Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 29 Aug 2023 06:27

"Article 35A of the Indian Constitution that was scrapped in 2019, ‘took away fundamental rights'"

I had to read The Chindu (a new paper I generally refuse to read) to understand the full context. This is what the Chief Justice said. "Article 35A gave special rights and privileges to permanent residents and virtually took away the rights for non-residents. These rights included the right to equal opportunity of State employment, right to acquire property and the right to settle in Jammu and Kashmir".

The Chief Justice is clear in his observation that fundamental rights of Indian citizens, which were available to them else where, is not given to them when it comes to J&K. So the CJI is right in observing that 35A was an Article which took away fundamental rights (of Indian citizens in the state of J&K).Articles 14 to 30 in Part III of Constitution of India is what is generally considered to be the fundamental rights available to Indian citizens. Articles 32 to 35A were more related to right to constitutional remedies, and Article 35A actually put a block on seeking such remedies when it comes to the state of J&K.

Indian Constitution allows reasonable classification, but not class legislation. Article 35A, IMHO was a kind of class legislation by which a large class/group of Indians were denied their fundamental rights just inside the state of J&K (which was available for them in rest of India).

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 29 Aug 2023 08:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZMTRW_gKo

Why BJP can become a force in Tamil Nadu,why Annamalai is so popular

i think we are seeing a Future PM in the making

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 29 Aug 2023 16:00

Atmavik wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 08:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZMTRW_gKo

Why BJP can become a force in Tamil Nadu,why Annamalai is so popular

i think we are seeing a Future PM in the making

Have some ghee sugar....

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Aug 2023 16:33

Meanwhile, back at the ranch......

the dotty alliance is just getting hung out to dry, and the congis in KAR are gob smacked, do they continue to subsidize the LPG cylinders or not.....

https://www.thehindu.com/elections/karn ... 800311.ece

"PM Modi has decided Rs 200 reduction in the price of domestic LPG cylinders, for all users...this is a gift from PM Narendra Modi, to the women of the country, during the occasion of Raksha Bandhan", says Union Minister Anurag Thakur

https://www.timesnownews.com/business-e ... -103173690

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Aug 2023 16:41

latest India today cover

the pappu parade seems to be thinning out, even the faithful darbaris and chatookars seem to have realised what an uphill task it is to keep launching and relaunching he who simply cannot be resurrected

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Aug 2023 17:50

"PM Modi has decided Rs 200 reduction in the price of domestic LPG cylinders, for all users...this is a gift from PM Narendra Modi, to the women of the country, during the occasion of Raksha Bandhan", says Union Minister Anurag Thakur.

Great strategy ... will reduce inflation too. If they had done this earlier, they would have saved HP and/or Karnataka too
Tomato prices down. Oil companies can reduce prices by Rs 10-15 too

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Aug 2023 20:24

lulloo needs to be taught another unforgettable lesson, and his class should be taken at the earliest

@ANI·5h
Patna | "Mumbai mein Narendra Modi ke nareti (throat) pe chadhne jaa rahe hain humlog. Narendra Modi ka nareti pakde huye hain hum, hatana hai," RJD chief Lalu Prasad Yadav says, ahead of the Mumbai meeting of the INDIA alliance

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Aug 2023 20:44

the govt should not forget that it takes just one very ugly incident to cast a black cloud over India's global reputation

limit your exposure and do not tempt fate by being needlessly over ambitious, especially when media hyped international players are involved

the plate is already full for the forthcoming state elections, and also for 2024, so don't overload it by diverting your attention to frivolous activities

we have nothing to prove to anyone that we haven't already proved to the G-20 and many other nations........

Kashmir To Host Miss World Pageant, Yet Another Landmark Event After G20's Success

https://kashmirobserver.net/2023/08/28/ ... d-pageant/

Srinagar- After the G20- global event, the stage is all set for the 71st Miss World 2023 contest in Kashmir where 140 countries would participate later this year.

In this regard, a press meet was organized at SKICC here in Srinagar in which Miss World Karolina Bielawska, Miss India Sini Shetty, Miss World Caribbean Emmy Pena, Miss Caribbean and Miss England were present.

Miss World Karolina Bielawska while addressing the media, said that the Kashmir Valley has everything and it is the best place to host the event like Miss World.

Miss World Karolina Bielawska, Miss India Sini Shetty, Miss World Caribbean Emmy Pena, Miss Caribbean, and Miss England, arrive in cashmere on day-long tour.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Aug 2023 01:01

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1696578469415866563

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1692881631235964998
Ajit & gang will really help in pulling the cart in complex situation or not will only be realised once the elections for Loksabha are announced & model code of conduct takes place. Anyways, they will return back if 2024 goes awry

Is Pawar gang got inside NDA and weaken them before election? Did BJP fall for it?

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 30 Aug 2023 02:06

Sachin wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 06:27
"Article 35A of the Indian Constitution that was scrapped in 2019, ‘took away fundamental rights'"
I had to read The Chindu (a new paper I generally refuse to read) to understand the full context. This is what the Chief Justice said. "Article 35A gave special rights and privileges to permanent residents and virtually took away the rights for non-residents. These rights included the right to equal opportunity of State employment, right to acquire property and the right to settle in Jammu and Kashmir".
The Chief Justice is clear in his observation that fundamental rights of Indian citizens, which were available to them else where, is not given to them when it comes to J&K. So the CJI is right in observing that 35A was an Article which took away fundamental rights (of Indian citizens in the state of J&K).Articles 14 to 30 in Part III of Constitution of India is what is generally considered to be the fundamental rights available to Indian citizens. Articles 32 to 35A were more related to right to constitutional remedies, and Article 35A actually put a block on seeking such remedies when it comes to the state of J&K.
Indian Constitution allows reasonable classification, but not class legislation. Article 35A, IMHO was a kind of class legislation by which a large class/group of Indians were denied their fundamental rights just inside the state of J&K (which was available for them in rest of India).

Sachinji,
Some how I was under the impression that the right to settle in any part of India is not a fundamental right, as it is in the US, and that in some states of the NE (Mizoram?), Indian citizens can not settle and acquire property. Is this correct? or am I just imagining things in my old age.
Gautam

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Aug 2023 04:24

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 30 Aug 2023 05:50

chetak wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 16:33 the dotty alliance ...

How about nutty dottys?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 Aug 2023 06:06

chetak wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 16:41 latest India today cover

the pappu parade seems to be thinning out, even the faithful darbaris and chatookars seem to have realised what an uphill task it is to keep launching and relaunching he who simply cannot be resurrected

He will come back at the center. How about the States? There seems to be some rot at the State level that needs to be rectified.

williams · Post by **williams** » 30 Aug 2023 10:02

NRao wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 06:06
chetak wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 16:41 latest India today cover

the pappu parade seems to be thinning out, even the faithful darbaris and chatookars seem to have realised what an uphill task it is to keep launching and relaunching he who simply cannot be resurrected

He will come back at the center. How about the States? There seems to be some rot at the State level that needs to be rectified.

Pappu stands anywhere he is going to mess up. One he is going to insult the local leaders with any practical brain. Then he will screw up all his alliances through arrogance. Finally, he will make some dumb political statement that his opposition will have a field day. Lather, rinse, and repeat the same is his simple political philosophy.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 30 Aug 2023 13:05

The addiction of Hindus to anti-Hindu and corrupt Congress is disgusting and shows lack of brains and self-respect.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 30 Aug 2023 14:31

Why do I get a feeling that it’s CCP pulling the strings attached to Shri Pappuji and not Sorass and western gang
The places Pappu has visited have been activated by Chinese sleeper cells
NE, Ladakh, South with Lanka ship docking ( I have a strong feeling that Kerala as LS seat was not just a safe bet)
G20 meeting next what can we expect to upset this
Later anything else that we can think of ???

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Aug 2023 14:48

Dont forget Thailand and Burma mediation trips.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Aug 2023 19:53

g.sarkar wrote:Some how I was under the impression that the right to settle in any part of India is not a fundamental right

Your understanding is not really correct. Art 19 (1)(d) states that citizens of India have the right "to move freely throughout the territory of India" and Art 19(1)(e) states that"to reside and settle in any part of the territory of India". So Indian citizens have rights to move and settle down in any part of Indian territory. Union or States can place reasonable restrictions and have state specific laws but that should be mainly on the interests of "the sovereignty and integrity of India, the security of the State". It cannot be on religious grounds etc. Art. 16 of CoI talks about equality in matters of public employement. No citizen shall, on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, descent,
place of birth, residence or any of them, be ineligible for, or discriminated against"in respect of, any employment or office under the State.". How ever states can have reasonable restrictions. For example for certain jobs in KA, the government can say that the candidate should know Kannada language at 10th Std level.

The problem with Art. 35A is that it allowed the state of J&K to define 'permenant residents' of the state, and then provide special rights and privileges to them. No state in Indian Union have such a right given to them by a special provision in the Constituition. This was once again the idea of Shri. Bandit-ji.

The Sixth Schedule of CoI exclusively deals with - "Provisions as to the Administration of Tribal Areas in the States of Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura and Mizoram.". Here the tribal area would have autonomous councils which also have some law making powers. These provisions were mainly to protect the indegenous tribal communities and their unique way of life. My personal opinion is that sooner or later this too should go. These tribes have any way came out of their true tribal life style any ways, and have adjusted to the main stream society.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Aug 2023 20:06

Plus, special provisions for tribals are also somewhat linked to forests, etc. and need to be saved. Moreover, these constitutional provisions are correctly made and not done by a Presidential Order like 35A.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Aug 2023 22:14

Rishi Bagree @rishibagree
I.N.D.I.A updates

Cong & Left will fight with each other in Kerala

AAP & Cong will field candidates against each other in Punjab,Delhi & Gujarat

Mamata won't enter in seat-sharing with Cong+Left in West Bengal

No alliance between SP & Cong in UP

NCP & SS joins NDA

Is this true?

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 30 Aug 2023 22:34

vijayk wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 04:24

With the Khangress decimated after Telangana formation the BJP was supposed to be the only viable alternative to TRS and initially made big gains. But all that seems now lost and the goons are going to be back. Big big loss. The messing out with local leadership without understanding the ground realities is to blame..cant think of any other reason Khangress was allowed to grow.

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 30 Aug 2023 22:38

Sachin wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 19:53 The Sixth Schedule of CoI exclusively deals with - "Provisions as to the Administration of Tribal Areas in the States of Assam, Meghalaya, Tripura and Mizoram.". Here the tribal area would have autonomous councils which also have some law making powers. These provisions were mainly to protect the indegenous tribal communities and their unique way of life. My personal opinion is that sooner or later this too should go. These tribes have any way came out of their true tribal life style any ways, and have adjusted to the main stream society.

There need to be re-evaluation of Tribal provisions. When a tribe come out of their true tribal life style and joined main stream why they continue need the special rights and protection and how long?

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 31 Aug 2023 01:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_i94MSdtKg

Very amusing remarks from none other than Owaisi. Translation, ''poor idiots, don't even know how to copy"

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 31 Aug 2023 03:05

Thanks Sachinji.
When I was living in Ranchi, a part of Bihar then in the 60s, it was not legal to buy land from Adivasis of that area (Chhota Nagpur). This was done to protect the tribals, who were rumored to sell their land for a bottle of desi alcohol. However, the corrupt always found ways to circumvent the laws. There are many such laws in India that actually help the goons instead of the poorer section that it was supposed to help. If there are laws that prohibit people from settling and owning property, you are actually undermining the idea of the Union of India.
Gautam

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 31 Aug 2023 13:43

vijayk wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 04:24

I don't know what surveys they are talking about, but BRS is the favorite, especially in assembly elections.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 31 Aug 2023 13:55

g.sarkar wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023 03:05 Thanks Sachinji.
When I was living in Ranchi, a part of Bihar then in the 60s, it was not legal to buy land from Adivasis of that area (Chhota Nagpur). This was done to protect the tribals, who were rumored to sell their land for a bottle of desi alcohol. However, the corrupt always found ways to circumvent the laws. There are many such laws in India that actually help the goons instead of the poorer section that it was supposed to help. If there are laws that prohibit people from settling and owning property, you are actually undermining the idea of the Union of India.Gautam

Gautam ji,

AFAIK, this restriction is only in tribal, ecologically sensitive, and environmentally precarious pockets

Be that as it may, the jihadi cashmeris are not disallowed from owning land in the rest of India, and this one way religious appeasement narrative is very unhelpful and unfair

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 31 Aug 2023 15:04

Sachin wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 19:53 The problem with Art. 35A is that it allowed the state of J&K to define 'permenant residents' of the state, and then provide special rights and privileges to them. No state in Indian Union have such a right given to them by a special provision in the Constituition. This was once again the idea of Shri. Bandit-ji.

Right ! Thats because Bandit ji had gone to UN which suggested a plebiscite, which means no demographic change in J&K therefore no one outside was allowed to settle by the 3 family gangs, and they used every trick in the book for that. But the real benefit was that it allowed them unlimited loot and plunder. BTW, Pakis had no such qualms in PoK, one would be hard pressed to find a real Kashmiri there though they keep crying for plebiscite.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 31 Aug 2023 15:42

OMG special session end of September
As I suspected probably election time??
I had predicted earlier on that NaMo might call for early elections
I think this is in response to the BIFS local foot soldiers Sorass gang etc
This will upset the agenda setting of the motley crowd

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 31 Aug 2023 16:04

This will probably not be early elections, that too before Ram Mandir inauguration
1. It's either J&K and Ladakh statehood
2. Or They feel war with China is very likely in Oct 23, with Xi skipping G20 and economic issues with China and need to make some disclosures/laws

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 31 Aug 2023 16:32

Or it's

3. To introduce UCC

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 31 Aug 2023 18:41

https://www.opindia.com/2023/08/occrp-e ... explained/
George Soros and Ford Foundation may be planning another onslaught against Indian firms through OCCRP: Here is how the campaign may connect to NewsClick Chinese funding exposé

OCCRP's hitjob against Adani and Modi dropped today. Anand Mangnale, its current editor, has been associated with Chinese propaganda outlet NewsClick. OCCRP is funded by Geoge Soros' OSF and Ford Foundation. Details here in OpIndia's 25th August article

Have you seen the co-ordination between. Soros/OCCRP/PAPPU gang?

Just before elections, Parliament session they release these reports.

Just day before the day of dotted garbarge meeting, they release the report with same old nonsense

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 31 Aug 2023 18:46

rajkumar wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023 16:32 Or it's

3. To introduce UCC

Looks like it is. one nation one poll

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 31 Aug 2023 18:46

another speculation on WA - Bill for one country one election - all states and country goes for election at the sametime, and then there is 5 years to govern, rather than for electioneering and BIF gang setting country on fire every few months before an election.

Even though the above approach has merit, it has one fatal flaw. The dharmic side has to win every lok sabha, the BIF has to win any one to do the damage (just like terrorists, they have to succeed once to kill you, you have to succeed every time to be alive). Now the dharmic side may think they are unbeatable, but have been proven wrong multiple times when the BIF have bested them(like previous to previous Bihar election when BJP was supposedly winning 48 hours ago, or recent Karnataka election). The great thing about these loses are that the dharmic side has taken the right lesson, made correction and gone to win the next round. These multiple elections gives it a chance to do course correction and win the real prize(LS). By clubbing all elections together, that warning and course correction may not exist.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 31 Aug 2023 18:50

fanne wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023 18:46 another speculation on WA - Bill for one country one election - all states and country goes for election at the sametime, and then there is 5 years to govern, rather than for electioneering and BIF gang setting country on fire every few months before an election.

Even though the above approach has merit, it has one fatal flaw. The dharmic side has to win every lok sabha, the BIF has to win any one to do the damage (just like terrorists, they have to succeed once to kill you, you have to succeed every time to be alive). Now the dharmic side may think they are unbeatable, but have been proven wrong multiple times when the BIF have bested them(like previous to previous Bihar election when BJP was supposedly winning 48 hours ago, or recent Karnataka election). The great thing about these loses are that the dharmic side has taken the right lesson, made correction and gone to win the next round. These multiple elections gives it a chance to do course correction and win the real prize(LS). By clubbing all elections together, that warning and course correction may not exist.

Unfortunately BJP folks don't do deep thinking

They can also do. 50% states go to election after 2.5 years and another 50% and nation goes after 2.5 years

What happens when a state Govt. falls? Presidential rule until 2,5 year mark hits.

That will give them time to course correct. But these guys won't get the message

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 31 Aug 2023 18:53

@rishibagree 5:17 PM · Aug 31, 2023

I.N.D.I.A should adopt Condom as their symbol which accurately reflects their political stance coz :

It has lots of dots
It allows inflation
Halts production
Destroys next-Gen
Protect a bunch of pricks
Gives its voter a false sense of security while they're actually getting screwed

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 01 Sep 2023 08:50

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Gautam
Is this the beginning of 2024 elections?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Sep 2023 15:31

At least now, some powers that be must support this network

the harassment that arnab had to undergo in MAH is unacceptable and yet no one lifted a finger to help him.

Arnab Goswami’s Republic Media Network forays into Karnataka, takes over Kannada news channel Dighvijay 24×7

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/a ... nel-181777

This strategic move marks Republic Media Network's third foray into the regional news channel space. According to sources, the newly acquired channel is slated for launch on October 25, 2023.

Arnab Goswami had resigned as the editor-in-chief of Times Now in 2016, citing editorial differences. Following his departure, he announced his next ambitious venture, initially named Republic and later modified to Republic TV.

Republic Bharat, a Hindi language news channel was launched on February 2, 2019, timing coinciding with India's General Elections in 2019.

Republic TV launched Republic Bangla, a Bengali language news channel, on March 7, 2021.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 01 Sep 2023 19:45

https://twitter.com/TimesAlgebraIND/sta ... 7710429351
BIG NEWS - R Madhavan has been nominated as the President of the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII).

Great news! Very strategic to identify patriotic people and replace the eco-ssytem of filthy Chinese/Paki/Soros sympathizer scums

https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/ ... 4810705328
vision to remove Article 370 twenty-five year ago

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 01 Sep 2023 20:11

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Sep 2023 09:17

via:opindia