2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Oct 2021 11:57

So guy who coined G23 did a thorough research and came to the conclusion. BTW Russian word for Co#dom is Resinka.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 03 Oct 2021 12:01

SRK's son got arrested in a drug bust off the coast of Goa.
So what went wrong for the Bhaiwood?

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 03 Oct 2021 12:54

India is a bad bad country. Shahrukh "s wife was right. Better shift to SA .

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 03 Oct 2021 13:09

Bhaiwood cretins can:

1) Stock & supply grenades, AK_47s to terrorists who inflict carnage in Mumbai. Spend some minimal time in prison rather than be sent to the gallows
2) Run over payment dwellers and walk away scot-free

What's a drug bust compared to these (especially with a favorable State Govt)?

Recall how the Deepika Padukone episode was dropped due to lack of evidence

Thakur_B · Post by **Thakur_B** » 03 Oct 2021 13:57

Rumours indicate Subramanian Swamy may jump ship and go full anti modi.

kit · Post by **kit** » 03 Oct 2021 15:03

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stea ... -w9cvsqjjw

a good read !

Kishida ascends to the national leadership, his success has drawn attention to a remarkable feature of Japanese political life: its overwhelming dominance by a single political party.

When Kishida was elected last week it was not by Japanese voters as a whole, but a few hundred members of the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), by a long way the most successful democratic political organisation in the world. Only the communists in countries such as China and North Korea have held on to power longer and more consistently, and that through violence and repression. The brilliance of the LDP is to have won, won and won again by peaceful, legitimate means.

It has been said, with only a little exaggeration, that the LDP is neither liberal, democratic or a party. The secret of its success lies in the way that it accommodates broad streams of political belief and provides a home for politicians who have little in common, apart from not being socialists.

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 03 Oct 2021 15:56

rsingh wrote:What "G" in G23 stands for? I am in very dirty mood today

I believe it is Group of 23 Cong(I) dissidents who want their party high command to do something about the pathetic state of their party. They are a bunch of nobodies and want the Gandhi family to do something about the drift in the party so that G23 can enjoy some success/power for some more time.

SG, RG, PGV will not do anything about Cong(I) as they are helpless. G23 cannot do anything about Cong(I) as they are a bunch of nobodies.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 03 Oct 2021 15:59

Thakur_B wrote:Rumours indicate Subramanian Swamy may jump ship and go full anti modi.

??who with
Captain and the 23??

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 03 Oct 2021 16:20

Didi's and the rest of by-polls victory means ?? 20 yrs of TMC violence for Bengal
Looks like the WB populace replaced Leftist goons to TMC ones!!
Regardless of the Chandipath etc, WB pro-jihadi anti-Dharmic trend will continue.
This Anti-Dharmic (read liberal/pro-jihadi/secular) is it the result of long history of muslim rule or British establishment and english education with an undercurrent of EJ teaching or the social reform movement???

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 03 Oct 2021 16:31

Bengalis escape the consequences of their foolishness in voting for anti-Hindu forces by taking the first train out of Bengal to look for a job in a BJP-ruled state. They vote for communists / Mamta and quickly make their escape to other states for jobs. This is how they have been surviving.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 03 Oct 2021 17:07

Is it just me, or is it a general perception that WB populace have a condescending attitude vis-à-vis rest of the desi
An attitude of we are educated/liberal/emancipated/woke, regardless of the pathetic situation in WB with regards to jobs/industry/infras etc always downgrade the state they are in!

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 03 Oct 2021 17:44

sanjayc wrote:Bengalis escape the consequences of their foolishness in voting for anti-Hindu forces by taking the first train out of Bengal to look for a job in a BJP-ruled state. They vote for communists / Mamta and quickly make their escape to other states for jobs. This is how they have been surviving.

Isint it the same with Kerala also? I think we need more rule like the Andhra 75 percent jobs for local populace. Hyd, Bangalore and Mumbai need to enact this.

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 03 Oct 2021 18:03

kvraghav wrote:
sanjayc wrote:Bengalis escape the consequences of their foolishness in voting for anti-Hindu forces by taking the first train out of Bengal to look for a job in a BJP-ruled state. They vote for communists / Mamta and quickly make their escape to other states for jobs. This is how they have been surviving.
Isint it the same with Kerala also? I think we need more rule like the Andhra 75 percent jobs for local populace. Hyd, Bangalore and Mumbai need to enact this.

Worse in Kerala, because they have some money (Gulf Munificence) and think their model of development works.
While they have achieved 100% literacy years before other states, there are no jobs inside their state and there are no jobs requiring literacy in
Malayalam outside Kerala.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Oct 2021 21:00

Thakur_B wrote:Rumours indicate Subramanian Swamy may jump ship and go full anti modi.

He's been full anti-Modi since 2015 when he realized Modi isn't going to give him time of the day let alone a cabinet berth. He has attacked the incumbent government on every decision and borderline sided with Pakistan and China during skirmishes just to put the PM and the NDA government down. His most vicious attacks are ofcourse reserved for whoever is the finance minister because as per Swamy no one understands economics better than him ! With his constant trolling and a behavior which more often than not resembles an out of control missile, he has gather millions of followers on twitter . Ofcourse its something else that if he tries to contest elections again the result will be exactly the same as his previous attempts when he lost deposit (except when he won with Jayalalitha's support in Madurai ) each time. Outside of twitter he has a couple of cheerleaders on youtube who give him platform to vent his frustration - PGurus and Newsx, the combined subscribers/viewers of both these channels together doesn't even cross 200k.

Slowly but surely the third front experiment which is carried out once every decade is being carted to the test bed again. Congress under Mainos has hit rock bottom with the ouster of Capt Amrinder Singh and 23 other gray heads who are openly attacking the "holy family" now will likely form their own party. Then there is Prashant Kishore and Mamata Banerjee with the later portraying herself as the savior of the third front and the only one who can defeat Modi/BJP based on her recent victory in WB. Ofcourse the joker in the pack is Kejri and his AAP , he too harbors a burning ambition of becoming the PM, and will throw his weight behind a third front led by Congress rebels + TMC + Regional satraps + commies . With so many wheels suddenly in motion , Subramanian Swamy smells an opportunity to once again make a last ditch attempt to get a cabinet position in this new front. His opportunism isnt misplaced after all he became a cabinet minister for the first and last time (for full 6 months) in a 3rd front government led by Chandrashekar in 1990-91, 30 years ago.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 03 Oct 2021 21:23

Rsatchi wrote:
Thakur_B wrote:Rumours indicate Subramanian Swamy may jump ship and go full anti modi.
??who with
Captain and the 23??

momta begum it seems has already said no to give him a RS seat.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Oct 2021 21:35

Excellent summary on Su Swamy by Pradeep Singh who hosts the very pleasant and neutral political commentary on his channel 'Apka Akhbar'.

nits · Post by **nits** » 03 Oct 2021 22:18

8 dead as protest against ministers' visit turns violent in UP's Lakhimpur

This is getting messy, conflicting report of farmers and BJP ppl getting killed

Link

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 03 Oct 2021 22:37

Kati wrote:SRK's son got arrested in a drug bust off the coast of Goa.
So what went wrong for the Bhaiwood?

So SRK endorsed pepsi but son prefer coke ?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 03 Oct 2021 22:54

Parents cannot really control their children nor vice versa. Interesting to see that the Congress party has not reacted by calling for legal sales of hard drugs.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2021 22:59

Interesting headlines and interesting coincidences or they really interesting collaborations

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Oct 2021 23:13

nits wrote:8 dead as protest against ministers' visit turns violent in UP's Lakhimpur

This is getting messy, conflicting report of farmers and BJP ppl getting killed

Link

Expect this to intensify as UP and 4 other states goes to polls. Looks like the agro-broker terrorists tried to kill the minister's son, so his car while fleeing from the attackers escape ran over those blocking its way . The driver and 3 BJP workers are among 8 dead. This is a redux of Haryana where in the last year the Congress and INLD keep attacking BJP rallies and its members, ofcourse Mamata took it to a whole different level. Yogi is no Manohar lal Khattar, the kingpins of those holding UP at ransom should be picked up one at a time. The entire drama of attacking police and desecrating the flag on Republic Day was to force the Police into firing, and when that failed they have now started other methods to force a reaction to reinvigorate the fledgling protests .

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 04 Oct 2021 00:40

chetak wrote:Interesting headlines and interesting coincidences or they really interesting collaborations

Chetakji - Same author. Still the collaboration and narrative building needs no additional proof

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 04 Oct 2021 01:44

Paki's (apostrophe as in contraction) think they're still Indian. That train has left. Others may be disembarking as well.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 04 Oct 2021 02:04

So just like that one of the key players in the MH extortion racket and one of the brains behind the arrest and interrogation of Republic TV staff flees the country. Former Mumbai Police Commissioner and DG of MH Home Guards Param Bir Singh has disappeared and no one seems to know about his whereabouts ! First the center let MH Police go on witchhunt against anyone speaking against the Uddhav raj, and finally reacted only when the extortion and racketeering reached the steps of Antilia. We've seen this before in the case of former Kolkata police chief Rajeev Kumar who was recalled to Delhi but WB govt posted him in a different role. We also saw how SP Lipi Singh so easily got away with murder in Munger, Bihar, and the center did not even bother recalling to post her in a different role. Amit Shah really needs to crack the whip on his bureaucrats !

Y. Kanan · Post by **Y. Kanan** » 04 Oct 2021 02:35

sanjayc wrote:Bengalis escape the consequences of their foolishness in voting for anti-Hindu forces by taking the first train out of Bengal to look for a job in a BJP-ruled state. They vote for communists / Mamta and quickly make their escape to other states for jobs. This is how they have been surviving.

Reminds me of the USA phenomenon where people on the east & west coasts vote far left and then flee to the right wing states after destroying their own.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 04 Oct 2021 03:24

sanjayc wrote:Bengalis escape the consequences of their foolishness in voting for anti-Hindu forces by taking the first train out of Bengal to look for a job in a BJP-ruled state. They vote for communists / Mamta and quickly make their escape to other states for jobs. This is how they have been surviving.

back to his fact free bengali bashing I see. Bhawanipur constituency is 60% non bengali btw. why is UP/BIhar/Raj not blamed for electing congress or Mah for electing cong/NCP ?

given the fact that this by-election was gifted to MB by BJP central leadership in a backroom deal, it's a bit of a stretch to blame bengali hindus for this.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Oct 2021 05:00

Kaivalya wrote:
chetak wrote:Interesting headlines and interesting coincidences or they really interesting collaborations

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAqcqm4VIAE ... 00x900[img]
Chetakji - Same author. Still the collaboration and narrative building needs no additional proof

Kaivalya saar,

they normally change a few words here and there and the title is almost always different when published like this.

the audiences are different, but she has conveyed the same woke and negative message. cashmere was, as always, firmly off the table and the pakis know that bitter truth well enough.

This was a trip to the UNGA, biden was a courtesy visit on the way. QUAD was a mere show of hands, more for biden's domestic audiences rather than anything else concrete because QUAD and aukus are in a flux, singed as they are with the white hot anger from the french at being diddled out of 90 billion$, give or take and the EU equally angry for being ignored by the US

The french have legitimate interests in the Indo pacific region and have had long term concerns of their own.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 04 Oct 2021 08:14

Regarding Lakhimpur Khiri (part of Lucknow division so it isn't some far off district) - what was the LIU doing if they could not detect outsiders gathering in force just when a minister was coming for a visit, especially when elections are due soon. What about the local police as well as the extra companies which must have been sent into district for beefning up security. Everybody was missing.

Certainly someone in admin is sympathetic to their 'cause' or equally, wants the gool old days back when a monk wasn't whipping the state into shape.

Yogi ji needs to clean up the stable. Successful atempts are being made to deprive him from claiming improvements in L&O.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 04 Oct 2021 08:29

UP was a microcosm of the old, unruly, poor India led by regional "warlords" until the monk began chiseling away and made it into something which resembles a state in modern India. While he has made tremendous strides in L&O, there is clearly a long way to go. This was pre-planned without doubt, I thought it was spontaneous but given the speed at which hyenas from Delhi including Priyanka Gandhi and Samajwadi Party leaders rushed to Lakhimpur khera within hours after the tragedy shows that they knew something was about to give. By all reports majority of those killed were BJP workers beaten to death. I hope Yogi and Amit Shah are very very vigilant because these kind of headline grabbing attacks on workers, police and ordinary citizens will intensify as elections get closer. The perpetrators must not be spared, it would be foolish to take them on collectively but the kingpins of these pre-meditated murders must be picked up one by one without making much noise. The middlemen terrorists have given call to another nationwide bandh.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 04 Oct 2021 09:24

Sicanta wrote:Regarding Lakhimpur Khiri (part of Lucknow division so it isn't some far off district) - what was the LIU doing if they could not detect outsiders gathering in force just when a minister was coming for a visit, especially when elections are due soon. What about the local police as well as the extra companies which must have been sent into district for beefning up security. Everybody was missing.

Division is a broad organization unit. Lakhimpur khiri is border district with Nepal and has substantial Sikh population. Lots of participants from the district in the farmers protest in Delhi border.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 04 Oct 2021 10:49

https://twitter.com/SudhanidhiB/status/ ... 82664?s=19

Sikh residents of bhawanipore celebrating TMC win.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Oct 2021 11:37

UP Violence Live Updates: Police Case Against Union Minister's Son; Priyanka Gandhi Detained On Way To Lakhimpur Kheri. Looks like more such incidents would be created in parts of UP in the name of 'farmer's protests'. The game plan seems to be the same one Congress used to topple the first elected Commie government of Kerala. There will be 'protests' which will be held in various parts of the state, rallies etc would be in full swing. And invariably the crowd in these would turn violent making the police to retaliate in kind. In KL at least the then CM who held the police portfolio as well was incompetent in dealing with the police which also increased the damage (to the government).

What is the demographics etc. in Lakhimpur? Is it is a 'communal' or 'secular' area? Does this area have a strong BJP presence or is it Rakesh Dakait's home ground?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Oct 2021 11:40

Sachin wrote:UP Violence Live Updates: Police Case Against Union Minister's Son; Priyanka Gandhi Detained On Way To Lakhimpur Kheri. Looks like more such incidents would be created in parts of UP in the name of 'farmer's protests'. The game plan seems to be the same one Congress used to topple the first elected Commie government of Kerala. There will be 'protests' which will be held in various parts of the state, rallies etc would be in full swing. And invariably the crowd in these would turn violent making the police to retaliate in kind. In KL at least the then CM who held the police portfolio as well was incompetent in dealing with the police which also increased the damage (to the government).

What is the demographics etc. in Lakhimpur? Is it is a 'communal' or 'secular' area? Does this area have a strong BJP presence or is it Rakesh Dakait's home ground?

I understand that it has a considerable sikh population, actively supporting the "farmer's agitation" in dilli and the district borders nepal.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 04 Oct 2021 12:38

What have Sikhs in LK got to do with Punjab farmers agitation? Seems more like RoP modus operandi - each one will support a far off distant cause whether it impacts them or not. Got to keep a watch on this tendency.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Oct 2021 13:00

Larry Walker wrote:What have Sikhs in LK got to do with Punjab farmers agitation? Seems more like RoP modus operandi - each one will support a far off distant cause whether it impacts them or not. Got to keep a watch on this tendency.

Lakhimpur Kheri is almost Punjab in Terai of UP.

During heady days of Khalistani dreams in the air, there were many arrests here.

Quite a few terrorists would come to hide here from Punjab.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Oct 2021 13:37

The honorable SC by sitting on the report of the so called expert committee and not deciding on the farm laws is creating a dangerous precedence. Along with damaging the law and order situation in the country.

On the basis of the report, if they had suggested certain improvements in the laws things would have calmed down.

But by not acting they have totally vitiated the atmosphere.

banrjeer · Post by **banrjeer** » 04 Oct 2021 14:04

Rsatchi wrote:Is it just me, or is it a general perception that WB populace have a condescending attitude vis-à-vis rest of the desi
An attitude of we are educated/liberal/emancipated/woke, regardless of the pathetic situation in WB with regards to jobs/industry/infras etc always downgrade the state they are in!

Yes that’s been the case . But a bit more subdued because there’s nothing to crow about anymore. bongs may become stateless once wb merges with bd.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Oct 2021 14:20

banrjeer wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Is it just me, or is it a general perception that WB populace have a condescending attitude vis-à-vis rest of the desi
An attitude of we are educated/liberal/emancipated/woke, regardless of the pathetic situation in WB with regards to jobs/industry/infras etc always downgrade the state they are in!
Yes that’s been the case . But a bit more subdued because there’s nothing to crow about anymore. bongs may become stateless once wb merges with bd.

looks like most are voting for the TMC and finding jobs in other states, maybe because the goondas know who voted for whom

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 04 Oct 2021 14:49

This by-election was no longer a fight against TMC or anything in general. If Didi lost this seat - only thing the voters would get in return is full wrath of TMC and looking at GoI actions on post poll violence they understood that no one will come to their rescue. On the other hand - Didi winning handsomely means full care and upkeep of the consfituency and it's voters. This outcome was a no-brainer.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Oct 2021 14:54

I am concerned about the scale of violence that is being unleashed against the BJP both electoral and otherwise.