India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 06:57

Canada issues travel advisory against traveling to India

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Sep 2023 07:06

For what it is worth

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 07:14

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 20 Sep 2023 07:20

sanman wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 06:28
Remember Gerald Bull? He was an actual Canadian, not an imported Khalistani.

Um... I have never heard of Bull and how he got boffed in Brussels…. Due to his association with weird people, he was persona non-grata for Anglo-Saxon world for a long time before his death, unlike the much more valuable vote-harvesting khalistanis.

Am not sure what your point is ?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 07:23

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 20 Sep 2023 07:36

Still do not understand why this fool is seeking support from Five Eyes? A White Supremacist thingie?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2023 07:52

Guys, just out of curiosity.

Why is Canada claiming the India killed Nijjar,

Could it not be a revenge for the murder of Malik.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Sep 2023 08:11

Pratyush wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 07:52 Guys, just out of curiosity.

Why is Canada claiming the India killed Nijjar,

Could it not be a revenge for the murder of Malik.

Canada is not "claiming'. Canada is alleging.

Per one of my previous posts, I think, Canada has enough info to allege some gov entity committed the murder of Nijjar.

The assumption is that the "some gov" is India (the perpetrator left Canada.

)

To prove it is India they need Indian cooperation.

Enough said.

What I would suggest is to talk about Pannu claiming he will kill Modi, Jaisahnaker, Shah, and Doval.

Indians should DEMAND that Canada/US (Pannu is a US citizen) hand over Pannu because of this "free speech" statement.

Indians should make this about Pannu.

Nijjar is DEAD AND GONE. Why are we talking about a dead person when a live one is the threat.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 08:58

Najunamar · Post by **Najunamar** » 20 Sep 2023 09:06

What tangible retaliatory steps can we undertake? I see no more than a lukewarm “we’re concerned“ type response from Biden and others in G-7 given the precarious situation Europe is in already due to the Ukraine situation going south. I am sure JT will try to raise it in the UNGA session but litmus test is if he is dissuaded by rest of the gang.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2023 09:08

He has already tried to weasel his way out by saying that he is not looking to provoke India.

Najunamar · Post by **Najunamar** » 20 Sep 2023 09:16

But the cat’s out of the bag - now if he doesn’t provide tangible proof, he will be ridiculed further and ostracized in the UN. I have not seen the present Bharat admin take things lying down and this is almost on par with China blocking Masood Azhar’s tagging as a terrorist.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Sep 2023 09:17

G-7 foreign ministers had their say (they met at the "side-lines" of the UN).

They have nothing to say about "India".

Why are we?

Analysis has its own importance. Over-analysis is worthless. BR, IMHO, should stop over-analysis.

"Analysis" me shobha honi chai.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Sep 2023 09:32

Note this sequence of events. Nijjar became a Canadian citizen March 3 2015, well after he was involved in terror activities and traveling to Pakistan. Unsure of how he was allowed in India to murder Mr. Sharma after that. But does point the need to tighten the visa/OCI/entry process for first generation Canadian citizens of Indian origin. Possibly even just blanket reject visas and refuse OCI for first generation Canadian citizens given non-cooperation by the Canadian government. Also reject visas for anyone who ever worked for Canadian immigration given their obvious terrorist sympathies in this matter.

Canadian immigration twitter post

I can confirm that Hardeep Singh Nijjar became a Canadian citizen on March 3, 2015.

Nijjar landed in Canada

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 09:33

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Sep 2023 09:46

sanman wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 09:33

Unfortunate.

Unfortunately, the narrative is not managed, yes, it is a matter of managing the narrative.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 09:58

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 10:23

Justin seems to approve of targeted killings:

williams · Post by **williams** » 20 Sep 2023 10:27

Najunamar wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 09:06 What tangible retaliatory steps can we undertake? I see no more than a lukewarm “we’re concerned“ type response from Biden and others in G-7 given the precarious situation Europe is in already due to the Ukraine situation going south. I am sure JT will try to raise it in the UNGA session but litmus test is if he is dissuaded by rest of the gang.

My prediction is India will give a pass and let this guy fall into his own foolishness. But this is also India's fault to some extent we have tolerated these countries openly harboring our enemies. They now feel they can do whatever they want. Things like travel advisory are old ideas that they keep indulging, thinking it will hurt India.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Sep 2023 10:39

drnayar wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 00:07 Falsdu had no problems taking his own 15 year old son on this trip to a country he now accuses of some involvement in assassination on their own soil. Absolutely a piece of work with no honour or integrity . Lying piece of @rap.

Please do not say such things about Canada's future "Dear Leader".
Gautam

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 11:01

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 11:06

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Sep 2023 11:29

NRao wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 09:46
sanman wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 09:33
Unfortunate.

Unfortunately, the narrative is not managed, yes, it is a matter of managing the narrative.

Boss Narrative is set by Media owners, what leverage does India have to control CNN BBC, NBC et All?

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 20 Sep 2023 12:07

NRao ji,
If you keep watching those western channels, that will be the narrative. Haven't you noticed since the Ukr fiasco started. No need to do handwringing. Watch WION or Firstpost, even R now and then

Truth has its own narrative, and it will prevail. Satyameva Jayathe.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 20 Sep 2023 12:23

Would be interesting as to if and what China has to say ..lol

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2023 12:39

I am puzzled by the language used.

Credible Allegations?

That too in the parliament.

Why not use the phrase Credible evidence?

Or this is an 11th dimension chess move, that is beyond the comprehension of ordinary mortals?

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 20 Sep 2023 12:48

sanman wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 07:14

We are supposed to shiver and roll over after hearing this trope?!! Get a life CBC and some real education while you're at it.

srin · Post by **srin** » 20 Sep 2023 12:59

So, this first world country where there are a lot of crime documentaries, doesn't know which person(s) did it, doesn't seem to have evidence and doesn't have a case, yet has decided that the culprit is India ?

Trudeau is simply Turd-eau.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 20 Sep 2023 13:02

Pratyush wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 12:39 I am puzzled by the language used.

Credible Allegations?

That too in the parliament.

Why not use the phrase Credible evidence?

Or this is an 11th dimension chess move, that is beyond the comprehension of ordinary mortals?

Trudeau is owned by Jagmeet Singh. He’s making a fool of himself, but he’s too stupid to work it out.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 20 Sep 2023 13:21

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Sep 2023 14:12

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/cana ... 230920.htm
Canada's allies reluctant over its accusations against India: Report
Utkarsh Mishra, September 20, 2023
Weeks before Canada made an explosive allegation implicating Indian officials in the killing of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar, Canadian officials sought public condemnation of the murder from their allies, including the United States, but were met with reluctance, The Washington Post reported.
The same highlights the diplomatic challenges faced by the Biden administration and its allies as they try to navigate relations with India, a crucial player in the region, the report noted.
The alleged assassination of Nijjar, a Canadian citizen, on June 18, led to behind-the-scenes discussions among senior officials from the Five Eyes countries in the weeks leading up to the September Group of 20 summit in New Delhi.
However, no public mention was made before the summit, which was seen as an important event for Prime Minister Narendra Modi, according to The Washington Post.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's announcement of 'credible allegations' in the parliament caused a significant rupture in bilateral relations with India, resulting in the expulsion of an Indian diplomat in Ottawa, the report stated.
"Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link between agents of the Government of India and the killing of a Canadian citizen, Hardeep Singh Nijjar," Trudeau said on Monday.
However, New Delhi on Tuesday rejected Canada's allegations of Indian agents being involved in the killing of pro-Khalistan leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar, the chief of Khalistan Tiger Force and a designated 'terrorist'.
In retaliation to the Trudeau administration expelling an Indian diplomat, New Delhi ordered a Canadian envoy, believed to be spying for the country in India, within five days, the Post added in its report.
While Trudeau emphasized that Canada was not looking to provoke or escalate the situation, the Indian government rejected its accusation as "absurd and motivated," shifting the focus to Khalistani terrorists and extremists sheltered in Canada, The Washington Post reported.
In a statement, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said, 'We have seen and reject the statement of the Canadian Prime Minister in their Parliament, as also the statement by their Foreign Minister. Allegations of the Government of India's involvement in any act of violence in Canada are absurd and motivated.'
Nijjar had been designated a terrorist by Indian security agencies in 2020 and was accused of supporting attacks in Punjab, the report noted, adding that India sought his extradition in 2022 and linked him to the killing of a Hindu priest in Punjab that same year.
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Gautam
If JT approached the US and the European powers in the G20 summit, it could not have remained a secret for long. That must have been the reason why he was received so coldly by all. That must have been also the reason why JT did not accept an Indian jet to return.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Sep 2023 14:34

https://www.wionews.com/world/canada-vs ... how-637583
Canada vs India over Nijjar death: UK, Australia PMs appear cold to Trudeau's claims. Here's how
Washington, C Krishnasai, Sep 19, 2023
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s effort to corner India diplomatically over the alleged role of 'agents of government' in the death of Khalistan terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar seems to have failed miserably after its so-called “closest allies” refused to condemn New Delhi over the incident.
Earlier in the day, CBC News, quoting sources from the government, reported that Trudeau briefed the leaders of some of Canada's closest allies, including UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, French President Emmanuel Macron, and US President Joe Biden.
While Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese didn’t express his opinion on the incident, his British counterpart’s spokesperson said that the Rishi Sunak government’s priority is to secure a trade deal with India.
Meanwhile, the US officials said that they have been in close contact with their Canadian counterparts about the issue and said they were "quite concerned" about the allegations.
During a press conference on Tuesday (Sep 19) in Canberra, a reporter asked the Albanese whether he personally raised concerns with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi at this month's G20 meeting in India over the death of the Khalistan terrorist.
'Chill out': Albanese deflects question
"Your foreign ministry says it's raised concerns with the Indian government about its alleged role in the death of a Sikh activist in Canada, have you raised those concerns personally with Mr Modi at the G20, and do you regret calling him a boss when he visited in Australia?" the reporter asked.
To which Albanese responded, "Seriously, you should chill out a bit. You know, we were at a venue where Bruce Springsteen played the last time I was there.
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Gautam

Mukesh.Kumar · Post by **Mukesh.Kumar** » 20 Sep 2023 15:32

Reading between the lines. Thoo-Thoo definitely landed in hot water. His allies are distancing from him. Reading between the lines on the mouthpiece of al Bartania- the PeePeeCee- Hardeep Singh Nijjar: Why Western nations fear India-Canada row, the reasoning being trotted out is that they don't want to upset trade and the counterbalance to China. What they are trying to do is detract attention from the fact that one of their own is a 'whacko'

Even if grudging, it is still an admission of India's rising strength.

These guys will still throw us under the bus given an opportunity, but slowly the results are trickling in. First tremors before an earthquake.

Long time before I think Cholaji had said that India will become a full Permanent Member the day India doesn't want it or need the UN anymore. Looks like that will be a reality in a decade.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Sep 2023 15:41

drnayar wrote: ↑20 Sep 2023 12:23 Would be interesting as to if and what China has to say ..lol

drnayar ji,

the cheen are the prime drivers here

They have been waiting eagerly for a chance to get back at India for the uncounted times they lost face on the international fora because of India

justinder trudeau is quite literally their house ni**er khalistani boy toy in kaneda, just as the cheen are big supporters of the so called kharaku in India as well.

who were the cheen army training against.......and why.........

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... ch-country

If you haven’t yet read about the scandal of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau allowing China’s communist-led military to train in winter warfare, you’ve got to be living in Chinese-occupied Tibet or inside China’s concentration camps for its Uighur Muslim minority.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada ... -1.5838658

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 20 Sep 2023 15:51

In a famous Japanese battle King A had sought the support of Chieftain C in his war against king B. A and C had agreed that when the time was right C would enter the battlefield on behalf of A. Come the crucual hour in the battlefield, A was hesitant to begin the attack on B. The longer the delay the greater the advantage for B as his recce troops would spot C in hiding. C in a moment of wisdom fires at A's troops with his cannon. this knocks sense into A and the battle begins eventually with B being routed. The present day Royal dispensation in Tokyo owe their place to this moment of wisdom.

The Germannic tribes (I dont call them the "west") deem that India is at a tipping point and one single nudge from Turdeau would do the trick and India would firmly be in their camp. They would fight their diplomatic battle to the last non-American loyal head of state, in this case only Turdeau is compliant, Rishi and Anthony are too smart to bend not after they witnessed what happened to Biden over the Kashoggi incident. Biden had to eat humble crow and put in his place by a country whose GDP is 1/20th of his. India is much smarter than this, they will shoo Turdeau away as yet another attack by the Soros woke cabal, we have already fought many away. No one suspects the deep state in America with this approach as this Turdeau is seen as the only suspect. Well played, both sides. I see India coming out of this unscathed with Turdeau as the collateral damage. The Canadian opposition will in a few days run to placate Modi and it will be business as usual.

Modi and team must leverage their greatest strength now, the patriotic Sikhs (silent majority) and the other Indians in Canada. Use them as a vote bank against Turdeau.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2023 15:52

This whole affair hurts Canada more than it hurts India.

PRC, could only be in it to further humiliate Canada. Because, it won't harm India all that much.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Sep 2023 16:17

Jaishankar is issuing a TRAVEL ADVISORY warning Indians in Canada that they may be at risk, as Khalistanis plan to assemble for a major protest rally against the Indian embassy there

nits · Post by **nits** » 20 Sep 2023 16:20

India issues travel advisory for Indian nationals and students in Canada

In view of growing anti-India activities and politically-condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada, all Indian nationals there and those contemplating travel are urged to exercise utmost caution. Recently, threats have particularly targeted Indian diplomats and sections of the Indian community who oppose the anti-India agenda. Indian nationals are therefore advised to avoid travelling to regions and potential venues in Canada that have seen such incidents": Ministry of External Affairs.

The MEA said in view of growing anti-India activities and politically condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada, all Indian nationals there and those contemplating travel are urged to exercise utmost caution.

thats quite strong worded - growing anti-India activities and politically condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Sep 2023 16:20

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/india ... ada-546135
Ministry of External Affairs asks Indians to be cautious while travelling to Canada
Govt asks all Indians, including student, living in Canada to register themselves with missions
Tribune News Service, Sandeep Dikshit, New Delhi, September 20
Retaliating to a revised travel advisory issued by Ottawa on Tuesday, India has also issued a fresh travel advisory asking all Indian nationals in Canada and those contemplating travel there, especially Indian students, “to exercise utmost caution in view of growing anti-India activities and politically condoned hate crimes and criminal violence”.
“Recently, threats have particularly targeted Indian diplomats and sections of the Indian community who oppose the anti-India agenda. Indian nationals are, therefore, advised to avoid travelling to regions and potential venues in Canada that have seen such incidents.
“Our High Commission will continue to be in contact with the Canadian authorities to ensure the safety and well-being of the Indian community in Canada. Given the deteriorating security environment in Canada, Indian students in particular are advised to exercise extreme caution and remain vigilant,” said a travel advisory issued by the MEA on Wednesday.
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Gautam

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Sep 2023 16:30

'Hindus Leave Canada Or...': Khalistan Terrorist Pannun's Open Threat; Will Trudeau Arrest Him?

Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, chief of Sikhs for Justice (SFJ), a pro-Khalistan organisation banned in India in 2019, has threatened Hindus of Indian origin and asked them to leave Canada. The video surfaced a day after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed there was a "potential link" between Indian government agents and the killing of Nijjar in June, which triggered tit-for-tat expulsions of senior diplomats. Watch this video to know more.
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Gautam
Why should JT arrest him, JT agrees with this view of Hindus of Canada.