the bullet with Russia are going to make us appear even weaker. It's time to make good alliance with Taiwanese companies in solar, electronic, etc... Otherwise we will continue to be dependent on import from China.

There is no point in dealing the PRC with velvet gloves. We need people with strong will power to man the external affairs ministry to make alliances. The current minister is not showing confidence in dealing with China, as much as he showed against Pakistan. We need someone with seasoned experience in politics to show the confidence and power.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 28 Jan 2021 21:24

durairaaj wrote:I think, time has come to change the external affairs minister S. JaiShankar. His Sinophilic ways are being discredited continuously by PRC.

Huh, really are we talking about the same person? https://www.dawn.com/news/1604134/india ... r-standoff He is most certainly not Sinophilic, if at all anything he is perceived as being Sinophobic. He is a seasoned diplomat who knows how to apply increasing levels of pressure as required using all tools at his disposal.
Regarding using Taiwan for geopolitical purposes - please keep in mind that Taiwan itself wants to stay under the radar in a state of ambiguous independence because it has the most to lose if China is provoked. We can certainly cement business relations with Taiwan but guess what PRC-Taiwan business connections are way deeper than ours will ever be.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 28 Jan 2021 22:12

IMPORTANT

Atlantic Council document lays out detailed policy proposal for future US administrations to adopt vis-a-vis China.

Read in full here:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content ... per_series

Shorter version here:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ous-463120

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 28 Jan 2021 22:26

^^^^^

This is from fall 2020 (under Trump), but, is continuing under Biden:

Former Google CEO and others call for U.S.-China tech "bifurcation"

The original 34 page pdf "memo"

Asymmetric Competition: A Strategy for China & Technology

(China should feel very lucky that Michèle Flournoy, who in her testimony (House Armed Services Committee) said:

The United States must think creatively about how we might stop a rival great power from starting down the road to war. As an illustrative example, what capabilities would U.S. forces need to credibly threaten to sink 300 military vessels, submarines, and merchant ships within 72 hours?

was not selected as SecDef)

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 28 Jan 2021 22:49

I think this has gone beyond individuals. The "Longer Telegram" is basically a template for Institutional thinking with respect to China-- the very name recapitulates the "Long Telegram" from George Kennan to Harry Truman's administration in 1946, in which the contours of US strategy towards the Soviet Union were laid out (and held firm across multiple generations of policymakers until 1990).

It's a formalization of the new cold war.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 28 Jan 2021 22:59

Don't miss this part:

Nonetheless, the common characteristic for all of these areas of strategic competition must be confidence that the United States can and will prevail, with US underlying strengths and values still providing the stronger hand to play in what remains an open, competitive, international environment. These areas of strategic competition against China should include the following:

sustaining current US force levels in the Indo-Pacific region (because to do otherwise would cause China to conclude that the United States has begun to retreat from its alliance commitments), while also modernizing military doctrine, platforms, and capabilities to ensure robust regionwide deterrence
stabilizing relations with Russia and encouraging the same between Russia and Japan
concluding a fully operationalized Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (Quad) with India, Japan, and Australia by inducing India to abandon its final political and strategic reservations against such an arrangement
facilitating the normalization of Japan-South Korea relations to prevent Korea from continuing to drift strategically in China’s direction
prioritizing trade, investment, development, diplomatic, and security relations between the United States and each of the Southeast Asian states, particularly with US allies Thailand and the Philippines, to prevent further strategic drift by Southeast Asia toward China
protecting the global reserve currency status of the US dollar
protecting critical new technologies, both US and allied, from Chinese acquisition
integrating, to the greatest extent possible, the US, Canadian, and Mexican economies into a seamless market of five-hundred million in order to underpin long-term economic strength relative to China
renegotiating the transpacific partnership agreement and then acceding to it
negotiating a transatlantic trade and investment partnership with the European Union and acceding to it, along with other potential agreements on technology or other issues
enforcing China’s pledges on trade and investment liberalization, state subsidies, dumping, and intellectual-property protection, in partnership with friends and allies, through a reformed multilateral trade dispute-resolution mechanism
reforming and reviving the World Trade Organization (WTO), its dispute-resolution machinery, and the integrity of international trade law rather than allowing further incremental drift toward global protectionism
investing at scale, alongside US allies, in the World Bank and the regional development banks, in order to provide emerging economies with an effective means of funding the development of their national infrastructure, thus encouraging use of the World Bank (including its transparent governance standards) as a credible alternative to the BRI
revitalizing the UN and other multilateral and international institutions as the cornerstones of global political governance
rebuilding the State Department including its operational budgets and staffing levels to be able to diplomatically compete with China globally
increasing US overseas development aid through the US Agency for International Development (USAID) and established United Nations (UN) humanitarian agencies in order to, together with US allies, sustain donor dominance over China through coordinated global aid delivery
strengthening, consistent with existing international treaties, multilateral human rights institutional arrangements to maintain multilateral pressure on both China’s domestic human rights practices as well as the Communist Party’s international political legitimacy