2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Jun 2022 23:32

is it because vaze turned approver and this is the effect.......

BTW,

japan has threatened to stop further investment in the state and also shown her willingness to move their units out of maharashtra.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 03 Jun 2022 02:06

Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?

Edit: I need to know because a lot of BiF folks are claiming that he is responsible for caste discrimination as he is a Brahmin.

titash · Post by **titash** » 03 Jun 2022 02:18

vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?

Of all places, BR folks should stay away from these questions - no?

The moment we go down the Sikh vs. Brahmin vs. OBC vs Dalit route, we undermine the Dharmic rejuvenation

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 03 Jun 2022 02:23

Agreed, what is the value of such knowledge?

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 03 Jun 2022 02:27

Orey naadu's 75 series is an amazing attempt by TN BJP. There are 75 episodes each one of them focussing on one great personality from Tamil Nadu with Annamalai narrating it through. The first episode is about Veerapandya Kattaboman. would be great if every state does this, there is so much to learn about our heroes.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 03 Jun 2022 02:34

Rudradev wrote:Agreed, what is the value of such knowledge?

Edited my post. Need to respond to some cryptos.

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 03 Jun 2022 03:02

vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?

Happy to answer the question. As far as I know Sundar Pichai is an ayyangar (dravida brahman) by jati.

titash wrote: Of all places, BR folks should stay away from these questions - no?

The moment we go down the Sikh vs. Brahmin vs. OBC vs Dalit route, we undermine the Dharmic rejuvenation

Jati ("caste" in western parlance) is an integral part of Bharatiya culture and identity. It indicates a certain community, biological lineage, and customs whatever they may be. That is what makes the sum total of Bharat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Not only that, "caste" is officially recognized by the government. So anyone has the right to discuss the topic or to know the "caste" of someone, with no justification needed.

India is not a melting pot/mixing bowl culture like New World countries. The past matters to us as much as the present and the future. This is a part of "dharmic rejuvenation" and not undermining it.

Discrimination by "caste" must be eradicated by bringing enlightenment to society, but trying to induce an artificial "all castes are the same" or "don't ask about caste" atmosphere will be counterproductive. This is like saying, "all Indians have same DNA", "all religions are same", "the world is one", etc. Foolish utopian ideas that do not reflect reality.

It is interesting that we on BRF frequently complain about the "deracinated" or "woke" Indian but some of us suffer from the same problem when talking about jati.

Why not we be proud of our own jati as well as those of every other Indian ? That is the Indian ethos. Not some kind of mixed up/"no name"/"no background" society.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 03 Jun 2022 04:28

Yes. If it weren’t for the so called low castes, India would be Turkic or Farsi speaking. They held firm in their beliefs over the centuries. Heroes all.

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 03 Jun 2022 08:52

vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?

Edit: I need to know because a lot of BiF folks are claiming that he is responsible for caste discrimination as he is a Brahmin.

Vimalji -

There seems to be some drama around Google because a BIF gang wanted to have a dalit conference ( 3-4 weeks back iirc , there has been a concerted effort to paint technology companies like cisco, amazon, google etc in the same light ) . It was fended off by dharmic people. Eventually BIF gang lost face. Rhona dhona by the BIF gang increased ...so anyone associated with google is guilty and must be because of caste association ( forget any other rational thought )

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 03 Jun 2022 09:02

KL Dubey wrote:
vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?
Happy to answer the question. As far as I know Sundar Pichai is an ayyangar (dravida brahman) by jati.

titash wrote: Of all places, BR folks should stay away from these questions - no?

The moment we go down the Sikh vs. Brahmin vs. OBC vs Dalit route, we undermine the Dharmic rejuvenation
Jati ("caste" in western parlance) is an integral part of Bharatiya culture and identity. It indicates a certain community, biological lineage, and customs whatever they may be. That is what makes the sum total of Bharat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Not only that, "caste" is officially recognized by the government. So anyone has the right to discuss the topic or to know the "caste" of someone, with no justification needed.

India is not a melting pot/mixing bowl culture like New World countries. The past matters to us as much as the present and the future. This is a part of "dharmic rejuvenation" and not undermining it.

Discrimination by "caste" must be eradicated by bringing enlightenment to society, but trying to induce an artificial "all castes are the same" or "don't ask about caste" atmosphere will be counterproductive. This is like saying, "all Indians have same DNA", "all religions are same", "the world is one", etc. Foolish utopian ideas that do not reflect reality.

It is interesting that we on BRF frequently complain about the "deracinated" or "woke" Indian but some of us suffer from the same problem when talking about jati.

Why not we be proud of our own jati as well as those of every other Indian ? That is the Indian ethos. Not some kind of mixed up/"no name"/"no background" society.

KLDji - it might not be general wokeness... but also the hatred for the word caste as much as GOI accommodates it.

We should allow the word "caste" to die as it was introduced by Portuguese ancestry, given meaning by britshits to create fault lines , weaponized by abrahamics for soul harvesting, imprinted in western/eastern psyche as the devil. Agree with the rest of the sentiment...we should stop using "western parlance" altogether when there are better indic words with more meaning like you describe for jati

titash · Post by **titash** » 03 Jun 2022 09:58

KL Dubey wrote:
vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?
Happy to answer the question. As far as I know Sundar Pichai is an ayyangar (dravida brahman) by jati.

titash wrote: Of all places, BR folks should stay away from these questions - no?

The moment we go down the Sikh vs. Brahmin vs. OBC vs Dalit route, we undermine the Dharmic rejuvenation
Jati ("caste" in western parlance) is an integral part of Bharatiya culture and identity. It indicates a certain community, biological lineage, and customs whatever they may be. That is what makes the sum total of Bharat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Not only that, "caste" is officially recognized by the government. So anyone has the right to discuss the topic or to know the "caste" of someone, with no justification needed.

India is not a melting pot/mixing bowl culture like New World countries. The past matters to us as much as the present and the future. This is a part of "dharmic rejuvenation" and not undermining it.

Discrimination by "caste" must be eradicated by bringing enlightenment to society, but trying to induce an artificial "all castes are the same" or "don't ask about caste" atmosphere will be counterproductive. This is like saying, "all Indians have same DNA", "all religions are same", "the world is one", etc. Foolish utopian ideas that do not reflect reality.

It is interesting that we on BRF frequently complain about the "deracinated" or "woke" Indian but some of us suffer from the same problem when talking about jati.

Why not we be proud of our own jati as well as those of every other Indian ? That is the Indian ethos. Not some kind of mixed up/"no name"/"no background" society.

Dubey-ji & Kaivalya-ji,

I was responding to the pre-edited question that was posed by Vimal-ji in line #1, without the benefit of the context he provided in line #2.

I am aligned with your PoV that taking pride in one's social group / jati is different than pissing on people from different castes.

"all castes are the same" and "don't ask about caste" are like putting blinkers on the horse - agreed. But in an atmosphere where the word "caste" typically goes hand-in-hand with "discrimination" in almost any western publication, a BR audience must be careful about amplifying these differences. United We Stand and Divided We Fall should be the overarching message (while celebrating diversity among jatis/language/culture)

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 03 Jun 2022 10:09

What's come over us Dharmics

No need to look for Shiv Ling in every mosque; court's decision on Gyanvapi should be accepted by all: RSS Chief

Was Ayodhya a flash in the pan? So, basically, each Hindu is for himself/herself in their struggle to get back what is ours and no support from the most prominent Sanaatani group in the country?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Jun 2022 10:14

KL Dubey wrote:
vimal wrote:Tamiz folks here confirm the caste identity of Google CEO Sundar Pichai? Is he a tam brahm?

Happy to answer the question. As far as I know Sundar Pichai is an ayyangar (dravida brahman) by jati.

Could not resist- is he Vadagalai or Thengalai

komal · Post by **komal** » 03 Jun 2022 10:20

Kaivalya wrote:
There seems to be some drama around Google because a BIF gang wanted to have a dalit conference ( 3-4 weeks back iirc , there has been a concerted effort to paint technology companies like cisco, amazon, google etc in the same light ) . It was fended off by dharmic people. Eventually BIF gang lost face. Rhona dhona by the BIF gang increased ...so anyone associated with google is guilty and must be because of caste association ( forget any other rational thought )

Article in WaPo but behind paywall. Don't want to give them any clicks.

Apparently someone named Thenmozi Soundarajan wanted to hold a conference at Google and was not allowed. She apparently is a 'technologist'.

WaPo article is very slanted. So it looks like these folks have media support and are well funded and obviously coached.

Besides the rise of Tamil Brahmins in the CEO world, we have also made inroads into both political parties here. That has apparently set off the alarm bells in the various anti-India theatres (ISI, evangelicals, etc.).

Not sure how to fight this.

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 03 Jun 2022 10:44

la.khan wrote:What's come over us Dharmics

No need to look for Shiv Ling in every mosque; court's decision on Gyanvapi should be accepted by all: RSS Chief

Was Ayodhya a flash in the pan? So, basically, each Hindu is for himself/herself in their struggle to get back what is ours and no support from the most prominent Sanaatani group in the country?

there were similar talks during ayodhya hearing - allowing the judges to get the 1991 PoW act etc.

no need to go look for shivlings, we know they are all there onlee

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Jun 2022 10:50

First Celebrate Ayodhya, this is ongoing but there is a need to rebuild. There is a clear BIF strategy to start riots at this point of time. They know the ecosystem is getting weaker with every passing year.

They want a flashpoint when they are strong and not when they are weak. This is a civilizational war- it needs to be done slowly and methodically, step by step.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 03 Jun 2022 12:39

la.khan wrote:What's come over us Dharmics

No need to look for Shiv Ling in every mosque; court's decision on Gyanvapi should be accepted by all: RSS Chief

Was Ayodhya a flash in the pan? So, basically, each Hindu is for himself/herself in their struggle to get back what is ours and no support from the most prominent Sanaatani group in the country?

Bhagwat has a habit of pouring cold water on all Hindu efforts at consolidation and reclaiming their civilizational space in India. He is a blabber mouth too -- speaks without thinking about the impact of his words on Hindu masses who feel scorned and lose energy. Better to keep mouth shut - silence is golden. Has anyone heard any Muslim leader say: "Why worship in mosques built over temples?" They keep strategic silence, and if they open their mouth, it is only to further the interests of Muslims.

RSS works actively to not allow any other Hindu body to arise in India. They want to be the sole representative, like Muslim League.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 03 Jun 2022 12:51

This BS is being parroted again and again in KL. Is it possible for a state to stop implementing changes in the citizenship provisions? How are they planning to do it?
CAA will not be implemented in Kerala, says CM Pinarayi Vijayan

Kerala Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan on Thursday asserted that his government would not implement the controversial Citizenship (Amendment) Act (CAA).

Speaking at a function organised to mark the conclusion of his government's first anniversary celebrations here, he said, "The government has a clear position on the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA). That will continue."

He said persons holding responsible positions have often said the law would be implemented.

"The state government has a clear position on this matter. There will be no change in it," he said and added that the Citizenship (Amendment) Act was against the secularism of the country.

No one here has the authority to determine citizenship on the basis of religion.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 03 Jun 2022 12:57

Kerala Hindus will again line up to vote for this guy. It is the typical mental blindness of pagans to collaborate with their oppressors.

Increased attacks on people, places of worship in India: Blinken
https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 488338.ece

These are another kind of jokers sitting in America. Every Sunday they go to church, pray to the "only one true god," curse non-believers for worshipping Satan, and condemn them to hell. Then they come out and preach the virtues of religious tolerance to heathens.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Jun 2022 13:31

The clown lady who placed first rank in the one exam wonder sweepstakes is an out and out nut case, a firm believer in the AIT and she quotes extensively from "journalist tony joseph", a cultural psychopath who has some outlandish theories on the origins of early Indians.

he has received masturbatory reviews from the toxic cabal of usual suspects, who praise his word processor skills of cut and paste ideas to form a rather suspect whole.

How such a two bit journo came to write such a pretentious book is beyond comprehension but for the fact that there are BIF entities who will still deride and thus will aid in ghost writing of such a monstrous attack on the common sense of an average Indian.

"journalist tony joseph" has relied on the "six major disciplines - history, archaeology, linguistics, population genetics, philology and epigraphy, and includes path-breaking ancient DNA research of recent years"

so, the moot question is how did this clown so fortuitously chance upon the concatenation of "scientific" circumstances that distilled the essence of "six major disciplines - history, archaeology, linguistics, population genetics, philology and epigraphy, and includes path-breaking ancient DNA research of recent years" enabling him to fire up his illegally downloaded word processor and muster up such a mundane tome and how did it become part of the one exam wonder's curriculum of study.

was it revealed to him from the heavens on high or, more likely, did it arrive by email.

But naturally, very conveniently, and also, entirely as expected, "journalist tony joseph" is, what else, but an "atheist". This is the hall mark of all charlatans who dabble in the secular space but fervently seek to avoid being targeted by their jehadi abrahamic cultists

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 03 Jun 2022 13:31

chetak wrote:

ma beta ka kya timing hai ji.

चरण स्पर्श

Sonia Gandhi tests positive for Covid-19, isolates self

Chetakji
Pappuji has asked for a change of date for his 'Colonoscopy' by the ED doctors ( 13th June if reports are to be believed, given family history of Colon cancer)
Pappani was due for a check up but she has now tested Positive for Covid as well

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Jun 2022 13:34

sanjayc wrote:
la.khan wrote:What's come over us Dharmics

No need to look for Shiv Ling in every mosque; court's decision on Gyanvapi should be accepted by all: RSS Chief

Was Ayodhya a flash in the pan? So, basically, each Hindu is for himself/herself in their struggle to get back what is ours and no support from the most prominent Sanaatani group in the country?
Bhagwat has a habit of pouring cold water on all Hindu efforts at consolidation and reclaiming their civilizational space in India. He is a blabber mouth too -- speaks without thinking about the impact of his words on Hindu masses who feel scorned and lose energy. Better to keep mouth shut - silence is golden. Has anyone heard any Muslim leader say: "Why worship in mosques built over temples?" They keep strategic silence, and if they open their mouth, it is only to further the interests of Muslims.

RSS works actively to not allow any other Hindu body to arise in India. They want to be the sole representative, like Muslim League.

the very least that he could have done was to keep quiet and hold his fire.

apparently some people's open mouths can hold several feet, all at the same time.

This is a political hot potato. no need for anyone to needlessly fuel the fire.

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 03 Jun 2022 17:31

Shri JSji at his usual best. Will look for the video...I see the tone significantly different from the start to the end. The article does not do justice.. video is way better...

From the source...Maybe the interviewer, forum, repetition of usual drivel..answers are brilliant

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 99431.html

"I am not sitting on the fence just because I don't agree with you. It means I am sitting on my ground,"

"Europe has to get out of the mindset that Europe's problem is the world's problem but the world's problem is not Europe's problem," the foreign minister said adding, “Today linkages being made between China and India and what's happening in Ukraine. Come on guys, China and India happened way before Ukraine. I do not see this as a clever argument.”

"Look I don't want to sound argumentative. But then, buying Russian gas is not funding the war? It's only Indian money and Russian oil coming to India that is funding the war and not Russia's gas coming to Europe? Let's be a little even-handed"

"I am one-fifth of the world's population. I am what today the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world. Forget the history and civilisation bit; everybody knows that. I feel I am entitled to have my own side. I am entitled to weigh my own interests, and make my own choices. My choices will not be cynical and transactional. They will be a balance of my values and my interests. There is no country in the world which disregards its interests,"

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 03 Jun 2022 18:21

The number of civilians being killed by Porkis is creeping up everyday. Strangely enough the media is quite silent about it. GoI is content to let it slide…

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Jun 2022 18:53

@DrSJaishankar · 9h

8 yrs of foreign policy that PM @narendramodi has led from the front.

In a polarized world,we have maintained our independence.

In a pandemic world,we have been a source of relief.

In addressing global challenges,we are a force for good.

Welcome to citizen centric diplomacy.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 03 Jun 2022 19:25

After seeing Zee TV ads of "The Kashmir Files" ad-nauseam I now feel that only people who are smiling the way to the banks with bags of cash are Vivek Agnihotri and Zee TV. They have benefited from what ever happened in Kashmir. Where as; the BJP and central government have now walked into a trap. Jehadis continue to kill Hindus in the valley. Main stream media is highlighting that all this is because of revoking Article 370. And secondly; the Kashmiri Pandits - as usual - is crying out they will migrate from the valley. They seem to be another group who expects some one else to do all the hard work. Their attitude seems to be very similar to what Kerala Brahmins took during the 1921 Moplah riots (run, and then expect British, Gorkhas and M.S.P to do all the dirty work). Sooner or later main stream media will ensure that the exodus of 1990s are forgotten and focus would shift to BJP and how that party could not do any thing for the Kashmiri Hindu Pandits. NaMo, A. Shah and A. Doval will have to really think on how to get out of this trap.

Dilbu wrote:This BS is being parroted again and again in KL. Is it possible for a state to stop implementing changes in the citizenship provisions?

sanjayc wrote:Kerala Hindus will again line up to vote for this guy.

He is just trying to impress the average 100% literate Malayali/Keralite who will deride every other state other than KL, but convinienity would not have stepped out of the state's borders even once. Add to this group the peacefools who drool over Arab Sheiks. Pinarayi Vijayan is smart enough to know that keep these 100% gullible idiots happy, then he can continue to be in power.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Jun 2022 20:24

Tanaji wrote:The number of civilians being killed by Porkis is creeping up everyday. Strangely enough the media is quite silent about it. GoI is content to let it slide…

Quite the contrary. It was only after the media and opposition started making noise about yet another exodus did the home ministry wake up. The killings have been going on since last year, it is now atleast 2 or 3 every other day. The home ministry finally called a meeting with NSA, J&K Governor, members of the defense ministry after cable news started showing the mass exodus of hindus in Srinagar airport.

It is probably only a matter of time before Hina Rabbani Khar and her gang of aunties come to Delhi for more track 2.0 diplomacy.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 03 Jun 2022 20:39

Sachin wrote:After seeing Zee TV ads of "The Kashmir Files" ad-nauseam I now feel that only people who are smiling the way to the banks with bags of cash are Vivek Agnihotri and Zee TV. They have benefited from what ever happened in Kashmir. Where as; the BJP and central government have now walked into a trap. Jehadis continue to kill Hindus in the valley. Main stream media is highlighting that all this is because of revoking Article 370. And secondly; the Kashmiri Pandits - as usual - is crying out they will migrate from the valley. They seem to be another group who expects some one else to do all the hard work. Their attitude seems to be very similar to what Kerala Brahmins took during the 1921 Moplah riots (run, and then expect British, Gorkhas and M.S.P to do all the dirty work). Sooner or later main stream media will ensure that the exodus of 1990s are forgotten and focus would shift to BJP and how that party could not do any thing for the Kashmiri Hindu Pandits. NaMo, A. Shah and A. Doval will have to really think on how to get out of this trap.

I don't blame Vivek Agnihotri, he is in a business of making movies and earning legitimate profits. If his movie tanks (as most of his movies do) then him and his producers eat the loss, and if his movie becomes successful then he deserves it. He atleast made an effort to show the sleeping hindus what is in store for them in near future. He gave voice to million+ kashmiri hindus who had to leave their ancestral homes overnight or be killed by jihadis. Vivek Agnihotri did what the government should have done since 1990, i.e. tell people the ugly truth.

I will however agree that Vivek Agnihotri and Pallavi Joshi need to learn from their own brethren in bollywood about optics. No one wants to see their wine clinking pictures in London on instagram on the same day when they have posts about atrocities and killing in kashmir, it just reeks of insincerity .

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 03 Jun 2022 21:18

Kaivalya wrote:
KLDji - it might not be general wokeness... but also the hatred for the word caste as much as GOI accommodates it.

We should allow the word "caste" to die...

I agree. The word "jaati" should be used in all circumstances since that is the actual word used in India over the ages, not "caste". If someone asks me about "caste system", I say I don't know what that means but I can tell you about "jati".

To be fair to goremint, "caste" is used only in English language documents. When in Hindi or other languages "jati" is indeed used. E.g., "anusuchit jati" = "scheduled caste".

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 03 Jun 2022 23:17

sanjayc wrote:Bhagwat has a habit of pouring cold water on all Hindu efforts at consolidation and reclaiming their civilizational space in India. He is a blabber mouth too -- speaks without thinking about the impact of his words on Hindu masses who feel scorned and lose energy. Better to keep mouth shut - silence is golden.

Bhagwat is not one of the better RSS leaders. Let's see what the next one is like.

In any case, this is just mostly talk. I do not think he or the RSS is actually impeding Hindu efforts.

Liberating the major Hindu temples does not require any mass agitations unless the courts take a completely wrong direction. The many cases filed by private citizens, and the clear evidence and precedents established, will get these things through. So these statements about not favoring any more temple agitations are mostly just "sour grapes".

bala · Post by **bala** » 04 Jun 2022 01:33

Shri JS ji in Bratislava Forum delivered tight slaps to all the haughty reporters and their questions. The "Wokeness" is all pervading, driven principally by the US Deep State worldwide. All the machinations behind US and China being in charge of the world as G2 is blotting out rational thinking. The IQ level of the world is going down the drain as we speak, so many zombie reporters regurgitating nonsense, like a well orchestrated chorus, repeating ad nauseum the same talking point/lines.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 04 Jun 2022 05:14

sanjayc wrote:
la.khan wrote:What's come over us Dharmics

No need to look for Shiv Ling in every mosque; court's decision on Gyanvapi should be accepted by all: RSS Chief

Was Ayodhya a flash in the pan? So, basically, each Hindu is for himself/herself in their struggle to get back what is ours and no support from the most prominent Sanaatani group in the country?
Bhagwat has a habit of pouring cold water on all Hindu efforts at consolidation and reclaiming their civilizational space in India. He is a blabber mouth too -- speaks without thinking about the impact of his words on Hindu masses who feel scorned and lose energy. Better to keep mouth shut - silence is golden. Has anyone heard any Muslim leader say: "Why worship in mosques built over temples?" They keep strategic silence, and if they open their mouth, it is only to further the interests of Muslims.

RSS works actively to not allow any other Hindu body to arise in India. They want to be the sole representative, like Muslim League.

Trouble with leaders of this new hindu movement is that they either blow hot (ex : Sadhvi Pragya. Sakshi Maharaj) or blow cold (Bhagwat). They fail to read their audience and lack a long term strategic vision as to how to achieve the goals, and more worryingly other than dreams of "Akhand Bharat" they cannot even define the goals. Some 4 or 5 yrs ago Rajiv Malhotra met with RSS top brass including Mohan Bhagwat, he came out of the meetings vastly unimpressed . In one of his youtube videos he said RSS still functions as a "old boys club" that is not open to outsiders nor to new thoughts and ideas. Yes, Rajiv Malhotra in the recent years has turned bitter and disagreeable about everyone and everything (maybe an age thing or just cynicism after seeing the system up close), but he has a point that for RSS to grow and attract new blood it has to be more savvy and politically wise.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Jun 2022 07:47

Why is it that the amerikis and other goras always think that "their" democracy is superior to ours

Democracy, by its very basic definition, has only one meaning and interpretation, and these parameters do not change according to the color of the skin, political ideology, geographic coordinates or especially religious orientation and beliefs.

We have been forced by the britshits and Indian traitors of those times to import and swallow the toxic version of "secularism" that the goras have long force fed the non whites, whereas, we have always had "our" version of secularism that is superior to their imported/transplanted version and that is more suitable and also a better fit for our civilization and culture.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Jun 2022 08:27

bala wrote:Shri JS ji in Bratislava Forum delivered tight slaps to all the haughty reporters and their questions. The "Wokeness" is all pervading, driven principally by the US Deep State worldwide. All the machinations behind US and China being in charge of the world as G2 is blotting out rational thinking. The IQ level of the world is going down the drain as we speak, so many zombie reporters regurgitating nonsense, like a well orchestrated chorus, repeating ad nauseum the same talking point/lines.

any idea who the moderator/anchor was.

She looked asian and was particularly obnoxious towards Jaishankar.

India has stopped looking for validation from the west and that's got to hurt these brown coolies

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 04 Jun 2022 09:28

Ambar wrote:.. He atleast made an effort to show the sleeping hindus what is in store for them in near future. He gave voice to million+ kashmiri hindus who had to leave their ancestral homes overnight or be killed by jihadis. Vivek Agnihotri did what the government should have done since 1990, i.e. tell people the ugly truth.. .

+1

It got the islamists, BIFs, Wokes & Libtards ranting & raving and exposing themselves gloriously on MSM and SM.

It is sort of like earlier times there would be attacks in India and we would be giving justifications for countering but now we also do the attacking, on their turf, forcing them to counter..

titash · Post by **titash** » 04 Jun 2022 09:51

chetak wrote:
bala wrote:Shri JS ji in Bratislava Forum delivered tight slaps to all the haughty reporters and their questions. The "Wokeness" is all pervading, driven principally by the US Deep State worldwide. All the machinations behind US and China being in charge of the world as G2 is blotting out rational thinking. The IQ level of the world is going down the drain as we speak, so many zombie reporters regurgitating nonsense, like a well orchestrated chorus, repeating ad nauseum the same talking point/lines.
any idea who the moderator/anchor was.

She looked asian and was particularly obnoxious towards Jaishankar.

India has stopped looking for validation from the west and that's got to hurt these brown coolies

Jaishankar Saab had made the point before that people like the status quo when its to their advantage and the people who seek to overturn the status quo are the one who are currently displeased or affected by it.

From that perspective, for an average Indian, validation from the west has increasingly started to lose meaning, and that is a loss of status quo for the west. Hence their resistance and repeated questioning of India's independent positions. People like to have other people behave deferentially and are usually upset when the deference goes away due to independent earning potential, etc.

Respect has to be earned on a day-by-day basis, unless:
1) you're a Sadguru
2) have innate talent like Pele/Tendulkar
3) have a very massive one-time transformational social impact like Ambedkar / Modi / Trump / Nasser / Oscar Schindler

The loss of deference is what hurts the west and the erstwhile elite Lutyens/South Bombay types. When you're reduced to writing whiny Op-Eds and bitching and moaning during interviews, the writing is on the wall

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Jun 2022 11:52

bala wrote:Shri JS ji in Bratislava Forum delivered tight slaps to all the haughty reporters and their questions. The "Wokeness" is all pervading, driven principally by the US Deep State worldwide. All the machinations behind US and China being in charge of the world as G2 is blotting out rational thinking. The IQ level of the world is going down the drain as we speak, so many zombie reporters regurgitating nonsense, like a well orchestrated chorus, repeating ad nauseum the same talking point/lines.

take a look at the very end of the 30 minutes session, the faces of the audience, as the session concludes, is a real study, (except for the Indians seated in the front row).

The anchor too, was not quite as feisty in the end, as she was in the beginning.

4R Talk- Mr S. Jaishankar, MEA India, Maithreyi Seetharaman,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLA5RD5GTdA

she certainly came across as a hired hitman (or hitwoman), if such a term is preferred

comments on the you tube page

Interviewer is alumni of Jai Hind college, Mumbai and started her career in Financial express, Cnbc-18 before moving to London for PG and a career in western journalism.

One would expect her to stand for her country, but I guess she isn’t Indian anymore. She is what Max mueller had talked about: a brown sepoy.

Her questions on India’s Russian gas purchase, wheat export ban, India’s stand on Ukraine conflict were devoid of understanding of Indian POV. One might understand the foreign journalist comparing Ukraine conflict with China-India conflict, but she repeating that point in spite of the EAMs earlier reply to the foreign journalist betrays her prejudice in the issue.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 04 Jun 2022 12:11

I posted Dr SJ's GlobSec interview with Maithreyi Seetharaman - for those wanting to get to know her personally - in the Ukr thread since a lot of it revolves around Ukraine.

Dr SJ's replies were all not just swag. He is one who weighs his words while connecting dots the way few would. He is actively engaging in dismantling current anti-india narratives.

On grain exports for ex. He had to point out that grain traders were making a killing at the expense of the very same vulnerable countries everyone is getting woke about and GoI was forced to clamp free trading but still allows Gov2Gov export.

Remind the role India played in distributing vaccines while the west was hoarding and worse.

On Russian oil reminded them that they already sanctioned Iran, Venezuela who were significant suppliers to India. Even now access to old is hard since they have shut out insurance for ships carrying Russian oil.

What he stopped short of saying but probably would have said if there was more time, is that by not realising its diminishing influence and doing less and less "good" for the RoW, AND at the same time expecting the RoW to take its local concerns seriously, Europe is actually alienating itself from the RoW. And when the RoW moves on and develops strong interlinkages among itself Europe will find it more and more difficult to regain relevance and come back into the action.

I saw a few shades of this enlightened non-aggressive self interest (or ENASI) thinking in Arnab, Sarin, Palki etc. We need 10x the number firing on all intl platforms to get these people out of their sclerosed thinking. And at home too.

disha · Post by **disha** » 04 Jun 2022 12:13

Couple of observations and asks:

1. Sachin'ji, Vivek Agnihotri really went against Bollywood to get the Kashmir files out. Noone ever imagined that it will become Cashmere files for him. Also in the movie ecosystem, the producer gets the money last since lots of cuts have been made along the way for the distributors, theatres, investors etc ... The good part is, given that Vivek A is now such a bankable producer-director, his next venture will have a lot of investors lined up.

2. Mohan Bhagwat's statement is "like here nor there while appearing to hit Hindu causes". Let me explain, he said among other things Islam came via invaders but now Muslims in India are Indians only (that takes away their special abbu status). More importantly, he said, "Every masjid need not to be seen as having a Shivling (inside it)". That last statement is like Yudhistara's "narova kunjova" as said by some. That is, every masjid need not be seen as having a shivling (inside it). Ergo some masjids may have Rama, Vishnu, Devas - Surya/Shani, Thirthankaras ... <crores of indic deites> inside them. This also allows RSS to get out of the "axis" or "mantle" thrust on them by BIF.

Remember, in a narrative war, best is not to be cornered into an image. Right now for all said and done, the moment one momeen says OlaUber in anger publicly, everyone races to the exit. That's not a good image to be caught into. And that is why the church does not want its padres to be cornered into an image of pedo-padres. Imagine a padre saying "lord bless you" and all kids & their parents racing to the nearest exit!

And asks:

1. Who was the "holier than thou" journo interviewing EAM Jaishankar at the GLOBSEC 2022 conference?

2. The HTH journo appeared to be a desi talking in a clipped accent. In reality, she was a glorified pawn of "some". EAM knew this. The "some" knew that EAM knew it. EAM knew that the "some" knew that EAM knew it. Except for the glorified pawn. She was totally clueless and a handmaiden.

So who is the "some" who were backing the glorified pawn? Hint: The glorified pawn inadvertently lets out that an "eminent geopolitical expert on wall street" and a "she" ended up pushing the "Either US or China axis" line.

I do want to know who is the female geopolitical expert on wall street? I did some google chacha and put some names here: Evelyn Farkas. Peggy Noonan. Kimberley Strassel. Tanvi Madan* (?).

Who is the "she...geopolitical expert on wall street" that the pawn journo was referring to at the Globesec?

*I really really hope it is Tanvi Madan. Then wall street is doomed.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 04 Jun 2022 12:21

Actually I think its good that such questions were asked, they reflect the popular narratives being set and peddled in the west, giving the opportunity to our EAM to blast-zap them into outer space.

The really European thinking and attitude behind it is revealed in a few seconds when the Lituanian "freelance journalist" Konstantin Eggert gets up to ask his question. The tone, disrespect to anchor and Dr SJ, sense of entitlement and the need to score public wokey points, and the self centred and self serving thinking is all visible. Thats the kind of people Dr SJ has to deal with day in and day out. The interviewer is just part of the event decor.