India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

[sanman]

[KL Dubey]

Canada does server a useful function as a dumping ground for all the junkies from Punjaab. Lets not make them more mad, we need to lighten the population load on India abd get rid of all the crap.

However, Canada is providing cover to allow terrorists to travel to India.

Entry requirements needs to be tightened up. Something simple as -

1. Canadians naturalized within the past 20 years are not eligible for entry into India.

And what about the Hindu Indo-Canadians (as well as the large majority of sikh Indo-Canadians) who abhor this khalistani menace and are fighting for Dharma in Canada ? In your "simple" approach, will we shut out these 1 million+ people as well ? That would be a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. In addition, we cannot trivialize our OCI system, which grants important privileges to our diaspora (the overwhelming majority of whom are glad to be part of India in this way).

Need to think clearly.

India has many tools to make these guys hurt. A better approach could be one or more of the following:

- OCI should be the only simple means of travel for Canadians to and from India.
- All OCIs (existing and applicants) should be vetted with a fine tooth comb, and those with khalistan associations should be canceled and debarred.
- Cancel ETA/eVisa for Canadian applicants and require in-person, paper-only visa applications, with fingerprinting, Canada police no-objection certificate etc. Should be required to fly in and out on an Indian carrier only. Let them taste the famed ways of Indian babu-giri.

[g.sarkar]

Journalists analyze Canada-India tension over killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar – September 20, 2023


Journalists Bob Fife (The Globe and Mail) and Stephanie Levitz (Toronto Star) join CPAC’s Michael Serapio to discuss the diplomatic tensions between Canada and India in the wake of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s statement on credible allegations of a potential Indian link to the killing of Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
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Gautam
The only way out is for India to say that some rogue element in the Indian intelligence service did the killing, and India will take care of the problem. But Modi is not doing that, he is digging in. JT has tried of late to dial it down, but Modi has not complied, he can stick it to Canada.

[vera_k]

And what about the Hindu Indo-Canadians (as well as the large majority of sikh Indo-Canadians) who abhor this khalistani menace and are fighting for Dharma in Canada ? In your "simple" approach, will we shut out these 1 million+ people as well ? That would be a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. In addition, we cannot trivialize our OCI system, which grants important privileges to our diaspora (the overwhelming majority of whom are glad to be part of India in this way).

Need to think clearly.

India has many tools to make these guys hurt. A better approach could be one or more of the following:

- OCI should be the only simple means of travel for Canadians to and from India.
- All OCIs (existing and applicants) should be vetted with a fine tooth comb, and those with khalistan associations should be canceled and debarred.
- Cancel ETA/eVisa for Canadian applicants and require in-person, paper-only visa applications, with fingerprinting, Canada police no-objection certificate etc. Should be required to fly in and out on an Indian carrier only. Let them taste the famed ways of Indian babu-giri.

Canada will have to be notified to be not eligible for OCI alongside Pakistan.

People can continue on with their Canadian permanent residence and not become Canadians if they so desire. Doing so avoids allowing Canada to use its citizenship papers as a cover for terrorist activity.

[KL Dubey]

Canada will have to be notified to be not eligible for OCI alongside Pakistan.

People can continue on with their Canadian permanent residence and not become Canadians if they so desire. Doing so avoids allowing Canada to use its citizenship papers as a cover for terrorist activity.

You are not getting it, so I won't try further. The point is to keep strong links with our legitimate diaspora while making it hard for the rest of the Kanaddis.

[Kati]

However, Canada is providing cover to allow terrorists to travel to India.

Entry requirements needs to be tightened up. Something simple as -

1. Canadians naturalized within the past 20 years are not eligible for entry into India.

And what about the Hindu Indo-Canadians (as well as the large majority of sikh Indo-Canadians) who abhor this khalistani menace and are fighting for Dharma in Canada ? In your "simple" approach, will we shut out these 1 million+ people as well ? That would be a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. In addition, we cannot trivialize our OCI system, which grants important privileges to our diaspora (the overwhelming majority of whom are glad to be part of India in this way).

Need to think clearly.

India has many tools to make these guys hurt. A better approach could be one or more of the following:

- OCI should be the only simple means of travel for Canadians to and from India.
- All OCIs (existing and applicants) should be vetted with a fine tooth comb, and those with khalistan associations should be canceled and debarred.
- Cancel ETA/eVisa for Canadian applicants and require in-person, paper-only visa applications, with fingerprinting, Canada police no-objection certificate etc. Should be required to fly in and out on an Indian carrier only. Let them taste the famed ways of Indian babu-giri.

Kanada police "no objection certificate" is a nonstarter, as the federal admin itself in bed with the khalistani terrorists. Instead, we can follow the Vietnam's example. Any Overseas Vietnamese Persons (OVP) who are eligible to get 5 years' visa easily must provide a detailed list of their close family members in Vietnam. Then the Vietnam govt checks all the family members' background (with the local police reports) and then decides whether to grant the long-term visa or not. This is to weed out the anti-commie elements who sided with the ex-South Vietnamese govt + US army prior to the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975.

[SSridhar]

On the face of it this would indicate either a partial or whole GOI communication being intercepted by the SIGNIT network operated by the 5 eyes. Thus it cannot be fully shared with others including other G7 members as it would compromise sources and methods.

Thank you, ldev.

[Roop]

We thought 2024 Indian election distraction will come from NGO's ("the soros donkeys"), We may need to recalibrate that the real distraction actually may come from a duly elected Government reps? With NGO's failing to gain any traction, they now are pushing Governments to be the agent of chaos?

Well, "Soros donkeys" and "duly elected government reps" are not necessarily disjoint sets. In this case, I put it to you that CanPappu is an obvious intersection of these two sets. There is a video on YT showing Klaus Schwab openly boasting about having "penetrated" JT's cabinet. If I remember right, his claim was that about 50 percent of the cabinet were sympathetic to the WEF gang. It is not a stretch to speculate that the same holds true for penetration by Soros thugs. Soros and Schwab are not that far apart in their sinister aims / philosophy.

[KL Dubey]

Kanada police "no objection certificate" is a nonstarter, as the federal admin itself in bed with the khalistani terrorists. Instead, we can follow the Vietnam's example. Any Overseas Vietnamese Persons (OVP) who are eligible to get 5 years' visa easily must provide a detailed list of their close family members in Vietnam. Then the Vietnam govt checks all the family members' background (with the local police reports) and then decides whether to grant the long-term visa or not. This is to weed out the anti-commie elements who sided with the ex-South Vietnamese govt + US army prior to the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975.

Bhaisahab, I am talking about the average gora Kanaddu trying to go to India for business/tourism etc. What family will he have in India ? See my previous post - the best policy is to protect and strengthen our legitimate diaspora, while punishing the Kanaddus by making it highly inconvenient to travel to India. As for khalistani supporters of any breed, desi or otherwise, they should be summarily banned/debarred. That's it from me on this subtopic.

[williams]

Journalists analyze Canada-India tension over killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar – September 20, 2023


Journalists Bob Fife (The Globe and Mail) and Stephanie Levitz (Toronto Star) join CPAC’s Michael Serapio to discuss the diplomatic tensions between Canada and India in the wake of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s statement on credible allegations of a potential Indian link to the killing of Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
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Gautam
The only way out is for India to say that some rogue element in the Indian intelligence service did the killing, and India will take care of the problem. But Modi is not doing that, he is digging in. JT has tried of late to dial it down, but Modi has not complied, he can stick it to Canada.

Very interesting: they publicly declared nonsense, and now India must bail them out. You poke a little needle into an Elephant, expecting it to humble itself before you. Canada is screwed if this is the way they conduct foreign policy. I think it is time to paint Canada as another terrorist-harboring state like TSP with whom we are not going to negotiate period.

[sanjaykumar]

India examines Indian diaspora documents minutely. The are not hesitant to reject anyone with an unhealthy interest in panjab.

Even people who feel they would not have an issue.

[sanman]

@6:58 - "there's no upside for Canada" -- ohhh, but there's UPSIDE FOR TRUDEAU -- and that's all that matters to him!

[vera_k]

India examines Indian diaspora documents minutely. The are not hesitant to reject anyone with an unhealthy interest in panjab.

Even people who feel they would not have an issue.

Well, in that case it's curious how Nijjar managed to enter India after becoming a Canadian citizen. Via the Nepal route maybe.

[sanjaykumar]

He seems to have travelled on documents of convenience. Likely issued by Canada. I will have to review an interesting write up. But the veracity is always in question. The information could only have been fed by Indian intelligence. It is floating around, I will post it if I find it.

Intelligence agencies the world over employ lowlife operatives

[A_Gupta]

Credible allegations that Canada harbors both terrorists and gangsters:

[g.sarkar]

Very interesting: they publicly declared nonsense, and now India must bail them out. You poke a little needle into an Elephant, expecting it to humble itself before you. Canada is screwed if this is the way they conduct foreign policy. I think it is time to paint Canada as another terrorist-harboring state like TSP with whom we are not going to negotiate period.

There is a difference between a brown and a white elephant. You are allowed to poke a brown elephant but you must kowtow to a white one. And I am not even bringing the yellow elephant into this discussion, that will complicate matters. So, it is ok to kill Osama, in Pakistan, but you are not allowed to touch a Khalistani.
Gautam

[sanman]

[A_Gupta]

The reasoning in that video sanman posted is because the downside is so high, Trudeau must be very confident in the evidence he has. But he is never going to share that evidence. The proof that India is involved in Nijjar's murder is that Trudeau spoke out.

[hnair]

This is very inconvenient for Miss Trudy’s narrative :


Punjab gangster Sukha killed in inter-gang rivalry in Canada

[Vayutuvan]

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@6:58 - "there's no upside for Canada" -- ohhh, but there's UPSIDE FOR TRUDEAU -- and that's all that matters to him!

Is there an upside to this smirking entitled princeling? I doubt it. "Any Which Way You Turd can Lose"

[A_Gupta]

This is probably a dumb question - if India felt the need to assassinate someone in an ostensibly friendly western democracy, would Nijjar be the most-valued target, or is there anyone else?

[Vayutuvan]

This is probably a dumb question - if India felt the need to assassinate someone in an ostensibly friendly western democracy, would Nijjar be the most-valued target, or is there anyone else?

Why are we even entertaining this kind of thought process? India doesn't sanction assasinations. Period. I am a little disappointed with you Sir @A_Gupta.

[sanman]

[krithivas]

^^^ Mr. Brahma Chellaney said the same thing that Nijjar had zero value to Indian Government. In fact, he said that he never has heard of him either.

[A_Gupta]

The Winnipeg police page does not have anything yet about the murder of Sukhdool Singh:
https://www.winnipeg.ca/police

At this point the last one they have is:

Shooting – Investigation: C23-227156

Released: September 19, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
On September 18, 2023, at approximately 6:20 p.m., General Patrol officers responded to the report of a shooting incident in the area of Aldgate Road and Gobert Crescent.

The Major Crimes Unit has taken over the investigation.

[chetak]

The reasoning in that video sanman posted is because the downside is so high, Trudeau must be very confident in the evidence he has. But he is never going to share that evidence. The proof that India is involved in Nijjar's murder is that Trudeau spoke out.

Gupta ji,

the canucks have played dirty right from the beginning

they openly disclosed the name of the Indian diplomat they expelled, identifying him globally as an intelligence officer, endangering him, his wife and kids even in India by putting them at risk by khalistani/jihadi nut cases

per established and accepted international protocol, names are never disclosed

Yes, it has happened when vengeful countries like russia and amreeka, constantly at each other's throats, have ,on occasion, disclosed such names

India did not name names when they, as a return gift, expelled the canadian intelligence operative, but .......

The Ministry of External Affairs, on September 19, conveyed New Delhi's mounting apprehension regarding Canadian diplomats' interference in India's domestic affairs and their participation in activities detrimental to India, and it is Olivier Sylvestere, a canadian intelligence operative who has been expelled and since we are past the quid pro quo part, it's now tit for tat season.

[A_Gupta]

^^^ Mr. Brahma Chellaney said the same thing that Nijjar had zero value to Indian Government. In fact, he said that he never has heard of him either.

Exactly! You and Mr Chellaney immediately got the point, unlike folks who are disappointed in me.

If India was going to risk an assassination in a friendly country, it would not be for a Nijjar. The risk/reward ratio is too high.

IMO, if India were to do such a thing, it would be in extremis - it would have to be a mass murderer like someone who blew up a jumbo jet with passengers aboard, the assassin of a Prime Minister or other high official, and the like, and that too, only after all diplomatic options were thoroughly exhausted. Even so, India might first offer a carrot, like 10 million USD tax-free and no questions asked, for delivery of said person into Indian custody. Only on the failure of all such options would an assassination in a (supposedly) friendly country be considered. A truly friendly country would cooperate in getting that person to justice.

IMO, the calculation is different for such an operation in Pakistan.

[chetak]

It's a die-nastic, as well as, a pappu trait


nationality no bar

[Vayutuvan]

@A_Gupta, Paxistan is not a friendly country. Canada is. Why are you insisting on going down this CT that India was directly or indirectly involved in Nijjar killing? gods only know how many enemies he made being a gangster he was.

Turdue and his mistress Joly can go pound sand or each other. Let us not cast aspersions on Indian intelligence agencies.

[Vayutuvan]

@chetak gaaru, his mom has Scottish/Irish/British/Indonesian ancestry.

[Cyrano]

This is probably a dumb question - if India felt the need to assassinate someone in an ostensibly friendly western democracy, would Nijjar be the most-valued target, or is there anyone else?

Why are we even entertaining this kind of thought process? India doesn't sanction assasinations. Period. I am a little disappointed with you Sir @A_Gupta.

Don't be so sure of that saar... Did you forget "you are with us or against us" "the will smoke you out and hunt you down" days of the white man? The days of Gandhi-Nehru shortsighted idealism are long gone. This is the "ghar me ghuske marengey" era, but of course "this is not an era of war"

[Vayutuvan]

@Cyrano gaaru, let this blackface clown and his mistress Joly come back with some proof. Mean-a-while, India will stonewall and also give jhappads to Canuck bugs like their haha commissioner at MEA.

[drnayar]

The whole premise boils down to because Falsdu said it in parliament he must have "hard evidence ", now it's on india to prove there is not. Cockwomble sounds just right.

What a joke !

[Cyrano]

BTW, The ANI reporter was in front of MEA block with mike in hand and camera man in tow by pure divine coincidence and astral alignment. The gods weren't happy with Olivier Sylvestre it seems, neither was he after the desi wedgie he got - must have really hurt the zone behind his microscopic guilli-danda. That facial expression he had as the came out, jumped into the car and banged the door is one for the ages.

[chetak]

This is normal inside the Khalistani circles in kaneda. They keep bumping each other off. What the average Canadian doesn't realise is that their governments since the 1980's let this menace fester. And if they don't fix it now, it will eventually spill out of the boundaries of Surrey and Brampton. The Indian state has no role in this. This is Canada's mess, and it will not stop. It won't happen in Punjab (India), but right here in kaneda.

[SRajesh]

Just a little insight into White Kanadians:
Worked with a Consultant who quite vociferous in his assertion that Sikhs were one who protected Indians(read Hindoo) from Muslim invasion. But conveniently forgets that there is nearly a 700-800 years gap between invasion of Islam and Wahe Guru's birth!!. They are being brainwashed with the of only Sikh defenders of the country!!
In the last 18 months have had chance to work 3 junior doctors all goras of European descent (parent or grand parent emigrated to Kaneda). All did medicine in East European countries and want to settle down in UK. None want to return. On questioning answers of jobs/social life immigration yada yada, Also a quite a lot of young white Kanedians want to leave as Left liberal woke in power are upsetting the White supremacy.

[drnayar]

Meantime miss du s girlfriend is ostensibly keeping tabs on "democracy next door"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... .html



Now if Trump gets to be POTUS

[chetak]

@chetak gaaru, his mom has Scottish/Irish/British/Indonesian ancestry.

Vayutuvan ji,


exactly like a prominent Indian mongrel, but of another recipe and debilitating mix, no.........

[drnayar]

BTW, The ANI reporter was in front of MEA block with mike in hand and camera man in tow by pure divine coincidence and astral alignment. The gods weren't happy with Olivier Sylvestre it seems, neither was he after the desi wedgie he got - must have really hurt the zone behind his microscopic guilli-danda. That facial expression he had as the came out, jumped into the car and banged the door is one for the ages.

Is there a video somewhere .please post.

[A_Gupta]

You can find some of the most-wanted listed on Twitter/X:
https://twitter.com/NIA_India/status/17 ... 2387753078