2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 22 Aug 2022 10:51

Personally i am shocked at the R&D over so called boycott resulting in the film failing.

I don't usually watch a Bollywood film in the hall. Over the last decade i can count on my a single finger how many film's i have seen in hall.

These idiot's didn't care about my boycott. Now they do. Booo Hooo.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 22 Aug 2022 11:20

hnair wrote:The bhaiwood “financiers” also has a rough time because they can’t launder over claims of 500crore business due to alert social media campaigns. All in all a good time for changes from the last 75 years of an entitled filmi industry.

Read some reports which says that Amir Khan's crap movies gets a huge revenue from China. Either the Chinese are crazy or it is another way to siphon in money to cause trouble in India. On the boycott campaigns; Facebook seems to have realised that I am pro-boycott and now pumps in 'news reports' which talks to these movies actually doing good

. But this 'boycott' calls seems to cause jitters in the secular camp. Here is another whine; As calls for boycott of Muslim business resound, their livelihoods teeter on the edge, threatening social and economic stability

. A minority hell bent on bulldozing the majority community can be taken down by a simple thing as boycott. Gandhi-giri used for some good, I say.

The "bhaiwood" seems to have good grip on Malayalam movie industry. Off late there are some movies in which the "innocent hard working Muslim youth framed in terrorism cases" theories are played out.

Perhaps it better to have a thread in BRF on the Bhaiwood and its history. Congress seems to have co-opted this group pretty early in Independent India, IMHO. There are lot of movies which were made in 1950s which glorified the Nehru-Ghandis, then also nurtured the Rich Industrialist == bad, Poor farmer == good kind of pure socialist drivel. Even the Nargiz-Sunil Dutt duo, Amitabh Bachan & Co getting into politics seems to be part of the grand scheme of Congress on influencing gullible Indians. From when the underworld started playing more active role in this industry; perhaps needs more study.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 22 Aug 2022 13:01

"No Indian citizenship, 1500 Pakistani Hindus return in 18months"
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/jaipur/ ... 699054.cms

I find this hard to believe. If Rohingyas get thrive in India by hook or crook, these refugees can't?

Besides, are no Hindu sanghatans helping them?

Can't say if the govt cares much. After KPs we now have PHs. Sad.

Anyone who has closer knowledge of this matter, enlighten us please.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 22 Aug 2022 15:34

Zynda wrote:A little OT here...It seems Toyota is launching Land Cruiser 300 for INR 2.2 Crore (Booking amount of 10L). At least two confirmed deliveries; one to a politician in North India & another one to another politician in Coimbatore, TN...official delivery date starts from Jan 2023 for people who can shell out 2.2 Cr onlee...Guess this is the next preferred cars for our politicians and big-wigs...move over Fortuner....the next big car in my puny hatchback rear mirror will be a Toyota LC 300 with a political party flag attached upfront honking madly to make way...considering the size of this vehicle, it will be challenging to make it go in many side roads of BLR, the widths of which are strictly designed for two moving hatchbacks onlee...so hopefully this will force politicians to make BBMP & other cities municipal corp to update their layout construction codes etc.

The new Alto K10 costs 6L for top-end trim...insane prices...too bad our pocket power hasn't caught up with steep inflation.

I am not so sure when i hear that 3lakh bookings have been done for new Mahindra Scorpio-N which i estimate average price to be 15 Lakh. If you have some spare time - try following some Car enthusiast channels on youtube - i am always perplexed with the number and value of cars that they buy frequently. LR Defender seems to be the new craze in town as rough-and-tough SUV - avg price 1.5 crores. When i started my car purchase i made so many compromises to stay under 10lakh - but i see most of the society around me has a 17-20 lakh Mahindra Thar as a second 'lifestyle' vehicle.
So looking around - one doesn't get the feeling of high inflation in car prices.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 22 Aug 2022 16:02

If your house is inherited, buying a car with loan is easy. The ones whose parents did not earn or were spendthrifts are the ones who have to comprise.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 22 Aug 2022 16:10

[quote="Sachin"]Here is another whine; As calls for boycott of Muslim business resound, their livelihoods teeter on the edge, threatening social and economic stability

. A minority hell bent on bulldozing the majority community can be taken down by a simple thing as boycott. Gandhi-giri used for some good, I say.
/quote]
These presstitutes will never become decent. Why is the desert cult which invented 'Halal' to automatically boycott all non-believers in each and economic activity and opportunity now cry when their tricks have been turned around on them ? This kaum dominates localities by harassing kaafirs so that they sell it at fraction price to their biraadari now crying of economic boycott. I say bring it on,

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 22 Aug 2022 17:33

Sachin, a certain box retailer guy and who recently started operations in my place and another North Indian city makes such tall claims. He claims he is bringing in investments of 1000s of crores and 1000s of jobs. Then in PR releases, he quotes investment amounts that are 4 times what he has to file as per mandatory central govt processes. The mandatory filings are the actual amount, because they need some good documentation. But no one except people like me actually look those numbers up from arcane filings. Which means in public mind, his “investment” is four times of what is actual and that means no one will question any “minor” issues that might cause during accounting, when “return on investment” is showing more than it is.

Not related

….. but 30 crore per diplomatic pouch was what the notorious UAE consulate gold smuggling scam’s rate of flow was alleged to have been to Trivandrum. There are not many businesses or financial institutions here, that could absorb and launder at that scale. So you can pretty much count with the finger/s in your hand on who can absorb that and who also has capability in managing the pipeline at Abudhabi (again not related…

).

Anyways…. You get the picture?

Same script for kerala box office claims: a piece of turd movie like “Kurup” is a mega hit. Sure. Lucifer is another one making those claims. God onlee knows

The script writer of movie Jana Gana Mana seem an avowed jihadi apologist. Which is what you might be referring to?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 22 Aug 2022 18:29

hnair wrote:The script writer of movie Jana Gana Mana seem an avowed jihadi apologist. Which is what you might be referring to?

Not exactly. I meant the movie Kismath. Especially scenes such as this. The names of characters, all have very clear connotations.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 22 Aug 2022 18:44

Oh that movie is not as sophisticated as the Jana Gana Mana, incase you have not seen it. The one I pointed out neatly targets a lot of things - Nice RoPer professor killed for being too socially nice, shows Karnataka govt as hostile, make Prithviraj spout all the PFI/SDPI talking points of “uppercaste oppression and need for an alliance with sudus” etc like it is a Friday.

I am not usually concerned because there are tit for tat such movies in Kerala, but that movie was too very obvious in its objective. What is smart about these guys was that when questions slowly started being raised, he said some random things against SDPI guys, who objected and he later made a show of apologising etc to make it appear both their objectives are dissimilar. The movie was produced by secular types. So all is well

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 22 Aug 2022 20:30

Don’t know if anyone has posted on this “agitation” spearheaded by Latin Catholic church in my backyard yet, but things are being allowed to get out of hand, despite lessons from Koodankulam and Sterlite!

Protesting fisherfolk force their way into Vizhinjam port site; tension prevails

The protesters have been alleging that the unscientific construction of groynes, the artificial sea walls known as 'pulimutt' in local parlance, as part of the upcoming Vizhinjam port was one of the reasons for the increasing coastal erosion in the district

1) Usage of word “unscientific” by regular kerala peoples when a channel’s mike is thrust on them have spiked. Every jobless dude sitting on a culvert and providing itch-relief to his privates use “unscientific” when expressing their opinion about the design choices of any highly complex project. For example: if you ask them their view on Polar launch vs Geo launch into space, they will say both are unscientific and talk about how his house got flooded because of such things.

2) the port breakwater (groyn/pulimuttu) has barely projected out from the Vizhinjam Lighthouse promontory and yet these guys (egged on by padres) claims the partially build breakwater causes things like “wave pattern change, houses washed off and fishes committed suicide”. Forget the fact that every monsoon, since my memory, there have been a natural process of shore withdrawal(shoreline recedes and beaches become thin) during monsoon storms and later by Nov-Dec, shore-recovery (sand gets dumped back and beaches become wider). And every season, a ton of fisher folks lose their residences due to being too close to shoreline which means govt promptly announces “relief”, a huge segment of which will go to local leaders and the church while the locals will build back on sane exact unsafe spot using mostly their own monies. This charade has been going on for years. But now, we got a nice new bugbear: Adani Ports. So church padres will inject anti-Modi rhetoric too and get calls from local Congress leaders including Opposition leader VDSatheesan

3) Adanis are also being non-strategic. They dragged their ass for years over claims of lack of stones, but was mostly inept in the project execution. Current plan is a fully automated cargo handling terminal which might employ max of 500-1000 highly skilled people. Which means these fisher folks will feel left out even in future. Folks including me have lobbied over years to add some non-cargo component like a cruise-terminal (which will provide high volume lower skill jobs to locals). Will cost 10-20 crore for a cruise terminal. But Adanis penny-pinched (less than .5% of total project cost) and shifted it to Phase2, which would be sometime in 2030 maybe. If that was in Phase1, the church propaganda of “loss of jobs” could have been easily rectified by counter arguments, because that area has lots of beach resorts with local participation and everyone would be happy.

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 22 Aug 2022 21:58

Cyrano wrote:"No Indian citizenship, 1500 Pakistani Hindus return in 18months"
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/jaipur/ ... 699054.cms
I find this hard to believe. If Rohingyas get thrive in India by hook or crook, these refugees can't?
Besides, are no Hindu sanghatans helping them?
Can't say if the govt cares much. After KPs we now have PHs. Sad.
Anyone who has closer knowledge of this matter, enlighten us please.

I think there's overall babucracy support for Rohingyaas and illegal BDs. Congressi tentacles in babucracy remains deep. Easy for them to 'arrange' documents for Rohingyas while genuine Hindu refugees suffer.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 22 Aug 2022 22:49

The jihadi director AliAbbas Zafar who directed anti-hindu Tandav is directing sikh riot basically to blame it on RSS/Hindus for elections

Pinkvilla @pinkvilla
#DiljitDosanjh and #AliAbbasZafar are all set to bring to life a tale of courage and valour amid the 1984 Sikh riots in Delhi in #Jogi. Check out the teaser here.

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment ... hi-1179341

Vetrivel Murugan
@Vetrive18924700

What an irony!
Khalistanis & jihadis combining to make a movie about the Sikh genocide by Congress!

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 23 Aug 2022 10:12

shravanp wrote:I think there's overall babucracy support for Rohingyaas and illegal BDs. Congressi tentacles in babucracy remains deep. Easy for them to 'arrange' documents for Rohingyas while genuine Hindu refugees suffer.

More than babucracy I think it is the general apathy in Hindu community, who generally ignores problems of others who are not very close to them. Babucracy works well with the right amount of pushing. These refugees will not have any strong connections with any lobby in India. A Rohingya illegal can walk upto a local mosque and a machinery automatically gets working to provide him the documentation. A Hindu refugee does not have any such system. Even BJP or RSS which claims to be helping Hindus from neighbouring countries do not have this kind of a ground level NGO mechanism. The BJP government would be hoping that 'some one' with a love for Hindus will just use the laws to get things moving. From observing babucracy in the place where I live; they generally do not bring personal grudges or biases when working on routine things. What they look forward is if the due process (including bribes) have been given.

hnair wrote:But now, we got a nice new bugbear: Adani Ports. So church padres will inject anti-Modi rhetoric too and get calls from local Congress leaders including Opposition leader VDSatheesan

What is your take on the attitude of the current commie government? Are they in for this? Or will they just play spoil sport?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 23 Aug 2022 10:39

By the way. Satya Pal Malik, Governor of Meghalaya seems to be another vocal critic of Modi Govt especially on the farm laws. So much so that secular news papers tom tom his statements? Any idea on the Chanakian-ness of retaining this person as a governor?

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Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 23 Aug 2022 12:30

Sachin wrote:By the way. Satya Pal Malik, Governor of Meghalaya seems to be another vocal critic of Modi Govt especially on the farm laws. So much so that secular news papers tom tom his statements? Any idea on the Chanakian-ness of retaining this person as a governor? .

He wants to be a martyr by attempting to be sacked by Modi. He thinks that by being vocal about this particular issue will help in reviving his non existent political career.

The most telling point is that no body from BJP national executive has ever tried to shut him up.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 23 Aug 2022 15:35

Nupur Sharma episode all over again. BJP MLA Raja Singh first arrested in Hyd & now expelled by the BJP!

His crime: he allegedly spoke against Prophet Mohammad. This was in the context of Munnawar Farooqui who used vulgar words for Ram & Sita, being given a platform (with heavy police protection) to perform in Hyd.

Muslims in Hyd are openly saying that the "city belongs to them". They show placards and proudly announce "Sar Tan Se Juda" on National TV.

Why? Because their street violence gives them protection against prosecution. Cat gets the tongue of our Judiciary. Our Hindu-nationalist Party's response is to sack their own MLA.

We are on our way to becoming a shariah state.

Larry Walker · Post by **Larry Walker** » 23 Aug 2022 16:26

Will his expulsion satisfy the jihadis - NO - infact they will get more aggressive. But expelling atleast provides cover fire to BJP and makes the MLA a martyr for Hindus. So let this continue. It is not that this comedian joker Faroqui delivers only 1 standup every year - but since he was to perform in Hyderabad - then why let this opportunity slip away ?!! It is a well thought strategy to bait the jihadis for them to show their true colors else the Hindu will continue in his slumber. And TRS reacted predictably which establishes BJP as the main challenger in Telangana - leaving INC to bite dust there too.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Aug 2022 16:46

Prem Kumar wrote:Nupur Sharma episode all over again. BJP MLA Raja Singh first arrested in Hyd & now expelled by the BJP!

His crime: he allegedly spoke against Prophet Mohammad. This was in the context of Munnawar Farooqui who used vulgar words for Ram & Sita, being given a platform (with heavy police protection) to perform in Hyd.

Muslims in Hyd are openly saying that the "city belongs to them". They show placards and proudly announce "Sar Tan Se Juda" on National TV.

Why? Because their street violence gives them protection against prosecution. Cat gets the tongue of our Judiciary. Our Hindu-nationalist Party's response is to sack their own MLA.

We are on our way to becoming a shariah state.

Thier power comes from outside India, India has long been a Sharia state, oy now we are finding some rights.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 23 Aug 2022 17:27

Sachin wrote:
hnair wrote:But now, we got a nice new bugbear: Adani Ports. So church padres will inject anti-Modi rhetoric too and get calls from local Congress leaders including Opposition leader VDSatheesan
What is your take on the attitude of the current commie government? Are they in for this? Or will they just play spoil sport?

Sachin, there are lot of nuances in political stances of each leader, which can’t be broadbeushed like you are doing. For example, this speech today:

Sounds very pro-Adani and port. But is not the case for the TRV airport, where same guy spoke harshly against them. So there is no predictability.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 23 Aug 2022 17:55

hnair wrote:Usage of word “unscientific”

This is quite obviously the church indoctrination at work.
Surely the port will create more jobs, even if just labouring jobs.

This story is from 2016 in the al-guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... tra-rivers

same sort of stupid lame comments.

When are these churches going to start campaigns protesting the designs of ports in the west ?

If canals are so bad, when are western environmentalists going to start campaigns to fill in canals in the west ?

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 23 Aug 2022 17:56

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/w ... 38573.html
Raj drumming up his Hindutva ID
and Hiz Honors chikening out??
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/n ... 38505.html
Do we take both into consideration and ?? have the Duo(NaMo and AS) given green signal for Raj entry into some sort of alliance to the save the Maharashtra Government then?? if there is trouble ahead with the courts

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 23 Aug 2022 19:20

Adani Group to buy 29.2% stake in NDTV, launch open offer for another 26%. Does this mean that NDTV would lose its 'secular credentials' and become 'communal'? There were reports of NDTV having serious financial issues, so is the take over a fall out of that?

Mean while we take one more step towards Shariah law.
On attaining puberty, Muslim girl can marry without parents’ consent: Delhi High Court

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 23 Aug 2022 22:01

While we are still trying to get drinking water to households, why do some politicians want to deliver liquor directly to households ? :
https://www.firstpost.com/india/delhi-l ... 78691.html

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 23 Aug 2022 23:57

Cyrano wrote:"No Indian citizenship, 1500 Pakistani Hindus return in 18months"
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/jaipur/ ... 699054.cms

I find this hard to believe. If Rohingyas get thrive in India by hook or crook, these refugees can't?

Besides, are no Hindu sanghatans helping them?

Can't say if the govt cares much. After KPs we now have PHs. Sad.

Anyone who has closer knowledge of this matter, enlighten us please.

Can't comment on this instance. Similar thing happened earlier and Dr. Omendra Rantu did clarified on the circumstances. Pasting link below for reference.
https://youtu.be/SfvhfF7usBQ

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 24 Aug 2022 04:46

Sachin wrote:By the way. Satya Pal Malik, Governor of Meghalaya seems to be another vocal critic of Modi Govt especially on the farm laws. So much so that secular news papers tom tom his statements? Any idea on the Chanakian-ness of retaining this person as a governor? .

Sachin Saar,
Satya Pal Malik has interesting antecedents. Satya Pal Malik is known for using the other person for every need of his. One example given by Pradeep Singh of Aapka Akhbar is that Satya Pal Malik made another councillor, a passenger in his car to pay for the petrol to take him places. He is also someone that has party hopped from early 80's to mid 90's on every party to survive politically.

He always has had inflated self importance and was constantly angling for more posts. His governorship is going to end in Oct/Nov time frame of this year and the BJP central leadership has not offered anything after this post. By putting in Dhankad as the Vice President who is also a Jat, they have effectively shown Satyapal Malik his place and shut the door for him.

There is also a CBI case on him (the details which escape from me now) and it is most certainly going to be followed up once he is out as a governor. That is why this gentleman was making all the noises during the Kisaan Andolan and will probably do the same going forward with the secular media hailing him as the next Yashwanth/Shatrugan Sinha.

The BJP doesn't seem to target individuals and is almost always trying to do governance which allows all and sundry to take potshots on them, but in the longterm scheme of things BJP seem to be ahead (Shatrugan and Yashwanth Sinha till early this year were high flying but are nowhere to be seen anymore with mamata that proposed yashwanths name leaving him in the middle of the road speaking metaphorically).

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 24 Aug 2022 10:17

Larry Walker wrote:But expelling atleast provides cover fire to BJP and makes the MLA a martyr for Hindus.

This also has a negative side; that many people will start feeling that BJP is dumping Hindutwa. And the secular camp can misuse this feeling, amplify it using social media etc. and get more people move away from BJP. It is okay a more right wing party emerges and these people move there, but I don't see that happening. So it may actually harm BJP in the long term. The BJP should have some smaller outfits/parties whose leaders can make such non-secular comments. In T.N there was one party (and a leader - Thaniyarasu?) who only existed in Salem and few adjoining districts. This leader was said to have been made a leader only to make statements which AIADMDK or Jayalalithaa could not have openly said.

venkat_kv wrote:There is also a CBI case on him (the details which escape from me now) and it is most certainly going to be followed up once he is out as a governor.

Governor works under the President's discretion so this chap could have been shown the door earlier. May be yes; BJP will allow him to complete his term move him away as a matter of routine transfer and then send the CBI after him. May be he is also aware of this and so the secularisation happening in him now.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 24 Aug 2022 19:44

Raja Singh literally damaged BJP during by-election time. He has seen Nupur aftermath. What is the need for this speech?

Look at how Modi tackled both Pawar, Mamta and now Kujli. I think we just need to trust and take these anti-national scoundrels thru CBI/ED.

This is how they are scared

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 24 Aug 2022 19:46

Bar & Bench @barandbench
A person who retires or is going to retire has no value in this country: CJI NV Ramana

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 24 Aug 2022 20:21

Can no one tell our judiciary to speak only through judgements and not like this.

Even judges post retirement are active as consultants for advocates in lower courts.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 24 Aug 2022 20:52

Pratyush wrote:Can no one tell our judiciary to speak only through judgements and not like this.

Even judges post retirement are active as consultants for advocates in lower courts.

We should bring in a legislation to appoint some of them (who are rated on scale of 1 to 10 whose judgements meet constitutional norms) to an arbitration committee that monitors judiciary and makes it accountable. 5 year fixed term with clear deliverables (reduces cases by 10% every year). Eliminate ideological left and let them be judged by their conformance to the constitution. This committee will also rate other judges in the service on their conformance to the constitution

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 24 Aug 2022 21:14

Rishi Bagree @rishibagree

Medical Seats:

2014 - 52000
2022 - 91927
(77% increase)

AIIMS:
2014 - 7
2022 - 25
(Modi added 18 AIIMS in 8 yrs vs 7 in 67 yrs)

Medical Colleges
2014 - 385 ( 209 Pvt + 176 Govt)
2020 - 612 ( 290 Pvt + 322 Govt)
(For the First Time No. of Govt colleges is higher than Private)

kit · Post by **kit** » 24 Aug 2022 21:16

For Modiji s vision for a new nation @ 100., to remove all vestiges of the colonial past , change in name IS important.

India is BHARAT

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 24 Aug 2022 21:22

Paki flags are haram but Vatican flags are apparently ok to be raised at the site of a strategic project.

Link

A godman holding the flag up

Vatican flag

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 25 Aug 2022 01:45

Book launch : India, Bharat and Pakistan

J Sai deepakji and meenakshiji on mughal colonialism, british colonialism and khilafat 2.0 ( saideepak's words ) that we are currently living under

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 25 Aug 2022 02:14

Gdakari-country has potential (infrastructure) but govt not taking decision in time

https://news.abplive.com/news/india/gov ... dy-1549706

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 25 Aug 2022 02:55

Sachin wrote:
venkat_kv wrote:There is also a CBI case on him (the details which escape from me now) and it is most certainly going to be followed up once he is out as a governor.
Governor works under the President's discretion so this chap could have been shown the door earlier. May be yes; BJP will allow him to complete his term move him away as a matter of routine transfer and then send the CBI after him. May be he is also aware of this and so the secularisation happening in him now.

My understanding from Pradeep Singh's videos was that the movement on the case happened after 2019 and when he had already left as the governor to his current position. So BJP has for what ever reason decided to let him finish his tenure. Also not to ruffle any Jat feathers for elections that happened in the early part of this year.

He seems to have made some requests to the BJP leadership to accomodate him in the next level (probably VP, President ship or any other posts) commensurate with his stature as a "tall Jat leader" . On being met with silence, you find him talking in support of the Tikaits and farmer protesters as some kind of a leader.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Aug 2022 03:03

https://restofworld.org/2022/right-wing ... -in-india/
Right-wing groups are exploiting OSINT to spread propaganda in India
OSINT has mostly been used to hold the powerful accountable, as in the Russian invasion of Ukraine; in India, it’s being co-opted to target Modi’s critics.

Jihadi/Fascist Left alliance has issues in dealing with propaganda being busted by Indians and exposing BIF. They don't dispute one fact that is exposed

Under an anonymous Twitter handle, @thehawkeyex has been on a mission to expose what they perceive as “anti-India” forces — mostly critics of the Hindu nationalist ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), including prominent journalists and media outlets. The handle frequently publishes threads citing news articles and other public documents as evidence of alleged misappropriation of funds or tax evasion.

The handle describes its work as open-source intelligence (OSINT), with a following of nearly 100,000. But experts say it’s part of a new wave of partisan content that uses the image of OSINT to appear unbiased.

Besides @thehawkeyex, anonymous self-described OSINT accounts such as @AgentVinod03, @OsintUpdates, and @OSINTWa_com claim to be frontline warriors in support of the Indian government. Most of their tweets have a clear right-of-center ideological leaning, which makes any and all critics of Prime Minister Narendra Modi — including journalists — “anti-India” to them. “We try to burst the Anti India Propaganda by Anti National Organizations. We expose the links and their funding pattern,” reads the mission statement of @AgentVinod03.

The takleef is this account

The Hawk Eye
@thehawkeyex

Thanks
@restofworld
for writing critic piece against my handle. Clearly shows its making a difference. Many factual flaws but leaving it for other day. Btw u ain’t need LSE researchers to perform such “analysis”, any avrg Rana Ayyub fan wud hv done it for free

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 25 Aug 2022 03:38

Prem Kumar wrote:Nupur Sharma episode all over again. BJP MLA Raja Singh first arrested in Hyd & now expelled by the BJP!

His crime: he allegedly spoke against Prophet Mohammad. This was in the context of Munnawar Farooqui who used vulgar words for Ram & Sita, being given a platform (with heavy police protection) to perform in Hyd.

Muslims in Hyd are openly saying that the "city belongs to them". They show placards and proudly announce "Sar Tan Se Juda" on National TV.

Why? Because their street violence gives them protection against prosecution. Cat gets the tongue of our Judiciary. Our Hindu-nationalist Party's response is to sack their own MLA.

We are on our way to becoming a shariah state.

There is a certain extra nuances in this instance of Raja Singh running his mouth and getting expelled from BJP for now. He is the only BJP MLA to have won in the 2018 local assembly elections on the back of unabashed and unapologetic Hindutva.

The issue of Munnawar Farooqi insulting Ram & Sita doesn't give Raja Singh an open license to run down the Prophet. This is going to play into the hands of the sickulars and has played well into it in this case. Raja Singh in his short video hasn't said anything about how Lord Ram & Sita are good to be followed or how much he reveres their life or anything. At the very least he could have pointed out that KCR who shows he is a hindu when it suits him during rallies and elections would have been in a corner on how a Ram and Sita hater could be given a platform with police protection and this was due to his closeness with AIMIM and for muslim votes. Instead what we had was a video that was mostly against the Prophet.

This lets Munnawar farooqui of the hook as the BJP doesn't have any media standing by their side asking any tough questions to the "supposed standup comedian". the rest of the Sar tan se Juda and silence all around follows as usual with his video.

He also seems to have said that he doesn't care about any action the party may take against him as his love for Ram is more. The BJP needs a dedicated and also clever karyakartas to read the room so to speak and not a lone wolf trying to run their own fiefdoms.

The second and probably more important issue that has been swept under the rug due to this is the issue of CBI raids that were seemingly threatening Telangana's CM KCR's daughter in the recent Delhi Liquor scam case. OmkarC will probably have a better view with more info but the gist is that Liquor mafia as they are being called now are trying to get a liquor policy where their commissions increase and most of the extra money that is in the price of liquor gets siphoned to their own pockets and they in turn fund the parties.

This has been whispered as what the Liquor mafia have done for AAP in Goa and Punjab apart for supposedly paying "handsome" some sizeable amount as well.

Due to Raja Singhs comments not a single paper has published anything about this when both Congress and BJP have alleged wrong doing. She has filed a case in high court of Telanaga and has gotten an gag order on anyone to stop discussing about this case. This what CBN does most of the time when there are revelations about a scam on him or his party.

The whole of the print and visual media had consumed fevicol and only showed Raja Sighs statements running them in a loop as is their nature and any discussions of telangana bigwigs in this issue has been buried for now.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Aug 2022 03:48

venkat_kv wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:Nupur Sharma episode all over again. BJP MLA Raja Singh first arrested in Hyd & now expelled by the BJP!

His crime: he allegedly spoke against Prophet Mohammad. This was in the context of Munnawar Farooqui who used vulgar words for Ram & Sita, being given a platform (with heavy police protection) to perform in Hyd.

Muslims in Hyd are openly saying that the "city belongs to them". They show placards and proudly announce "Sar Tan Se Juda" on National TV.

Why? Because their street violence gives them protection against prosecution. Cat gets the tongue of our Judiciary. Our Hindu-nationalist Party's response is to sack their own MLA.

We are on our way to becoming a shariah state.
There is a certain extra nuances in this instance of Raja Singh running his mouth and getting expelled from BJP for now. He is the only BJP MLA to have won in the 2018 local assembly elections on the back of unabashed and unapologetic Hindutva.

The issue of Munnawar Farooqi insulting Ram & Sita doesn't give Raja Singh an open license to run down the Prophet. This is going to play into the hands of the sickulars and has played well into it in this case. Raja Singh in his short video hasn't said anything about how Lord Ram & Sita are good to be followed or how much he reveres their life or anything. At the very least he could have pointed out that KCR who shows he is a hindu when it suits him during rallies and elections would have been in a corner on how a Ram and Sita hater could be given a platform with police protection and this was due to his closeness with AIMIM and for muslim votes. Instead what we had was a video that was mostly against the Prophet.

This lets Munnawar farooqui of the hook as the BJP doesn't have any media standing by their side asking any tough questions to the "supposed standup comedian". the rest of the Sar tan se Juda and silence all around follows as usual with his video.

He also seems to have said that he doesn't care about any action the party may take against him as his love for Ram is more. The BJP needs a dedicated and also clever karyakartas to read the room so to speak and not a lone wolf trying to run their own fiefdoms.

The second and probably more important issue that has been swept under the rug due to this is the issue of CBI raids that were seemingly threatening Telangana's CM KCR's daughter in the recent Delhi Liquor scam case. OmkarC will probably have a better view with more info but the gist is that Liquor mafia as they are being called now are trying to get a liquor policy where their commissions increase and most of the extra money that is in the price of liquor gets siphoned to their own pockets and they in turn fund the parties.

This has been whispered as what the Liquor mafia have done for AAP in Goa and Punjab apart for supposedly paying "handsome" some sizeable amount as well.

Due to Raja Singhs comments not a single paper has published anything about this when both Congress and BJP have alleged wrong doing. She has filed a case in high court of Telanaga and has gotten an gag order on anyone to stop discussing about this case. This what CBN does most of the time when there are revelations about a scam on him or his party.

The whole of the print and visual media had consumed fevicol and only showed Raja Sighs statements running them in a loop as is their nature and any discussions of telangana bigwigs in this issue has been buried for now.

That is my problem too. He let Kavitha Liquor scam go away.

venkat_kv · Post by **venkat_kv** » 25 Aug 2022 04:25

Sachin wrote:
Larry Walker wrote:But expelling atleast provides cover fire to BJP and makes the MLA a martyr for Hindus.
This also has a negative side; that many people will start feeling that BJP is dumping Hindutwa. And the secular camp can misuse this feeling, amplify it using social media etc. and get more people move away from BJP. It is okay a more right wing party emerges and these people move there, but I don't see that happening. So it may actually harm BJP in the long term. The BJP should have some smaller outfits/parties whose leaders can make such non-secular comments. In T.N there was one party (and a leader - Thaniyarasu?) who only existed in Salem and few adjoining districts. This leader was said to have been made a leader only to make statements which AIADMDK or Jayalalithaa could not have openly said.

Sachin Saar,
I can say that with near certainty that most of the comments online are from Aapi's and a few of the BJP leaning ones as well. While seasoned people like Sanjay Dixit or Ajeet Bharati has issues with the direction BJP leadership takes they seem to have taken the so called phrase "masterstroke" more seriously than the detractors of the current govt. I have pointed out the nuances of the suspension of BJP Telangana MLA Raja Singh above where the issue of him running his mouth has caused BJP harm in more ways than one.

I was watching a program on Jaipur dialogues on whether the BJP would win the 2024 elections and Sanjay Dixit was doing his analysis about current day strengths and seats that could be won by BJP. Most of the people in the super chat were just abusing the PM and calling him Maulana Modi, when Omkar chaudari mentioned that people are simply abusing without pointing any alternate on what BJP should have done, they just turned around and abused him as well. in the end most of those very handles were calling Modi and Shah as Billa and Ranga (these words were used by Priyanka Gandhi Vadra and the congress before) and BJP as Bhartiya jokers party (which was used by TDP supporters in run up to 2019).

I don't think that we have to agree with everything the BJP does (afterall its a political party that focuses on winning and will try to message for the maximum effect), but i would like to point out that the detractors of BJP almost always start by abusing the main face/candidate and then keep putting in messages saying they will not vote for that person or will be putting in NOTA or just plain that the party/candidate are loosing. Examples of the above would be kejruddin saying Modi was loosing Varanasi in 2019, or the number of people descending on the superchats during UP and Uttarakhand elections and saying that Yogi is gone or UK BJP is gone and so on so forth. Kejrudding saying that Goa CM Pramod Sawanth is not liked by BJP leadership and will be changed and many BJP guys are in touch to join that flea infested party of his. He seems to be following the same in Gujarat elections now. Create confusion and dissension among supporters of BJP and then walk away as though he didn't say any of that.

the so called media that speaks truth to power consumes copious amounts of fevicol with the money AAP funds them. there is no talk on what Lavanasur had once promised to what is delivered on the ground. When BJP is fighting elections against these kind of lecherous and treacherous folks I don't fault them on using CBI and ED to maximum effect and remember that all these cases have prima facie evidence on the wrong doers.

It would be helpful if people like Sanjay Dixit, Ajeet Bharati also focuss on the so called eco-system that is still thriving with new Magasasay Award winner ravish Kumar, the bharkas, rana Ayyubs, News laundary, Dhruv Rathee, Mohak Mangal types and make them irreleavant along with only trying to correct the BJP. They should atleast give workable solutions rather than screaming we have given 303 power so just ban or throw people in jail for perceived faults.