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The benign days of vajpayee are long gone.

chandrababu naidu can personally attest to this new narrative and the consequences of betrayal, playing with fire, and the ramifications of गद्दारी and दोगलापन


IT-Dept provisionally attaches properties linked to Maharashtra Deputy CM Ajit Pawar worth over Rs 1,000 crore located in various states



IT-Dept provisionally attaches properties linked to Maharashtra Deputy CM Ajit Pawar worth over Rs 1,000 crore located in various states


The department has given 90 days to NCP leader Ajit Pawar to prove that these attached properties were not purchased with undisclosed income.

2 November, 2021
OpIndia Staff

NCP leader Ajit Pawar under IT Dept scanner


The Income Tax Department has provisionally attached properties worth Rs 1000 crore under the Prohibition of Benami Property Transactions Act, 1988, belonging to Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister and senior NCP leader Ajit Pawar. The central agency has issued a notice to Pawar, informing him about the same. The department has given 90 days to Ajit Pawar, the nephew of NCP patriarch Sharad Pawar to prove that these attached properties were not purchased with Benami (undisclosed and illegal) money.

#JustIn: The Income Tax department has provisionally attached four assets including a cooperative sugar factories liked to NCP leader Ajit Pawar under the Prohibition of Benami Property Transactions Act, 1988.
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The four properties belonging to the NCP leader, that have been provisionally attached by the agency are a flat worth Rs 20 crores in South Delhi, Parth Pawar’s (Ajit Pawar’s son) office at Nirmal House, estimated to be worth Rs 25 crores, a sugar factory in Jarandeshwar worth around Rs 600 crores, and a resort in Goa worth around Rs 250 crores.

Besides, the IT-Department has also provisionally attached 27 pieces of land across Maharashtra, the combined market value of which is estimated to be around 500 crores. All these properties are believed to be belonging to Ajit Pawar and his kin.

It may be noted that until the probe isn’t over, Ajit Pawar cannot sell these properties. He has been granted 90 days to prove that these aforementioned properties belonging to him and his family members have not been bought illegally with unaccounted funds.

Unaccounted income worth Rs 184 crore detected in IT raids linked to Ajit Pawar
Prior to this, the IT department, on October 7, had conducted searches multiple premises of two real estate groups in Mumbai linked to the family of Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Ajit Pawar and found unaccounted income of Rs 184 crore.

Without naming Ajit Pawar or his kin, the tax authorities said evidence gathered during raids on 70 locations throughout Mumbai, Pune, Baramati, Goa, and Jaipur pointed to several prima-facie unaccounted and benami transactions. The department said suspiciously procured funds were used to buy properties at these places, besides making investments in a sugar mill.

Sources privy to the case said that the IT authorities had noticed dubious transactions related to Ananta Merx Pvt Ltd, the company of Ajit Pawar’s son Parth. The company was incorporated last year with its registered office address being Nirmal Building at Nariman Point. During the searches conducted on October 7, the agency had seized more than Rs 2.1 crore in unaccounted cash and jewellery worth Rs 4.3 crore.


NCP leader and former Maha HM Anil Deshmukh also under scanner for money laundering

Ajit Pawar is the second NCP leader who is being probed for acquiring illegal properties worth several hundred crores. Besides Pawar, senior NCP leader and former Maharashtra Home Minister Anil Deshmukh is also under the scanner of the Enforcement Directorate (ED) and the CBI in alleged extortion and money laundering cases.

In fact, the Enforcement Directorate on Tuesday (November 2) arrested former Maharashtra Minister and NCP leader Anil Deshmukh after over 12 hours of questioning in an extortion and money-laundering case. Deshmukh (71) who was in hiding, was arrested under the provisions of the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA).

A special PMLA court in Mumbai in the month of September had said that money trails prima facie indicated that former Maharashtra Home Minister Anil Deshmukh received Rs. 4.7 crores from Sachin Waze and his aide Kundan Shinde.
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Chetakji:

Do you mean Raghuram Rajan when you mention Govinda Rajan? :-?
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Kakkaji wrote:Chetakji:

Do you mean Raghuram Rajan when you mention Govinda Rajan? :-?
indeed

many others do so too.

his very name is haram
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The difference in the leadership



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BJP routed in by elections. HP, WB , RJ similar results. Alarm bells?

Cong clean sweep in Himachal assembly by-elections is a warning to BJP: poor state leadership, inflation & jobs remain a worry. Modi’s charisma doesn’t work in the states as WB & Karnataka’s #Hangal have shown. Cong not a spent force. https://twitter.com/MinhazMerchant/stat ... 07779?s=20
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Fuel prices are going to be an issue. UP State will manage it somehow. All they have to do is reduce the state level taxes and the prices will be either stabilized or even reduced in short term.

Oil prices are not going to fall. Not while Biden is in power.
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Income Tax Department has attached properties of Maharashtra Deputy CM Ajit Pawar worth Rs 1000 cr. Five properties including Nirmal Tower at Nariman Point, Mumbai has been attached by IT Dept. Last month, IT Dept conducted raids at houses& companies of sisters of Pawar: Sources
via@ANI·5h 11:15 am · 2 Nov 2021
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BaJaPa gets decimated in bypolls across the country, even in RJ and KA where it was supposed to be the litmus test for incumbent governments BJP has taken a hit . Said so even before WB elections and saying again that winning elections is 80% economy and 20% everything else. You cannot use Modi and Ram Mandir posters and win elections when your karyakartas cannot afford 2 liters of petrol for their motorcycles. Or tout the “ Ujwala yojana” and go around charging people over 900 Rs per cylinder.
In the age of internet and Twitter it is hard to blame the inflation on opec and Biden when people can get the historic crude prices and retail prices on click of a button. The surest way of getting myself punched in the face is to argue with an average citizen on the street and tell them about govt reported 4 % inflation!

UP is not a foregone conclusion by any stretch of imagination. BJP has it’s work cut out to get a majority in UP.
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IndraD wrote:BJP routed in by elections. HP, WB , RJ similar results. Alarm bells?

Cong clean sweep in Himachal assembly by-elections is a warning to BJP: poor state leadership, inflation & jobs remain a worry. Modi’s charisma doesn’t work in the states as WB & Karnataka’s #Hangal have shown. Cong not a spent force. https://twitter.com/MinhazMerchant/stat ... 07779?s=20
https://twitter.com/Sanjay_Dixit/status ... EIdHQ&s=09
Secular BJP wiped out of Himachal and West Bengal in Assembly bye-polls. Communal BJP sweeps Assam, ahead in MP and leads Telangana. If @BJP4India continues to take Hindus for granted, this will be the future.
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Inflation is having its effect too. BJP has to understand people look at petrol prices every day. There are so many jokes going around showing the frustration of people. GST/IT taxes are going up. Exports are going up. Jobs will go up too. They have to understand these prices at the petrol bunk are daily reminders to every one
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That is the wrong inference, people in economic distress or excessive prosperity forget what is correct. It's the economic angle here which is at play, plus money power of BIF
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Aditya_V wrote:That is the wrong inference, people in economic distress or excessive prosperity forget what is correct. It's the economic angle here which is at play, plus money power of BIF
I agree to some extent. But people also see the effect of petrol price every time they go the petrol bunk. Unfortunately, it has its own multiplier effect due to SM/Whatsapp.

Many people were arguing that when GST brings in taxes and IT revenues go up, we can reduce indirect taxes. Isn't it right thing to do to reduce inflation?

They should also display Central taxes and state taxes on every petrol bunk and even on gas cylinders.
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This is BJP's self-goal and not Biden, OPEC cartel or the state governments. The states can always argue their VAT is on base price+central excise+dealer commission , and it is the center which for 7 years withheld the benefits of low crude prices by increasing the excise and now blames high crude prices for pain at the pump is the culprit. Its not just petrol, soc.media is full of people exchanging baskets of vegetables as "Diwali gifts" thanks to food inflation. As a crude joke the 19 kg commercial gas cylinder went up by another Rs 220 from 1st of Nov, apparently the domestic LPG prices too will be going up by another Rs 100 within the next 2 weeks. Forget about dining with the family in a decent restaurant, even the 3 chais at a bicycle tera is now a luxury for most.

Lets not get swayed by record high stock markets, record exports, GST collection and toll collections. The tolls are bringing in more because the leakage is reduced now thanks to fasttag , the government has also increased both the number of tolls and the toll rates, and not because of an increase in economic activity. As for stock market and exports, its a global story and not just India. An unprecedented $15 trillion+ in new money has been created post pandemic across the world which is rushing into everything from cars, homes, stocks, toys etc. This bonanza will last for another year before things settles down.

BJP loves to tell the media about fiscal prudence, reduced CAD, budget deficit etc. these things don't win elections, and what good taking so much money from the public when you know the minute you lose that money will be looted by the opposition parties . Its all water off a duck's back really, either the BJP/RSS leadership are deaf or naive or plain incompetent, i think its a combination of all 3.
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Ambar wrote:This is BJP's self-goal and not Biden, OPEC cartel or the state governments. The states can always argue their VAT is on base price+central excise+dealer commission , and it is the center which for 7 years withheld the benefits of low crude prices by increasing the excise and now blames high crude prices for pain at the pump is the culprit. Its not just petrol, soc.media is full of people exchanging baskets of vegetables as "Diwali gifts" thanks to food inflation. As a crude joke the 19 kg commercial gas cylinder went up by another Rs 220 from 1st of Nov, apparently the domestic LPG prices ........

I can very well understand that price rise and inflation is a very important factor but I guess people of MP don't get subsidized petrol . Poll dynamics is some thing not predictable. If you look in total number of seats that went for bypolls in three states where opposition and ruling parties have parity , namely MP , Raj and HP , total 9 seats( including LS seat) bjp got 4 and cong 5. Out of it incumbent bjp lost 3 seats ( 1 each in 3 states ) and incumbent congress lost 2 seats . What's worrying is the two incumbent seats bjp got votes less than 10k votes both in HP and RJ .


Money generated through taxes are not being stacked in Swiss banks , the type of infra projects being executed with other social schemes ,vaccine rollout etc , it costs money. Apart from them , from security point of view Capex expenditure have gone with dynamics in our paki and Chini border.

Most prudent decision should be bringing LPG under GST and see the impact .
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Ambar wrote: BJP loves to tell the media about fiscal prudence, reduced CAD, budget deficit etc. these things don't win elections, and what good taking so much money from the public when you know the minute you lose that money will be looted by the opposition parties . Its all water off a duck's back really, either the BJP/RSS leadership are deaf or naive or plain incompetent, i think its a combination of all 3.
The mid term poll.results are dollops of reality served on the platter to Modi and rest of bhajapa.

If they still don't wake up from their slumber, then nothing will. Remember no amount of positive spin by Narasimha Rao and AB Vajpayee govts could get them reelected. Same fate will await Modi as well.

The govt seems to have lost the plot wrt food price inflation let alone fuel price which contributes to it.
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There are several loopholes in the tax law which are exploited by the top 0.1%
1. No tax on agricultural income
2. You can sell and buy back the same security, creating an artificial capital loss, which you can offset against a capital gain. Same with bonus
stripping.
3. Real estate, as already mentioned.
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https://swarajyamag.com/politics/assam- ... iswa-sarma
The crucial takeaway from the results of the bypolls in Assam is that popular support from chief minister Sarma’s decisive leadership has increased.

This is evident from the fact that the three legislators who quit the AIUDF and Congress to join the BJP after the elections not only retained their seats, but also won on BJP tickets by much larger margins.
Please continue the R&D (Rona-Dhona) though...
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Looking at the numbers for welfare beneficiaries of cooking gas at https://www.digitria.in/pm-jan-dhan-yojana-list/ it is around 400 million people (40 crores) people. Just doing a back of the envelope calculation here since the analysis in this thread is similar to the anal-e-sis of the likes of Kaushik Basu, world famous con-e-mist, i.e., anecdotal and not based on hard numbers, so not useful in seeing trends.

A preliminary web search reveals that Two wheeler stats per year is bounded by 2 crores (all time high) and over a decade that's 20 crores (max)
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Two-wheeler sales in India reached an all-time high as of 2019, when India's auto industry sold some 21 million units.
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If we assume people in the second group switch loyalties due to petrol prices, that still leaves 19 crores who will not be affected by these price increases as they are welfare beneficiaries and have been the backbone of support for BJP's re-election in 2019.

Not arguing for hubris on the part of the BJP, but welfare beneficiaries who have not been conned into thinking that the state govt. was responsible for the program (and there seem to be plenty of those in the states where the BJP is losing repeatedly) seem likely to vote for BJP even in the face of price rise. The middle-class has always been fickle in their voting patterns, deciding on price rices, while the ultra-poor class has seen their lives develop in front of them, and they will continue to vote for that change in their lived reality.

These complaints about the BJP have not changed since before 2019, if we go by the english speaking, urban crowd on social media which does the most vocal complaining, but they did not help the opposition much in 2019, not that past events can be used to predict 2024. Twitter's overall reach is 60 million or 6 crore (out of a nation of 120 crores) -- seems like a lot of impressions here are just anecdotal rather than splitting the populace into those who will be affected by the this price rise (middle class that does not benefit from welfare schemes) and those will not.

The joker in the pack is the SC elevating Chandrachud to CJI position in a few months in 2022, which seems to be deliberately gamed so that he remains CJI until election time in 2024. The judiciary and the congress party have the same interests in preserving a system that has made them rich and powerful, so they will work together to preserve their group's interests. The fact that the judiciary is apathetic to the state of poor undertrials rotting in prison for decades, while rich guys get their day in court within 24 hours, demonstrates the political power play of the judiciary to override the public mandate, done by a group of unelected lawyers with a history of nepotism.

On the other hand, the BJP leadership are surely aware but being very careful until they have the mandate (2/3rd of the seats) to override the judiciary, since they have to fix the judiciary without destroying its credibility in the eyes of the public at large (which seems like an impossible task, but so did all the things that have happened in the past 7 years).
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triank wrote:...
https://twitter.com/Sanjay_Dixit/status ... EIdHQ&s=09
Secular BJP wiped out of Himachal and West Bengal in Assembly bye-polls. Communal BJP sweeps Assam, ahead in MP and leads Telangana. If @BJP4India continues to take Hindus for granted, this will be the future.
Unfortunately, people like Sanjay Dixit at JD are a new breed of BJP/Modi haters who run their right wing YouTube channels. This new breed has figured out that they can take high moral ground, take Hindu/sanatan side and bash modi/shah 24x7, because it is good for business. High rating and viewership from all sides. It helps opposition, disgruntled bjp insiders, while helping keep perception of right wing support. I’ve contributed to his channel several times, but no more.

While the by-polls are important, it is theoretically impossible for national leaders to throw their full weight around in every small or off cycle local poll. Local leadership is important. People like Sanjay Dixit who never fought any election do not have any appreciation for that. How much has Sanjay Dixit opened his own record as former IAS to the public? Very knowledgeable person of history but at this point he is suffering from A syndrome which make people believe that just because they are good at one thing, they should opine on everything under the sun.

Opposition know that only hyper nationalists can create a divide between gullible Hindus and that is the only way to break Hindu unity. I expect this to grow bigger and louder up to GE24. Absolute unity of Hindus is hated by everyone — opposition, Bakis, China, East, West, believers, non-believers everyone.
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two incmbent seats that bjp lost in RJ and MP is by wide margin although the seats Cong retained against BJP were with small margin. Need to check both these constituencies , as if people just gave a thappad to those local bjp candidates who could not even garner 10k votes although they were the incumbents.
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RJ, HP, WB and KAR is where BJP has taken the maximum hit. RJ which usually swings between INC and BJP saw the incumbent INC comfortably trounce BJP, 18 % for BJP and 38% for INC in vote share is a huge difference. Same in HP, 3 out of 3 for INC which won comfortably in all 3 seats. Assam is unique because you have UPPL which won 2 seats and UPPL has its own cadre and vote base. KAR BJP govt has been on a sticky wicket for 2 full years now, Basvaraj Bommai was just coming to grips with his new role and has now been dealt with a big defeat in his home turf. For his party to lose by 90,000 votes from essentially his seat will have wide repercussions. An already shaky government with four warring factions, there are rumors plenty of many of his MLAs in talks with INC.

As for WB, the less said the better. Just like Delhi while the rest of India may find it baffling why would anyone vote for such incompetent, arrogrant, anti-nationals but the citizens of those states seem to have a different idea and perhaps they know what's best for them.

We have 5 states going to assembly elections in few months time, I hope BJP leadership wakes up from its deep slumber before it is too late.
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Bypolls are only little indicators. We can't take that into full confidence.

But we all agree that Petrol and gas cylinder taxes are too high. They affect transportation and cost of goods.

I do support taxes on gas/petrol for both environmental and a scarce resource for us mostly imported but 100-120% taxes on every liter is very burdensome. I hope BJP is more sympathetic to people instead of telling them "suck it up" as some MP ministers are doing.
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Ambar wrote:RJ, HP, WB and KAR is where BJP has taken the maximum hit. RJ which usually swings between INC and BJP saw the incumbent INC comfortably trounce BJP, 18 % for BJP and 38% for INC in vote share is a huge difference. Same in HP, 3 out of 3 for INC which won comfortably in all 3 seats. Assam is unique because you have UPPL which won 2 seats and UPPL has its own cadre and vote base. KAR BJP govt has been on a sticky wicket for 2 full years now, Basvaraj Bommai was just coming to grips with his new role and has now been dealt with a big defeat in his home turf. For his party to lose by 90,000 votes from essentially his seat will have wide repercussions. An already shaky government with four warring factions, there are rumors plenty of many of his MLAs in talks with INC.

As for WB, the less said the better. Just like Delhi while the rest of India may find it baffling why would anyone vote for such incompetent, arrogrant, anti-nationals but the citizens of those states seem to have a different idea and perhaps they know what's best for them.

We have 5 states going to assembly elections in few months time, I hope BJP leadership wakes up from its deep slumber before it is too late.
BJP has also won in TG comfortably, a high profile victory as the candidate was expelled from TRS due to personal rivalry with KCR.
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Of course, when the glass is half-full, it is also half-empty and an empty glass will definitely impact the prospects of all Hindus in 2024. The whole 3.5 years away. The poor and middle-class will punish the Bhaji-Pao Party for petrol diesel going up and hence mudi will rezine. Only if he takes the counsel of the learned at BRF who are so ahead of the curve that they will be able to win MLA (leave MP) seats anywhere in India.

And a couple of MPs told some of the gatherings where I was part of that in politics, a night can make all the difference. So now I have to shudder for 3.5 x 365.25 nights on what will happen tomorrow when the general elections are in 2024.

And while we are dhoti shivering or shivering in our dhotis every night, we missed the following:

1. COP26

https://www.livemint.com/opinion/online ... 41232.html
India and its partners also have every right to doubt the veracity and seriousness of net-zero declarations by 2050 made by rich countries. The EU faces severe energy shortages and rising power bills. Convincing coal-dependent members like Poland to shut down fossil-fuel industries or gas-dependent members like Germany that seek to import fossil fuels for decades to come, is not going to be a cakewalk. The EU has a ‘long-term strategy’ for its 2050 net-zero goal, but its struggles to enforce supranational authority on member countries do not bode well.
More importantly:
Modi’s blunt statement that “the promises made till date regarding climate finance have proved to be hollow", and his exhortation that “developed countries provide climate finance of $1 trillion at the earliest", echoed concerns of the G77 group of developing countries. .... Even the modest goal of $100 billion climate finance per annum that was mooted in Copenhagen in 2009 has not been fulfilled. Modi’s remark that “countries which do not live up to their promises made on climate finance must be pressured too" brought home the frustration that there has been too much emphasis in Western discourse and negotiation stances on more ambitious future carbon emission cuts and not enough on keeping past promises on climate finance and redressing historical climate injustice.
In nutshell, Mudi_who_does_not_listen_to_sage_advice lit a fire under MaGreta Dumberg types. Modi called the bluff of the so-called developed nations and made some bold commitments. India emerged as a world leader in G20 grouping and now in COP26.

And with such a bold statement, we might not even know if the petrol prices are going through a patch of "irrational exuberance" and will fall down in future or its demand will decrease considerably?

Anyway:
The US, which insists it’s back with a bang to provide global leadership on climate change under President Joe Biden, currently consumes 8.5% of the world’s coal with only 4.25% of the world’s population. .... The same holds for Australia, the world’s third largest exporter of fossil fuels after Russia and Saudi Arabia. Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s CoP-26-eve declaration that Australia too would achieve net-zero by 2050 has been met with derision by Australians themselves.
All of the Australia's commitment by 2050 was drowned by the ugly spat between France and Australia.

I have a suggestion for the forum members here. If you run into any MaaGreta Dumberg types, do a derisive :rotfl: (:rotflmao:) and show them their place. Which is below Pakistan. Even Pakistan will soon reach net-zero emissions. It will shut down its electricity grid and put out a begging bowl since $1T might be available.
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Ambar wrote:RJ, HP, WB and KAR is where BJP has taken the maximum hit. RJ which usually swings between INC and BJP saw the incumbent INC comfortably trounce BJP, 18 % for BJP and 38% for INC in vote share is a huge difference. Same in HP, 3 out of 3 for .....
Your trounce word is correct for only three seat if we are speaking of RJ and HP , Both in RJ and HP , total bjp vote percentage decreased because of three seat where the incumbent bjp candidates lost by very very huge margin

In JUBBAL-KOTKHAI HP , thre incumbent bjp candidate got only 2476 seats I.e 4% , independent got 42% vote who got away from bjp and cong got 53% vote. Local anomaly .seat sharing issues among bjp candidates


If we come to RJ Vallabhnagar, bjp candidate got only 11% vote , independent got 24% vote who actually was former bjp MLA , where as cong got 36% vote. So here it's a local anomaly , seat sharing issues among bjp candidates.

And in Dhariawad , the incumbent bjp got a jolt from local tribal communities as they felt cheated in development works , they fielded their own a 26 year lad who won 29% vote , bjp 26% and cong 39%. Again a local anomaly due to development issues.

Because of these 3 seats , total vote percentage came down drastically in both these states.
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vijayk wrote:Bypolls are only little indicators. We can't take that into full confidence.

But we all agree that Petrol and gas cylinder taxes are too high. They affect transportation and cost of goods.

I do support taxes on gas/petrol for both environmental and a scarce resource for us mostly imported but 100-120% taxes on every liter is very burdensome. I hope BJP is more sympathetic to people instead of telling them "suck it up" as some MP ministers are doing.
Absolutely, the alarms bells should have ringed when pricess neared 90 to a litre. But no, they have continued rising unabated and at some places have reached 120.

Same is the case with food inflation, which is like nearly 100-120 per kg for veggies and these is not for exotic variety but your normal beans cauliflower etc.
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Few points:

1. UP polls are still months away. Voters are myopic with short memories. A few goodies and freebies at the right time (anyone recall the tax slab changes in early 2019 in time for GE19?) and 'all is well' only. E.g., petrol price drop to where it was 6 months prior in UP alone 6 days prior to polling. Fully expect to see such cute stunts, else will believe the charges of lotus walas becoming lotus eaters only.

2. None of the bypolls influenced state govt formation, the point at which things get serious enough for dilli durbar to take notice. Like some wise sage said 'water off of a duck's back'. Only.

3. Asom wala lotus under Himanta is a whole different beast. Only. Hindutva + development with equal weightage and delivering on both - the original moditva promise is finding manifestation in Yogi ji's and Himanta da's rule. Or so it seems only. Asom bypoll results are a credit largely to Himanta da and the local cadre. IMVVHO, of course.

4. RJ is in bad shape. If only lotus could drop VRaje even if it means risking margins in the next state polls... sheesh. Yo Raje so sekular, even khattar looks kattar Hindutvawadi in comparison. IMVVHO, of course.

5. States taking credit for central schemes is to be expected only. Q is what is kendra doing about it. Dunno if anything can even be done about it.

6. HP and UKD are in trouble for BJP. And not just from anti incumbency. lotus govts there should have been more pro-H perhaps (Gasp! I said it!) rather than try to take over our shrines (like in UKD). Only. IMVVHO of course.
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Ambar wrote:RJ, HP, WB and KAR is where BJP has taken the maximum hit. RJ which usually swings between INC and BJP saw the incumbent INC comfortably trounce BJP, 18 % for BJP and 38% for INC in vote share is a huge difference. Same in HP, 3 out of 3 for INC which won comfortably in all 3 seats. Assam is unique because you have UPPL which won 2 seats and UPPL has its own cadre and vote base. KAR BJP govt has been on a sticky wicket for 2 full years now, Basvaraj Bommai was just coming to grips with his new role and has now been dealt with a big defeat in his home turf. For his party to lose by 90,000 votes from essentially his seat will have wide repercussions. An already shaky government with four warring factions, there are rumors plenty of many of his MLAs in talks with INC.

As for WB, the less said the better. Just like Delhi while the rest of India may find it baffling why would anyone vote for such incompetent, arrogrant, anti-nationals but the citizens of those states seem to have a different idea and perhaps they know what's best for them.

We have 5 states going to assembly elections in few months time, I hope BJP leadership wakes up from its deep slumber before it is too late.
BJP has also won in TG comfortably, a high profile victory as the candidate was expelled from TRS due to personal rivalry with KCR.
Sorry to continue harping on TG (no one seems to care as its not Rona Dhona :rotfl:).. though there was a lot of candidate charisma, this by poll is indicative of how BJP is growing gradually in strength.. the BJP candidate was the former health minister in TRS cabinet, who is from a left-wing background.. he was #2 in TRS, him and KCR being the two prominent leaders during TG agitation.. during covid he was the only minister who was seen moving around in public and ensuring some services are reaching people.. as he started growing in stature, KCR became insecure and fabricated some charges of corruption (or maybe he was..TBD), humiliated and threw him out of party.. he resigned, joined BJP and contested from his own seat.. this was apparently the costliest by poll in the entire country w/ KCR spending 100s of crores in defeating him as a prestige issue.. TG voters seem to have taken his money and voted for the BJP candidate instead. Agreed having a prominent established leader contest on their ticket helped. But there was a lot going on w/ police abuses, govt machinery misuse, all of which was way beyond 1 person, no matter how established, to fight by himself. BJP cadre are its strength, and they fought very intensely here yet again.
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^ Good points reg TG. E Rajendar has come through spectacularly. MuDi zindabad!

That said, TRS is still favorites for th next statewide polls (as opposed to bypolls). Some things just take time I guess.

Also, in TG, happily, firecrackers are NOT banned in Diwali! Yay!

Even better. here the lotus here is non-woke. No lotus affiiated NGOs filed cases in TG HC reg cracker ban !(yay again!). Further, local lotus and national IT cell knew better than to talk about crackers in TG at all. Whew. Only.

In other news, stock mkts dived a tad. Good thing. Regular minor mkt corrections are better than major market crashes. Market widsom carries over to politics too, perhaps. Bypolls etc are mkt corrections and are anyday better than major crashes only. Lotus remains the best bet for India's secular development goals by far at present. It is what it is. Only.
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^^ Let's see.. 2023 will be very closely fought, I hope KCR doesnt degrade to a Mamata-level and starts attacking BJP cadres by teaming up with Owaisi bros.. BJP leadership shouldn't do anything to demotivate cadre and play w/ regional sentiments, as the issue of "self respect" is still strong among people. Shah & Nadda deserve more credit than we give, they are indirectly responsible for this , from a macro level they seem to be focusing more on states where they think they can do something about, are giving full support to the state BJP president who finally seems to have the house in order.
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chanakyaa wrote:
Unfortunately, people like Sanjay Dixit at JD are a new breed of BJP/Modi haters who run their right wing YouTube channels. This new breed has figured out that they can take high moral ground, take Hindu/sanatan side and bash modi/shah 24x7, because it is good for business. High rating and viewership from all sides. It helps opposition, disgruntled bjp insiders, while helping keep perception of right wing support. I’ve contributed to his channel several times, but no more.

While the by-polls are important, it is theoretically impossible for national leaders to throw their full weight around in every small or off cycle local poll. Local leadership is important. People like Sanjay Dixit who never fought any election do not have any appreciation for that. How much has Sanjay Dixit opened his own record as former IAS to the public? Very knowledgeable person of history but at this point he is suffering from A syndrome which make people believe that just because they are good at one thing, they should opine on everything under the sun.

Opposition know that only hyper nationalists can create a divide between gullible Hindus and that is the only way to break Hindu unity. I expect this to grow bigger and louder up to GE24. Absolute unity of Hindus is hated by everyone — opposition, Bakis, China, East, West, believers, non-believers everyone.
i wouldn't though use as strong terms as 'BJP/Modi-haters'. they/he does appreciate & praise the govt/Modiji wherever its due (vaccinations, other milestones etc), as well as criticize/implore for course-correction where it seems to be needed. here his contention was simple that BJP should be more assertive as that is what apparently fetches it more Hindu votes; not about national leaders to campaign for local elex. reminds me of the opening remark of another popular YTer Abhishek Tiwary y'day on the same topic - "whenever wherever BJP faces losses, its like personal dissapointment for every nationalist. we criticise BJP not because we are its detractors or its ill-wishers, but because we feel its also our personal responsibility to try & prevent its congressification collectively."
i dont think there'd be any nationalist YT channel who'd be only tomtomming about BJP or Modiji. they also differ with them or criticise them on issues often.
afterall, in BJP's words themselves, if a strong opposition is needed in a democracy to give critical feedback & warn for course-correction, i guess a strong support-base also needs to provide critical feedback/outrage for the same? an example of that could be said to be yesterday's repealing of order on namaz in open spaces in Haryana.
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disha wrote: I have a suggestion for the forum members here. If you run into any MaaGreta Dumberg types, do a derisive :rotfl: (:rotflmao:) and show them their place. Which is below Pakistan. Even Pakistan will soon reach net-zero emissions. It will shut down its electricity grid and put out a begging bowl since $1T might be available.
MaaGreta Dumberg was also at COP26 protesting against well everyone. Said the meeting going on inside was not leadership but Greta thunberg type activism is leadership lmao.
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Instead of shooting the messengers, it would be better if BJP & its supporters show more winning results in the future. Those who live in echo chambers will end up like Congress.
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AshishA wrote:
disha wrote: I have a suggestion for the forum members here. If you run into any MaaGreta Dumberg types, do a derisive :rotfl: (:rotflmao:) and show them their place. Which is below Pakistan. Even Pakistan will soon reach net-zero emissions. It will shut down its electricity grid and put out a begging bowl since $1T might be available.
MaaGreta Dumberg was also at COP26 protesting against well everyone. Said the meeting going on inside was not leadership but Greta thunberg type activism is leadership lmao.
Why cant she first promise that Scandinavian countries Per capita emission of Green house gases without the use of Nuclear Power is going to less than Per capita consumption in Nov 21 to Mar 21
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These CC activists run high on woke emotions and very low on reasoning and objectivity. Thats why.
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They may be squeezing a lot from people because of border tensions
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Aditya_V wrote:
AshishA wrote:
MaaGreta Dumberg was also at COP26 protesting against well everyone. Said the meeting going on inside was not leadership but Greta thunberg type activism is leadership lmao.
Why cant she first promise that Scandinavian countries Per capita emission of Green house gases without the use of Nuclear Power is going to less than Per capita consumption in Nov 21 to Mar 21
If Nordics promise to increase their ambient indoor heating temperature to 15 degrees and wear warm clothes indoors, give up Saunas, ban Jacuzzis, eat only locally produced food, not imported steak, chocolates, coffee, tea, etc. That would be real contribution. Everything else is hot air.

Recently there has been a push to classify nuclear power as green after the massive rise in energy and electricity prices.
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The concerted opposition to the spread & influence of the Sanatana Dharma outside and inside India, especially when seen in the light of the dismantling global Hindutwa narrative which has been conceptualized, designed, and test marketed by the amalgamation of the desert cults, commies, and the venomous wokes.

The initial proof of concept trials were test run in India, during shaheenbagh, delhi riots and now the farmer's agitation is constantly morphing, adapting, and cornering the Modi govt, aided and abetted ably by "two pillars of democracy" which have almost hamstrung the Govt.

this is truly Breaking India 2.0



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So finally some small respite....petrol prices have been decreased by Rs. 5 & diesel by Rs.10...glad current admin is taking corrective steps in their course
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