2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 23 Apr 2022 02:34

https://twitter.com/OpIndia_com/status/ ... A1f6g&s=19

Lawyer who helped child rapist Firoz justifies his actions, insinuates ‘Hindus deserve what happened to the 4-year-old victim’

https://t.co/GimcK8Yiwv

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 23 Apr 2022 07:45

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61138859

Ukraine war: Can India feed the world?

Last week, Indian PM Narendra Modi told US President Joe Biden that India was ready to ship food to the rest of the world following supply shocks and rising prices due to the war in Ukraine.

Mr Modi said India had "enough food" for its 1.4 billion people, and it was "ready to supply food stocks to the world from tomorrow" ...

https://youtu.be/TdmUuRELfWI?t=31

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 23 Apr 2022 07:53

Manish_Sharma wrote:Can this be posted in "Economy Thread"?

https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/the-a ... .html?s=09

The anti-Cassandra of our times: How Raghuram Rajan betrays his own sermons
Former RBI governor Raghuram Rajan represents the mindset and the ecosystem that has for the past eight years tried to scuttle India’s growth trajectory at every opportunity

Vasudha Madhogaria
April 22, 2022

The man is a joker in a suit. Gets away with lot of garbage by speaking in American-accented English. Like clockwork, he is sent to India by Americans every two-three months to pontificate on this or that. He is deliberately being kept alive in public memory in preparation for him becoming FM in any non-BJP govt in future. He is White Man's candidate.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Apr 2022 08:10

sanjayc wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:Can this be posted in "Economy Thread"?

The man is a joker in a suit. Gets away with lot of garbage by speaking in American-accented English. Like clockwork, he is sent to India by Americans every two-three months to pontificate on this or that. He is deliberately being kept alive in public memory in preparation for him becoming FM in any non-BJP govt in future. He is White Man's candidate.

why is this guy commenting so often on India and it's affairs and why is gita gopinath here so often, meeting PM Modi and FM Seetharaman

we have no requirements of aid from the IMF so are these two angling for some job here or what

CV burnishing is the general objective of any desi origin foreign qualified/employed academics or professionals headquartered offshore to survey the availability of openings in Indian govt financial positions

It must hurt the goras, and many other liberandu wokes like these two a great deal, that, in spite of very strong global headwinds, PM Modi and FM Seetharaman are managing the economy well and also the country better than most of the other countries in rest of the world and showing record growth rates to boot

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Apr 2022 08:48

what exactly is nitishwa up to,...........

is he going to shaft the BJP and do an uddhav thackeray in bihar

does he wish to follow in the footsteps of naidu, because that way lies political oblivion

ANI@ANI

Bihar CM Nitish Kumar reaches the residence of former Bihar CM & RJD leader Rabri Devi in Patna for an #iftar party.

6:29 pm · 22 Apr 2022

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 23 Apr 2022 10:51

If you want to understand why jaichand did what he did. Look no further than Naidu, UT, and the politition meeting Lalu.

However, this person has no clue about the nature of the current set of people at the helm of BJP.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 23 Apr 2022 11:22

sanjayc wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:Can this be posted in "Economy Thread"?

The man is a joker in a suit. Gets away with lot of garbage by speaking in American-accented English. Like clockwork, he is sent to India by Americans every two-three months to pontificate on this or that. He is deliberately being kept alive in public memory in preparation for him becoming FM in any non-BJP govt in future. He is White Man's candidate.

https://twitter.com/Nitin_Rivaldo/statu ... x1WDg&s=19

2008 - Raghuram Rajan was the head of financial reforms committee.

He proposed 'interest free' Islamic banks for sections 4 whom interest is Haram.

This was Maunmohan's Ms have the first right over resources in action.

2017 - RBI put curtains on that Sharia bank proposal! https://t.co/TRPPGeLSR2

Imagine an India where 20 cr Ms got interest free loans from banks. Just because interest is haram.

And rest of us had to slog to pay EMI's all our lives.

This would have been indirect Jaziya in action!

No wonder this 'financial Islamist' Rajan is a sickular media darling.

This is how the wily Raghuram Rajan defined his proposal for Islamic banks.

"Certain faiths prohibit the use of financial instruments that pay interest!"

Thank heavens his tenure wasn't renewed by Modi.

A Raghuram Rajan is million times more dangerous than Chhota Rajan! https://t.co/UMKnD1xzTq

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 23 Apr 2022 13:22

To all the Mods/Maulanars/Web Masters
A question:
What are ripple effects/benefits to immediate surroundings, wider geo-political world?? from return of UPA or a Kichadi Govt
Immediate neighbourhood:
1.resumption of talks/trade/counterfeit notes/people-to-people(meaning all and sundry coming to India to make money)contact with Pakistan
2, escape from FATF for Paxatan
3.ongoing Salami Slicing by Chin and maybe even ready to forego Bhutan/Sikkim/AP in the long run
4. Chin colony states in Nepal/SL/Paxtan
5.Unchecked infiltration from BD leading to demographic changes to certain states of India
Within India
1. Anti dharmic govts in most states in the name of secularism
2. Roll back on the Ram temple
3.Fresh appeals in SC on the same issue
4. more stringent laws than Places of Worship act
5,Freebies on every election
6.foregoing control on IPL
7.Folding up of Atmanirbhar Bharat
8.Switch to US/Western and Kichadi equipment's in the forces leading to a logistic nightmare
9.High growth with high inflationary rates
10. return to regular riots/bomb blasts
Wider Geo-Political world
1.Roll back from Look East Policy
2.Sticking to One China and goodbye to Taiwan
3.Folding up of QUAD or even being replaced by UK and QUAD continues without us
4. No more Indo-Pacific but Far East Policy correction by US
5.Roll back from Israeli Co-operation in Military
6. Return to OIC/Palestine bootlicking
7.Larger China-India trade deficits leading to China dictating terms and flooding the market with cheaper goods
8.Chinese involvement in building sensitive networks (Chinese equipment being used)
Is this a correct assumption and what else have I missed more??

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 23 Apr 2022 14:30

Abhi_G wrote:

Shotgun actually trailed in 56 of 106 wards, which shows that BJP should be very serious w.r.t its karyakartas in Bengal. Agnimitra has potential; it has to be appreciated, despite being attacked multiple times by TMC terrorists.

BJP should not ditch the foot soldiers when TMC terrorists maim, rape and murder their families and burn property. There is a spring well of support.

Shotgun gained from the minority dominated wards.

See the photo here; At least two skull caps visible, if not more.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 38203.html

Reporting from ground zero Saar. ....

There is a sense of utter despair about both the BJP's central leadership as well as the local ones. The local ones are clueless
about what the central leadership is up to, and hence they are shying away from the public interaction. People are asking
why, in spite of mounting evidence of irregularities and money laundering by the Mumtaaz Begum's family (read the
good for nothing nephew), there hasn't been much progress made by the CBI and ED. As a result, Mumtaaz has made it a
regular tool to point finger at the center saying that "Center is threatening the state with the central agencies" every time
she takes a pro-people stand. The nephew's right hand man Vinay Mishra, who managed the 2000 crore coal scam on behalf
of the Begum family and her party is sitting in a safe place in the faraway tiny pacific island nation Vanuatu. (How come the
GoI cant get him extradited is a million dollar question.) The nephew's wife holding dual passports is a direct affront to our
constitution and the passport regulation act. On top of it, thousands of crores of Rs have been transferred to London bank accounts, -
yet CBI and ED are helpless. Every time CBI and ED moves some files, and issues summons to the Begum family, Begum travels to
New Delhi with the excuse of demanding funds for the state, and then after meetings with NaMo, AS and Nadda, things calm down.
CBI and ED again go into Kumbhakarna's deep slumber.

The rumors of grapevine says that the central leadership is again putting the state BJP on the sacrificial alter in order to gain
advantage in other places. In hushed tone people say that Mumtaaz contested Goa and garnered 5% vote away from INC to make it
easy for BJP. Perhaps this ploy might work in a few other places also. As a result, Bengal BJP voters are a demoralized lot. many
have decided - "What the heck, let me save my skin, let me either sit out during the local elections or vote for Mumtaaz Begum
to ensure that we would be spared by the party goons".

Tell us Saar, what to do?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Apr 2022 16:19

sanjayc wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:Can this be posted in "Economy Thread"?

The man is a joker in a suit. Gets away with lot of garbage by speaking in American-accented English. Like clockwork, he is sent to India by Americans every two-three months to pontificate on this or that. He is deliberately being kept alive in public memory in preparation for him becoming FM in any non-BJP govt in future. He is White Man's candidate.

Tamil Nadu government said it has created a five-member Economic Advisory Council to advise the Chief Minister This probably happened some months ago

Nobel Prize-winning economist Esther Duflo, former RBI Governor Raghuram Rajan, ex- Chief Economic Adviser to the Government of India Arvind Subramanian, welfare economist Jean Dreze and former Union Finance Secretary and one-time Economic Adviser to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, S Narayan are all in this gang of five.

this gang of five has already breached some of the walls and now, detailed, as well as, sensitive GoI financial data will start to flow to them via the offices of the TN govt

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 23 Apr 2022 21:45

athulya wrote:
Gehlot has gone ahead and demolished a 300 year old Shiva temple in Rajasthan

The BJP on Friday hit out at the Congress for demolishing a 300-year-old Shiva temple in Rajasthan saying that hurting the faith of Hindus is secularism of the grand-old party.

Serves 2 purposes .

a) Political slap on BJP - if you could demolish the door of a mosque in Jehangirpuri , Delhi (which was unauthorized , and Supreme court has put a stay order for 2 weeks)

-- see we've demolished a whole temple , and you cant do crap about it.

b) Since this will also invariably go to the courts , it will do equal equal ( in terms of perception) b/w saffron & green sides & feed the god complex in our judicial system.

This move ( tit for tat w.r.t Bulldozing ) would have been gamed , especially since BJP has taken out the bulldozer from UP and now is a country wide phenomenon ( with endorsement from Boris lol) . I hope this has been gamed.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... -22-771393

Alwar municipality is run by BaJaPa, the demolition drive was approved by the municipal administration twice - once when BJP was in power in the state and now when INC is in power. The difference between INC and BJP is that the later does not even understand what is its identity and what does it want other than copious amounts of money for its legislators and corporators. Imagine, a compound wall of a illegal mosque is demolished and thousands hit the street, supreme court agrees to hear the case and puts a stay order within 8 hrs of the incident and MPs and MLAs from opposition parties lands at the site of the demolition. In RJ, a 300 yr old temple is demolished in a city ruled by BJP, idols of gods and goddesses come crashing down and all that BJP can do is shrug its shoulders and issue a press statement or two.

This isn't just about the temples, remember the Kathua or Hathras rape cases where hysteria was whipped up, the opposition and media went nuclear against the BJP administration and nearly started a nation wide riots and protests, well, since then there have been multiple rapes and murders of tribal and scheduled caste girls in Rajasthan, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand etc. what stops BJP from doing what INC/AAP and others do ? Its a lack of political acumen, lack of interest, identity crisis and not understanding how administration is temporary but ecosystem is permanent.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 23 Apr 2022 21:49

chetak wrote:what exactly is nitishwa up to,...........

is he going to shaft the BJP and do an uddhav thackeray in bihar

does he wish to follow in the footsteps of naidu, because that way lies political oblivion

He has been shafting BJP for over 17 yrs now so what's new ? It is only a matter of time that he swallows the poison pill and joins RJD, i don't see the current Bihar govt lasting until end of the year. PK's recent meeting with Nitish may well be for this very reason. Ofcourse, when Nitish goes with RJD again it will be curtains for him politically both at the state and the center level, but he is the very manifestation of the saying "cut nose to spite the face".

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 23 Apr 2022 23:56

Kati wrote:
Abhi_G wrote:

Shotgun actually trailed in 56 of 106 wards, which shows that BJP should be very serious w.r.t its karyakartas in Bengal. Agnimitra has potential; it has to be appreciated, despite being attacked multiple times by TMC terrorists.

BJP should not ditch the foot soldiers when TMC terrorists maim, rape and murder their families and burn property. There is a spring well of support.

Shotgun gained from the minority dominated wards.

See the photo here; At least two skull caps visible, if not more.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 38203.html
Reporting from ground zero Saar. ....

There is a sense of utter despair about both the BJP's central leadership as well as the local ones. The local ones are clueless
about what the central leadership is up to, and hence they are shying away from the public interaction. People are asking
why, in spite of mounting evidence of irregularities and money laundering by the Mumtaaz Begum's family (read the
good for nothing nephew), there hasn't been much progress made by the CBI and ED. As a result, Mumtaaz has made it a
regular tool to point finger at the center saying that "Center is threatening the state with the central agencies" every time
she takes a pro-people stand. The nephew's right hand man Vinay Mishra, who managed the 2000 crore coal scam on behalf
of the Begum family and her party is sitting in a safe place in the faraway tiny pacific island nation Vanuatu. (How come the
GoI cant get him extradited is a million dollar question.) The nephew's wife holding dual passports is a direct affront to our
constitution and the passport regulation act. On top of it, thousands of crores of Rs have been transferred to London bank accounts, -
yet CBI and ED are helpless. Every time CBI and ED moves some files, and issues summons to the Begum family, Begum travels to
New Delhi with the excuse of demanding funds for the state, and then after meetings with NaMo, AS and Nadda, things calm down.
CBI and ED again go into Kumbhakarna's deep slumber.

The rumors of grapevine says that the central leadership is again putting the state BJP on the sacrificial alter in order to gain
advantage in other places. In hushed tone people say that Mumtaaz contested Goa and garnered 5% vote away from INC to make it
easy for BJP. Perhaps this ploy might work in a few other places also. As a result, Bengal BJP voters are a demoralized lot. many
have decided - "What the heck, let me save my skin, let me either sit out during the local elections or vote for Mumtaaz Begum
to ensure that we would be spared by the party goons".

Tell us Saar, what to do?

Kati saar,
what all you are saying are based on conjectures and buildup to demoralize the whatever karyakartas are left of the BJP in Bengal. It is also followed to a lesser extent by the Lutyens media. It goes with a simple explanation that the permission for CBI was withdrawn by Mamata if my memory serves me right. So CBI can't willy nilly file cases and do investigation. ED can slap cases but those cases will need to be heard. Seeing how the courts have behaved on Bengal violence itself i don't have much faith yet.
BJP central leadership is complicit in its silence over the violence in post poll Bengal. But I am also of the opinion that Modi and Shah shouldn't be doing everyday fight of Bengal. It has to be taken up by local leaders of BJP.

1. We keep forgetting that even the local leaders were found wanting in Bengal in the past as was discussed here multiple times. The lack of co-ordination between Gosh and even Rupa Ganguly was brought out with some explanation in the past.
2.the other only reason people keep harping about BJP prospects in Bengal is the seats for Loksabha that were won in 2019. take that out of the equation and you will find BJP as a party is same now as it was supposed to be with organic growth, give or take a few seats.
3. Some of the seats that BJP won in 2019 also was based on votes of left cadres who didn't go with them for the state elections.

The BJP has work cutout for it in the future and it has to be around building the cadre around the local Bengal leadership which was changed after the Bengal elections. We need to see what Suvendu Adhikari does, its been a year and half only and there will be some local tussle of the newer and older BJP leaders. maybe if Bengal collapses then we are looking at some other changes in the future.

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 24 Apr 2022 00:16

Ambar wrote:
athulya wrote:

Serves 2 purposes .

a) Political slap on BJP - if you could demolish the door of a mosque in Jehangirpuri , Delhi (which was unauthorized , and Supreme court has put a stay order for 2 weeks)

-- see we've demolished a whole temple , and you cant do crap about it.

b) Since this will also invariably go to the courts , it will do equal equal ( in terms of perception) b/w saffron & green sides & feed the god complex in our judicial system.

This move ( tit for tat w.r.t Bulldozing ) would have been gamed , especially since BJP has taken out the bulldozer from UP and now is a country wide phenomenon ( with endorsement from Boris lol) . I hope this has been gamed.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... -22-771393
Alwar municipality is run by BaJaPa, the demolition drive was approved by the municipal administration twice - once when BJP was in power in the state and now when INC is in power. The difference between INC and BJP is that the later does not even understand what is its identity and what does it want other than copious amounts of money for its legislators and corporators. Imagine, a compound wall of a illegal mosque is demolished and thousands hit the street, supreme court agrees to hear the case and puts a stay order within 8 hrs of the incident and MPs and MLAs from opposition parties lands at the site of the demolition. In RJ, a 300 yr old temple is demolished in a city ruled by BJP, idols of gods and goddesses come crashing down and all that BJP can do is shrug its shoulders and issue a press statement or two.

This isn't just about the temples, remember the Kathua or Hathras rape cases where hysteria was whipped up, the opposition and media went nuclear against the BJP administration and nearly started a nation wide riots and protests, well, since then there have been multiple rapes and murders of tribal and scheduled caste girls in Rajasthan, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand etc. what stops BJP from doing what INC/AAP and others do ? Its a lack of political acumen, lack of interest, identity crisis and not understanding how administration is temporary but ecosystem is permanent.

Ambar Saar,
Approving demolition drive is not the same as destroying a 300 year old temple. It could also mean demolishing other illegal structures which are not the temple. I will leave the comments on the "Honorable Supreme Court" lest the forum itself invite trouble on frivolous grounds.
But its there for everyone to see where normal petitioners takes days or sometimes years to get their case listed the one for demolition of illegal structures got listed and also got stay orders in double quick time.

Building an organic eco-system takes time. The current eco-system also was built assiduously since independence and the left takeover since the 60's. that is a good six decades atleast of well polished and well oiled. Some raids by Ed and some rule changes on NGO licensing and cases filed after a thorough investigation and there are cracks in the system as can be seen with the loud wailing over certain issues.

The complaint is that BJP doesn't build any system. You cannot just rush in to make your eco-system lest you will end up making the same as current eco-system with the other side of the coin. The absolute lack of patience of the supporters of the govt baffles me as well. It follows the same principle that you need 9 months for a woman to give birth to a baby and having 9 one month pregnant mother will not give a baby in a month.

It is easier to just frame laws and ensure their application for effective dismantling of the current eco-system.to give an example If instead of trying to cram the JNU with ABVP and match the physical violence, you change the rules where you ask people to graduate in a stipulated time and change the criteria for professors accepting students under him ( I believe there are professors with double digit students pursuing PHD's in social sciences on Sarkari money) that in itself will first take the wind out of the sails and then you slowly tighten the screws.

People here always give the example of China (as flawed as it is) of long term goals and how they are focused on it. The current supporters of the govt also need to work with same intentions and put pressure on the govt and bring their request to the fore instead of lamenting all the time. Support in constant elections will show the eco-system and the courts as to where the country stands and the changes will come in gradually there as well. The Ayodhya Ram Janma Bhoomi case verdict would not be the same without the 2019 election results. So Hindus need to make sure that their interests and that of India in general are not sacrificed at the alter of fake/pseudo secular ideals and constantly work towards that goal rather than Modi didn't bring UCC or free temples. First you crush the opposition parties in elections and then you crush the funders of the same parties after having neutered the head of the snake with people also getting mobilized and culturally more aware.

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 24 Apr 2022 00:50

@kati... Bhajapa seems to be banking on weak memories of hindus, who will again come back in droves to them in the 2024 GE, according to their calculations. TINA effect

God knows, when we will learn to have better institutional memory as a society for our own good.

athulya · Post by **athulya** » 24 Apr 2022 01:16

Ambar wrote:
athulya wrote:

Serves 2 purposes .

a) Political slap on BJP - if you could demolish the door of a mosque in Jehangirpuri , Delhi (which was unauthorized , and Supreme court has put a stay order for 2 weeks)

-- see we've demolished a whole temple , and you cant do crap about it.

b) Since this will also invariably go to the courts , it will do equal equal ( in terms of perception) b/w saffron & green sides & feed the god complex in our judicial system.

This move ( tit for tat w.r.t Bulldozing ) would have been gamed , especially since BJP has taken out the bulldozer from UP and now is a country wide phenomenon ( with endorsement from Boris lol) . I hope this has been gamed.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... -22-771393
Alwar municipality is run by BaJaPa, the demolition drive was approved by the municipal administration twice - once when BJP was in power in the state and now when INC is in power. The difference between INC and BJP is that the later does not even understand what is its identity and what does it want other than copious amounts of money for its legislators and corporators. Imagine, a compound wall of a illegal mosque is demolished and thousands hit the street, supreme court agrees to hear the case and puts a stay order within 8 hrs of the incident and MPs and MLAs from opposition parties lands at the site of the demolition. In RJ, a 300 yr old temple is demolished in a city ruled by BJP, idols of gods and goddesses come crashing down and all that BJP can do is shrug its shoulders and issue a press statement or two.

This isn't just about the temples, remember the Kathua or Hathras rape cases where hysteria was whipped up, the opposition and media went nuclear against the BJP administration and nearly started a nation wide riots and protests, well, since then there have been multiple rapes and murders of tribal and scheduled caste girls in Rajasthan, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand etc. what stops BJP from doing what INC/AAP and others do ? Its a lack of political acumen, lack of interest, identity crisis and not understanding how administration is temporary but ecosystem is permanent.

Sir , please peruse this thread when u find time , it provides a little more detail with documents etc.

The 'prastav' from BJP municipality was to reduce the proposed road from 60ft to 30 ft , but the police under DM/(S)DM demolished everything (60ft)
https://twitter.com/Infinity_Tarun/stat ... 8604002305

athulya · Post by **athulya** » 24 Apr 2022 01:58

Nannumal Pahadia IAS, who had ordered demolition of 300 yr old Lord Shiva temple in Alwar (Rajasthan) has been arrested for taking a bribe of Rs 5 lakh. Meena was posted as District Collector of #Alwar till April 21,2022 & was transferred to Jaipur.
According to ACB Rajasthan, Meena was held following the arrest Ashok Sankhla RAS, the settlement officer-cum-revenue appellate authority & his broker Nitin Sharma while allegedly accepting a bribe of ₹5 lakh.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/j ... 74514.html

In other words , Gehlot used him , got him transferred him from Alwar to Jaipur and then this dude takes a bribe in his new office a week after demolishing a temple ?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 24 Apr 2022 03:06

Ambar wrote:
Alwar municipality is run by BaJaPa, the demolition drive was approved by the municipal administration twice - once when BJP was in power in the state and now when INC is in power. The difference between INC and BJP is that the later does not even understand what is its identity and what does it want other than copious amounts of money for its legislators and corporators. Imagine, a compound wall of a illegal mosque is demolished and thousands hit the street, supreme court agrees to hear the case and puts a stay order within 8 hrs of the incident and MPs and MLAs from opposition parties lands at the site of the demolition. In RJ, a 300 yr old temple is demolished in a city ruled by BJP, idols of gods and goddesses come crashing down and all that BJP can do is shrug its shoulders and issue a press statement or two.

Please read this thread:
https://twitter.com/Infinity_Tarun/stat ... xE1zQ&s=19

@Infinity_Tarun:

Yesterday a temple was demolished at Rajgarh Rajasthan
Congress is saying since there is BJP board in municipal so it was demolished by BJP

BJP saying since there is govt of Congress in state so it was demolished by Congress

Who actually demolished it. Let's find out https://t.co/V6bICdVgaG

Yesterday first BJP's Amit Malviya tweeted n blamed Congress
Then from Congress side Pratap Singh gave bite n accused BJP
There a newspaper cutting of kirodi meena was viral where it was mentioned that it was bjp mistake
N then Aaj tak clip was being spread by Congress https://t.co/Ptdl1bTbV8

What is the current system?

Municipal corporation of city prepare the plan for the development for city
But municipal doesn't have any execution power so they request state govt to execute it

From state govt side DM, SDM, Municipal Commissioner, Police execute the plan

So the suspence ends here. It was demolished by Congress govt coz execution is their responsibility

Now question is whether BJP board requested it or not ?

There is a station road in Rajgarh. In Nov 2021, Plan was presented to widen the road till 60 feets.

The current width of road is 26-28 feets. But in Feb one more meeting occurred n plan was revised n width of road reduced to 30 feet.
Since there is already 28 feet road
On 12th April, BJP board requested to demolish only 2 feet area.
1 feet from both side.
So BJP requested

To Congress State govt to demolish only 1-2 feet
1 feet distence is ur wrist to ur elbow that's all
But in place of demolishing 2 feet, congress govt demolished 32 feet road
That means they were supposed to widen 28 to 30 feet
But they did 28 to 60 feet https://t.co/0uG8EBomvm

So BJP board was not at all responsible for this demolition. It's 100% Congress State govt.
Why Congress did it ?

N here comes the entry of Congress MLA Jauhri Lal Meena.
A video is viral in which he is saying

बोए पेड़ बबूल का तो नीम कहा से होए https://t.co/0LLCYj2yEb

Means he is saying to public
U voted to BJP in municipal elections now bear it
N he is saying to bjp board either change ur party n join congress n i will stop demolition or face the consequences https://t.co/MIFCOPrPp9

Even local people also confirmed it. So it was congress MLA who drove this demolition

There is heritage act in Rajasthan
Which says without permission of police u can't demolish old structure

So even BJP had said it, they cud not demolished it https://t.co/6HgJexw06j

So the entire story was
BJP said - demolish 2 feet n never said demolish temple
Congress demolished 32 feet
N blamed to bjp that they asked to demolish
That's the whole story
They locked all people in home n demolished on Sunday on 17th April https://t.co/JWLrnPMEWM

Intresting is DM who joined on 18th April, 1 day later of demolition is saying yes BJP said it to demolish I listened it.
Seems like he spoke as per pre given script https://t.co/8NzQgATygn

N one more thing on 22nd March
A case of rape with minor was filed against same MLA
N local people say he was angry on it also. https://t.co/CCCpoZX9kb

When u love to some leader or party
Or when u hate to some leader or party
Then u miss the truth.
Always love to truth n stand with truth.

This case proved how powerful is congress ecosystem n how weak is BJP counter system.

Correction
In tweet no 15
Case of gang rape was filed against son of mla not mla

This is interesting. I was not aware abt it
They demolished everything - 3 temples, 85 buildings except 1 shop
........ Jakir Khan matters
Thx @PolyMath_ADD for sharing video https://t.co/9UTFR9HuSD

Complaint filed for demolition of 300 year old temple at Rajgarh

Who filed the complainant: Pujari of temple Mahant Prakash Das n Brajbhoomi Vikas Parishad

Whose name he mentioned as main accused: Congress MLA, SDM, EO

Anyone need more evidence that it was Congress behind it ? https://t.co/qXPWI45wGa

Abhi_G · Post by **Abhi_G** » 24 Apr 2022 03:45

@Rudradev: Always a pleasure to read and learn from your posts. Thank you for your empathy for the Bengal cause.

I knew what Kanchan Gupta would be talking about; but at the end of the program, I felt numb; Gupta did not or could not have shared any sensitive political strategy for Bengal, given his position; but there was a stark warning in his words about not to let any other state fall off the slippery slope. It was poignant when he said Bengali Hindu refugees including his ancestors were designated as 'Permanent Liability' by JLN Govt., so much humiliation and degradation. Punjab suffered from the partition as well, but the refugees were settled much better. Fast forward to S S Ray and his murderous regime maiming and raping young people; Jyoti Bose's bloodied hand in the Marichjhapi massacre and Bijan Setu burning of Anand Marg monks. I was sometime going to point out that Vivek Agnihotri's depiction of the mother being fed blood soaked rice by the Muslim terrorists, actually happened not far away from our house in Burdwan - the mother was fed blood soaked rice of the sons killed by CPM terrorists. This was the Sainbari massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainbari_murder

It is numbing and there is no more to react.

Kati Saar, as Venkat ji has rightly said Bengal BJP leadership has to figure out; but I feel you do have a point. The BJP has a bigger goal to secure at the national level; so it is my gut feeling that they have tested the waters in Bengal and they do not feel confident due to various reasons. So do not expect much from them. The tragic thing here is that once again the karyakartas who stuck their neck out in the woods as ideological supporters would suddenly find not even a grass to lean on; just like the BJP guy who posted on SM begging for help during the 2021 post poll violence, when the TMC terrorists tortured and killed his pet dog before lynching him. Terrorists' cruelty on animals and vulnerable children, women and men will lead to the final solution - someday death will catch them when least expected.

I won't end on a pessimistic note here; because this shall also pass, but the price paid will be big.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Apr 2022 04:50

how can we, a desert cult, be left behind.......and this entitled "ambassador" far exceeds his diplomatic fiat, pun intended

and not a single word about majority rights of civilizational Indians

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 24 Apr 2022 04:57

^^ Why would he say anything for Hindus? That’s not his prerogative.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Apr 2022 05:01

vimal wrote:^^ Why would he say anything for Hindus? That’s not his prerogative.

opening his entitled gora mouth in public is not his prerogative either, especially on matters concerning India's internal issues.

the suspicious and yet the convenient timing says this is also a part of the anti putin redux being pushed by the west against India, and moreover, these guys are greatly upset with russia because none from their sect has ever been welcomed in russia

and what happened to the minority jewish rights in nazi germany, where these same guys openly helped a catholic hitler and his genocidal ilk to gas, cull, and exterminate the jews

Hitler was baptised as a catholic in the same year he was born, 1889 and raised as a catholic

Published in 1925 and 1926, “Mein Kampf” includes a plethora of religious statements. For example, on page 46, Hitler wrote, “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.” On page 65, he wrote: “I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Almighty Creator. By fighting the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.”

Kim might argue that 1925 was part of Hitler’s “youth.” Well, how about 1941 when he told Gerhard Engel, “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” Surely 1941 was not part of Hitler’s youth. The Nazi uniform belt buckle included the words “Gott mit uns” or “God is with us.”

Hitler's Pope is a book published in 1999 by the British journalist and author John Cornwell that examines the actions of Eugenio Pacelli, who became Pope Pius XII, before and during the Nazi era, and explores the charge that he assisted in the legitimization of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany, through the pursuit of a Reichskonkordat in 1933. The book is critical of Pius' conduct during the Second World War, arguing that he did not do enough, or speak out enough, against the Holocaust. Cornwell argues that Pius's entire career as the nuncio to Germany, Cardinal Secretary of State, and Pope, was characterized by a desire to increase and centralize the power of the Papacy, and that he subordinated opposition to the Nazis to that goal. He further argues that Pius was antisemitic and that this stance prevented him from caring about the European Jews.

via wiki

why is it that only the Hindus are being tasked to face the burden of a minority dictated faux, discriminatory, and unequal secularism in India.

after tens of centuries of attacks, discrimination, genocides and inquisitions, the majority are still being side lined in India as also globally by the abrahamics.

हमारा टर्न कब आयेगा, to live in peace

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 24 Apr 2022 07:37

chetak wrote:how can we, a desert cult, be left behind.......and this entitled "ambassador" far exceeds his diplomatic fiat, pun intended

and not a single word about majority rights of civilizational Indians

Indian govt. should tell these dishonest charlatans, peddling a vicious ideology of hate for rest of humanity who are not part of their club, to be more vocal about the right of non-believers.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Apr 2022 13:53

Manish_Sharma wrote:Can this be posted in "Economy Thread"?

https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/the-a ... .html?s=09

The anti-Cassandra of our times: How Raghuram Rajan betrays his own sermons
Former RBI governor Raghuram Rajan represents the mindset and the ecosystem that has for the past eight years tried to scuttle India’s growth trajectory at every opportunity

Vasudha Madhogaria
April 22, 2022

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Apr 2022 22:07

aapis and their lies

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 25 Apr 2022 02:32

There are certain things that help to make mind of some Indian. Never belive an Indian who shaved his moustaches to fit the western crowd. I this my intuition. My personal experience. Till now it has 100 record.. No offence to anyone.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Apr 2022 06:43

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Apr 2022 08:05

Isn't history based on the bricks of facts?
How it is arranged is the architect or historian's task.
Romila Thapar arranges the facts to paint a dreary architecture.
#Hindutva is Indian Nationalism with Hindu characteristics.

Xi Jin Ping is creating Marxism with Sinic Characteristics.
Only fossilized #Gungadin like Romila Thapar still carry on Maxmueller's water.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Apr 2022 08:06

If as RT says India's support for Russia is old-line Nehruvian stance, why is the US wanting regime change in Delhi?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Apr 2022 08:07

The other RT writes!

https://www.rt.com/news/553261-india-ba ... -conflict/

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Apr 2022 09:18

romila thapar is a physicist masquerading as a historian. She has fraudulently bent space & time (history) at her will and places characters, facts & incidents based on her discretion.

edited to remove the already posted image

Apologies for the duplicate post

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 25 Apr 2022 09:52

rsingh wrote:There are certain things that help to make mind of some Indian. Never belive an Indian who shaved his moustaches to fit the western crowd. I this my intuition. My personal experience. Till now it has 100 record.. No offence to anyone.

Arrey ..Shri Krishna and Shri Rama ignored the memo on moustaches as per.most temples. So did Gautam Buddha.statues.
Ajanta frescoes don't always draw meesha iirc.
Customs keep changing

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 25 Apr 2022 09:56

^^ Romila Thapar is a part of Indian champagne communists gang who wage war to save the world while swilling whiskey in five-star hotels or pubs in universities in Western Europe. (They avoid communist countries like plague.)

Last time I went to Indian Accent to have lunch (at company expense), they refused me entry, saying they have a three-day waiting list. That is a great place for JNU professors to wage war against poverty and other ills facing India.

Kanoji · Post by **Kanoji** » 25 Apr 2022 10:24

chetak wrote:

History is study of the past based on facts.

The title of this FT article says it all. The very mention that "we have another" in the title, says that the history she has been championing and writing all these years is based on fantasy and "made up facts" pulled out of thin air.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 25 Apr 2022 10:41

sanjayc wrote:^^ Romila Thapar is a part of Indian champagne communists gang who wage war to save the world while swilling whiskey in five-star hotels or pubs in universities in Western Europe. (They avoid communist countries like plague.)

Last time I went to Indian Accent to have lunch (at company expense), they refused me entry, saying they have a three-day waiting list. That is a great place for JNU professors to wage war against poverty and other ills facing India.

Romilla thapar is grand daughter of Kunj behari thapar. They were have been rectum lickers of brishit.

https://hindupost.in/politics/unveiling ... scendants/

Remember the brutal Jaliyanwallah Bagh massacre, the monstrous act of General Dyer? Even the arch-imperialist Winston Churchill condemned it as a “monstrous event, an event which stood in singular and sinister isolation”. But, General Dyer and Michael O’Dwyer (who was subsequently shot by Udham Singh) had admirers in Bharat as well. The prominent name in the list was none other than Dewan Bahadur Kunj Behari Thapar of Lahore.

Karan Thapar belongs to the Thapar clan, which was among the elite of undivided Punjab and then New Delhi, with connections to the Nehru-Gandhi family for decades. Karan Thapar’s paternal grandfather was Diwan Bahadur Kunj Behari Thapar. He belonged to a section of the Punjabi elite that came into new wealth as commission agents for the colonial British Indian Army.

Kunj Behari Thapar was also one of four people, including Umar Hayat Khan, Chaudhary Gajjan Singh and Rai Bahadur Lal Chand, who donated Rs 1.75 lakh to the fund of Punjab governor Sir Michael O’Dwyer — the man who backed the actions of Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer during the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. For his loyalty to the British, Karan Thapar’s grand father, Kunj Behari Thapar was also awarded the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire in 1920.

Karan Thapar’s mother is Bimla Bashiram, sister of Gautam Sahgal, whose wife Nayantara Sahgal was the daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit and niece of Jawaharlal Nehru. Thus, Karan Thapar’s aunt is Nayantara Sahgal (now infamous for being the first of the award wapsi gang). Nayantara Sahgal got divorced from Gautam Sahgal in 1967. But the relations between the Thapar family and the Nehru dynasty still remains strong today.

Due to the family connection, Chacha Nehru, against advice by General Thimaya, promoted Karan Thapar’s father, General Pran Nath Thapar as Chief of Army Staff of the Indian Army ahead of two generals that were senior to him. Thapar took over in 1961 and served until 19 November 1962.

He was the only Indian Army chief in history to lose a war, against China in 1962, forcing him to resign in disgrace in November that year. Anyone that was disgraced in such a fashion would have been relegated to the dustbin of history. However, due to his Nehru family connection, he was allowed to serve as the Indian ambassador to Afghanistan from 1964 until 1969.

Karan Thapar’s cousin, Romila_Thapar worked as Professor of Ancient Indian History at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. Known for her extreme left-leaning views, she has derided Hinduism at every given opportunity under the premise of “exposing ancient truths”. She is an advocate of whitewashing the horrors of Islamic invasions and the Mughal rule in India. She proposed to dismiss the fact that India had a Golden age has always downplayed the achievements of the great Indian kingdoms: Maurya, Gupta, Chalukya, Rashtrakutas, Cholas, Chandelas, Vijayanagar kingdoms, etc as they hurt her disgust for anything that can give rise to national pride in Indians. She wants to de-emphasize such portions of history in the name of opposing Hindutva etc, as if she is some kind of final judgment on what is counted as history and what is not.

Karan Thapar’s other cousin, Romesh Thapar (born in Lahore) was a famous loony liberal writer and commentator and belonged to the Communist party of India. As is typical of Indian communists, he lived a comfortable life in his upmarket flat (in the Breach Candy neighborhood in Mumbai), but churned out pages and pages of communist material for magazines. Always proud of calling himself a friend of freedom, he vigorously applauded the discipline and efficiency of family chum Indira Gandhi’s emergency period of dictatorship and appreciated that many communist agendas, such as forcible and irreversible birth control operations to limit population growth, were enforced. He died in 1987.

Karan Thapar was a classmate of Benazir Bhutto at Oxford University and maintained very cordial relations with her until her death and still maintains a close relationship with her husband, Asif Ali Zardari.

In 2017, Karan Thapar wrote an article named "The mysterious of Mr. Jadhav" in regard to death sentence given to Mr Kulbhushan Yadav, an alleged Indian spy who was imprisoned in Pakistan. This article embarrassed India Internationally. But Mr. Thapar, a self-serving, life-long admirer of Pakistan has never been one to shy away from embarrassing India in any way he can so as to build up his profile as a great Jeremy Paxman-like figure.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 25 Apr 2022 14:29

Yayavar wrote:
rsingh wrote:There are certain things that help to make mind of some Indian. Never belive an Indian who shaved his moustaches to fit the western crowd. I this my intuition. My personal experience. Till now it has 100 record.. No offence to anyone.
Arrey ..Shri Krishna and Shri Rama ignored the memo on moustaches as per.most temples. So did Gautam Buddha.statues.
Ajanta frescoes don't always draw meesha iirc.
Customs keep changing

Those were good old time. My imind s very selective.
In one stroke I removed all pissfuuls. What a masterstroke. Then am followers of people like Maharana Partap, Shivji Prathvi,Bhagat Singh Modi,jaishankar etc. Not Amir Saha or Davol. Non of Haryana CM. They were all corrupt to the bone. Heck I have more respect for Takait. He showed he has guts. This man wS supposed to be on BJP side. He was leftout. Such people are to be spotted earlier and groomed to work for the good of country. There are always exceptionsI know this.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Apr 2022 15:30

watch in full, it is unbelievable

you will not believe the machinations of various politicos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9iO0wOX65I

Page Turners with Sugata Srinivasraju

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 26 Apr 2022 01:43

chetak wrote: CV burnishing is the general objective of any desi origin foreign qualified/employed academics or professionals headquartered offshore to survey the availability of openings in Indian govt financial positions

chetak gaaru,

CV burnishing and networking are par for the course and are not inherently wrong (speaking for myself, of course). That is how one gets ahead in the job or in business.

I object only when people use their network to advance their own agendas or foreign agendas at the cost of India and Indians. Dr. RR has already shown that he is not to be trusted. I doubt he will get anywhere with Modi/BJP govt. Dr. G. Gopinath on the other hand is still under observation, IMHO.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 26 Apr 2022 04:16

ramana wrote:Isn't history based on the bricks of facts?
How it is arranged is the architect or historian's task.
Romila Thapar arranges the facts to paint a dreary architecture.
#Hindutva is Indian Nationalism with Hindu characteristics.

Xi Jin Ping is creating Marxism with Sinic Characteristics.
Only fossilized #Gungadin like Romila Thapar still carry on Maxmueller's water.

This Thapar family is a disgrace to our civilization they are only second to the Nehru-Gandhi clan

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 26 Apr 2022 06:28

rsingh wrote:There are certain things that help to make mind of some Indian. Never belive an Indian who shaved his moustaches to fit the western crowd. I this my intuition. My personal experience. Till now it has 100 record.. No offence to anyone.

ye kambakht moochmundey....Utpal Dutt (aka Bhavani Shankar, of Golmaal fame) would be proud of you.