India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 16 Sep 2023 13:19

Total Canadian trade is <1% in total Indian trade. Let them suck lemons!

P.S. Just for perspective, total UK foreign trade with India is <2% of total Indian trade. They can also go suck ......

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 16 Sep 2023 13:33

Lisa wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023 13:19 Total Canadian trade is <1% in total Indian trade. Let them suck lemons!

P.S. Just for perspective, total UK foreign trade with India is <2% of total Indian trade. They can also go suck ......

Lisa ji,

It's time to show keneda both its aukat and its geopolitical irrelevance

India has expressed not only it's disinterest, and also its stand on the undesirability of the visit of the Canada trade minister's visit at this time, while major and long standing political issues concerning India, and awaiting satisfactory resolution, are pending with ottawa.

The ball is now in squarely in justinder's court

One thinks that the dumb canucks don't really want to go down this route

Earlier on Friday, India said it had paused trade talks with Canada. Canada made a similar announcement earlier this month, saying such a pause was needed to "take stock".

Only about four months ago the two nations said they aimed to seal an initial trade agreement this year.

Canada trade minister is postponing a planned trade mission to India

https://www.thestar.com/politics/ng-pos ... e1f77.html

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 16 Sep 2023 13:54

You need to hurt them where it hurts. Most Indians have an OCI. There is no canadian equivalent, they have to issue visas. We need to close all their consulates in India and expel their staff, particularly the one in Chandigarh. It costs us nothing except the saving we make by withdrawing our consular staff from Canada. Their high commissions staffs life in Delhi will change irrevocably.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 16 Sep 2023 14:13

Lisa wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023 13:54 You need to hurt them where it hurts. Most Indians have an OCI. There is no canadian equivalent, they have to issue visas. We need to close all their consulates in India and expel their staff, particularly the one in Chandigarh. It costs us nothing except the saving we make by withdrawing our consular staff from Canada. Their high commissions staffs life in Delhi will change irrevocably.

Lisa ji,

justinder's days are numbered. He is a dead duck

the canucks will be backs with their tongues hanging out, pressured by the same turban tomboys to mend fences with India, because their entry into India will be made difficult.....

As a fault, Hindus are needlessly forgiving, and always end up paying a huge price for their one way generosity

pakis, nepalis, maldivians, and beedis are prime examples of India's misplaced and one way accommodation of their never ending demands

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 16 Sep 2023 14:17

Don't confuse Turdeau with Canada. Closing embassies etc are very drastic steps, that will raise an outcry from our own people wanting to go to Canada. What is required is to expose Trudeau's two faced deceit and lies and discredit Khalistan movement.

At the moment, we are doing a fine job towards that.

What will be a good idea is to raise the matter of Kanisha bombing at all international fora and ensure every Canadian realises the threat these terrorists and their supporters like Turdeau are.

S_Madhukar · Post by **S_Madhukar** » 16 Sep 2023 14:26

I think a message needs to go to the Maple syrup suckers that sweet faces and dirty politicians at the cost of India relations won’t be allowed. The K stanis are not going anywhere and if more people from that mindset immigrate it will only keep festering…we don’t want another UK Labour Party in that world.
The goras should rein in their kid’s behaviour and not think India is some charity number that can be played to show off their humanitarian concern to impress their chatterati

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 16 Sep 2023 14:34

I try to be careful in what I say. These are consulates not a High Commission. I fail to understand why a county with <1% of Indian trade and a population of 2 large Indian cities needs 3 consulates. Close them. Lets show them how important they are and how relevant their concerns of where Indian soldiers deployment is on a visa application form.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 Sep 2023 19:51

I don’t think this type of humanitarian concern needs to be escalated.

There are many aboriginals who believe the Canadian state and its police forces are occupying powers.

Does India want to use this to score debating points and screen for history of employment?

Khalistanis have discredited the general Sikh population. I am sorry to report that Sikhs are viewed very negatively. Part of it is that many in this community live as if this is rural panjab.
The average Canadian is much too polite to express this.

But the sentiment cannot be missed. And it definitely puts Indians in general in a poor light.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 16 Sep 2023 20:19

Lisa wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023 14:34 I try to be careful in what I say. These are consulates not a High Commission. I fail to understand why a county with <1% of Indian trade and a population of 2 large Indian cities needs 3 consulates. Close them. Lets show them how important they are and how relevant their concerns of where Indian soldiers deployment is on a visa application form.

consulates are also required to keep tabs on whoever and whatever ! .. just look at what British consulates are doing in india and how "British aid" is being used.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 17 Sep 2023 03:18

India suspends FTA Talks with Canada | Will Canada Rue Trudeau's Indecisiveness? | NewsX

Negotiations for a free trade agreement (FTA) between India and Canada have been paused due to political concerns. The official said that India has raised objections to some political developments in Canada. The official said that negotiations will resume once the political issues are resolved.
The official announcement came after Canada said that negotiations were on hold. The two countries have held over half a dozen rounds of talks on the trade pact.
The official did not mention the Khalistan issue, which has created differences between the two countries. However, after a meeting between Modi and Trudeau during the G20 Summit, India released a statement that conveyed concerns about anti-India activities of extremist elements in Canada.
Gautam

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 17 Sep 2023 10:43

One way to look at this Canada's support of Khalistani "free speech" activists is that Khalistan is actually a proposed invasion of India, to occupy Indian sovereign territory to form a new state, by Canadian citizens or private militias of Canadian origin and therefore should be treated as a national security issue by Canada, which is certainly to be treated as not free speech and should be controlled by the government, unless Canada itself proposes to invade India

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drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 17 Sep 2023 18:01

Also what happens if the khalis decide india is too far away and want a separate state inside Kanada. Extremism is like a snake., once you start feeding it no way you can control it when $hit hits the fan

Kannada is the new Pakistan

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 17 Sep 2023 18:11

India should move a resolution in UN highlighting Canada as a state sponsor of terrorism. It will be defeated but it lays down markers…

Additionally it should take a leaf from Uncles book and come up with a State terrorism sponsor ranking. Pakistan obviously #1, but Canada should land in top 5. Release these every year, make the methodology public , put it on a website, sponsor think tanks with grand names and agenda to discuss like”Effect of state terror sponsorship on freedom of expression” “Canadian terror sponsorship- effect on marginalised communities like majhabi and Khatri Sikhs” “Canadian security forces - impact on indigenous population” “ Canadian money - sponsoring hate crimes on LBBTQ?”

The possibilities are endless.

srin · Post by **srin** » 17 Sep 2023 18:22

drnayar wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023 18:01 Also what happens if the khalis decide india is too far away and want a separate state inside Kanada. Extremism is like a snake., once you start feeding it no way you can control it when $hit hits the fan

Kannada is the new Pakistan

This is the option I'd promote if I were a policy maker. So, they think they support freedom of speech, human rights etc ? Let us see what happens they Khalistanis want to have a referendum to carve out Khalistan out of Canada. As an Indian, I firmly support this. We should start supplying maps of Khanalistan

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 17 Sep 2023 19:21

Most of Kanneda is empty so makes it perfect Khali sthan.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 17 Sep 2023 22:57

chetak wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023 14:13 Lisa ji,

justinder's days are numbered. He is a dead duck

Beware the power of Machine Politics.

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/machine-politics/

It has made a comeback and taken over in both US and Canada.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Sep 2023 02:10

Canadian comic expels Indian diplomat and claims India behind the Nijjar kill
https://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest- ... 766828.cms

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Sep 2023 02:22

Now CNN parroting - without reposting the slap Trudeau received from PM Modi.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas ... index.html

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 19 Sep 2023 02:27

Canada's woke nightmare: A warning to the West | Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2AuVQKpq0&t=8s

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 19 Sep 2023 02:29

Jordan Peterson: Narcissist Justin Trudeau has never said a true word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uNIfIe0wgE

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 02:34

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... der-in-b-c
Trudeau says Indian government linked to murder of Sikh leader in B.C.
Trudeau made the startling announcement Monday afternoon, saying he has raised the issue with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the recent G20 meetings
Ryan Tumilty, Bryan Passifiume, Sep 18, 2023
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Monday that Canada has credible information that the government of India was involved in the murder of a prominent British Columbia Sikh leader on Canadian soil in June.
Hardeep Singh Nijjar was shot dead in his truck by two masked gunmen as he left his Sikh temple in Surrey, B.C., on June 18. He was the president of the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara and a vocal supporter of the establishment of a separate state, called Khalistan, for Sikhs in India.
Trudeau said that Canadian security agencies have spent the last several weeks “actively pursuing credible allegations” that agents of the government of India were responsible for Nijjar’s death.
Trudeau made the startling announcement Monday afternoon in the House of Commons. He said he raised the issue with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during the recent G20 meetings.
“Any involvement of a foreign government in the killing of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty,” Trudeau said. “Canada declared its deep concerns to the top intelligence and security officials of the Indian government last week at the G20. I brought them personally and directly to Prime Minister Modi.”
Canada recently cancelled trade talks with India and a proposed Team Canada trade mission was cancelled over the weekend. Trudeau said the protection of Canadians is the primary focus.
“Canada is a rule of law country. The protection of our citizens and defence of our sovereignty are fundamental.”
Foreign Minister Melanie Joly said the allegation was troubling and a violation of Canadian sovereignty. She said U.S. President Joe Biden and U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak have been notified.
She also said she expelled India’s top diplomat from Canada on Monday.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stood in the House after Trudeau to address the allegation. He encouraged the Indian government to come clean and reveal what it knows about the attack.
“If these allegations are true, they represent an outrageous affront to Canada’s sovereignty,” he said. “Canadians deserve to be protected on Canadian soil. We call on the Indian government to act with utmost transparency as authorities investigate this murder, because the truth must come out.”
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Gautam
The fun begins.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 19 Sep 2023 02:57

Where is the evidence ., maybe kickout the Canadian diplomats as well

And wtf .." She said U.S. President Joe Biden and U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak have been notified"

As if uk and us are indias maa baap

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Sep 2023 03:05

The incompetent and impotent RCMP which botched up Air India Kanishka terrorist attack is apparently going the investigate the mythical Indian involvement in Nijjar murder. So it is not going anywhere for the next 100 years. TSP and Canada will jointly author dosas (dossiers) after dosas now!

Rana · Post by **Rana** » 19 Sep 2023 03:11

Waiting for India to expel a high ranking Canadian diplomat for encouraging and working with anti-India activists.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 03:17

They are (UK and the US) Canada's maa baap. Evidence is not needed in running foreign affairs, only rhetoric is needed. I do not see any reason why India would not expel a Canadian diplomat, as not doing so will be seen as India tacitly admitting guilt. JT does not have much to loose, as his ass has been kicked multiple times in India and in multiple occasions. But neither does India, our trade with Canada is not large enough to make a difference. We will just have to sit it out till there is a replacement for JT. In the meantime we just deal with the Khan.
Gautam
As I had written earlier, the down turn in India's relations with Canada is not just vote bank politics. There is more to it than just that. With JT, it has become personal for quite some time now, and he has been outmaneuvered by Namo at every step of the way.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 03:25

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/c ... 2023-09-19
Canada expels Indian diplomat over killing of Khalistani terrorist
Canada's Foreign Minister, Melanie Joly, has expelled an Indian diplomat over the killing of a Khalistani terrorist, Hardeep Singh Nijjar on June 18.
India Today News Desk, New Delhi, Sep 19, 2023
The Canadian foreign minister, Melanie Joly, on Monday expelled an Indian diplomat after the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed a potential link between the Indian government and the killing of a Khalistani terrorist, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, in June, reported news agency AP.
This came after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that the country's security agencies were investigating a link between the Indian government and the killing of the Khalistani terrorist.
As a consequence of this, Canadian Foreign Minister Melanie Joly said the head of Indian intelligence in Canada has been expelled.
"If proven true, this would be a great violation of our sovereignty and of the most basic rule of how countries deal with each other," Joly said. "As a consequence we have expelled a top Indian diplomat," Joly said, as quoted by AP.
She also said that the Justin Trudeau had raised the matter with US President Joe Biden.
WHAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU SAID
While speaking at the House of Commons in Ottawa, Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, said that Canadian security agencies had been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link between agents of the Government of India and the killing of a Canadian citizen, Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
Trudeau said he had brought up the issue with Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the G20 Summit as well.
"Canada has declared its deep concerns to the top intelligence security officials of the Indian government. Last week, at the G20, I brought them personally and directly to Prime Minister Modi in no uncertain terms," the Canadian Prime Minister said.
"In the strongest possible terms, I continue to urge the government of India to cooperate with Canada to get to the bottom of this matter," he said.
Trudeau said he knows there are some members of the Indo-Canadian community who feel angry or frightened, and he called for calm.
Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said Canada's national security advisor and the head of Canada's spy service have travelled to India to meet their counterparts and to confront the Indian intelligence agencies with the allegations. He called it an active homicide investigation.
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Gautam

Nsmith · Post by **Nsmith** » 19 Sep 2023 03:30

Full text of Turd-eau's statement in the Canadian parliament:

Let's hope that in response:

1. Bharat expels the Canadian high commissioner
2. Closes down (or significantly degrades the ops capabilities of) their consulates in Chandigarh, Mumbai and Bangalore
3. Revokes the OCI status enmasse for anyone remotely suspected of engaging in anti-Indian activities from Canadian soil
4. Awards the relevant RAA agents onlee

komal · Post by **komal** » 19 Sep 2023 03:56

Vive le Montreal
Vive le Quebec
Vive le Quebec LIBRE

AkshaySG · Post by **AkshaySG** » 19 Sep 2023 05:20

The timing is really interesting.. Coming on the heels of the G20 embarrassment for Trudeau.

I wonder if they decided to go with a full court press approach hoping that it would divert some attention away from criticism and be able to present a more "United front" against a foreign intervention.

I'm sure the UK, US press would star churning up the Khashoggi ET al comparisons very soon.

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 19 Sep 2023 06:01

I think the correct response would be to get a Junior MEA official, perhaps an Undersecretary or even a Section Officer to issue a statement. That will let Trudeau know the seriousness with which he is treated in India.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Sep 2023 06:35

The other thing to watch if the dot alliance latching on to the absurdity or they ignore this nonsense?

brvarsh · Post by **brvarsh** » 19 Sep 2023 06:43

Trudeau is like VP Singh who wants to convert his failures and serve it as a cake wrapped in some misplaced morality $hit to feed the dogs he has been pestering. Such people are dangerous because the position they have been enjoying and need very calculated response. This person has already taken Canada to a path that if ventured too far will have no point of return.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Sep 2023 07:20

Could someone summarise the Nijjer affair. There are too many getting lead poisoning, hard to keep track.

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 19 Sep 2023 07:32

All Trudeau needs to remember is Kanishka. Nothing new for Canada.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 07:33

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-ind ... gh-nijjar/
Justin Trudeau accuses India of "credible" link to activist's assassination in Canada
SEPTEMBER 18, 2023
Canada expelled a top Indian diplomat Monday as it investigates what Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called credible allegations that India's government may have had links to the assassination in Canada of a Sikh activist.
Trudeau said in Parliament that Canadian intelligence agencies have been looking into the allegations after Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a strong supporter of an independent Sikh homeland known as Khalistan, was gunned down on June 18 outside a Sikh cultural center in Surrey, British Columbia.
"Over the past number of weeks, Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link between agents of the government of India and the killing of a Canadian citizen," Trudeau said in Parliament Monday.
Trudeau said that he brought up the links between Nijjar's murder and the Indian government with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the G-20 last week "in no uncertain terms," adding that "any involvement of a foreign government in the killing of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty."
Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly said the head of Indian intelligence in Canada has been expelled as a consequence. "If proven true this would be a great violation of our sovereignty and of the most basic rule of how countries deal with each other," Joly said. "As a consequence we have expelled a top Indian diplomat."
The Indian Embassy in Ottawa did not immediately answer phone calls from The Associated Press seeking comment.
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Gautam

williams · Post by **williams** » 19 Sep 2023 07:40

Nsmith wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 03:30 Full text of Turd-eau's statement in the Canadian parliament:

....

Let's hope that in response:

1. Bharat expels the Canadian high commissioner
2. Closes down (or significantly degrades the ops capabilities of) their consulates in Chandigarh, Mumbai and Bangalore
3. Revokes the OCI status enmasse for anyone remotely suspected of engaging in anti-Indian activities from Canadian soil
4. Awards the relevant RAA agents onlee

Just close the Chandigarh consulate and raise duties on Canadian goods. Continue to pursue any enemies of Bharath anywhere in the world, overtly or covertly.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 19 Sep 2023 07:44

Make the kanedian companies that want to sell stuff to us go thru security reviews . Our babus can grind them out

AkshaySG · Post by **AkshaySG** » 19 Sep 2023 08:16

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1703961248 ... 82?s=20

MEA has shared a statement categorically denying the allegations, Also confirm that Tredeau had brought them up at G20 and was met with the same denials even then.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 19 Sep 2023 08:25

wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 02:57 Where is the evidence .

Is evidence ever needed in the public/media court? May be a pertinent question is "...Cui bono?" What if JT/NDP goons took him out full knowing the blame would naturally go to India. All they have to do is go to their khali vote bank and say "...look that evil mudi, see you are safe here, just vote for us. Oh! and those refugee applications can now move faster...". I could go down a list of 3-4 countries (including Bakis) who would be more than willing to take him out b'cas the blame would go to India. No evidence needed and a juicy news at the top of special parliament session

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 08:39

Canada's Trudeau has just nakedly accused India of assassinating Khalistani activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Surrey, BC:

It's time for India to shut down the Canadian consulate in Punjab.