India's G20 Presidency 2023

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Harish wrote: 10 Sep 2023 22:41 Inside the talks leading to a step-down in the G20’s Ukraine declaration
And certainly not due to Modiji's leadership or Indian diplomacy. But only because the West charitably elevated Modiji to the level of a global statesman.
West's/Europe'/US reaction:
What does this idiot Kevin Liptak from CNN say:
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POTUS's reaction was mode dignified..
The partnership between India and the United States is rooted in Mahatma Gandhi’s principal of trusteeship – trusteeship that is shared between our countries and for our shared planet.

Thank you, Prime Minister for bringing us here today.
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India's exports of Burnol to G7 countries reported to have increased 10x ;)
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P.M. From France
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https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lims-india

I am impressed with the Muslim outrage industry’s indefatigablity. Every time you see them, they have flames shooting out of their a$$.
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Ice-cold, not that they don't deserve it:
Prime Minister's meeting with the Prime Minister of Canada
Prime Minister met Prime Minister of Canada H.E. Mr. Justin Trudeau on 10th September on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in New Delhi.

Prime Minister Trudeau congratulated Prime Minister on the success of India's G20 Presidency.

Prime Minister highlighted that India-Canada relations are anchored in shared democratic values, respect for rule of law and strong people-to-people ties. He conveyed our strong concerns about continuing anti-India activities of extremist elements in Canada. They are promoting secessionism and inciting violence against Indian diplomats, damaging diplomtic premises, and threatening the Indian community in Canada and their places of worship. The nexus of such forces with organized crime, drug syndicates and human trafficking should be a concern for Canada as well. It is essential for the two countries to cooperate in dealing with such threats.

Prime Minister also mentioned that a relationship based on mutual respect and trust is essential for the progress of India-Canada relationship.
MEA earns a new respect .... Meanwhile His plane is stuck in India -- some technical difficulties ... couldn't happen to a more deserving candidate...
And yes, that person skipped the dinner hosted by President of Bharat.

(He was royally rebuffed by UK, USA, Australia ... you name it ... even for China, Turkey etc..Modi was more gracious...)
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sanjaykumar wrote: 11 Sep 2023 01:31 https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lims-india

I am impressed with the Muslim outrage industry’s indefatigablity. Every time you see them, they have flames shooting out of their a$$.
So what does she want? Modi waiting at the tarmac with an album saying “Here is Raimatullah, whose illegally constructed house got pulled down after he decided to draw attention to the plight of his leaders not being in power by burning down public property…. And over here is Kashmiri Gul-something, who got those flies on his cornea because he decided to come across our border and let loose his POF stamped AK47”

The faction fight and votebank appeasements in the west are getting silly, if they are giving space to these token-greenmussels that cling on to some hard surface and feed off the effluents

I suspect True-doo has some RAPE paki as his advisor. His counter-allegations about India interfering in Canada internal affairs sounds like the “million Raa agints marching across Balochistan” counter of pakis
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I went to the FT and boy the comments you see would make you think it’s a tabloid :mrgreen: I wonder if they will still have any bile left after 2024 is done and dusted!
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Initial analysis of outcomes of the G20 summit

1. African Union admitted to G20
2. Consensus on ukraine war
3. Full consensus on Delhi Declaration
4. Global Biofuels alliance
5. Digital public infrastructure (DPI)
6. Bilateral agreements with all major countries
7. India-MiddleEast-Europe economic corridor.



African union is placing India above China, they have been burned by China already, debt trap, resources being plundered, China's useless vaccine for COVID and general distrust of anything China. Getting a consensus on Ukraine is like breaking the Guardian Knot. DPI is India's trump card, now all nations will line up to get key tech from India and the days of commerce players like Amazon, Walmart, Google, Visa, MasterCard, AmEx are numbered. India is signing bilaterals with all nations left, right and center. Number 7 is a massive dagger in China's BRI and Emperor Eleven is looking mighty forlorn that his investments are down the drain. Eleven is now fearful of the Africans, who have realised that India is a better bet. Nigeria is signing up many deals with India and so are other nations. If you look at the 2-wheeler market in Africa, Indian brands dominate, the Chinese brands are shunned as poor quality and others are expensive. India has managed to provide quality at lower cost. Now just see what happens whence UPI, ONDC etc are provided by India and the transformations that can catapult African nations in the digital space. Russia is fully onboard with Delhi Declaration.

Modiji and EAM Jaishankar knocked this one out of the park/sixer (a baseball term/cricket). Consensus was achieved, more camaraderie with diverse nations, e.g. west is peeved at not condemning Russia, China is not happy with mention of terrorism (their Paki pal), Russia is not happy with mention of Ukraine... but.. but.. all of them agreed to the wording of the Declaration. African union is more than happy being admitted. This is leadership by India/Bharat in the world. India is a balancing power because India believes in Dharma and the world is one big family.

The icing on the cake was the Bharat Stall with Nataraja, Konark wheel, Indian dancers, complete Bharat Theme, Food, dress, Bharat hospitality. PM of UK Rishi Sunak reaffirming his Hindu Faith (a direct rebuke of Princeling U. stalin's call for eradication of Sanatan Dharma). I hope the day would come when all the old sanskrit texts of India are available on-line with translations in all languages. This would awaken everyone of how much the Britshits stole from India and repackaged them as theirs. Time for UK to return all the stolen stuff and payback in tranches - start immediate payment of the 45T.
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KL Dubey wrote: 10 Sep 2023 03:15
bala wrote: 10 Sep 2023 01:29 That Japanese lady is wife of EAM Jaishankar.
Just FYI - that is indeed Yuko Kishida, not Kyoko Jaishankar.
Oops I saw this image amongst many and commented ..

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That Japanese lady is wife of EAM Jaishankar.

Sorry about the confusion.
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Does anyone remember BBBW pompously announced by Biden regime soon after it assumed power? Thats what the world no longer buys - forced loyalty based on fake promises. Just like 100B a year for fighting climate change. Lot of reasons to buy Burnol.
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Cyrano wrote: 11 Sep 2023 14:27 Does anyone remember BBBW pompously announced by Biden regime soon after it assumed power? Thats what the world no longer buys - forced loyalty based on fake promises. Just like 100B a year for fighting climate change. Lot of reasons to buy Burnol.
It got killed by the Republicans who didn't want to give Biden anything.
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I am wondering on lack of planning and time to respond to canada PM aircraft issue by there gov

- its not that they knew about it after they baorded the plane - highly unlikely or they dont have any checks and balances in place
- why the aircraft on standby was not dispacted; its almost 36 hours now
- did they ask any help from India to repair ?
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nits wrote: 12 Sep 2023 12:20 I am wondering on lack of planning and time to respond to canada PM aircraft issue by there gov
Kanadda has sent a military plane to pick him up. He is probably on the way home now. What I read is that they do have a new VIP plane fleet but not ready in time for G20. Anyway, it has been amusing to see this fellow make an ass of himself.
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India Offered 'Air India One' To Canadian PM Justin Trudeau After Plane Troubles Left Him Stranded In Delhi Following G20 Summit
by Swarajya Staff-Tuesday, September 12, 2023 09:01 PM IST
CanduPappu is still stuck in Delhi.

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/indi ... g20-summit
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Overstayed his welcome in every possible way.
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India's G20 will be a hard act to follow:

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/wh ... 14892.html

Araku coffee... on shopping my list next time !
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Wonder if they should be announcing such things in the media.
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drnayar wrote: 09 Sep 2023 19:32 Impressive feat nevertheless.. the ones smarting the most would be the chinese .. aam admi in paki land would even be proud because they are in soooth asia :mrgreen:

"India’s G20 Presidency has been the most ambitious in the history of G-20. 73 outcomes (lines of effort) and 39 annexed documents (presidency documents, not including Working Group outcome documents)."

“PM (Modi) had assured the (African Union President ) that under the Indian G 20 presidency, it would certainly be done…And you have seen that he has delivered this assurance that he had made. During the BRICS summit, the then (AU) president came to the PM and he reminded him that you had assured us and you really impacted it,”

India has walked the talk.

Is there any other country in the world that is more fit to be a full veto member of the UNSC ?
Modi-Jaishanks strategy is to stake India’s claim for permanent membership, but in the meantime work and deliver results at the level of a permanent member.
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disha wrote: 12 Sep 2023 21:10
India Offered 'Air India One' To Canadian PM Justin Trudeau After Plane Troubles Left Him Stranded In Delhi Following G20 Summit
by Swarajya Staff-Tuesday, September 12, 2023 09:01 PM IST
CanduPappu is still stuck in Delhi.

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/indi ... g20-summit
There is more funny stuff. The military plane also got diverted to the UK and did not show up in Delhi. Instead, Kanaddis sent some guy on a commercial flight carrying airplane parts that were used to fix up the A310 so Turdeau and his brat could get their azzes home.
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KLNMurthy wrote: 13 Sep 2023 05:29
Wonder if they should be announcing such things in the media.
Even better, cheaper & safer - announce it in the media but don't actually have an armoury.
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KLNMurthy wrote: 13 Sep 2023 05:39 Modi-Jaishanks strategy is to stake India’s claim for permanent membership, but in the meantime work and deliver results at the level of a permanent member.
The fruit falls from the tree when it gets ripe. So wait for the time to come. Do not hurry. ... Wait, have patience, everything will come right in time.

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News article in TOI(let) says Chinese tried to get suspicious bag into Taj and refused to allow security to scan and finally sent it to the Chinese embassy...
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/12/worl ... south.html

Grudging acknowledgement form NYT. Instead of some soul searching on questions like
Why did the G20 fail to give AU a seat at the table all these years?
Why did the developed countries fail to understand the concerns of the global South?
Why can't they see the world as a family like India does?
Is the G7 format relevant any more?
Do they recognise that the post WW2 institutions are getting obsolete?
What exactly do they offer as a model for the future?
Are they even thinking beyond the obsession of the moment ie the Ukraine war?
Ityadi...
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thank you Lisa ji
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Curious about this bit "In one video of a side meeting, the leaders, including Mr. Modi, all waited as Mr. Xi arrived to shake hands. They remained standing until after Mr. Xi had settled into a much larger seat than theirs — an entire sofa."

cant see this anywhere else or even a video ! .. is NYT pulling this out of thin air ?!
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Curious about this bit "In one video of a side meeting, the leaders, including Mr. Modi, all waited as Mr. Xi arrived to shake hands. They remained standing until after Mr. Xi had settled into a much larger seat than theirs — an entire sofa."
cant see this anywhere else or even a video ! .. is NYT pulling this out of thin air ?!
Conveniently forgot to mention the video where Emperor's staffer/translator was locked out and Emperor was lost for a moment...after print they are going to kill even online text media with such creative insights.. :wink:
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The amrikis want(ed) beediland's hasina out, they were gunning for a regime change.

https://scroll.in/latest/1047161/sheikh ... bangladesh

The alternative to sheikh hasina is too complicated for India to deal with, as she is virulently anti India and very pro cheen.

Modi ji, who had already cautioned the amrikis to steer clear of such a foolhardy course of action, invited hasina to the G20 as a guest, introduced her to sleepy joe and wonder of wonders, sleepy joe and hasina got selfies together. Hopefully, they will now leave hasina alone to do her thing. BTW, hasina's pal, mumtaz bano was also around during the g20 dinner gala.

dollars to donuts (or takas to tomatoes), the amrikis may be easing off on the regime change thingie, Modi having shown them more agreeable alternatives to regime change, because after the afpak pullout, the mess that has been left at India’s northwestern frontier has landed dilli in a tricky situation. A similar situation on the northeastern border of the country would be much too complex for India, especially with the cheen showing keen interest to ratchet up the tensions here to further pressurize India on the ladakh front ......
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drnayar wrote: 13 Sep 2023 13:50
Curious about this bit "In one video of a side meeting, the leaders, including Mr. Modi, all waited as Mr. Xi arrived to shake hands. They remained standing until after Mr. Xi had settled into a much larger seat than theirs — an entire sofa."
cant see this anywhere else or even a video ! .. is NYT pulling this out of thin air ?!
Chinese would have sent in a team just to ensure that all these small pieces of drama were agreed to and orchestrated. They are cheap enough to do this, and they have so far been weaponizing such visuals and situations to the fullest though it's all coming crashing down. I heard that they insisted Xi would come to South Africa on a state visit in addition to BRICS, just so he got the full welcome and honours. The big sofa might have also been "written into the contract" as would have been his arrival at the very end - and out of plain courtesy the rest of the leaders didn't sit down till they all arrived. Petty behaviour but that's what it has always been.
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yensoy wrote: 14 Sep 2023 00:26
drnayar wrote: 13 Sep 2023 13:50
Curious about this bit "In one video of a side meeting, the leaders, including Mr. Modi, all waited as Mr. Xi arrived to shake hands. They remained standing until after Mr. Xi had settled into a much larger seat than theirs — an entire sofa."
cant see this anywhere else or even a video ! .. is NYT pulling this out of thin air ?!
Chinese would have sent in a team just to ensure that all these small pieces of drama were agreed to and orchestrated. They are cheap enough to do this, and they have so far been weaponizing such visuals and situations to the fullest though it's all coming crashing down. I heard that they insisted Xi would come to South Africa on a state visit in addition to BRICS, just so he got the full welcome and honours. The big sofa might have also been "written into the contract" as would have been his arrival at the very end - and out of plain courtesy the rest of the leaders didn't sit down till they all arrived. Petty behaviour but that's what it has always been.
pretty sure NYT was paid to say this as well !! "“Money talks,” said Ziyanda Stuurman, a senior analyst with the Eurasia Group’s Africa Team. “Whether it’s India or the U.S. or Europe, if they are not able to match or be as serious as China with rolling out funding, China will still enjoy this place of leadership.”

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There are lot of reviews articles and YouTube videos on G-20 outcome.
We can summarize as an outstanding achievement of India.

Please post detailed analysis.
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https://sundayguardianlive.com/investig ... -delhi-way
Checkmating Xi, the G20 Delhi way
Vijay Kranti, September 17, 2023

The inclusion of the 55-member African Union has been rightly hailed as a positive step towards involving the African nations into the international system more intimately. But this is also a step towards freeing China’s suffocating grip on the United Nations and other international institutions.
The decision of Chinese President Xi Jinping not to attend the G20 Summit in New Delhi resulted in much speculation. Some believe it was his way of snubbing India and Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Others believe that it was beyond his tolerance level to see PM Modi in the international limelight. Some more China watchers think that the absence reflected Xi’s sense of insecurity and uneasiness due to internal troubles in Chinese Communist Party and the People’s Liberation Army. But now that the Summit is over, it is time to see what impact the G20 may have on the world’s relations with China.
One thing which no China watcher can afford to ignore is the more than visible China-centricity of the Summit’s deliberations and decisions. Many decisions taken at the New Delhi Summit were focused at challenging the arrogance, aggression and authoritarian conduct of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and its “Paramount Leader” Xi Jinping, who is visualising his PRC as the “Middle Kingdom” and himself as the “Divine Power” assigned by the heavens to rule the earth.
The most visible decision of the Summit was the announcement of the India, Middle East, Europe Corridor (IMEC). Mainly the brainchild of US President Joe Biden, this is a direct challenge to President Xi who launched his Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) in 2013, just a year after he took over the reins of China. The MOU on IMEC was signed by the US, India, European Union, UAE and Saudi Arabia. It involves integrating the already operative road, rail and sea links from India to Eastern Europe to establish a dedicated and a fast freight corridor for common use of all the countries along the route and the European Union. The corridor can be later extended to cover the African continent also. It looks like the first stage of Joe Biden’s “Build Back Better World” project, which was launched by the G7 in June 2021 as a counter to Xi’s BRI.
Through the BRI, Xi started investing hundreds of billions of dollars in the development of infrastructure projects like roads, sea ports, railway lines and airports in nearly 150 countries. The idea attracted not only poor countries but even well to do countries like Italy, Austria, Brunei, Czech Republic, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, New Zealand, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Singapore and South Africa. Thanks to PRC’s fine art of bribery, intimidation and corruption, most agreements on BRI projects are turning out to be too expensive to be viable for the host countries. As a result, China, the cunning moneylender, has started confiscating the projects in the name of settling accounts. Pakistan’s Gwadar port, which is part of China-Pakistan’s CPEC from Xinjiang to the Arabian Sea, and Sri Lanka’s Hambantota port and the Colombo Port City are some glaring examples. Despite multilayers of secrecy and camouflage, popular estimates say that Xi has already invested far above equivalent of US$1 trillion and has plans to touch $8 trillion if everything goes as per Xi’s dreams. With the Chinese economy nose-diving for many reasons beyond Xi or his Communist Party’s control the IMEC can prove to be BRI’s last nail.
The inclusion of the 55-member African Union has been rightly hailed as a positive step towards involving the African nations into the international system more intimately. But the impact which this step is going to have on freeing China’s suffocating grip over the United Nations and other international institutions is hardly being discussed. It is on the strength of the votes of many of these African and other economically vulnerable, small countries that China has been holding organisations like the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) and World Health Organization (WHO) to ransom. Records of voting in UNHRC over the years show that leave aside discussing and reprimanding China for its appalling record on human rights in its colonies like Tibet and East Turkistan (Xinjiang), Beijing could use these votes every time to stop the world body from even taking up the matter for discussion. India’s emergence as a new bridge between the developed western bloc and Africa is going to make it difficult for China to keeping dominating developing countries and grab the rich natural resources of these poor countries.
Similarly, the new approach adopted by G20 about the role and financial capacity of multilateral development banks is going to be a great relief for most developing countries. The presence of heads of leading financial institutions like the World Band (WB) and International Monitory Fund (IMF) at the G20 further made it reassuring. Higher allocation for funds on much easier terms as compared to the opaque Chinese system is bound to wean away the developing world from Chinese financial and political influence.
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