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Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 22 Sep 2023 20:01

Naah, Tharoor in terms of his fundamental thinking is not even half way between India and Bharat. That will make him incompatible with M & A's thinking. I also suspect that given his colourful personal life, he might have been compromised so that rules out D & J as well. A one off Oxford debate or media bite in Queen's English cannot change that.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 22 Sep 2023 20:32

Not starting any conspiracy theory but get this:
1. Bhangra T comes in with plane load of wokes and Grade A maal
2. Refuses Presidential suite and opts ordinary Rooms
3. Stays longer than necessary
4. Chinese come in with all sorts of equipment and refuse baggage check
5.Bhangra T goes back and accuses India of all sorts
Are we barking up the wrong tree
Albeit Xi's absence the meet a success
Spice Route Trade Corridor announced
Turk and Kaneda nowhere in the mix
Turk now announce a parallel route or claim No Turk No route!!

williams · Post by **williams** » 22 Sep 2023 21:28

SRajesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 20:32 Not starting any conspiracy theory but get this:
1. Bhangra T comes in with plane load of wokes and Grade A maal
2. Refuses Presidential suite and opts ordinary Rooms
3. Stays longer than necessary
4. Chinese come in with all sorts of equipment and refuse baggage check
5.Bhangra T goes back and accuses India of all sorts
Are we barking up the wrong tree
Albeit Xi's absence the meet a success
Spice Route Trade Corridor announced
Turk and Kaneda nowhere in the mix
Turk now announce a parallel route or claim No Turk No route!!

Yes, I see Chinese hands all over. The only thing the Chins did to expect is that G20 would be that grand success, and the Eye 5 stooges would be reluctant to partner with TD for the questionable intelligence (pun intended

) he is having right now. Also, our EAM + Doval team probably predicted this already. The reciprocal actions taken by India are pretty aggressive and quick.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 22 Sep 2023 21:57

what, if anything, has the great white hope, sardar justinder singh khalistania, done regarding the latest murder of another sikh in kaneda

why has he not expelled even more Indian diplomats in retaliation of this "unacceptable" killing of another sikh on canadian soil

or has he wet his striped kachas

Gangster Lawrence Bishnoi has claimed responsibility for the killing of terrorist Sukhdool Singh in Canada's

Punjab gangster Lawrence Bishnoi's gang has reportedly taken responsibility of killing of Sukhdool Singh alias Sukha Duneke who was wanted by National Investigation Agency (NIA) for his suspected links with pro-Khalistan terrorists.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/bish ... da-2696236

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 22 Sep 2023 22:06

Cyrano wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 20:01 Naah, Tharoor in terms of his fundamental thinking is not even half way between India and Bharat. That will make him incompatible with M & A's thinking. I also suspect that given his colourful personal life, he might have been compromised so that rules out D & J as well. A one off Oxford debate or media bite in Queen's English cannot change that.

He doesn’t have to have 100% alignment with BJP or sterling character. (If he is vulnerable to compromat by outsiders, he is equally if not more vulnerable to the same in India, no?)

He just needs to look and talk pretty, stick to the script, and do his bit for the “we are 105 onlee” optics.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 22 Sep 2023 22:30

May be, why not? But such triple agents are usually sent on raw assignments, not as GoB official representative.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 22 Sep 2023 22:32

Anglophone solidarity comes up against 'strategic' ties with India in Canada spat

WASHINGTON: Anglophone solidarity is coming up against "strategic" ties with India in the Canada spat. The Biden White House on Thursday firmly threw its weight behind Ottawa's allegation about India's hand in the assassination of a separatist Sikh militant in Canada, saying it took the accusation seriously, and "there is not some special exemption you get for actions like this."
"It is a matter of concern for us.
It is something we take seriously... Regardless of the country, we will stand up and defend our basic principles. And we will also consult closely with allies like Canada as they pursue their law enforcement and diplomatic process," US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said in response to a question about whether the incident could "drive a wedge" between the United States and India given their burgeoning ties.

In fact, Sullivan accused sections of the US media of trying to drive a wedge between the United States and Canada on this issue. "We have deep concerns about the allegations, and we would like to see this investigation carried forward and the perpetrators held to account," he said, asserting that Washington has been and will be n contact with the Indians at "high levels" on this issue.
Sullivan's remarks came after the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) reported claims by the Trudeau government that it had "amassed" both human and electronic intelligence pointing to the involvement of Indian officials in the killing. Some was provided by an unnamed ally in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, it said citing unnamed sources.

The Five Eyes alliance comprises the US, Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand. The alliance, described by some as "one of the most comprehensive known espionage alliances in human history" exchanges information obtained through signals intelligence -- basically electronic eavesdropping -- and also human intelligence (spycraft) and geospatial intelligence (through use of satellites).

The closing of ranks in the Anglospheric alliance (strictly speaking the US does not have an official language like the other four) came amid disquiet in Indian quarters that its diplomats were being spied on and are being implicated on the basis of leaks. The Liberal Trudeau government is under pressure from Conservative opposition in Canada to back up its allegations against India with evidence, which New Delhi says has not been shared with it.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 22 Sep 2023 22:35

KLNMurthy wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 22:06
Cyrano wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 20:01 Naah, Tharoor in terms of his fundamental thinking is not even half way between India and Bharat. That will make him incompatible with M & A's thinking. I also suspect that given his colourful personal life, he might have been compromised so that rules out D & J as well. A one off Oxford debate or media bite in Queen's English cannot change that.
He doesn’t have to have 100% alignment with BJP or sterling character. (If he is vulnerable to compromat by outsiders, he is equally if not more vulnerable to the same in India, no?)

He just needs to look and talk pretty, stick to the script, and do his bit for the “we are 105 onlee” optics.

KLNMurthy ji,

following the match up with kharge for the congi internal "elections", shampoo boy has been very pointedly sidelined. He has been making overtures to the bjp for some time now.

he has no future in the congress now, so he is basically treading water, and going nowhere and he sees greener pastures

the vengeful mafia will not forgive him, even though they "forgave" the killers of r@j!v gh@ndhy

they "forgave", because there was no other way that the BIF would support them otherwise

in politics, no one is worried about character, otherwise lul00 would have been rotting in some obscure prison cell, which is what he deserves

with 2024 fast approaching, shampoo boy needs a safe harbor, to plan his survival and protect his privileges.

He is quite cozy with the padres but they will not give him a ticket. The bjp might be persuaded.

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 22 Sep 2023 23:00

All these canadian shenanigans are being orchestrated by the american establishment which includes it,s intelligence services , bureaucrats and above all it,s powerful oligarch,s some are known others in the shadows. Canada is just a whore like pakis which does what it is told.

yesterday there was a strike on Russia,s naval headquarters of it,s black sea fleet in Sevastapol. One by one they are testing Putin,s tolerance level for a strike against NATO countries. A situation very similar to what FDR did before Japanese strike on Pearl harbor.They desparately want a war with Russia to revive their hegemony on this earth which these mafia countries and cultures have dominated for several centuries.

These shenanigans against India as everyone on this board knows are for regime change or to weaken Modi,s position by decreasing the number of seats in the coming elections for lok sabha which I expect will happen ahead of May 2024.

All these incidences are obviously related.

One more thing I would say for the many NRI,s on this board many in US that I fully expect sometime in the future sooner rather than later attacks on Hindus (physical and every other form ) in US as the new India,s is refusing to tow the line of this international Mafia also known as I-5 alliance. HIndus be ready for the rx given to the americans of japanese descent during the second world war.

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 22 Sep 2023 23:13

GoI has escalated every single day since this broke. Today’s signals via Indian media:

* Canadian Intel is feeding Turdoo motivated propaganda
* Canada has also been complicit in supporting acts of terror against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Ukraine(!!!)
* USA needs to straighten out its ally or risk loss of credibility in the war against terror

The last one is the biggest piece. It’s moving beyond Canada now.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Sep 2023 00:12

Suresh S wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 23:00 All these canadian shenanigans are being orchestrated by the american establishment which includes it,s intelligence services , bureaucrats and above all it,s powerful oligarch,s some are known others in the shadows. Canada is just a whore like pakis which does what it is told.

yesterday there was a strike on Russia,s naval headquarters of it,s black sea fleet in Sevastapol. One by one they are testing Putin,s tolerance level for a strike against NATO countries. A situation very similar to what FDR did before Japanese strike on Pearl harbor.They desparately want a war with Russia to revive their hegemony on this earth which these mafia countries and cultures have dominated for several centuries.

These shenanigans against India as everyone on this board knows are for regime change or to weaken Modi,s position by decreasing the number of seats in the coming elections for lok sabha which I expect will happen ahead of May 2024.

All these incidences are obviously related.

One more thing I would say for the many NRI,s on this board many in US that I fully expect sometime in the future sooner rather than later attacks on Hindus (physical and every other form ) in US as the new India,s is refusing to tow the line of this international Mafia also known as I-5 alliance. HIndus be ready for the rx given to the americans of japanese descent during the second world war.

Suresh ji,

justinder is a b@!! le$$ wonder.

he is an entitled lame brain, and a dynastic nincompoop, who leveraged his way into the top job, helped by puppet masters operating from the shadows

There is no way that this scumball has thought this up all by himself. His cabinet playing along with this charade, is the first indication that this is a drama of many parts, the dramatis personae pulling the strings are unlikely to be canadian

This is a production of the amriki deep state. If things go south, there are two levels of cutouts already built in, one is the biden administration, and the other is the justinder circus with french canadian monkeys swinging from khalistani tree branches

The main objective is to pin Modi and the GoI down to extract more concessions in the geopolitical arena and consolidate the geo economic situation for large campaign contributing conglomerates that make up the amriki MIC.

The deep state needs a vassal state in India and not a "partner" as many fondly seem to imagine, because vassals and partners equate to submission and equality respectively. The amriki deep state has never ever sought equality with any other state. It is genetically, and also by its 200 odd year process of segregated organic growth and buttressed by their divine belief in their own racial superiority

The amriki grand narrative has not/does not/will not acknowledge or concede to the concept of "equality". It subordinates all else to its (now fast fading) global status (in geo-political, geo-economics, and geo-strategic terms) of the apex predator, and the "unassailable" ne plus ultra position that it has conferred upon itself

This long bromance with India, under multiple presidencies, has always had a hidden agenda and the requirement to hollow out the civilizational state, replace the Indic sanatana culture with the abrahamic and non nationalistic retread that is more than amenable and willing to take instructions from masters far away from India's geographical boundaries.

Sadly, the Indians have already demonstrated such propensities during the world wars I and II, led by mohandas and his britshit loving cabal.

OTOH, the predatory cheenis see in India, a docile populace that can easily be led, groomed and harnessed to serve its interests. They see the parallels in an India during the emergency, with the governing principles that the CCP has established in their own country.

The commies, naxals, and the wokerati are the foot soldiers who are stirring up the muck on the ground, selling, for a few pennies, their rusted and blunted swords to anyone outside India who are willing to pay.

the eyetalian mafia cabal is as fascist as they come. This cozy coterie has set up a caucus that encompasses media, petty intelligentsia comprising mediocre academics and wokerati, pay per view "civil society", suborned babooze, and at least two pillars, including pocket lining opportunistic politicos

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Sep 2023 00:17

Y I Patel wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 23:13 GoI has escalated every single day since this broke. Today’s signals via Indian media:

* Canadian Intel is feeding Turdoo motivated propaganda
* Canada has also been complicit in supporting acts of terror against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Ukraine(!!!)
* USA needs to straighten out its ally or risk loss of credibility in the war against terror

The last one is the biggest piece. It’s moving beyond Canada now.

justinder singh khalistania seems to have stepped on a landmine that was specifically laid for him. He was to have taken out the Modi govt, in return, perhaps, of a guaranteed re election

he is now lying alone on the battle field, with his legs blown away, waiting for help that will not come

who are these puppet masters, Patel saab, if not the amriki deep state.....

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 23 Sep 2023 00:28

Who are the FIVE EYES countries again?

USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand

New Zealand?? What kind of intelligence-gathering capabilities does New Zealand have??

Isn't this just some kind of glorified ANGLO GENTLEMEN'S CLUB?
Even France, Germany, Japan aren't in there.

The APEX DIASPORA helping Prince Justin punch above his weight, through its Deep State.

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 23 Sep 2023 00:29

NZ is the most nefarious spy of them all. Flies below the radar

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 23 Sep 2023 00:34

All in all, popcorn time for jingos. Shiv’s halfmast lungi-clad surly chaprasis are taking care of business with the very very confused gora sahibs.

Amazing how things change when leaders shed subservience.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Sep 2023 00:38

Anglophone solidarity comes up against 'strategic' ties with India: 26 Jan invite to Biden under shadow

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... s?from=mdr

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 23 Sep 2023 01:08

Quad FM’s are meeting in NY . Canucks are left out and sulking

Y I Patel · Post by **Y I Patel** » 23 Sep 2023 01:32

Was the special parliamentary session held in anticipation of this Turdoo dump? We’ll find out- look out for joint fireworks towards the end of the session. Tit for tat with Canadian parliament

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 23 Sep 2023 02:25

Raw using sophisticated techniques to predict Turdeau's every move it seems. Like janam kundli

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 23 Sep 2023 02:40

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/10/can ... r-finance/
FATF now!

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 23 Sep 2023 02:41

https://www.hudson.org/foreign-policy/p ... hin-the-us

FATF now for the US s well !

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 23 Sep 2023 02:56

https://www.reuters.com/world/canadas-t ... 023-09-21/
Canada's Trudeau wants India to cooperate in murder probe, declines to release evidence

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 23 Sep 2023 03:04

Cyrano wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023 02:41 https://www.hudson.org/foreign-policy/p ... hin-the-us

FATF now for the US s well !

Please download the full pdf report at the end of the article and share around you.

USC perfidy and hypocrisy must also be called out.

If Canada is the latest state sponsor of terrorism, who is sponsoring Canada? And what does it make them?

These questions must be raised loudly and openly by every Bharatiya on every possible forum.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 23 Sep 2023 03:12

KLNMurthy wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 19:48 By condoning the Indira-murder float, canada has made it harder for Rahul & congress to join the anti-Modi bandwagon on this.
Congress would have stood with the government anyway, but the float makes it more visceral.

My take is a little different. The anti Trudeau movement should have been initiated by Rahul given the portrayal of his grandmother, previous party president and prime minister. Rahul should have led the charge, not followed the subsequent GoI line.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 23 Sep 2023 03:20

A_Gupta wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 18:10 FYI, from Winnipeg: Sukhdool Singh:
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/break ... -in-punjab

I believe I have a credible allegation of Xi Jinping being responsible for elimination of Sukhdool Singh. Unlike Trudeau, I am willing to share it openly. I will give you the dots to connect.
Sukhdool Singh -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Colebourn -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Milne -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh -> Xi Jinping

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 23 Sep 2023 04:21

From 2019:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 5.ece/amp/

> Congressional committee wants India, Japan and S. Korea at par with Five Eyes on intelligence sharing
That too, a Democrat:
> Congressman Adam Schiff, who chairs the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, in a report to the House of Representatives on Thursday argued the case for India, Japan and South Korea be brought along with the ‘Five Eyes’ so as to maintain peace and rule of law in the Indo-Pacific region.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 23 Sep 2023 04:26

Off topic, but if there is an amareeki deep state, there are two, or there is a schism.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 23 Sep 2023 04:28

No thanks! Joining 5Ayes the first step to vassalization. We love our raw agents like Akshay Kumar who RTId right after setting Turdeau's pants on fire

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 23 Sep 2023 04:33

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 23 Sep 2023 04:56

That’s a significant trial balloon by the senator.

There is already much intel sharing. India has deep assets in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It has significant elint/sigint and space recon assets.

Such a relationship would have been unimaginable 30 years ago. Not bad.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 23 Sep 2023 05:21

A_Gupta wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023 04:21 From 2019:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 5.ece/amp/

> Congressional committee wants India, Japan and S. Korea at par with Five Eyes on intelligence sharing
That too, a Democrat:
> Congressman Adam Schiff, who chairs the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, in a report to the House of Representatives on Thursday argued the case for India, Japan and South Korea be brought along with the ‘Five Eyes’ so as to maintain peace and rule of law in the Indo-Pacific region.

Shifty Schiff can't be trusted.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 23 Sep 2023 05:27

All the canucks have till now is some media leaks and whining to the US. Nothing substantial they can do anyway

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 23 Sep 2023 05:56

yensoy wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023 03:12
KLNMurthy wrote: ↑22 Sep 2023 19:48 By condoning the Indira-murder float, canada has made it harder for Rahul & congress to join the anti-Modi bandwagon on this.
Congress would have stood with the government anyway, but the float makes it more visceral.
My take is a little different. The anti Trudeau movement should have been initiated by Rahul given the portrayal of his grandmother, previous party president and prime minister. Rahul should have led the charge, not followed the subsequent GoI line.

We all know what Rahul is.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 23 Sep 2023 06:00

https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-sh ... 023-09-22/

"We are deeply concerned about the allegations that Prime Minister Trudeau has raised," U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters in a press briefing. "It would be important that India work with the Canadians on this investigation. We want to see accountability."

Jaishankar is in NYC talking to Blinken. So, is this an escalation?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 23 Sep 2023 06:08

Is Pannu a CIA Agent? • Are Trudeau & Jagmeet fighting for the Sikh vote? • 5 Eyes intel flawed?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 23 Sep 2023 06:13

View: How Trudeau’s allegations over Nijjar killing exposes Western double standards

Now that there are no fires to stoke in Kashmir, Khalistan has been weaponized by Trudeau to defame India with the help of US intelligence and propaganda media. It is not for any other reason that Indian intelligence chief told the CIA Director that the only reason they don’t take action against SFJ’s G.S Pannu, who holds dual citizenship of US and Canada, for openly calling for assassinations of Indian diplomats and burning of Indian flag could be because he is actually a CIA agent and batting on behalf of Langley.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 23 Sep 2023 06:13

Atmavik wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023 05:27 All the canucks have till now is some media leaks and whining to the US. Nothing substantial they can do anyway

Turdeo is in political trouble because of mishandling the economy, similarly Biden. Both will be gone by Jan. 2025 and it's best GoI deal with the next group of thugs.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 23 Sep 2023 06:40

> We are deeply concerned about the allegations that Prime Minister Trudeau has raised," U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told reporters in a press briefing. "It would be important that India work with the Canadians on this investigation. We want to see accountability."

Can be read both ways. Canadians must be held accountable.

The five eyes treaty (1946) and its revisions requires all SIGINT of the types defined in the treaty to be available to all members. Did Canada get some that way or did the US go out of its way to draw Canada’s attention to it? Hiding it would be a treaty violation.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 23 Sep 2023 06:53

First thing should be to complete the Kanishka bombing investigation. But then that would be counter productive for turd.

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 23 Sep 2023 06:56

Cyrano wrote: ↑23 Sep 2023 02:40 https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/10/can ... r-finance/
FATF now!

Sir, Michael Rubin's follow up article from today after the Trudeau's allegations are worth a read: https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense ... nada-spat/
Please forward to friends and family widely. He is the only one to hint at the legality of taking this fellow out (and quite rightly, no Indian academic should try to justify an action that GoI has denied responsibility of).