Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Cop martyred in Bannu; four ‘militants’ dead in CTD operation
LAKKI MARWAT: A police constable was martyred and another suffered gunshot wounds when militants attacked a police patrol in Bannu, while villagers and police repulsed yet another attack on a police post in Lakki Marwat district on the night between Friday and Saturday, officials said.

Separately, the Counter Terrorism Department (CTD) of police claimed to have killed four alleged militants during an intelligence-based operation in Sarband area on the outskirts of Peshawar on Saturday.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1730748/race- ... d-recovery
‘Race against time’: PM Shehbaz, UN seek $16 billion for Pakistan’s flood recovery
France pledges $10m in aid
French President Emmanuel Macron vowed to bring in a contribution of $10m for aid support to Pakistan.
This is insulting. Pakistan should reject this pledge. This is less than the annual whiskey budget of crore commanders.
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Let us see if TTP will abide by this decree. But I dekho they have left a loophole in there.
Ulema term attacks in Pakistan 'haraam'
KARACHI: Sixteen Ulema of the Deobandi school of thought on Monday termed the terror attacks in Pakistan "haraam" and declared them unlawful.

According to the fatwa (religious decree) signed by the Ulema, a copy of which is available with The Express Tribune, there is a need for clarification on questions raised in light of controversial statements made by anti-state groups. Referring to multiple hadith, these questions were answered by Pakistani scholars based on Islamic teachings. First, the Ulema answered the question of who can declare "jihad" and under what circumstances. They said that the leader of an Islamic state is responsible for defending the region and thus, has the power to declare jihad under the permitted circumstances.

Second, the scholars declared that those who are killed while protecting the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, such as, the police and army personnel, are without a doubt considered martyrs or shaheed. Thirdly, it was declared mandatory to follow the rules of the state and the rulings of its leaders. However, opposing the state is permitted in circumstances where its guidance is "unethical".

The Ulema maintained that creating unrest and anarchy is not permitted. "According to Shariah, rebelling against and an Islamic state is a rebellion against Islam," they added. They also highlighted the importance of uniting against anti-Islamic groups to protect the dignity and sovereignty of an Islamic state.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1730748/race- ... d-recovery
‘Race against time’: PM Shehbaz, UN seek $16 billion for Pakistan’s flood recovery

France pledges $10m in aid
French President Emmanuel Macron vowed to bring in a contribution of $10m for aid support to Pakistan.

This is insulting. Pakistan should reject this pledge. This is less than the annual whiskey budget of crore commanders.
You kuffers are liars. See how the word respond to noly Atamic Islamic country's dictate.

$8.57bn pledged so far at Geneva moot on flood damage: Marriyum

Information Minister Marriyum Aurangzeb said on Monday that donors had committed to give more than $8 billion to help Pakistan recover from last year’s devastating floods.
“The European Union pledged $93 million, Germany $88m, China $100m, Islamic Development Bank $4.2 billion, World Bank $2bn, Japan $77m, Asian Development Bank $1.5bn, USAID $100m, France $345m,” she said on Twitter. She added that the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) had pledged $1bn. In a subsequent tweet, she added that Saudi Arabia had pledged $1bn for Pakistan’s efforts to rebuild.
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Dilbu wrote:Let us see if TTP will abide by this decree. But I dekho they have left a loophole there.

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KARACHI: Sixteen Ulema of the Deobandi school of thought on Monday termed the terror attacks as haraam. They said that the leader of an Islamic state is responsible for defending the region and thus, has the power to declare jihad under the permitted circumstances.
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The Ulema maintained that creating unrest and anarchy is not permitted. "According to Shariah, rebelling against and an Islamic state is a rebellion against Islam," they added...

Multiple holes there Dilbu ji. like the ones in the caps they wear.

What about the other schools madarssas hain?

The leader of the one in Afghanistan can claim to be a bigger leader, a defeater of two super pawahs and thus the rightful defender of the region.

Now there may be only 50 shades of Grey but there are infinite shades of green, each claiming to be the purest.

The green shady ones in A'stan can declare the shady ones in Pakistan as less green and thus non-islamic. Thus the attacks immediately stop being a rebellion and become a halal jihad.
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Atmavik wrote:Watching paki media all kinds of stories are coming out abt Gen Bajwa and Gen Faiz , I don’t remember such open discussion about their predecessors. Looks like Pindi boys are losing their grip or this could be tactical to get rid of few in GHQ to bring in Munirs boys
Establishment is the biggest casualty of Imran Khans rule and his departure from the power. Getting beaten from the both sides, they have lost a lot of credibility and iron grip on the narrative. Its amazing to see small time you tube anchors question outgoing Army and ISI chief openly labeling them in all type of ways. Even while Bajwa was the chief Imran Khan's social media team and the anchors on its payroll were openly abusing the him. This is unprecedented but what is surprising is how fast this happened and how establishment exposed itself to be total powerless against it.

Who killed Arshad Sharif? Who tried to assassinate Imran Khan? I am sure it wasn't the establishment. How were Bajwa's tax details leaked? Why ISI chief has to do a media conference? Why does establishment had to leak multiple audio tapes?

They have lost their grip on the narrative and its for everyone to see.
I also think Bajwa was the most confused chief in recent memory.. hope the new guy will do a Coup soon… it’s been a while
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Atmavik wrote:
CalvinH wrote:
Establishment is the biggest casualty of Imran Khans rule and his departure from the power. Getting beaten from the both sides, they have lost a lot of credibility and iron grip on the narrative. Its amazing to see small time you tube anchors question outgoing Army and ISI chief openly labeling them in all type of ways. Even while Bajwa was the chief Imran Khan's social media team and the anchors on its payroll were openly abusing the him. This is unprecedented but what is surprising is how fast this happened and how establishment exposed itself to be total powerless against it.

Who killed Arshad Sharif? Who tried to assassinate Imran Khan? I am sure it wasn't the establishment. How were Bajwa's tax details leaked? Why ISI chief has to do a media conference? Why does establishment had to leak multiple audio tapes?

They have lost their grip on the narrative and its for everyone to see.
I also think Bajwa was the most confused chief in recent memory.. hope the new guy will do a Coup soon… it’s been a while
With India closing her borders and clamping down on long cultivated paki dalals in lootyens India, the default covert support that the pakis had expected almost as a matter of right, the covert support that was being extended even by folks who should have known better like sushma and advani and of course, the commie and congi networks has not kicked in.

This has badly hit the supply of basic agri products to the paki markets, items of daily use like onions, potatoes, grain and edible oil which was being traded largely by woke khalistani merchants in punjab via the wagah border.

The sale, destination and end use of almost every ounce of grain in punjab is being tracked via the payment systems put in place by the Modi govt.

The pakis themselves are primarily responsible for disrupting such a vital supply chain and when the situation worsened rapidly, his uniformed highness bajaod himself indicated on numerous occasions that trade with India should continue uninterrupted, a desperate call that fell on deaf Indian ears, especially after niazi miscalculated and pissed off the GoI, and shahabaz sheriff fell into the same cashmeri ditch that niazi had dug with the enthusiastic help of the paki army.

Even the well known and undeclared paki trade with India being run via dubai has become enormously expensive to the pakis

Now that the pakis have burnt all their bridges (India, afghanistan and eyeraan) and and the amerikis have got them by their testimonials via the IMF and world bank and the unwashed abduls and ayeshas are rioting in the streets, the enormity of their hopeless situation has begun to hit home.

Even an army coup has become next to impossible because their crore kammundus have graduated and become real estate agents, p0rn stars in bedroom farces, and purveyors of pathetic pizzas.

politically gluttonous and megalomaniac niazi has overplayed his weak hand and the paki awam will inevitably pay the price.

and as for niazi, a vacuously pretty face is not of much use, especially when your pathetic pathaan ass is on the line

the same goes for the pakjabi butt of sheriff....
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Hain, when did the gender change happen :?: :!: bhenc#@$

Looks like they chopped off the entire danda of the ChAOS Munir ... err or should that now be Muni ?

Yawn - Saudi Arabia mulls increasing deposit in SBP to $5 bn
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has directed the Saudi Development Fund (SDF) to study increasing the deposit amount in the State of Bank of Pakistan (SBP) to $5 billion, the Saudi Press Agency (SPA) reported on Tuesday.

“His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Crown Prince and Prime Minister, has directed to study augmenting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s investments in the sisterly Islamic Republic of Pakistan which have previously been announced on August 25, 2022, to reach $10 billion,” it said.
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Crown Prince and Prime Minister, has directed to study augmenting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s investments in the sisterly Islamic Republic of Pakistan which have previously been announced on August 25, 2022, to reach $10 billion,”
What is there to study so much about it, hainji? There is a black hole and you have to throw the billions into it. Poof! It disappears and the unwashed are back with the begging bowl after 6 months.
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This is outrageous. What's this nonsense of pledging and studying? Humiliation of atami takhat. My strategic advice to Pakistan is to pledge to return loans when IMF comes begging for its money and to assure Saudi of studying returning its money and humiliate the prince by not sending the prime minister to pick him up from the airport. Let the prince drive his own car and reach the hotel.
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Last year was the year of begging in the name of floods... can Bakistan make this year the year of begging in the name of the Fibre?

Where is the moral fibre of the world hainji, that it will let poor bakis to starve of fiber in their diet, due to loss of textile fibre industry :((

Yawn - 7 million people laid off in textile industry, associations claim
About seven million people in textile and textile-related industries have been laid off due to dwindling exports and the government’s failure to end the economic crisis, representatives of the value-added textile associations said in a joint press conference on Monday.

The current government does not have any policy to end the various crises affecting textile producers and exporters, they said. The industry is on the verge of closure as many units have already closed down. Several others are planning to either shut down or shift their production abroad.

Textile factories are being deprived of necessary raw material and accessories. Letters of credit worth as low as $5,000 are being refused, which has hit in-progress export orders of $500,000 per consignment. It’s causing severe disruption and production delays and has led to the cancellation of export orders.
On the plus side the Jihadistan army will exceed it's recruiting targets of non-uniformed non-state assets for pan-global activities.
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TSP should demand that the current IMF programme, next IMF programme and the one after that which will be required by Q3 2023, to be processed together and paid in advance. All this is because of climate change and the world will still be owing another $50 billion to TSP even after these payments. A nuclear power cannot be kept waiting forever.
Pakistan will need another IMF bailout programme after current one ends: Miftah Ismail
Former finance minister Miftah Ismail believes that Pakistan will have to secure another bailout programme from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) after the current one ends.

Pakistan can avert the risk of default if the international lender concedes to resume its current programme, the former finance minister said, during Geo News show Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Kay Saath.

The PML-N leader said the risk of default will not subside without IMF support. The rising dollar demand is due to its purchase to hedge against the fear of default, he explained.
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Couple of months back i was checking out when violent unrest will start because of inflation.

The economist and IMF had developed couple models when general unrest and violence would start.

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fa ... t-chen.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/202301090538 ... some-of-it

https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2014/12 ... -conflict/

I hope the gov.in has its own models with in depth parameters on tribal and sectarianism cockoos on the toilet, to predict and aggravate if possible. 8)
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This article will make sense in the case of any normal country but this is TSP we are talking about and hence it reads like an impractical joke.
The current crisis could be an opportunity for Pakistan — but can it take advantage?
Pakistan is in the midst of perhaps the most serious crisis it has faced since 1971. The political economy has been ripped to shreds through self-inflicted wounds, its international stature is down in the dumps, and if the country was listed in the stock market, its stock would be categorised as a penny stock.

But crises are opportunities and amidst the doom and gloom, it is important to recognise that societies that have experienced much more turbulence and destruction have not only recovered, but become powerful, influential nations in the international community.

The plethora of challenges faced by Pakistan today do not require rocket science or significant innovation to resolve. The ongoing crisis is a result of years of irrational policies pursued across the political, economic and foreign policy domains.

The solution then is to fundamentally alter the status quo in three key domains: foreign policy, economy, and governance.
For far too long, Pakistani elites have tried to punch above their weight in the international arena, not recognising that Pakistan is, at the best of times, a middle-power. This bravado has led the country’s elites, particularly its military establishment, to develop and execute a foreign policy that is fundamentally at odds with the hard and soft power capabilities it possesses.

Given the ongoing crisis, Pakistan must adopt strategic patience in foreign policy, where the country’s elites accept that they will be unable to, at least for the foreseeable future, achieve core foreign policy and strategic goals.

This policy is similar to what Pakistan’s strategic ally China followed for decades, with the term “hide your strength, bide your time” summing up the country’s foreign policy approach. During this period, Chinese elites focused on building their domestic economic, technological and human capital capabilities, even if it meant building closer ties with Taiwan — a country China does not even formally recognise.

Pakistan must follow a similar approach, focusing on the task at hand at home and adopting a pragmatic posture with India, its archrival. In the near-term, the country must make concerted attempts to normalise ties with Delhi, even as it gets overtaken by a far-right Hindutva ideology. :((

Trade, investment, and integration with India provide significant near-term benefits to Pakistan and while Kashmir remains a core dispute, Pakistan’s elites must recognise that they are in no position to make headway on this issue given the decline of Pakistan’s own capabilities and standing.
Patience on the foreign policy front, paired with a slow and steady normalisation of ties with India, is unlikely to yield any positives so long as the economic status quo holds.

To survive and thrive for the next 75 years, Pakistan must abandon reckless and irrational economic policies its elites have adopted for decades. This means ending the real estate casino economy, getting rid of policies that distort markets, incentivising investment in productive, export-oriented sectors, and redirecting resources to benefit the many, not the few.
Evidence from around the world, including Pakistan, shows that decentralised governance is the most effective way to improve outcomes in terms of security, social welfare, and economic development. While power has been devolved to the provinces, Pakistan continues to lack a robust system of local governance where communities make decisions about their own taxes, development, education, and security.

Decentralisation will not only empower local communities and create competition across the country for better delivery, it will also create a pipeline of talent in the political domain. Over time, such a process would bring to the forefront leaders who have experience in governance from the ground up — this is sorely needed in a country that continues to recycle old faces in new parties, expecting different results.
To most readers, the above suggestions may read as obvious. And that is the whole point. Pakistan’s problems may seem complicated, but the solution to them is actually quite ordinary. The issue at hand is the sustained irrationality of Pakistan’s ruling elites. If they continue to ignore obvious solutions, Pakistan’s survival over the next 75 years will require a miracle.
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^ The RAPE who wrote the above ignores (or more accurately wilfully hides) the plain fact that there is no irrationality in the behaviour and actions by the Elite (the faujis and the feudals).

It is precisely what they do, and have been doing ever since paki land was created, to ensure that they and only they are and will remain the paki 'Elite'
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Dilbu wrote:
Crown Prince and Prime Minister, has directed to study augmenting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s investments in the sisterly Islamic Republic of Pakistan which have previously been announced on August 25, 2022, to reach $10 billion,”
What is there to study so much about it, hainji? There is a black hole and you have to throw the billions into it. Poof! It disappears and the unwashed are back with the begging bowl after 6 months.
the saudis are delaying the decision using the ploy of a "study", hoping that in the meantime, other alms givers may step in and obviate the need for the saudi money to support these paki losers
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Meanwhile discussions on CNBC Pakistan

https://twitter.com/pakistan_untold/sta ... 9175371776
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Vadivel wrote:Couple of months back i was checking out when violent unrest will start because of inflation

I hope the gov.in has its own models with in depth parameters on tribal and sectarianism cockoos on the toilet, to predict and aggravate if possible. 8)
Revolts challenging and overthrowing those in power because of hunger are usually led by the middle class and not the poor class. Pakistan lacks a sizeable middle class for this.

Poor in the subcontinent just die when extreme hunger sweeps them instead of attacking those in power and looting them. But we are in different times. In Pakistan there is one thing is in place for this. The sizeable number of rich who openly flaunt their riches. What poor lack is precedent, a leader and one good incident that starts it. One good incident and poor will organize quickly to claim maal-e-ghanimat.
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People who converted to save themselves from death are now dying of hunger
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TSP is basically asking IMF to release funds without waiting to check whether its conditions are fulfilled. The excuse is flood devastation.
Pakistan asks IMF for restructuring ‘pause’
GENEVA/ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s prime minister on Monday asked the IMF for a pause in its demands for economic reforms before releasing more financial aid, as the country tries to rebuild after catastrophic floods.

Shehbaz Sharif said he was trying to persuade the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to give Islamabad some breathing space as it tackles the “nightmarish” situation. The global lender wants Pakistan to withdraw remaining subsidies on petroleum products and electricity, aimed at helping the masses.
He said Pakistan was complying with the IMF´s conditions “as best as possible” but asked “how on Earth” the additional burdens could be shouldered by the country´s poorest. “Yet we are committed to IMF´s programme. We will do everything to comply with the terms and conditions. Though I am constantly trying to persuade them: please give us a pause,” he said.

Shehbaz spoke with IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva on Saturday and asked her to “kindly be considerate and compassionate and give us some breathing space”, he said. “This is an ongoing dialogue. I´m sure one day soon we will be able to convince them through logic and through facts.
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CalvinH wrote:
Vadivel wrote:Couple of months back i was checking out when violent unrest will start because of inflation

I hope the gov.in has its own models with in depth parameters on tribal and sectarianism cockoos on the toilet, to predict and aggravate if possible. 8)
Revolts challenging and overthrowing those in power because of hunger are usually led by the middle class and not the poor class. Pakistan lacks a sizeable middle class for this.

Poor in the subcontinent just die when extreme hunger sweeps them instead of attacking those in power and looting them. But we are in different times. In Pakistan there is one thing is in place for this. The sizeable number of rich who openly flaunt their riches. What poor lack is precedent, a leader and one good incident that starts it. One good incident and poor will organize quickly to claim maal-e-ghanimat.
I think BRF should come out with its own model on unrest and violence in Toilet/Beedi/China our short term adversaries.

There is already the BRF coup model for toilet establishment, need one for the civilians.
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Dilbu wrote:...
Shehbaz spoke with IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva on Saturday and asked her to “kindly be considerate and compassionate and give us some breathing space”, he said. “This is an ongoing dialogue. I´m sure one day soon we will be able to convince them through logic and through facts.
:lol: What he means is that they are doing exactly what beggars do... continually stalking and bleating to wear down the patience of the prospective donor
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It was only a matter of time before the TSP link in this incident emerged. The only question is whether this is a deliberately orchestrated threat. Pliss to provide funds to us or else nuke maal will reach western cities.
Uranium package, allegedly originated in Pakistan, seized by British police at Heathrow
British police said on Tuesday they had opened an investigation into a package containing uranium that was seized at London’s Heathrow Airport.

The package was discovered by border agents during a routine search on December 29, police said.

The package had originated in Pakistan and arrived on a flight from Oman, according to The Sun, which first reported the story.

The uranium was found in a shipment of scrap metal and investigators were looking into whether it was the result of “poor handling” in Pakistan, the BBC reported.
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You beat me to it Saar, the report in the tabloid seems to have been halal'd by the BBC.
AQK network iirc was unearthed after his "collaboration" with Mullah land Iran.
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Pakis need to understand that India decisively left them behind from 2010 onwards.

Now India's eye is firmly fixed on China and our defence spending is increasing accordingly. It will eventually hit $200 billion per year. The Pakis with their tiny economy and tiny population (relatively) cannot play this game.

They think they are in an "arms race" with us and we don't even know they are in the racetrack. This is a ruinous folly by them. It will suck all the money out of the system that should be used for roads, railways, electricity, ports, water supply. And without these investments they will fall further and further behind us.
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https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... c-u-s-2023
Pak Army set to disappoint PRC and the U.S. in 2023
Madhav Nalapat, January 7, 2023

VISHAKAPATNAM: Since the 1960s, GHQ Rawalpindi has been supported enthusiastically by the United States and China. Despite the two having drifted apart since the takeover of the CCP by Xi Jinping in 2012, the two continue to indulge the Pakistan military. While in the past, it was the US that played Santa Claus, not to the people of Pakistan but to the men in khaki. Around 2011, it became obvious even to its most ardent backers in Washington that the Pakistan Army was sabotaging efforts by US forces to finish off the Taliban. The consequence was that the US, in effect, after a decade of seeking to eliminate the Taliban, began seeking a deal with that collective of armed zealots, a process that it was expected could be carried out with the help of GHQ Rawalpindi. Despite a few pungent words every now and then directed at the men in khaki, in practice US assistance continued to be directed towards that force in an ultimately futile effort at securing a respectable peace agreement between the NATO-backed Afghan government and the Taliban. In the manner of an arsonist taking along a fire truck without water, each disaster in which it had played a significant role presented an opportunity to showcase GHQ Rawalpindi as necessary to put out the fires of terror strikes and the killing of Afghan and Coalition forces by the Taliban and its associate groups. The Santa in Beijing continues to shower the army, navy and air force of GHQ Rawalpindi with assistance, following in the footsteps of the US by not bothering about the people of Pakistan. For both Washington and Beijing, only GHQ Rawalpindi counts and not the rest of the population, least of all the civilian leadership of the country.
In the US calculus, the Pakistan Army offered a pathway to an exit from Afghanistan in a manner different from the abandoning of South Vietnam in 1975. For China, that military is a useful instrument to keep India focused on its western border, thereby having to pay less attention to the much greater threat that the country is facing across the Himalayan massif from a PLA that had been given the same freedom under Xi that it had enjoyed under Mao during the early years of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the 1960s. Much effort was lavished within the higher ranks of the Pakistan military on ensuring an accommodative and bountiful attitude from the US and China. From the start, given his fascination with soldiery, Xi in particular has poured money into Pakistan, including by coming up with a project that had no chance of success from inception, the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). It was the initiation of the CPEC that convinced many analysts in India that it was a futile quest to chase after a collaborative relationship with China, at least so long as Xi was in charge of the CCP. Meanwhile, the Pakistan Army had what it thought was a stroke of luck, when a US politician, who had been a stout backer of the men in khaki throughout his three decades as a Senator took over in 2021 as President of the US. Joe Biden did not disappoint such hopes. His White House reopened channels that had been shut under Donald Trump. Once Biden became the principal architect of the NATO proxy war against Russia by early 2022, the White House saw a cosying up to GHQ Rawalpindi as enabling the US to withdraw from Afghanistan through the deal brokered by Trump between the US and the Taliban at Doha the previous year. Despite his tough guy exterior, Trump is a pacifist at heart who abhors war, and he was prepared to cut and run from Afghanistan in the same way as he had earlier abandoned the Kurds to the non-existent mercies of R.T. Erdogan.Fortunately for him, it was Biden and not himself that actually carried out that surrender, ostensibly to focus on China, but in reality to concentrate on kneecapping not China but Russia. In a pattern that ought to have become familiar since the 1990s, the 15 August 2021 handover by the US of Afghanistan to the Taliban saw GHQ take the bounty offered but failing to deliver the outcomes expected. Those in the White House, State and NSA, who had been credulous enough to trust Pakistan to keep their interests in mind during any negotiation with the Taliban, saw the inevitable take place. That collection of militias systematically hunted down and killed or imprisoned NATO-leaning Afghans after the 2021 takeover, assurances of their safety notwithstanding. The Taliban had indeed changed since they had been turfed out of power by US and Afghan forces in 2001, but for the worse.
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Dilbu wrote:TSP is basically asking IMF to release funds without waiting to check whether its conditions are fulfilled. The excuse is flood devastation.
Pakistan asks IMF for restructuring ‘pause’
There is very low trust between IMF and TSP. In many of its earlier programs, TSP said that once funds were released they would carry out reforms. That went the way of Unkil payments for GOAT. They took the money and did whatever they wanted.

Now IMF is insisting that legislation be passed to enforce its conditions even before they release the money. The previous trick of "give us money and we will carry out your conditions" is not working with Motorma Georgieva
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Shaktimaan wrote:Pakis need to understand that India decisively left them behind from 2010 onwards.
India had left them behind in the 90s.

It took our political leadership some 25 years to realize this, it took the current dispensation to decisively demonstrate that (hear the Doval's speech in Vivekananda Foundation).

Their country has not yet come to terms with it and likely never will. Their strategic analcysts are still giving interviews that they will make India a "sea locked country". Taliban-Pakistan bhai bhai, taliban will defend Pakistan, Principled stand on Cashmere, take war to enemy, our culture is soup-e-rear etc etc. Probably fed and encouraged by AMonkeyAyesha types on this side.

Meanwhile there is riots on the streets for atta.
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Dilbu wrote:It was only a matter of time before the TSP link in this incident emerged. The only question is whether this is a deliberately orchestrated threat. Pliss to provide funds to us or else nuke maal will reach western cities.
Uranium package, allegedly originated in Pakistan, seized by British police at Heathrow
Time for Pakistan to organize another Geneva conference to demand $5B to secure uranium supply chain.
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Dilbu wrote:It was only a matter of time before the TSP link in this incident emerged. The only question is whether this is a deliberately orchestrated threat. Pliss to provide funds to us or else nuke maal will reach western cities.
Uranium package, allegedly originated in Pakistan, seized by British police at Heathrow
British police said on Tuesday they had opened an investigation into a package containing uranium that was seized at London’s Heathrow Airport.

The package was discovered by border agents during a routine search on December 29, police said.

The package had originated in Pakistan and arrived on a flight from Oman, according to The Sun, which first reported the story.

The uranium was found in a shipment of scrap metal and investigators were looking into whether it was the result of “poor handling” in Pakistan, the BBC reported.

Dilbu, THis could be pro quid quo for the $9B aid for flood relief.
It could be material for a dirty bomb in Ukraine.
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vimal wrote:People who converted to save themselves from death are now dying of hunger
:D
No, they are only fulfilling ZAB's hadees: 'Ghaas khayenge, Bum banayenge'. Remember in Pakiland, the grass is always 'greener'!
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CalvinH wrote:
Vadivel wrote:Couple of months back i was checking out when violent unrest will start because of inflation

I hope the gov.in has its own models with in depth parameters on tribal and sectarianism cockoos on the toilet, to predict and aggravate if possible. 8)
Revolts challenging and overthrowing those in power because of hunger are usually led by the middle class and not the poor class. Pakistan lacks a sizeable middle class for this.
While Bakistan might lack a sizeable middle class, it more than makes up a sizeable radicalised Islamic nut job class, with firearms and the willingness for shahadat. In Sri Lanka, people protested on the streets with banners and at the most occupied the President's house, burned down a couple of private residences. But for TFTA Pakistanis, that would be below their H&D. It is only a matter of time before we see AK Phyrr happening all over the place, egged on by ambitious mullahs.
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ramana wrote:
Dilbu wrote:It was only a matter of time before the TSP link in this incident emerged. The only question is whether this is a deliberately orchestrated threat. Pliss to provide funds to us or else nuke maal will reach western cities.
Uranium package, allegedly originated in Pakistan, seized by British police at Heathrow

Dilbu, THis could be pro quid quo for the $9B aid for flood relief.
It could be material for a dirty bomb in Ukraine.
Welcome to the '1001 Pakistani Nights' - a different begging story every night. The flood relief story was the previous night's story. Has to be a new story now, else will get halaled.
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RCase wrote:
CalvinH wrote:
Revolts challenging and overthrowing those in power because of hunger are usually led by the middle class and not the poor class. Pakistan lacks a sizeable middle class for this.
While Bakistan might lack a sizeable middle class, it more than makes up a sizeable radicalised Islamic nut job class, with firearms and the willingness for shahadat. In Sri Lanka, people protested on the streets with banners and at the most occupied the President's house, burned down a couple of private residences. But for TFTA Pakistanis, that would be below their H&D. It is only a matter of time before we see AK Phyrr happening all over the place, egged on by ambitious mullahs.

Agreed. Proliferation of weapons, the irrationality behind the weapon are definite plusses. However, the Mullah's are part of the elite/ rent seekers/ parasitic class which includes political parties, Army and Media. Without a breakdown between the elites, this will not lead to a civil war. There is a veritable "Moot Army" to prevent another Afghanistan with WMD.
Also, Paki elites saw this happening from a mile way and segregated themselves in walled cities and presumably redundant supply chains. A good question/ information segment from someone like Major Gaurav Arya, would be to make public, details on how pakjabis keep themselves supplied to the people interested in basic products such as food/ fuel etc.

Special mention has to be made of the Gora's, who seem to have perfected Taqqiya with these "insert term here" by feigning fascination, compassion , terming them as Martial races..etc. And the fact that they have kept this up for almost 200 years now. Credit to where it is due. All to continue their war against Asia (China, India, Russia - termed recently as part of the world’s barbaric ‘jungle’ by a EU official). These are the cretins that have created this "Warg" and they will continue to sustain the beasts in the jungle so that Europe continues to be the Garden.
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Ramanaji, if the Uranium was for Ukraine then UKstan would have been more discreet in the handling of this issue. A package with ‘harmless’ quantity of Uranium conveniently discovered during routine security check is too easy to digest. Who would ship Uranium with such a lazy attitude?

On the other hand, this could also be an anticipatory bail in case a dirty bomb finds its way to Ukraine. The west can then say look we had intercepted these from non state actors a few months back. Almost like the Taliban Navy TSP is fighting time and again.
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Ramanji and Dilbuji
Scrap metal + traces of Uranium
Could it be that a RTA or accident or attack on the Army vehicle carrying something!!
Pakis being Pakis conveniently sold as scrap metal after whatever they could retrieve from the crash site
But sending material for dirty bomb when in Economic Doldrums that's ultimate sin no!
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Ji, nobody airlifts scrap metal.
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UAE refused to give money to Bhikhari in chief Munir.

So now chhota Sharif has gone to the UAE with some new bahaana.

Within two days.

They have thrown all ghairat to the dogs now.
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TSP is offering government owned entities to UAE in exchange of cash. Remains to be seen if they will accept it.
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