Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Incidentally there is a blonde holding a larger umbrella on the other side....

Either Showbaaz turned to the wrong side (just like jihadistan).. or he was purposely issued a smaller umbrella.. in which case jeeehard
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Bakistan FM was very firm on no new taxes last week

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2423410/go ... h-imf-deal
Minister for Finance and Revenue Senator Mohammad Ishaq Dar on Saturday informed the National Assembly that Pakistan had agreed to raise a further Rs215 billion in new taxes after three-day parleys with the officials of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to complete the 9th review under the Extended Fund Facility (EFF), pending due to the country’s external financing gap.

"Pakistan and IMF had detailed negotiations for the last three days as a last effort to complete the pending review," he told parliament.

For the fiscal year starting next month, Pakistan will raise a further 215 billion rupees ($752 million) in new tax and cut 85 billion rupees in spending, as well as a number of other measures to shrink the fiscal deficit, he said.

He made it clear that this reduction will not affect the annual development plan as well as salaries and pensions of government employees, claiming that IMF has agreed to our stand. :lol: #Fauj will lamp post him if he touches their salaries and pensions#

"We have ensured that the new tax will not affect the poor," he claimed, and said the petrol levy will be raised from 50 rupees to 60 rupees, and will be capped at the new ceiling for any future changes.

He also announced lifting of restriction of all imports enforced in December in a bid to cut the current account deficit, which has been one of the major concerns by the IMF to release the funds. #awesome... at higher rate of dollar expect the reserves to fall even faster#
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Yellow sea seems to be boiling again.
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/si ... d27df&ei=7

person belonging to minority religion shot dead in peshawar
second attack on members of Sikh community in last few days
The man, identified as 32-year-old Manmohan Singh was gunned down in Rashidgarhi Bazaar of Peshawar in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) raising questions about the safety of members of the minority community in the neighbouring country.

Earlier on Friday, a Sikh shopkeeper, identified as Tarlok Singh, was shot at by unidentified men in Peshawar, but had managed to survive.

Manmohan Singh ran a grocery store in Rashid Garhi in Peshawar and was the sole breadwinner for his family
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1761629/us-fi ... ical-goals
US firms pump money in India as Biden eyes geopolitical goals
NEW DELHI: Amazon and Google are the latest companies to announce massive investment plans in India amid US President Joe Biden’s efforts to “send a message to China” by cementing India’s position as a close ally.
Right, Amazon and Google investing in India is not because of good STEM talent pool and massive market but because of geopolitics. Typical Paki thinking.
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It's not geopolitics anymore. It's geoeconomics. A strategic thinker told me once.
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Meanwhile ishaq “I know how to deal with IMF” dar has caved in, proposed raising taxes further. Scrapped tax amnesty. All in last ditch effort to save IMF deal.

This time around it might work, they’ve agreed to most IMF demands. The program ends on June 30 so they have a week to get it done.
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Anujan wrote:Meanwhile ishaq “I know how to deal with IMF” dar has caved in, proposed raising taxes further. Scrapped tax amnesty. All in last ditch effort to save IMF deal.

This time around it might work, they’ve agreed to most IMF demands. The program ends on June 30 so they have a week to get it done.
Too late, because in theory, elections are going to be held soon. IMF won't go by last min promises of a caretaker govt.
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Deans wrote:...

Too late, because in theory, elections are going to be held soon. IMF won't go by last min promises of a caretaker govt.
Are all the things in place for the selection err i mean elections..

The PTI hasn't been banned yet. The new savior party hasn't been adequately promoted nor has the new messiah been introduced to the abduls & ayeshas so far.

Not that the jernails care for any credibility now, but one still expects they would at least take some efforts towards a pretense..
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Why for is the fruit basket kept so far from the baki beggar-in-chief? Why is he made to sit on a plain chair while the IMF mohtorma is on a comfortable couch? Is it symbolic of the chances of the IMF deal hain??

so many questions...

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saip wrote:Yellow sea seems to be boiling again.
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If they are innocent shepherds then how can they be martyrs?
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Manish_P wrote:Why for is the fruit basket kept so far from the baki beggar-in-chief? Why is he made to sit on a plain chair while the IMF mohtorma is on a comfortable couch? Is it symbolic of the chances of the IMF deal hain??

so many questions...

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Manish ji,

please note: no umbrellas in sight and the cutlery has been hidden away

they are taking no chances
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williams wrote:
saip wrote:Yellow sea seems to be boiling again.
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If they are innocent shepherds then how can they be martyrs?
Looks like any momeen killed by a kafir is automatically a martyr
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Female bomber targets cops in Turbat
QUETTA: A police official was martyred and five other people were injured after a female suicide bomber targeted a Frontier Corps’ (FC) vehicle in Balochistan’s Turbat city on Saturday.

The attack occurred as the convoy approached the Commissioner Chowk, police sources said. The exact number of injured was not known immediately, however, policemen were stated to be among them. A senior administration officer termed the incident a suicide attack, adding that an investigation had been ordered.
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Anujan wrote:It's not geopolitics anymore. It's geoeconomics. A strategic thinker told me once.
Is he the same guy who warned us of India’s dire sea-locked, air-locked and outer space loneliness state unlike bakistan’s cozy proximity to sheep-grazing areas of world ?

Also how did the pakis with predictions around the world of “3billion onlee, defaulting next week” survive without actually defaulting? There is no coherent story in public domain on that
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I thought comments going against Pakistani Army are not allowed. But looks like one got through.

Pakistan Needs To Demonstrate Restraint In New Era Of Geopolitical Conflict

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Manish_P wrote:Why for is the fruit basket kept so far from the baki beggar-in-chief? Why is he made to sit on a plain chair while the IMF mohtorma is on a comfortable couch? Is it symbolic of the chances of the IMF deal hain??

so many questions...
Space is needed for the beggar-in-chief to get on his knees!
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But seriously it's a very odd seating arrangement. Anyone has an explanation for it?
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2015:

Installed power capacity: 22000 MW
Shortfall: 8000 MW

After 8 years of "game changing" CPEC "investments":

2023

Installed power capacity 40000 MW
Power generated: 20000 MW
Shortfall: 8500 MW
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partha wrote:But seriously it's a very odd seating arrangement. Anyone has an explanation for it?
He probably suffers knee pain and cannot sit in a low seat.
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If the two big boys are not responding to your begging, then move on to a group of smaller but many potential donors...

Pakistan Should Remember Its Friends In The Commonwealth
The Commonwealth offers Pakistan an opportunity to improve its standing in the international community and reinforce links with some of the most promising economies in the world

Despite its closeness with Beijing, Islamabad has also managed to maintain close and valuable ties to the West. Pakistan’s hand has been strongest when it can act as an honest broker between the Muslim world, the West, and China.

Yet current trends indicate that honest brokers may soon become an endangered species. As the Americans and Chinese jockey for global leadership, middle powers risk being left out in the cold for failing to comply with one side or the other.

Instead of striking up an imperfect marriage with an uneasy bedfellow, Pakistan should instead consider an ambitious programme of diplomatic diversification.

Fortunately, Pakistan has a ready-made avenue for such an initiative, in the shape of the Commonwealth. With fifty-six member states stretched across every corner of the globe, the Commonwealth is home to some of the world’s fastest growing and most dynamic economies.

There are tangible economic upsides too; Commonwealth states enjoy 21% lower bilateral trading costs, faster dispute resolution, and more effective international investments. Commonwealth states like Britain, Singapore, and Australia are some of the largest sources of foreign direct investment in the world, with deep pools of reliable creditors who should be induced to direct their attention towards Pakistan.

In 2021, Pakistan saw foreign direct investment of just 0.6% of GDP, down from 3.7% in 2007. In the same year, Fiji saw that number hit 9.5% – in Gabon, 8.1% and in Sierra Leone, 5.3%. Despite being one of the world’s poorest nations as recently as the mid-1990s, even Rwanda was able to post a respectable 1.9%, down from its pre-pandemic 3.8%. Closer to home, Pakistan should ally with Bangladesh to build an integrated supply chain for flood-resilient infrastructure. A recent study estimated that 58% of Bangladesh’s 169 million people are vulnerable to flooding – and as recent events in Sindh have shown, this is a problem shared by both of South Asia’s Muslim nations. Combatting ecological disaster will require them to pool their expertise, industrial capabilities, and research capacity, tackling this shared problem together instead of thinly spreading their limited resources.
I was expecting this to come from a paki anal-cyst but this guy is a Brit -

Sam Bidwell is the founder and Director of the Centre for Commonwealth Affairs, a newly established London-based think-tank working with partners across the Commonwealth to craft actionable pan-Commonwealth policy. Sam is a graduate at the University of Cambridge, where he achieved an LLB, with a focus on constitutional, public, and international law.
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Bada badmash will be back soon. Is he going to be the new king maker chosen by establishment or is he being thrown in to the mix so that they will have more angles to exploit if any other politician tries IK style revolution?
NA passes bill to pave way for Nawaz return
ISLAMABAD: After its approval from the upper house of parliament, the National Assem­bly on Sunday approved the Elections (Amendment) Act 2023, which empowers the Election Commi­ssion of Pakistan to unilaterally fix the date for elections and also limits the lawmakers’ disqualification period to five years with retrospective effect.

The bill, dubbed as ‘person-specific legislation’ by the opposition, would benefit PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif and newly-for­med Istehkam-i-Pakistan Party (IPP) patron Jahangir Khan Tareen. The two were disqualified for life more than five years ago after a Supreme Court judgement ruled that the disqualification under Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution was for life.


When it was introduced in the Senate, one of the movers of the amendment, Senator Dilawar Khan, had said that Mr Sharif, Mr Tareen and many politicians from Balochistan would benefit from the law.
Nawaz Sharif acquitted in plot allotment case
An accountability court in Lahore on Saturday acquitted former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a reference of illegal land allotment. Accountability court Judge Rao Abdul Jabbar Khan announced the verdict. The court maintained that all the people have already been acquitted in this case.
Nawaz Sharif’s return: PM Shehbaz forms legal team
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has formed a legal team for completing the legal work for the return of former premier and Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) Supremo Nawaz Sharif, ARY News reported on Sunday.

PM Shehbaz Sharif constituted a legal team headed by Federal Minister for Law and Justice Azam Nazeer Tarar. The other members in the legal team include PM’s special assistant Attaullah Tarar, Irfan Qadir and other legal experts.
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partha wrote:2015:

Installed power capacity: 22000 MW
Shortfall: 8000 MW

After 8 years of "game changing" CPEC "investments":

2023

Installed power capacity 40000 MW
Power generated: 20000 MW
Shortfall: 8500 MW
So their demand is going down as well . Sure shot sign that they contracted in those 8 years .
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Pakistan sacks three senior army officers and tries more than 100 people over violent May protests

Officials in Pakistan have fired three senior army officers for failing to prevent the violent clashes last month in the wake of the arrest of former prime minister Imran Khan, an army spokesperson said on Monday.

At least 102 people were being tried in Pakistan’s military court over the widespread protests, army spokesperson Ahmad Sharif Chaudhry said.

Mr Chaudhry said all “planners and facilitators” of the violent protests will be punished, no matter which institution or office they belonged to.

Another 15 officers, including major generals and brigadiers, are also facing strict departmental action, he said without detailing the punitive measures. The punishments have been ordered after two separate army inquiries were completed into the violent protests, the army spokesperson said.

Thousands of supporters of Mr Khan attacked army installations after he was arrested on graft allegations on 9 May. At least 10 people died in the violent clashes in Islamabad and more than 4,000 people were arrested.

The high-voltage protests also saw police clashing with Mr Khan’s supporters after his Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party urged them to “shut down Pakistan” in protest.

The protests targeted several military installations, including an air base, several cantonments, the house of a general and the army’s headquarters after Mr Khan was dragged out of a courtroom and detained.

Mr Khan was giving his biometric data in a room inside the Islamabad High Court when officers dressed in riot gear stormed the building, smashing windows to gain access in dramatic scenes captured on video by Mr Khan’s aides.

His supporters also torched buildings and vehicles and attacked police and military personnel and facilities.

Mr Khan was released shortly after by the orders of Pakistan’s Supreme Court which criticised the way he was arrested.

The 70-year-old crickter-turned-politician was ousted from power in a no-confidence vote in parliament last year and is currently facing more than 100 cases, mainly on charges of inciting people to violence, threatening officials, and defying a ban on rallies.

He also faces a graft case along with his wife.

After he was ousted from office, Mr Khan has been subject to at least one failed assassination attempt which, he told The Independent in an interview in March, left him with lasting nerve damage. PTI officials alleged that paramilitary officers deliberately targeted his wounded leg during the last month’s arrest.

Mr Khan accuses the government and the country’s security agencies of being behind the attempt on his life, a charge which both have denied.

With a consistent history of military takeovers, Pakistan has seen political upheaval and social unrest. Mr Khan is the seventh prime minister to be arrested since 1977.

The turmoil came at the time when Pakistan is struggling with a dire economic situation, a spike in militancy, and the impact of last year’s catastrophic floods. This grimness is unlikely to be addressed or resolved soon, further straining living conditions and security for the 220-million population.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/pa ... 2515&ei=11
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Should Pakistan surrender ?
Pakistan is in a mess. Controlled by an increasingly unpopular military, the nation is teetering on the brink of default. By July, the country’s foreign exchange reserves are set to fall below $3 billion, barely sufficient to cover a month’s worth of imports. An “Economic Revival Plan” was unveiled last Tuesday, but rather than a genuine attempt at fiscal reform, it appears to be a vehicle for the army to further subsume the civilian government. There was, only a few weeks before, a 16% hike in the defence budget.

Pakistan needs friends, but they are in short supply. Since Partition in August 1947, the Government has fabricated a national identity hinged around despising India. Delusions of grandeur followed — and now they are starting to shatter.

The secession of Pakistan’s eastern wing in 1971 after war with India should have been a rude awakening. It should also have binned the narrative that India is trying to annex its territory, since New Delhi facilitated the transition of East Pakistan to an independent Bangladesh, instead of gulping it down as war spoil. The creation of Bangladesh should also have disabused Pakistan of the farcical notion that adherence to Islam can forge a single national identity — if indeed that weren’t obvious from the presence of two separate Muslim-majority states along Pakistan’s western border.

Instead, under Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who led the country post-1971, Pakistan Islamised the constitution, propelled jihadist groups towards Afghanistan in search of more geopolitical influence, and invited investment of freshly-minted Arab petrodollars. Since then, Pakistan’s leaders have enabled the establishment of Taliban rule in Afghanistan, the Talibanisation of Pakistan itself, and the radical Islamisation of Kashmir, as well as multiple jihadist attacks on India. Yet even after decades of jihadism backfiring on Pakistan, the country’s leaders still won’t rethink their extreme, religionist narrative on India. Incumbent Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari doesn’t hesitate to use Islamist rhetoric in discussing Kashmir; Imran Khan confidently urges Indian Muslims to pick up arms against the state.

The trouble is that Islamist policies created Pakistan, rather than the other way around. Hostility towards India, therefore, is not temporary opportunism on the part of Islamists, but the consequence of centuries-old political and theological narratives. Once the British Raj took over, the Muslim elite of India became increasingly apprehensive about the possibility of eventually living in a Hindu majority nation, and struggled for religionist separation. This became the ideological raison d’être of Pakistan, in the form of the Two Nation Theory: “Muslims and Hindus are two separate nations that cannot live together.” For the past 76 years, “Muslim” Pakistan let this narrative direct its relations with “Hindu” India.

Today, the nations’ differences are most obvious in the economic realm: Pakistan and India have foreign reserves of $3 billion and $600 billion respectively. While pointing this out might have been met with accusations of treason in Pakistan until a couple of years ago, recent events have led to the beginning of a massive rethink. After Imran Khan’s government became the latest to be ousted by the military’s machinations last year, anti-army sentiments have been simmering. But even more critically, the extent of Pakistan’s ongoing fiscal crisis has made people question the army’s grandiose rhetoric, including the gross impracticality of any ambitions for Kashmir, given the economic strides India is making. Pakistan is missing out on at least $37 billion worth of potential trade with India annually, owing to its obstinate fixation with self-inflating Islam-centric narratives.

With the already limited trade with India largely frozen since the border skirmishes of 2019, Pakistan has instead looked to China. The $62 billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is Beijing’s biggest-ever overseas investment. Part of the Belt and Road Initiative, CPEC was supposed to be a fiscal lifeline, but it has instead metamorphosed into a debt trap, owing to skewed agreements predominantly dictated by Beijing. CPEC is starting to seem more like a neocolonial venture, a front for the Chinese takeover of Pakistan, which is leading to human rights abuses and mass appropriation of resources. The Chinese stranglehold has left Islamabad with little choice but to continually express gratitude to Beijing over partial loans to pay import bills issued mostly, of course, by China.

For Pakistan, which has persistently chosen to alienate all its neighbours, the only rational way forward would be to actively work towards regional cooperation — beginning with the subcontinent’s largest country. The longer Pakistan takes to come to this conclusion, the harder it will be. Today, better ties with India aren’t something that Pakistan can simply ask for; Islamabad would need to offer some incentive. It would have to right those wrongs that leaders in Pakistan have openly confessed to: the provocation of wars, the facilitation of India-bound jihadist groups such as the JeM or the Lashkar-e-Taiba, which orchestrated, among others, the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Gaining India’s trust will be very, very difficult.
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Let's get that unsurmountable wall on the border asap
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Walls no not stop desperate people.

I wonder if India should be kind and smear pig fat in a 100 meter strip along the border? Might be more compassionate than firepower.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1761765
It’s all geopolitics
Another strategic analysis.
Arguably, the visit we should have obsessed over last week was that of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to China.
5% of the article is Motorma saying Pakis should obsess over Blinken's visit to China instead of Modi's visit to US and 95% of the article is Motorma obsessing over Modi's US visit.
Pakistan will be lost if it doesn’t marry economic policy (our vague premise of doing better on agriculture and IT) with foreign policy and geopolitical realities. Ultimately, it will have to reappraise the cost of premising its foreign policy on enmity with India.

Areas for cooperation — food and water security, climate adaptation and mitigation, supply chain integration, access to technology, and even regional stability — are proliferating and need to be explored (perhaps one day in a threesome with Washington too?). Without a more agile approach, Pakistan will only hasten its isolation.
She abuses Indian PM, makes all kinds of nonsense allegations on India and ends the article dreaming US-India-Pak three way co-operation. What level of delusion is this?
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Not until Muslims in India have been accepted into the country that was created for them. India should not be like the Soviet Union that prevented Jewish emigration.

Let the Muslims be free. India should let them migrate to Pakistan. Emigration is a fundamental right, especially in Islam. In fact it might even be an obligation. India should not prevent Muslims from observing their Islamic duties.
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partha wrote:https://www.dawn.com/news/1761765
It’s all geopolitics
Another strategic analysis.
Arguably, the visit we should have obsessed over last week was that of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to China.
She abuses Indian PM, makes all kinds of nonsense allegations on India and ends the article dreaming US-India-Pak three way co-operation. What level of delusion is this?
Pakis are hoping that Raga comes next year, they feel they can start their shenanigans after that, hate Hindus and BJP but do not hate the seculars, that's the essence of the article. So support Amman ki Tamasha while all the usual activities start next year
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partha wrote:
5% of the article is Motorma saying Pakis should obsess over Blinken's visit to China instead of Modi's visit to US and 95% of the article is Motorma obsessing over Modi's US visit.

She abuses Indian PM, makes all kinds of nonsense allegations on India and ends the article dreaming US-India-Pak three way co-operation. What level of delusion is this?
A sane or logical pakistani is an Oxymoron.
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By July, the country’s foreign exchange reserves are set to fall below $3 billion, barely sufficient to cover a month’s worth of imports
I've been waiting for this mythical default for several months now. Alas, it is like waiting for actress Meera to turn 26 - she always turns 25 every year, and Pakistan is always one month from default. :((
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108495 ... s-in-dubai
Nawaz, Zardari hold meeting on key issues in Dubai
Dissolution of assemblies, date of elections, seat adjustment in Punjab and other important issues on the agenda
Sibte Arif, June 27, 2023

DUBAI: Pakistani political activities in Dubai has reached its peak and after the very “special meetings” of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif in the United Arab Emirates, the former premier met with former President Asif Zardari in a hotel located along Sheikh Zayed Road in Dubai.
Highly informed sources have confirmed to The News that the dissolution of assemblies, date of general elections, seat adjustment in Punjab and other important issues were discussed amongst the leaders of the two major political parties.
A businessman directly associated with the meetings told The News on the condition of anonymity that many important issues could not be resolved in the meeting between former president Asif Zardari and former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and the deadlock on many crucial issues still persists. However, Nawaz Sharif invited the leadership of PPP for dinner at his residence in Emirates Hills, Dubai to further discuss the pending issues.
There are reports that more sessions are being held to prepare a complete plan for holding the general elections in November this year, while the dissolution of Parliament has also been discussed in the first week of August, but no further information was available till the filing of this report.
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Implications of expanding multi-faceted Indo-US ties
The royal treatment meted out to Modi and the laudatory comments showered on him exemplifies that economic and strategic considerations trump professed adherence to human rights, and overlook blatant discrimination and suppression of minorities. In sharp contrast, there was a prominent mention in the joint communique of Pakistan’s support of Jihadi elements like the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and others, which factually is no more correct. The two leaders “called upon the FATF to undertake further work identifying how to improve global implementation of its standards to combat money laundering and financing of terrorism.”
It is a sad reflection of how the US, the leading super power and champion of human rights, overlooks these glaring weaknesses in India and lectures China and Pakistan, pointing at their shortcomings. The discrimination of Muslims and other minorities in India under Modi’s watch is completely ignored. His past record as Chief Minister of Gujrat, when he was declared persona non grata by the US for suppressing and overlooking abuses and injustices against Muslims and minorities, is forgotten and present maltreatment and abuse of human rights overlooked. When asked at a press conference regarding discrimination against minorities, Modi’s brazen denial shows to what extent he can twist facts and mislead the world. This is a classic example of geopolitics and economic interests taking precedence over moral considerations. The US is promoting India’s membership in a larger UNSC council and if it was not for China’s opposition and that of Italy, it would have succeeded in its endeavour. {Did not know Italy is also objecting to India entering UNSC. What is their takleef?}
The strengthening of the Indian economy and extensive cooperation in the fields of science and technology by the US is motivated by several geostrategic, political and economic considerations. India’s rise as an economic power is expected to counter China’s influence in the region. Supporting India’s technological base and industry would open a major market for US products that is presently dominated by China. Indian leadership across the political spectrum supports and encourages close ties and linkages with the US but is opposed to any formal alliance that thwarts its preferences. India is a member of Quad, a partnership with Australia, Japan and the US that is supposed to strengthen ties between these countries. Its unspoken agenda is to counter the growing influence of China in the region by maintaining a strong naval presence of these four countries and increasing trade and other linkages with Australia and amongst each other. The US is also trying to dissuade India away from Russia.
The communique issued on Modi’s visit to the US also deals extensively with the prospects of widening and deepening defence ties, including transfer of critical technologies, so that India’s military power could match that of China. Sharing of intelligence and developing compatibility of encrypted communication equipment are likely to further strengthen their military capabilities against China. The growing influence of the Indian diaspora is clearly evident. They are dominating IT and have a significant presence as doctors, medical staff and engineers.
For Pakistan’s leadership it should be a wakeup call that it cannot continue to be oblivious to these transformative developments and remain mired in political infighting. The present discourse and conduct of leaders have vitiated the political environment and promoted despondency and defeatism with consequences on the economy and international standing of the country. Weaker states are unable to promote national interests within their country or abroad.

Above all, it is a disservice to the people of Pakistan whose expectations and aspirations for a better tomorrow have been foiled. Firm date of elections should be announced and their credibility ensured. Our base instincts of manipulating events for personal or institutional gains have wreaked havoc and should not be tolerated. We should strive to be a normal democratic state where failings and strengths find a way out for correction. We would soon discover that we too have some importance. :((
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First they declared
But let’s also see if Modi’s rise as an ally of the West bears resemblance to another subversion of democracy in South Asia, when the military dictator Ziaul Haq usurped power in Pakistan and imposed a puritanical theocratic order. {There is an interesting meta piskoanalysis here*}
Not going to merit this with a debunking, but in what way does a military dictator who hung a popularly elected prime minister, and whose only utility was to start a jihad in Afghanistan, the same as Modi?
Now they are throwing in the towel

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2423989/pa ... fence-ties
US was informed through diplomatic channels that the transfer of advanced military technologies to India without taking into account Pakistan's legitimate concerns would undermine the strategic stability and conventional balance in the South Asian region.
Strategic Stability in South Asia will be affected
When Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently visited the United States on a first state visit, his trip was not only rich in optics but some substantive decisions were taken.

For example, General Electric of the US and India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited will make in India advanced fighter jet engines for the country's indigenous light combat aircraft.
US memory chip giant Micron Technology will invest up to $825 million to build a semiconductor assembly and test facility in India, creating thousands of jobs.

This indicates that the US is not only willing to sell arms to India but is not averse to the idea of transferring technology, something that has already raised alarm bells in Pakistan. :(( :((
“Driven by a newfound geo-political patronage, India forces have embarked on a plan to take innocent lives to satiate their false narratives and concocted allegations.”
Who did India learn from, I wonder
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*The Piskoanalysis

Did you see that the worst insult that any Pakistani can throw at an Indian is
You are just like us!!
The fact that Pakistanis think that it is a great insult, and the fact that Indians then feel greatly insulted, itself is very amusing to me :rotfl:

Indians then go
No we are not!!
Pakistanis then go
Yes you are!! Look at religious intolerance!! Look at the bigoted worldview!! Look at how Modi is like Zia!! Indians are just like Pakistanis!!
I just look at the meta piskoanalysis and laugh. What kind of a subconscious inferiority complex should you have, to think that "You are just like me" is an insult to you? :rotfl: All this TFTA-ness is just a compensation mechanism, where they know deep down below that they are worse than SDREs.

Even sane commentators from Pakiland fall into this trap. Ayesha Siddiqa who otherwise is sane, said that Pakistan army owning and operating business is just like Indian Army. :D
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Dilbu wrote: The US is promoting India’s membership in a larger UNSC council and if it was not for China’s opposition and that of Italy, it would have succeeded in its endeavour. {Did not know Italy is also objecting to India entering UNSC. What is their takleef?}
Dilbuji,

There is a long list of objectors. These were the nuclear nations that opposed 1, 2, 3 at the NSG,

"Washington was shocked and India felt betrayed by the unproductive NSG meeting 10 days ago, U.S. Ambassador David Mulford told envoys from New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, Ireland and the Netherlands, according to the diplomats."

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLT381052

Only commonality in them is that they are Goras! New Zealand, Ireland, Norway and Austria did not and still do not even have a single nuclear reactor!
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Anujan wrote:


Strategic Stability in South Asia will be affected
Strategic mental stability of Pakis will be affected. Of all the hot takes from Paki land about Modi's visit this one comparing him to Zia takes the cake!!
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The US asked Pakistan to tune to the /dev/null diplomatic channel :)

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2423989/pa ... fence-ties
US was informed through diplomatic channels that the transfer of advanced military technologies to India without taking into account Pakistan's legitimate concerns would undermine the strategic stability and conventional balance in the South Asian region.
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Dilbu wrote: The US is promoting India’s membership in a larger UNSC council and if it was not for China’s opposition and that of Italy, it would have succeeded in its endeavour. {Did not know Italy is also objecting to India entering UNSC. What is their takleef?}
Italy is member of the so called Uniting for Consensus/Coffee club (basically the losers club) which was formed to oppose the G4 Group comprising of India, Japan, Brazil and Germany which was demanding new Permanent Members on the UN with Veto Power.

The other members are Italy, South Korea, Argentina and Pakistan. Each of these countries are :(( about the possibility of their rivals trying to become full scale members at the UNSC.
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