India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 21 Jun 2023 02:47

Not really. Khalistanis destroyed the image of Sikhs in India. They are doing the same in Canada.

They may not realise it but there is a loss of patience with Sikh politics in Canada, especially as Trudeau’s popularity plummets.

Or perhaps they do. Nothing like a besieged mentality in a minority to empower their ‘leaders’.

Too bad. There are many Sikhs who want nothing to do with khalistanis or even gurdwaras now.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 21 Jun 2023 02:51

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/russia-sa ... -1.6441658

Canada’s foreign policy is going great guns and setting a benchmark: that’s the third major power where relations are collapsing and at an all time low: China, India and now Russia. That’s about 30% of humanity..

I wonder what their thinking is. The average Canadian always comes across as mild mannered, pleasant person but their police are anything but.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 21 Jun 2023 17:01

There was a hired killing in Southall many years ago, the victim was Tarsem Singh Purewal.
Des Pardes was/is a khalistani paper.
Killers were never found. One theory was that his paper had named the victim of a rape and the girls family wanted him dead.
This is Surrey, BC murder will probably be a case of personal/family emnity.

https://www.google.com/search?q=des+par ... s-wiz-serp

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 21 Jun 2023 17:39

Haresh wrote:There was a hired killing in Southall many years ago, the victim was Tarsem Singh Purewal.
Des Pardes was/is a khalistani paper.
Killers were never found. One theory was that his paper had named the victim of a rape and the girls family wanted him dead.
This Surrey, BC murder will probably be a case of personal/family vendetta.

https://www.google.com/search?q=des+par ... s-wiz-serp

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Jun 2023 18:05

sanjaykumar wrote:Not really. Khalistanis destroyed the image of Sikhs in India. They are doing the same in Canada.

They may not realise it but there is a loss of patience with Sikh politics in Canada, especially as Trudeau’s popularity plummets.

Or perhaps they do. Nothing like a besieged mentality in a minority to empower their ‘leaders’.

Too bad. There are many Sikhs who want nothing to do with khalistanis or even gurdwaras now.

Trudeau's popularity was always doomed to plummet -- because unlike Biden who's been commanding an unlimited spending budget thanks to the US Dollar being world's reserve currency, the Trudeau govt has no similar brahmastra.

While Biden was ratcheting up spending with "Build Back Better" and other sops to secure his Vote Banks, all Trudeau's govt has been able to do is to double down on "more immigration", imagining this to be their equivalent brahmastra, as if this can somehow buy prosperity and lull voters into acquiescence.

Sorry, but immigration doesn't produce the same kind of immediate stimulus that direct govt spending does, and in the near term only produces a glut of people. So Trudeau's 3rd-rate gambit is flopping miserably compared to Biden's brazen vote-buying spree.
I'd like to say Trudeau has the advantage of not being senile like Biden, but his intellect is neck-in-neck with Kamala and Pappu.
He's certainly not his father's son.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Jun 2023 19:04

And another thing - Canada's Leftists politicians sit atop a very fractious coalition of contradictory groups:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/06/cana ... ans-agenda

What do you do when your Muslim Vote Bank declares war on your LGBTQ+ Vote Bank?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 22 Jun 2023 16:01

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 22 Jun 2023 16:10

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 23 Jun 2023 18:05

Today is the 38th Anniversary of the Kanishka Bombing wherein Canada based terrorists killed 329 souls, bulk of them Canadian citizens. And the Canadian Govt's role in the subsequent investigation resulted in fingers getting pointed at the Canadian Govt itself for what seemed to be an active cover-up.
Shared some thoughts on the same.

Blog: West and Terror - The Story of the Kanishka Bombing
Twitter Link

In late 1984, at least two informers reported to authorities on the first abortive plot to bomb Air India Flight 182, which flew out of Montreal’s Mirabel International Airport at that time. In August 1984, the known criminal Gerry Boudreault claimed that Talwinder Parmar showed him a suitcase stuffed with $200,000, payment to plant a bomb. He refused to do so.

Then in September, in an attempt to get his sentence for theft and fraud reduced, Harmail Singh Grewal of Vancouver told the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of the plot to bomb the flight from Montreal.

What did the Canadians do?

They fcuking DISMISSED these two reports pointing to the SAME plot from two UNRELATED sources as UNRELIABLE.

Finally, in early 1985, the CSIS obtained a court order to place Parmar under surveillance for one year. On 09 June 1985, a police informer in Hamilton reported that Parmar and Bagri had visited the Malton Sikh Gurudwara, warning the faithful that “it would be unsafe” to fly Air India.

The CSIS / RCMP couldn’t have asked for any more red flags pointing towards a plot to bomb an Air India flight out of Canada. But nope, nothing was done.

Apparently, James Bartleman, then Director General of the Intelligence & Security Bureau of the CSIS External Affairs Division, told the Air India Commission that he had seen secret info which “indicated that Flight 182 would be targeted.”

Now intelligence cannot get any more pointed than this. But when he brought this same info to the notice of an RCMP official, Bartleman testified that ‘he was met with a hostile reception’.

Mind you, he was a DG in the CSIS!

And then we are to believe it was mere inter agency turf wars at play!

Sorry, I refuse to believe that. Just as I suspect, the 329 departed souls would refuse too.

In his verdict, Justice Josephson cited “unacceptable negligence” by CSIS when hundreds of wiretaps of the suspects were destroyed. Of the 210 wiretaps that were recorded during the months before and after the bombing, 156 were erased.

Amazingly, nay, ‘Funnily’, these tapes continued to be erased even after the terrorists had become the primary suspects in the bombing! Because the original wiretap records were erased, they were inadmissible as evidence in court.

In a lame excuse,CSIS claimed the wiretap recordings contained no relevant information, but an RCMP memo states that “There is a strong likelihood that had CSIS retained the tapes between March and August 1985, that a successful prosecution of at least some of principals in both bombings could have been undertaken.”

This was not the only part of the aviation security lapses by the Canadian law enforcement agencies, Justice Major stated. He referred to one summer employee, Brian Simpson, who ‘boarded Flight 182 at Pearson International Airport in Toronto without detection on the afternoon of June 22, 1985’ and this person ‘had complete access to the aircraft from the cockpit to the equipment at the rear.’

Tragic?

NO.

The saddest part to Major was that during testimonies the ‘government counsel’ tried ‘to discredit this witness.’ Simpson’s evidence, he said, ‘revealed numerous weaknesses in security.’ I think I’ve said enough. Time to stop now, since my blood is still boiling at this wilful murder.

Yes, that’s how I look at it – Wilful.

Wilful, because it could have easily been prevented.
Wilful, because the perps could easily have been convicted.
Wilful, because petty egos, masquerading as ‘turf wars’ caused the loss of 329 souls.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 23 Jun 2023 22:28

Canadian Deep State deliberately allowed Air India 182 Kanishka flight bombing?

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 23 Jun 2023 23:29

The Kanishka bombing and the subsequent bungling of its investigation has hallmarks of the involvement of Canadian government officials at the highest levels. Canada also allows its territory to be used to train terrorists with arms, run camps and provide funding.

This is a text book definition of State sponsored terrorism.

It is high time we introduce in the UN that Canada be proscribed for being a state that sponsors terror in the same league as Porkistan and erstwhile Libya. It will be defeated off course but a marker will be laid down.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 23 Jun 2023 23:55

I would like to know why the Canadian politicians are hell-bent on rubbing India the wrong way. cui bono?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Jun 2023 00:17

Vayutuvan wrote:I would like to know why the Canadian politicians are hell-bent on rubbing India the wrong way. cui bono?

Do they need the traction with their jihadi voters and supporters...... pakis, khalistanis, other jihadis, and the like

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 24 Jun 2023 00:44

Tanaji wrote:The Kanishka bombing and the subsequent bungling of its investigation has hallmarks of the involvement of Canadian government officials at the highest levels. Canada also allows its territory to be used to train terrorists with arms, run camps and provide funding.

This is a text book definition of State sponsored terrorism.

It is high time we introduce in the UN that Canada be proscribed for being a state that sponsors terror in the same league as Porkistan and erstwhile Libya. It will be defeated off course but a marker will be laid down.

Like I said, Canada's (Anglo) establishment are just running a human trafficking operation. They needed to import more foreign sepoys to keep the French down. Since then, they've become further addicted to Vote Bank politics. Human traffickers don't care about the human cargo they traffick in, nor do they relish having to look after them, because it's seen as a complication to their lives.

They don't mind getting all stoked up about Ukraine, though. Ukrainians and Punjabis are tied for 4th-largest V̶o̶t̶e̶ B̶a̶n̶k̶ ethnic group in Canada (1st and 2nd place belong to the Anglos and French themselves)

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 24 Jun 2023 01:24

Thanks Sanmanji, thats an interesting take. Also I am surprised that Punjabis are 4th largest, given the hold they have on the public discourse, I would have expected them to be in top 2-3.

It has been proved time and again that supporting separatists inevitably leads to serious blow back. Be it Indira or be it the Porkis, both have suffered. What are the Anglos thinking? How do they think it will end well for them? Trudeau has gone full restart retard… Jagmeet Singh seems to have aspirations of being some sort of king maker… surely at some point the Anglo population is going to get fed up? They have already ticked off nearly a third of humanity….

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 24 Jun 2023 07:53

Tanaji wrote:It has been proved time and again that supporting separatists inevitably leads to serious blow back.

It already led to blowback in 1985 when Kanishka flight was blown up and 280 Canadian citizens were killed. Canada's Anglo establishment didn't fret too much, because it wasn't their loved ones killed. Canadian society treated the incident as a foreign tragedy where foreigners were killed. A bewildered Indo-Canadian community didn't muster any backlash against that, and largely just suffered in shock and silence. So it's the strong who prevail, while the weak submit or perish. That's the law of nature.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 24 Jun 2023 21:59

^^^
That, unfortunately, rings very true. The Air India terrorist bombing, doesn't invoke much empathy or affinity, considering the majority of victims were Canadian citizens, many of them born in Canada. It is rarely a reference point when the issue of terrorism is brought up. The Canadian media and government are much more likely to mention Hizbol, Hamas, PLO, IRA, Iran, Iraq, Al Qaeda etc, than the Air India bombing. There are honourable exceptions like CBC broadcaster Terry Milewski ( whose book "Blood for Blood" about the Khalistan movement I intend to buy!) and the odd commentator. But it's not part of the consciousness of the average Canadian, and the elite as you put it, must take the major blame for this. Interestingly, there were about 10 Caucasians onboard the doomed flight, we don't hear too much about them or their families. This is likely part of the cover up as well.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 25 Jun 2023 01:07

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 25 Jun 2023 01:35

Varoon Shekhar wrote:^^^
That, unfortunately, rings very true. The Air India terrorist bombing, doesn't invoke much empathy or affinity, considering the majority of victims were Canadian citizens, many of them born in Canada. It is rarely a reference point when the issue of terrorism is brought up. The Canadian media and government are much more likely to mention Hizbol, Hamas, PLO, IRA, Iran, Iraq, Al Qaeda etc, than the Air India bombing. There are honourable exceptions like CBC broadcaster Terry Milewski ( whose book "Blood for Blood" about the Khalistan movement I intend to buy!) and the odd commentator. But it's not part of the consciousness of the average Canadian, and the elite as you put it, must take the major blame for this. Interestingly, there were about 10 Caucasians onboard the doomed flight, we don't hear too much about them or their families. This is likely part of the cover up as well.

Why not read it on line?
https://archive.org/details/blood-for-b ... 7/mode/1up
Gautam

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 26 Jun 2023 06:51

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 26 Jun 2023 23:01

This CBC/Radio Canada report directly imputes the murder to India, and makes sweeping statement on "long history of anti-Sikh violence" in India. Canada is rapidly rolling down to a nut-case nation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/canada/t ... 8#comments

Many attendees at Sunday's funeral said they believe Nijjar's death is a result of foreign interference from India.

While police have acknowledged the allegations of interference stemming from the attack, investigators said they have not found such a link to India at this point, and believe there is no danger to the broader Sikh community in Canada.

A report released earlier this month by Canada's national security adviser named India as a major actor in foreign interference — including election meddling and disinformation campaigns on social media.

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 26 Jun 2023 23:19

As Khushwant Singh wrote
The only place where khalistan exists is in the sikhs heads

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 26 Jun 2023 23:56

In 35 odd years, not one single individual, who could be conceivably labelled an " Indian agent" has ever been uncovered and apprehended by law enforcement or Canadian security. Almost all these accusations are merely a case of Sikhs projecting their own fratricide and insecurity onto India. And some stupid or naive Canadian journalist giving them attention and some semblance of credibility.

Even a spirited opponent of Khalistanis like the journalist Tara Singh Hayer was compelled to blame one of the violent attacks against him, on "Indian agents". It didn't help him in the end, as he was eventually killed by those selfsame Khalistanis.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 27 Jun 2023 00:05

On a brighter note the CBC webpage (CBC.com followed by " India" in the search function), has articles about recycling of Canadian waste plastic in India. I didn't realise Canada was sending such waste to India. At least some of it is turned into useful tissue for Indian use.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 28 Jun 2023 13:36

Canada rolling out draconian laws on speech and online content:

So will ban on 'hate speech' include Khalistani hate speech? Or will Trudeau excuse that?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 10:49

Khalistanis targeting our diplomatic personnel, naming them as "killers" on wanted-posters:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 11:57

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 18:51

9 out of 11 most wanted gangsters in Canada's province of BC have Punjabi names:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-police-agenci ... -1.6012781

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 04 Jul 2023 20:41

Not one Singh there.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 04 Jul 2023 21:38

Not sure people here are familiar with this.

https://www.panthpunjab.org/contributors

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 04 Jul 2023 23:18

sanjaykumar wrote:Not one Singh there.

Cut sikhs

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 04 Jul 2023 23:32

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 05 Jul 2023 06:25

sanjaykumar wrote:

They shaved. There are some sikhs who don't keep their kesh.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 05 Jul 2023 07:19

The point I was making is just as every terrorist Pakistani is from South Asia, every Sikh who is arraigned dispenses with the otherwise obligatory Singh.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 05 Jul 2023 08:46

Not necessarily,

Many Sikhs I know either have Singh as a middle name or last name.

Therefore, the Chema, Dhaliwal and Gill on the list above can easily have the middle name as Singh.

It's just that, the Canadian system only recorded first and last names only.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 05 Jul 2023 08:49

What's amusing to note on this thread is that Canada has stopped being an independent nation and is exclusively being seen as an extension of inter Sikh politics lense by India.

The Canadians by reducing themselves to such a level have shown themselves to a non serious nation.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 06 Jul 2023 16:26

While Indian Pappu stays silent on his grandma, Canadian Pappu foolishly blurts:

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 07 Jul 2023 08:51

Pratyush wrote:What's amusing to note on this thread is that Canada has stopped being an independent nation and is exclusively being seen as an extension of inter Sikh politics lense by India.

The Canadians by reducing themselves to such a level have shown themselves to a non serious nation.

For all practical purposes, from an Indian PoV, they are just another state of the US.

Despite being such a huge land mass, more than 90 percent of Canadians live within 150 miles of the US border.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 08 Jul 2023 19:32

KL Dubey · Post by **KL Dubey** » 09 Jul 2023 00:25

sanjaykumar wrote:Not one Singh there.

In western countries "Singh" often becomes their middle name/middle initial, and their clan/ancestral place name becomes their surname. Nothing to do with hiding their identity. In government announcements the middle name is usually not mentioned.

I know many khatri sikhs who use their ancestral clan/place names as surnames (like Dhingra, Kapoor, Arora etc) just like the punjabi hindus. They will usually take "S" as middle initial if living in the US.

All the indian fellows in the lineup are jat sikhs.