Terroristan - March 31, 2022

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Jun 2023 09:46

Manish_P wrote:I was expecting this to come from a paki anal-cyst but this guy is a Brit

Why do you distinguish between them both?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 29 Jun 2023 09:58

Manish_P wrote:Bakistan FM was very firm on no new taxes last week

Anujan wrote:Meanwhile ishaq “I know how to deal with IMF” dar has caved in, proposed raising taxes further. Scrapped tax amnesty. All in last ditch effort to save IMF deal.

This time around it might work, they’ve agreed to most IMF demands. The program ends on June 30 so they have a week to get it done.

No, Anujan ji. No cave in here. This is even a higher level Paki perfidy than what the rest of the world is used to from them.

The Finance Bill was passed without the quorum in the NA. At an appropriate time, i.e. after the IMF released the loan, someone will file a case in Pakistan claiming the Finance Bill 2023-2024 was illegal and the Court will strike it down. Shahbaz Sharif will put on a face of injured innocence to the IMF.

Let's remember that at least twice the IMF has caught the Pakis fudging figures and lying to IMF. Even as we think that Pakis couldn't plumb deeper, they disprove us with ease and felicity. Just wait, IMHO.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 29 Jun 2023 18:45

SSridhar wrote:
Manish_P wrote:I was expecting this to come from a paki anal-cyst but this guy is a Brit
Why do you distinguish between them both?

Oh, yes. mea culpa

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 29 Jun 2023 23:13

Dilbu wrote: The US is promoting India’s membership in a larger UNSC council and if it was not for China’s opposition and that of Italy, it would have succeeded in its endeavour. {Did not know Italy is also objecting to India entering UNSC. What is their takleef?}

To the best of my recollection/understanding, the Italians weren't objecting to India's entry into the UNSC, per se. They were objecting to expansion of the UNSC. India, Germany, Japan, Brazil wanted to enter the UNSC as permanent members of the UNSC. Italy was opposed to Germany's candidature, P@kis opposed India's, Argentian opposed Brazil's. China, never openly but behind the scenes, opposed both India's & Japan's entry. From what I recollect.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 01 Jul 2023 08:27

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 01 Jul 2023 08:53

la.khan wrote:
Dilbu wrote: The US is promoting India’s membership in a larger UNSC council and if it was not for China’s opposition and that of Italy, it would have succeeded in its endeavour. {Did not know Italy is also objecting to India entering UNSC. What is their takleef?}
To the best of my recollection/understanding, the Italians weren't objecting to India's entry into the UNSC, per se. They were objecting to expansion of the UNSC. India, Germany, Japan, Brazil wanted to enter the UNSC as permanent members of the UNSC.

Let's not discount the Italian connection of the Cong 1st family.

wig · Post by **wig** » 03 Jul 2023 10:37

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world ... ces-522352

Chinese billionaire Jack Ma makes surprise visit to Pakistan; picture surfaces
extracts

Chinese billionaire Jack Ma made a surprise visit to Pakistan this week after he arrived in Lahore from Nepal's Kathmandu.
Former Chairman of the Board of Investment (BOI), Pakistan, Muhammad Azfar Ahsan, has confirmed Jack Ma's visit to Lahore.The Alibaba Co-founder came to Pakistan on a personal visit on June 29 and stayed for 23 hours

and

Ma was accompanied by a delegation of seven businessmen, consisting of five Chinese nationals, a Danish individual, and a US citizen, says the report.
They arrived in Pakistan from Nepal via a chartered flight from Hong Kong's business aviation sector.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 03 Jul 2023 11:51

4 security personnel martyred after checkposts in Balochistan’s Sherani come under attack

Three police officials and a Frontier Constabulary (FC) personnel were martyred while a terrorist was killed on Sunday after police and Levies checkposts in the Dhana Sar area of Balochistan’s Sherani subdistrict came under attack.

Sherani Deputy Commissioner (DC) Bilal Shabbir confirmed the fatalities to Dawn.com, adding that the exchange of fire between the security forces and the terrorists continued for almost two hours.

He said another FC personnel was injured, whose condition was out of danger. A terrorist was killed during the exchange of fire, while two others were injured.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Jul 2023 12:02

wig wrote:https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world ... ces-522352

Chinese billionaire Jack Ma makes surprise visit to Pakistan; picture surfaces
extracts
Chinese billionaire Jack Ma made a surprise visit to Pakistan this week after he arrived in Lahore from Nepal's Kathmandu.
Former Chairman of the Board of Investment (BOI), Pakistan, Muhammad Azfar Ahsan, has confirmed Jack Ma's visit to Lahore.The Alibaba Co-founder came to Pakistan on a personal visit on June 29 and stayed for 23 hours
and
Ma was accompanied by a delegation of seven businessmen, consisting of five Chinese nationals, a Danish individual, and a US citizen, says the report.
They arrived in Pakistan from Nepal via a chartered flight from Hong Kong's business aviation sector.

Nepal, Pakis, SL, BD, Myanmar- the Chinese's are upto their old tricks.

partha · Post by **partha** » 03 Jul 2023 21:21

With $3 billion from IMF guaranteed, it's back to regular programming:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1762765/pakis ... holy-quran

Pakistan asks Sweden to take ‘serious action’ against desecration of Holy Quran

Another $1 billion from IMF and Pakistan would have "demanded" Sweden take action.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 03 Jul 2023 22:45

Aage se Pervez and Peeche se Parveen Bilawal signed a declaration that "Ahmadis are not muslims", got his passport, went to Japan and complained that Pakistan is ready for peace but India is consumed by religious hysteria.

After showing great opposition to religious discrimination, he plans to return to Pakistan so that his ruling party can continue rounding up Ahmadis who celebrate Eid

https://www.dawn.com/news/1762677
Cases filed against Ahmadis for sacrificing animals on Eid

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 03 Jul 2023 22:47

partha wrote:With $3 billion from IMF guaranteed, it's back to regular programming:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1762765/pakis ... holy-quran
Pakistan asks Sweden to take ‘serious action’ against desecration of Holy Quran
Another $1 billion from IMF and Pakistan would have "demanded" ~~Sweden~~ {Switzerland} take action.

Last time Sweden did something, all Pakistanis gathered in Peshwar, wore their soosai vest, collected their AK and proceeded to burn....the swiss flag

https://www.timesnownews.com/videos/vir ... o-97374943

Protests against Quran desecration by a Danish-Swedish far-right extremist in Sweden have swept through parts of Pakistan. Now, a video shows enraged Muslim clerics mistakenly setting fire to the national flag of Switzerland aside from the Stars and Stripes of the USA

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 04 Jul 2023 01:01

Pakistan asks Sweden to take ‘serious action’ against desecration of Holy Quran
PM Shehbaz demands proper investigation into the incident "without any interference"; Pope Francis says desecration of the Holy Quran has made him "angry and disgusted".
Updated about 3 hours ago

I am still confused why KFC and McDonald are still intact and not burned?

partha · Post by **partha** » 04 Jul 2023 10:18

In a sensational development in geopolitics, FM Bhutto has said Pakistan won't be part of bloc politics of the new cold war.

Pakistan ‘too entangled’ to be involved in bloc politics: Bilawal

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 04 Jul 2023 22:09

Anujan wrote:...

Last time Sweden did something, all Pakistanis gathered in Peshwar, wore their soosai vest, collected their AK and proceeded to burn the swiss flag...

This time they plan something bigger... Showbaaz has called for jihadistan-wide protests this Friday.

Surely we can look forward to seeing the burning of a lot of European flags now... in addition to the US, Israel & Indian flags

And the LGBTQ flags..

Does the IMF have a flag ?

If yes hope the faithfools don't burn it also in their excitement

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 04 Jul 2023 22:15

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 04 Jul 2023 23:48

https://www.dawn.com/news/1762954/pm-ca ... -in-sweden

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has called for nationwide protests on Friday to uphold the sanctity of the Holy Quran and to demonstrate against the recent incident of its desecration in Sweden.

My sources tell me that the Swedish government has been rattled due to this call for protest in Pakistan, and has immediately formed a peace negotiating committee and issued an apology

The incident took place last week when a man, who fled from Iraq to Sweden several years ago, tore up and burned a copy of the Holy Quran outside Stockholm’s central mosque

partha · Post by **partha** » 05 Jul 2023 00:31

I hope some looting and burning happens resulting in $3 billion loss to the economy. Idiots deserve it.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 05 Jul 2023 08:46

One drip of IMF "glucose" in their vein, and Pakistan got its **** back?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2023 09:55

partha wrote:I hope some looting and burning happens resulting in $3 billion loss to the economy. Idiots deserve it.

purely sorrowful looting, and burning of course, pious acts that truly express the heartfelt grievances of the phata abduls

the pissed quam must set an example for the world to follow....

partha · Post by **partha** » 05 Jul 2023 11:56

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108706 ... c-partners

Strategic partners

Strategic summary:

Strategic co-operation between strategic partners India and US is upsetting strategic balance in South Asia.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 05 Jul 2023 12:37

partha wrote:https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108706 ... c-partners
Strategic partners
Strategic summary:

Strategic co-operation between strategic partners India and US is upsetting strategic balance in South Asia.

From the article

In the face of the challenge posed by the expanding Indo-US strategic cooperation, the first and foremost task facing our policymakers is to stabilize the country politically and accelerate the pace of GDP growth to seven per cent and above while maintaining a credible security deterrent at the lowest level of armed forces and armaments.

there you are... it's just a percentage... in madarsa maths 7% of bakistan is greater than 6% of Endia... easy-peasy, bring on the naan-korma.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2023 15:52

this is population jihad.

the paki lady and her 4 brats entered illegally via nepal

she should have come to KAR and got PDS food and free bus rides

I don't think that it is as innocent as it is being made out to be.

An urdu speaking female, with 4 brats in tow, getting all the way from nepal to noida by bus, is not so easy to do, unless there is a network in place to get such people from place A to place B

there are clear NATSEC issues here and one wonders how many thousands of paki jihadis have sneaked into India like this

Pak Woman Meets Noida Man While Playing PUBG, Comes To India With 4 Kids

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pak-wom ... ds-4173281

Noida: Police have detained a Pakistani woman and her four children who were illegally staying in Greater Noida, where they were allegedly sheltered by a local man who met her through online game PUBG, officials said on Monday.

The police have also detained the man, a Greater Noida resident, who allegedly housed them in his rented accommodation, they said

The Pakistani woman, who is in her late 20s, and the local man had got in touch over online game PUBG, which led to a friendship between them, the police officer said

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 05 Jul 2023 18:38

American assessment of Gwadar:
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/trecms/pdf/AD1173444.pdf
Thesis
NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
ASSESSING THE COMMERCIAL AND DUAL-USE VIABILITY OF PAKISTAN’S GWADAR PORT
by
Joseph B. McGinnis March 2022

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 06 Jul 2023 06:18

Chetak,

When a country fails, it’s women are for sale.

A LOT of human trafficking of their women to Indian buyers is already happening.

Could be in hundreds of thousands over the years.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 06 Jul 2023 09:01

Hain...shouldn't these momeens be awarded with some hilal-e-xyz medals for penetrating yehudi security ??

Yawn - FIA arrests 5 Pakistanis over 'illegal emigration' to Israel

The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) said it had arrested five Pakistanis on Wednesday on allegations of “illegal emigration” to Israel, which Islamabad does not recognise as a state.

The FIA said in a tweet that its Mirpurkhas crime circle carried out the arrests, stating that the suspects had been working in Tel Aviv as “helpers and car washers”.

Separately, FIA Sindh (Zone-II) Director Abdul Hameed Bhutto told Dawn.com that all five of the arrested men were residents of Mirpurkhas who “travelled to Israel with the help of an agent, said to be an Israeli citizen”.

The FIA statement on Twitter said that each of the suspects paid the agent Rs300,000 to Rs400,000 to enter Israel while Bhutto stated that they paid over Rs2m to the agent to get employment in Israel.

“The accused person … while working in Israel, used to send his salaries in the form of foreign remittances through the Western Union of Pakistan post office, Mirpurkhas, which were accordingly received by his relatives residing in Mirpurkhas, Sindh,” the FIR stated.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Jul 2023 12:44

Pakistan imported Russian crude last month. How is it going?
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108705 ... 000-tonnes

This whole importing Russian oil stunt was all about "how come India gets to import Russian oil but we can't, hain?". They even made juvenile arguments like "If India is importing Russian oil, we should be able to do the same" when meeting US officials. That Pakistan refineries are not fully capable of processing Russian crude was known and reported in Paki media itself but Pakis still went ahead and imported just for H&D purposes.

ISLAMABAD: Pakistani’s maximum benefit on Russian crude would stand at $7-8 million/100,000 tonnes compared to Middle Eastern oil, translating to Rs1.30/litre discount on petrol for consumers, an Energy Ministry official told The News.

The discount could further increase to Rs1.60/litre petrol for the end consumers, in case National Refinery Limited, Pakistan Refinery Limited, and PARCO refined URAL, the official added.

“The ultimate benefit for end consumers is too low against the government’s high hopes from the heavy Russian crude, which is being refined by the decades old Pakistan Refinery Limited,” he said. “However, if Pakistan had a state-of-the-art deep conversion refinery, it would have maximised the benefits of URAL with maximum production and zero furnace oil output.”

The official said that if the Platts report was kept in view, Russian crude oil DAP (Delivered at Port) price in India stood at $65.7/barrel against Brent crude DAP price at $80/barrel.

However, in the international market, URAL price is at $57/barrel and Brent crude is at $75/barrel. As per the fluctuations in Brent crude price, URAL price also varies accordingly.

India is importing discounted URAL in bulk and refining it in its deep conversion refineries, making maximum finished products with zero furnace oil output and exporting them to Europe and making windfall profit.

In the case of Pakistan, the DAP price of URAL is estimated at $70/barrel including the shipping cost of $12-13/barrel from Russia to Pakistan against the DAP price of light crude from Saudi Aramco and ADNOC which is also at $80/barrel. This is how the URAL’s arrival price is $10/barrel below the price of crude from the Middle East, which Pakistani refineries use for finished products, a senior official stated while quoting the Platt prices about Russian crude in India.

Russia is not extending the special discount to Pakistan rather it is extending the same discount that other countries are getting. “The price relief per litre is too little, which if not passed on to the end consumers, but even then Pakistan’s economy will get the benefit of $7-8 million/cargo."

Pakistan's refineries use 80 percent light crude from Saudi Aramco and ADNOC under long-term contracts and consume 20 percent crude by purchasing from the spot market. Now it is up to the government how it mixes the Russian crude. The official said that the government has not yet received the PRL report about yields and how commercially viable Russian crude is. “However, there are indications that PRL can save $7.3 to 8 million per cargo of 100,000 tonnes of URAL crude.”

The official said that the discount from Russia will continue to vary every month keeping in view the Brent price fluctuations in the international market.

“If local refineries are allowed to upgrade in the next 4 years, the benefit from URAL can rise threefold,” the official stressed, reminding that the policy for local refineries was still pending after two-and-half years.

He said that PRL was blending 45 percent URAL, 45 percent crude from the Middle East, and 10 percent local crude. From URAL, PRL has produced 10 percent petrol, 60 percent furnace oil, 10-15 percent high-speed diesel, and 15 percent other items.

PRL is too old as it was incorporated in Pakistan as a Public Limited Company in May 1960. It is a hydro-skimming refinery designed to process various imported and local crude oils to meet the strategic and domestic fuel requirements of the country. The refinery has a capacity of processing approximately 50,000 barrels per day of crude oil into a variety of distilled petroleum products such as motor gasoline, high speed diesel, furnace oil, jet fuels, kerosene oil, and naphtha. urnace oil produced from URAL has high viscosity at 700cSt, and PRL has to mix 10 percent diesel in it to decrease its viscosity to 180cSt so that it can flow. This was how furnace oil production escalates to 60 percent, and diesel production is slashed by 10 percent, the official informed.

Thus, net diesel production will stand at 10-15 percent out of URAL. This means that out of 100,000 tonnes of URAL, the decades-old PRL will have to export 60 percent URAL crude in the shape of furnace oil at 75 percent of crude with a 25 percent loss. Since the discount is reasonable, even then using URAL is beneficial for Pakistan’s economy.

The official said that if Pakistan wanted to maximise the benefits of discounted Russian oil, it has to immediately announce the much-awaited refining policy for local refineries so they can upgrade in the next four years. As far as the new refinery is concerned, it will be established in the next 7-8 years if Saudi Aramco starts working on it right away, the official added.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Jul 2023 13:51

So they want Saudis to start Funding and buildign a new refinery for the Pakis right away?

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 06 Jul 2023 14:44

Aditya_V wrote:So they want Saudis to start Funding and buildign a new refinery for the Pakis right away?

Typical Paki strategical brilliance isn't it, trying to get Saudis or the Americans (IMF) to gift them money to build refineries to process Russian crude

Showbaaz should be nominated for the peace prize if he manages to do it

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jul 2023 19:29

RoyG wrote:Chetak,

When a country fails, it’s women are for sale.

A LOT of human trafficking of their women to Indian buyers is already happening.

Could be in hundreds of thousands over the years.

One question sirji,

which clown purchased the bride along with a brood of 4 ready made kids

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Jul 2023 19:33

With women's expectations these days and a skewed sex ratio, many of our poorer men are pretty desperate. Previously men from Harayana were taking BD women.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 06 Jul 2023 23:03

williams · Post by **williams** » 07 Jul 2023 00:31

Manish_P wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:So they want Saudis to start Funding and buildign a new refinery for the Pakis right away?
Typical Paki strategical brilliance isn't it, trying to get Saudis or the Americans (IMF) to gift them money to build refineries to process Russian crude

Showbaaz should be nominated for the peace prize if he manages to do it

The usual strategy will be to sign some MoUs and publish that in the media for H&D and then go back to using donkeys

Showbaaz will manage it and complain that no peace prize is given.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 07 Jul 2023 01:02

chetak wrote:
RoyG wrote:Chetak,

When a country fails, it’s women are for sale.

A LOT of human trafficking of their women to Indian buyers is already happening.

Could be in hundreds of thousands over the years.
One question sirji,

which clown purchased the bride along with a brood of 4 ready made kids

What goal he had for the kids we probably will never know. Muslim, Christian, Hindu, etc. doesn’t matter. You’re just a cash vow for a trafficker or owner.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 07 Jul 2023 01:08

Williams,

The only strategy now for the Pakistan military establishment is to leech whatever is left of the land and run like hell.

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 07 Jul 2023 06:19

partha wrote:
The official said that if Pakistan wanted to maximise the benefits of discounted Russian oil, it has to immediately announce the much-awaited refining policy for local refineries so they can upgrade in the next four years. As far as the new refinery is concerned, it will be established in the next 7-8 years if Saudi Aramco starts working on it right away, the official added.

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one thing I never understood - is it only about announcing some god-like magical "policy"? and everything will be golden? is there no requirement to implement that said policy?
also - is Pakistan some sort of land where without policy from govt, no one will dare to do anything?

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 07 Jul 2023 07:20

bharathp wrote:...
also - is Pakistan some sort of land where without policy from govt, no one will dare to do anything?

The uniformed jihadis which is the Pak military is really the largest corporate in pakistan and into practically every industry.

Any competition/ threat to their revenues is therefore a very serious matter.

So any player has to make sure that they have the clearance from the government, who are just the front for the Fauj.

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Jul 2023 10:05

And of course if Aramco doesn't build the refinery, it's has to be because of "geopolitics".

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Jul 2023 11:08

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108774 ... k-position
Controversial Kishanganga, Ratle projects: Hague court rejects India’s all six objections, upholds Pak position
Pakistan’s stance of pleading 'court of arbitration' as the right forum to resolve disputes vindicated
Khalid Mustafa & Mariana Baabar & Muhammad Saleh Zaafir, July 07, 2023
ISLAMABAD: In a major development, the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague has rejected India’s six objections challenging the ongoing court’s jurisdiction to hear the case about the controversial designs of 330-MW Kishenganga and 850-MW Ratle hydropower projects that India is building on Pakistan’s rivers Jhelum and Chenab. The PCA declared that the court is competent to consider the disputes set forth in Pakistan’s request for arbitration.
The court, in its detailed Award de Ederer on Thursday, accepted Pakistan’s stance and rejected India’s objections and affirmed its competence. In relation to India’s non-appearance before the court, the PCA concluded that a party’s non-appearance did not deprive the court of competence, nor did it have any effect on the establishment and functioning of the court, including the final and binding nature of its awards.
At the same time, India’s non-appearance does not lessen the court’s standing duty to verify that it is competent and that it has jurisdiction over the dispute before it.
Pakistan desired to have its disputes resolved through the court of arbitration. India opposed it and scuttled the process by filing a parallel request for the appointment of a neutral expert. After filing a parallel request, India challenged the court of arbitration’s empanelment by saying that parallel proceedings cannot take place under the treaty. India wanted the court to declare the COA illegal.
......
Gautam
This topic is covered by other Pak newspapers. Even if they win, can they enforce any judgement against a sovereign state, India in this case?

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Jul 2023 12:08

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/108774 ... k-position
Controversial Kishanganga, Ratle projects: Hague court rejects India’s all six objections, upholds Pak position

This topic is covered by other Pak newspapers. Even if they win, can they enforce any judgement against a sovereign state, India in this case?

India is not even participating in the Hague court proceedings saying Pakistan's decision to approach the court is illegal as per IWT so no I don't think Hague court can enforce anything but would like to hear from the experts here.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 06490.html

NEW DELHI: India on Thursday made it clear it will not join proceedings initiated by Pakistan at the Permanent Court of Arbitration over two hydropower projects in Kashmir that has ruled it was competent to consider and determine the disputes.

The Indian side has contended that Pakistan’s move to approach the Hague-based tribunal was illegal since the disputes were already being addressed by a neutral expert under the provisions of the Indus Waters Treaty. Earlier this year, India also sought the modification of the six-decade-old treaty because of the Pakistani side’s “intransigence”.

Asked about the Permanent Court of Arbitration’s ruling, external affairs ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi told a regular media briefing that India’s position has always been that the proceedings at the Hague-based tribunal are not consistent with the Indus Waters Treaty and are “patently illegal”.

“Our consistent and principled position has been that the constitution of this so-called court of arbitration is in contravention of the clear letter and spirit of the Indus Waters Treaty. A neutral expert is already seized of the differences pertaining to the Kishanganga and the Ratle [hydropower projects],” he said.