2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 13 Aug 2021 15:36

Unless the USG makes a formal request on behalf of NYT, there no need for GoI to do anything. Studied silence is good enough.

In the meantime, keep evacuating Indian citizens without pause. In the absolute last evac flight, if all Indians and citizens of friendly countries (that don't have their own resources) are accounted for, we can consider a lottery for the remaining seats.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 13 Aug 2021 15:53

Why is the NYT thing even being discussed?

It has to be ignored.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 13 Aug 2021 17:56

NYT journalists are not Indian citizens. None of our business.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Aug 2021 18:42

Have faith in MEA. They know what they are doing At least these days. Who care about nyt( intentional punishment to NYT )

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Aug 2021 18:59

why can't white skinned racist canada evacuate their NYT pals, why does it have to be only India

Canada to send special forces to Afghanistan to close embassy in Kabul, official says

Canadian special forces will deploy to Afghanistan where staff in Canada's embassy in Kabul will be evacuated before it closes, a source familiar with the plan told The Associated Press

Canadian special forces will deploy to Afghanistan where staff in Canada's embassy in Kabul will be evacuated before it closes, a source familiar with the plan told The Associated Press.

The official, who was not authorized to talk publicly about the matter and spoke on condition of anonymity, did not say how many special forces would be sent.

Just weeks before the U.S. is scheduled to end its war in Afghanistan, the Biden administration is also rushing 3,000 fresh troops to the Kabul airport to help with a partial evacuation of the U.S. Embassy.

The moves highlight the stunning speed of a Taliban takeover of much of the country, including their capture on Thursday of Kandahar, the second-largest city and the birthplace of the Taliban movement.

Britain also said Thursday that it will send around 600 troops to Afghanistan to help U.K. nationals leave the country amid growing concerns about the security situation. And Danish lawmakers have agreed to evacuate 45 Afghan citizens who worked for Denmark's government in Afghanistan and to offer them residency in the European country for two years.

Some 40,000 Canadian troops were deployed in Afghanistan over 13 years as part of the NATO mission before pulling out in 2014.

The first planeload of Afghan refugees who supported the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan arrived in Canada earlier this month. The Canadian government last month announced a special program to urgently resettle Afghans deemed to have been "integral" to the Canadian Armed Forces' mission, including interpreters, cooks, drivers, cleaners, construction workers, security guards and embassy staff, as well as members of their families.

U.S. deploys troops to Kabul to evacuate embassy

The government says more than 800 Afghans who supported the mission have been resettled in Canada over the past decade but acknowledges that many more remain in Afghanistan.

The Taliban, who ruled the country from 1996 until U.S. forces invaded after the 9/11 attacks, have taken 12 of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals as part of a weeklong sweep that has given them effective control of about two-thirds of the country.

The seizure of Kandahar and Herat marks the biggest prizes yet for the Taliban. Canada's former military mission was based in Kandahar. More than 150 Canadian soldiers died during the Afghanistan mission.'

A spokeswoman for Canada's Global Affairs department declined to comment on specifics about the embassy.

"The security of the Canadian Embassy and the safety of our personnel in Kabul is our top priority. For security reasons we do not comment on specific operational matters of our missions abroad," spokeswoman Ciara Trudeau said in an email.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Aug 2021 21:17

^^^
Just weeks before the U.S. is scheduled to end its war in Afghanistan, the Biden administration is also rushing 3,000 fresh troops to the Kabul airport to help with a partial evacuation of the U.S. Embassy.

What about Turkish troops guarding Kabul Airport ?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Aug 2021 23:54

rsingh wrote:^^^
Just weeks before the U.S. is scheduled to end its war in Afghanistan, the Biden administration is also rushing 3,000 fresh troops to the Kabul airport to help with a partial evacuation of the U.S. Embassy.

What about Turkish troops guarding Kabul Airport ?

tun on best quality Royal Afghani hash.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Aug 2021 00:02

preparations for the coming UP elections ................

ECI: Data entry operator of one of the offices of Assistant Electoral Roll Officer had illegally shared his user id, password with an unauthorized service provider in Saharanpur’s Nakud to print some Voter IDs. Both persons were arrested. ECI database is absolutely safe & secure

UP Police Arrest Man for Hacking into EC Account, Creating Over 10,000 Fake IDs

During the initial investigation, police found that Saini worked at the behest of a person named Armaan Malik from Madhya Pradesh and created more than 10,000 fake voter IDs in over three months.

Saharanpur Senior Superintendent of Police S. Channappa told PTI that Saini was paid Rs 100-200 per ID. When his bank account was examined after his arrest, the police found Rs 60 lakh deposited in it.

The account was immediately frozen, he said.

An ECI spokesperson said in Delhi that assistant electoral roll officers (AERO) are mandated to provide citizen-centric services, including printing of voter ID cards and timely distribution, in line with the theme of “No voter to be left behind”.

“A data entry operator of one of the AERO offices had illegally shared his user ID and password with a private unauthorized service provider in Saharanpur’s Nakud town to print some voter ID cards.

“Both these persons have been arrested,” the spokesperson said.

The EC database is “absolutely safe and secure”, the spokesperson said.

Police are investigating the source of the money in the account of the accused and trying to find more details about Malik, who, Saini said, used to send him details of the day”s work.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Aug 2021 09:43

If you want to see the difference between how BJP uses power and how Cong uses power, look at the Shiv Sena.

For decades, the Sena was BJP's ally. They insulted and mocked the BJP at every chance.

Since the MVA was formed, look at how much respect Shiv Sena gives to the Congress.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Aug 2021 09:59

this is what you do when your testimonials have been publicly lopped off by the "high" command

"Farmers Protest have been hijacked by Pro Pakistani and Pro Khalistani elements" says Punjab CM Capt. Amarinder Singh

via@pGurus1

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 15 Aug 2021 09:25

Vayutuvan wrote:
venkat_kv wrote: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7837&start=3960#p2498624
Thanks for the youtube link. I will go through the video. I also subscribed to raka lokam. How is the channel?

Vayutavan Saar,
The journalist Raka Sudhakar has extremely sober anaIysis (when you compare to Arnab's jingo screaming) and he seems to have extensively worked as a journalist in Assam and North east in the past. hence some of his analysis is quite comprehensive when it comes to naming the tribes as well. this is a welcome change from the normal telugu channels that are fixated on CBN, Jagan and Modi all the time. Everything is centered around the political issue in the MSM telugu channel.

His counter questions on live chat on what Modi/BJP did after Bengal violence is a bit of eye opener ( this in another video 4-6 weeks after the election results, where one of the person asked what is Modi doing and not speaking for party karyakarthas) he pointed out that most of the people fleeing Bengal to neighboring states of Assam, Bihar have returned and the BJP as a party with Suvendu and JP Nadda have helped the persecuted people to come back with a bit of monetary help and helping file cases with the legal wing on the perpetrators.

Most of his videos will have similar content to what we discuss here in BRF, some of it has fantastic new pieces of info ( contrasting Nehru's mercy petition when he was in a Jail for a week to the one Savarkar faced in Andaman Jail, many like this - although that could also reflect on my own lack of gyan or secular education bring up).

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 15 Aug 2021 09:35

arshyam wrote:Unless the USG makes a formal request on behalf of NYT, there no need for GoI to do anything. Studied silence is good enough.

In the meantime, keep evacuating Indian citizens without pause. In the absolute last evac flight, if all Indians and citizens of friendly countries (that don't have their own resources) are accounted for, we can consider a lottery for the remaining seats.

chetak wrote:twitter

Reporter for Canadian state TV says India has duty to rescue NY Times reporters stuck in Afghanistan!

How can foreign citizens on foreign soil have right to Govt of India resources?

We are required to serve NYT because we are brown skinned?

Arshyam/ Chetak Saar,
Maybe they are pre-empting the request as most of the foreign govts have left afghanistan. Journalists/contractors of NYT could be citizens of any country and if so the massa and Kaneda will not move a muscle to save them. We did do an evacuation in the middle East during the Yemen and Syrian crisis bringing back foreign individuals of many countries and our govt was rather very silent on it as an achievement.

Or they have received silence for an answer and are trying to pressure the govt through SM.

These NYT buggers would probably come back with a justification that in crisis, humantitees stand together .. blah blah blah so India was doing what was expected of it. Surprising that they choose to ask India and not the bakis and chinis. they should have good contacts with those porkis and lizards.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 15 Aug 2021 11:04

What's our duty? Our moral obligation?

Taking back POK:

1) Its a resolution made in our Parliament - multiple times
2) It gives us a land border with Afghanistan
3) This is a great time to go for it, with the Pakis, the Chinese & the Americans focusing on Afghanistan. We will respect the ceasefire with the Pakis - take it without a shot!

kit · Post by **kit** » 15 Aug 2021 17:45

Support the Afghanistan "Government in exile" to be established in India

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 15 Aug 2021 18:33

Perspective on the Tata's folks. I had brought up the issue of the Tata's and their international allegiances a few years ago. People had reacted the same way as people react to statements about the road minister.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

https://english.mathrubhumi.com/money/m ... -1.5912463

New Delhi:Union Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal on Thursday said Tata group has worked against ‘national interests’, reports The Hindu. H...

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Aug 2021 19:38

One thinks that the appointment of Rakesh Asthana, IPS, as the Commissioner of Police, Delhi has had a salutary effect and the rogues have taken heed, unwilling to risk their life and limb.

chaadarmod dakait has backed off completely from any tail wagging tractor based antics in dilli, as have the khalistanis and the jehadis.

Also, dakitait's UP plan has been stymied by Yogi ji who has sent out ample warnings of the warm reception awaiting rioters in lucknow and it appears that no one is willing to test Yogi's resolve

khujliwal sat surly and unmoving like a corpse during the official proceedings for Independence day led by PM Modi. He did not clap even while everyone else was clapping.

This guy is a sorry excuse for a human being and he seems to have released several full front page newspaper ads in newspapers all over the country.

But, on a slightly nitpicking note, had arrangements similar to what was done today, had been made by the govt on an earlier occasion too when rioters and jehadi khalistanis over ran the red fort and went on a flag hoisting spree, that debacle could perhaps have been avoided.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 16 Aug 2021 23:22

In the meantime Stalin and his sister ideolog Kanimozhi are trying to cleanse hindu temples of traditions and rituals at the behest of the church.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 17 Aug 2021 06:28

Stalin and the church. A monstrous crime against humanity.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 17 Aug 2021 06:32

https://twitter.com/Javedakhtarjadu/sta ... 3565891591

Javed Akhtar
@Javedakhtarjadu

7h
What kind of super power US is that it couldn’t eradicate these barbarians called Talibans. What kind of world this world is that has left Afghan women to the lack of mercy of these fanatics.Shame on all those western countries who claim to be the saviours of human rights

Yes yes yes. Never my mistake, mistake of the Sanghis, Amreekis, Jews, Isai everyone except me.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 17 Aug 2021 06:34

How many of the more than 10,000 saints did Stalin have to perform rituals for?

Burning the holy incense. Sprinkling the holy water. Chomping on the holy flesh. Anyone for ritualised drowning?

How about repeating the mumbo jumbo in the hive on Sunday morning?

If you go to the church in Bombay, is it mumbai jumbo?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 17 Aug 2021 06:37

This akhtar buffoon shames western countries?

What of the 50 Islamic ones?

It’s always someone else’s fault.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 17 Aug 2021 07:25

Tweets/Instagram/Facebook posts by Indian shantidoots is deeply troubling. While i understand hot headed teens posting such messages, what explains 30 or 40 somethings harbor such admiration and love for a group of barbarians who want to drag an entire nation into the 7th century ? Why hero worship those who have committed mass genocide and wouldn't hesitate to drag anybody's wives/sisters/mothers and stone them to death for not strictly following their perverted dictates ? Perhaps the worst among them are islamo-marxists like our Jawed Akthar/ Arfa Khanum / Rana Ayyubs etc. these characters are many, many times more dangerous than the taliban because they look and sound normal but harbor the same intense hatred towards all non-believers.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 17 Aug 2021 07:42

It’s good time to stick it to them and ask them to move to Afghanistan where they can live without fear. Like that photographer who was killed by a bad bullet.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 17 Aug 2021 07:56

The mocking and taunting of them is all over SM.

They will return with ever more vitriol.

Of course hardcore hindutwadis are pointedly giving a tali to the taliban.

If Voltaire didn’t say there is comedy in tragedy, he should have.

Freud di shadi. Freud is marrying once again.

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 17 Aug 2021 08:18

Time to organize a charity drive to help persecuted innocent Afghan people and donate the proceeds to that ebhil mandir in UP

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 17 Aug 2021 08:36

Actually, I would give to charity to settle some Afghans in India. Let us keep some semblance of humanity, lest we come off as unhinged as that lal bandar on Pakistani television.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 17 Aug 2021 08:47

sanjaykumar wrote:Actually, I would give to charity to settle some Afghans in India. Let us keep some semblance of humanity, lest we come off as unhinged as that lal bandar on Pakistani television.

There are over 40k afghanis in NCR alone. There are thousands more on so called temporary visas. I was watching a Kannada news channel yesterday and they were interviewing Afghan students in some agricultural science college in a small Karnataka town. I am sure India will evacuate those who were employed by our agencies and who worked for our government . Also, for most educated upper middle class/wealthy Afghanis India is not the preferred destination, either they have already left or in line to leave Afghanistan to seek asylum in Canada/Australia/US/some country in Europe.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 17 Aug 2021 09:33

Ambar wrote:Tweets/Instagram/Facebook posts by Indian shantidoots is deeply troubling. While i understand hot headed teens posting such messages, what explains 30 or 40 somethings harbor such admiration and love for a group of barbarians who want to drag an entire nation into the 7th century ? Why hero worship those who have committed mass genocide and wouldn't hesitate to drag anybody's wives/sisters/mothers and stone them to death for not strictly following their perverted dictates ? Perhaps the worst among them are islamo-marxists like our Jawed Akthar/ Arfa Khanum / Rana Ayyubs etc. these characters are many, many times more dangerous than the taliban because they look and sound normal but harbor the same intense hatred towards all non-believers.

these scum have/had unrestricted use of state resources during the congi and commie rule and actually used state power to flourish and extend their reach. a RS seat in the parliament was de rigueur for such vermin but not anymore.

Hence, they are very careful and extremely selective in their targeted outrage and just do not condemn commies and the padre पसंदीदा because that is the assured route to patronage in the padre पसंदीदा west and opening up opportunities for profitable money-spinning tenures and juicy grants from woke universities.

one class a week, if at all, and the rest of the time they spend networking with anti India and anti Hindu wokes which invariably leads to more opportunities for NGO funding and five-star gora patronage for leading traitorous projects in India.

an anti Hindu, anti India Indian RS member of parliament is quite a catch for big FFNGO looking to make headway in India, using the traitor's clout to bypass local regulations and gain network access to higher echelon babooze and judiciary

these are the NGO and woke versions of muckraking mercenaries, multimedia assassins and sickular hired guns

m_saini · Post by **m_saini** » 17 Aug 2021 10:03

sanjaykumar wrote:Actually, I would give to charity to settle some Afghans in India. Let us keep some semblance of humanity, lest we come off as unhinged as that lal bandar on Pakistani television.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7203&p=2510354#p2510354

Some Pew research somewhere said "95% of afghans want sharia law and 99% advocate bull cutlet for leaving Islam, 95% support stoning for adultery"

What humanity saar? I'd rather be a lal bandar than import these crazies.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Aug 2021 11:46

+1

Here we are still struggling to re-settle genocide survivor Pandits in their own properties, and folks want India to give refuge to non-indian non-dharmics...

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 17 Aug 2021 12:39

kit wrote:Support the Afghanistan "Government in exile" to be established in India

Bakistan is well placed. Afgan refugees ke naam pe dede Baba. Biden has 500 million fund for that. Gues who will get major tranch.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 17 Aug 2021 13:15

We came, we saw ,we lost. Head line on RT.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Aug 2021 14:06

Should have been "we came, we refused to see, we lost"

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Aug 2021 14:16

^ even more accurate would be - 'We came, we pretended not to see, we lost'

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 17 Aug 2021 15:09

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apologies for xposting..

Pratyush wrote:^^^ what happens to Taliban-Pakistan relationship, if the TSP decided to erase the Durand line.

In exactly the same manner the TSP was expecting India to erase the LOC in the east.

Alternatively, is the Durand line even relevant today.

the question in that case would be, is anyone willing engage teletubbies? There are videos of bunnies mocking the recent converts on border..best is to operate from behind the scenes..

or just wait for them to overreach.....From a paxi mindset (pakjabi), based on hearing in paxi spaces since US left the following are the key points
1. India has lost in afghanistan
2. India is isolated after being kicked out of BRI/CPEC
3. "Hindu baniya" is dying on roads after CoVID
4. Mudi has lost in bengal and could lose in UP. Remember UP has more population than paxtan so a loss there means a lot to them. Hindu fascist Yogi should lose too.
5. There are too many willing collaborators (farmer) and opressed indian Ms need to be freed from there.
6. There's always a case of plausible denaibility and false flag. Acc to them even kasab was from UP
7. Endian economy is down. They are nowhere in economic map/table of the world ('65, '99)
8. Endians are weak so they should strike
9. China has beaten them at galwan (remember '62).
10. S400 will not arrive before this year end. Remember That is an important milestone for them. (havent heard them but this is my point)

All these assessments in past have result in spectacular strikes like 26/11 or J&K assembly and parliament attack.

I dont expect a 26/11 (giving the ISI and corner plot jernails some iota of sanity but then you never know). So then what next? So next comes is an attack in either Kashmir or in punjab. If I were paxi, I would go for punjab this time.
Here are my reasons for it, again thinking from a paxi mindset.
1. Gives boost to khalistani movement and brings on world map and brings UK/canada and other players on scene as sikhs are well regarded and anyways sikhs are fewer in pak. Puts modi in bad light globally.
2. Modi has soft corner for sikhs/punjab
3. Absence of a bjp govt (police out of control). If govt is dismissed, fascist mudi and what not
4. Rekindling of khalistan through protests and potential local support through NRIs and their resident indian family members
5. Opens new front for India and complicates Indian military calculus.
6. Also, Punjab unlike kashmir is well fortified on both sides so any military action by either side is ruled out. IAF is also ruled out as the number of airfields around punjab to PoK is mindboggling. Artillery shelling affects our economic activity too and in their viewpoint affects the indian economy
7. Local Kashmiris have proved to be useless in last few years and the presence of Indian army has broken their back. Kashmir cause does not find any appeal globally. But now paxis can go and say, hey endians have problems with kashmiris, they also have problem with sikhs, who help everyone. They have problems with others in their country too. You should see to them. THat narrative finds a good story even if a fake one.

Now what could Indians do..well I still think the problem of pakistan has its solution only in three places, Karachi, thar and ..IAF and IA would have been much better with more tejas and artillery pieces with them they will come most likely through imports.

Obviously why i talked this in the endgame of paxtan, simply because I think from here on the long journey that started in 2016 reaches its next phase of no war no peace and active hostilities begins. So far it has been passive hostilities.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Aug 2021 14:39

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Aug 2021 02:20

The other day someone was talking about lack of discussion in Parliament...

Process of judges' appointment is sacrosanct and has dignity attached to it. Media must understand and recognise its sanctity: CJI N V Ramana

via@timesofindia · 12h

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Aug 2021 02:28

Why India needs a law for 'sex on false promise of marriage'.

Isn't there one already...

It's called breach of contract

but then, it's after the poke but before the yoke.

Earlier laws regarding dowry harassment and others on similar lines have been grossly misused and there is no remedy in sight yet

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Aug 2021 02:37

Amazing.......

the talibs are turning the screws on India

as advised by their bosses, the bhikhari pakis, the next step will be to nationalize Indian assets in afghanistan so there is no cost of acquisition.

Taliban stop exports, imports from India

India has long-standing relations with Afghanistan, especially in trade. India has a large investment in Afghanistan.

via@timesofindia

kit · Post by **kit** » 19 Aug 2021 03:31

Did india actually own those investments?..like for example their parliament building the dam etc