Cain Marko wrote:bharathp wrote:
its a shame that cheen thinks they can salami slice us. that speaks volumes of our own strength projection (due to years of commie infused congi rule).
US/Aus are projecting strength away from their shores into SCS - need to respect and learn from that.
This is a crucial point. India is reticent and reluctant to play a strong role even in it's own backyard...AFPAK + POK. Frankly, what is needed for this is not some huge MIC, India has had enough mil superiority for such a purpose. What has lacked is the ability to project the image that we are ready to take a few punches in an offensive war.
Problem with the defensive mindset is that we take a few punches anyway.
It is not the defensive mindset but the offshore BIF manufactured reaction of the minorities that are staying many of India's legitimate reactions and forward policies.
India's casualties in cashmere would have led to public protests elsewhere but the IA still soldiers on. No one doubts India's ability to take punches or dish it out but this is the GoI's way of not importing the strife into the heartland and let it fester in a slow boil internal dissent and near civil war like scenario, affecting nation building and stunting growth and creating a paki like economic chaos that is sinking their diseased country.
unlike the pakis, India has demonstrated to the world that it can determinedly walk and chew gum at the same time. we have tackled the pakis and the cheeni and also continued our economic growth
Ask xi, he will certify that India has moved very rapidly from being a modest, reticent supplicate as was the policy during the congi-commie years to a determined aggressor, more than willing to climb the escalation ladder by committing matching resources to take on the pampered cheeni army
the shia and sunni nations, because of huge cash transfers, ostensibly for mosque building, and "scholarships" in their countries, have acquired the power to sway large numbers of our population and that is why there is violence and agitation for "atrocities" in palestine, or some silly unconnected event in turkey or whatever
this is jehad, plain and simple and yet it has been going on unrestrained since independence and no one has clamped down on it officially by making clear the policies of India to these ummah nations
this has become a standardized SOP in India, institutionalized by the congis and the commies, after the success (because of the foolish support of our own "apostle of peace") of the khilafat movement. Our relations with the shia and sunni stronghold countries were, till very recently, tempered by the imagined reaction of either iran or saudi. iran does rather blatantly makes use of the local shias to try and influence the GoI but the saudis are far more subtle
our relations, even today, with the gelf countries are relatively circumspect because of the vast numbers of Indian workers dependent on their goodwill to remain gainfully employed in their workforce and their welfare and safety susceptible to the magnanimity and mood of the local rulers
India hasn't fired a single shot ever in palestine, not counting our troops who fought there during the british times of course, and yet we are constantly forced to support and aid these jehadi punks that even the arab states shun and keep at bay and our heart is firmly with the israelis
this is because of the puncture walla policies that we follow and that is what our puncture wallahs have become accustomed to and demand from the govt
what is happening on India's borders is not defensive. It is reactive, specific to a threat that is pressed upon us in this deliberate low intensity warfare, carefully calibrated by the pakis not to cross the line where India stops reaction and chooses offence like in balakot for example.
we have a dullard MEA staff and other babooze, all of whom are transactive in the extreme, who all have their eyes on cushy post retirement sinecures in the US, well paid in some non entity of a thinktank, and spouting peace and compromise nonsense in some backwaters academic fora, literally singing for their supper.
The alternate is the very lucrative and paying aman ki tamasha led track thoo circuit where these traitors get to enjoy ghazals and qawalli in mehfils set around the attractions of sharab, kharab, kabab, and adab with paki, cheeni, turki, and other BIF paymasters including the FFNGOs.
so your characterization of India as being reluctant take a few punches in an offensive war is extremely uncharitable and untenable.
We have never been warmongers but the fact that we are accomplished warriors is not lost on the paki or the cheeni or others around the world. The pakis derisively called us banias and yet lost four wars and half their country to the very same "bania" Indian Armed forces. A similar realization would have belatedly dawned on xi and his PLA
AFPAK is definitely not our backyard...but, POK will certainly be one day.
we have no dog in the afghan fight. we were looking for CAR access via the chabahar iran afghan route but that has been back burnered for now
POK has put the paki claimed and cheeni's CPEC access via POK on the international stage as Indian territory. India has cleverly refused to take part in the CPEC because the cheeni have transgressed Indian territory. Our claim cannot be negated unless we choose to give it up or negotiate