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Sri Lanka has similar complaints against Canada harbouring terrorists

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Chetak,

Both Congress and Badals are done for in Punjab.

Congress, cannot support Khalistani cause. That leaves Badals and AAP.

Badals out of power for 2 election cycles is going to politically destroy them. Especially if AAP decides to go for the kill.

NDA is the only real option for the Badal.

But as you say demented duo don't have any clu about what is good for them.
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Each such act is an opportunity to identify more Khalistanis!
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sanman wrote: 26 Sep 2023 12:29 Sri Lanka has similar complaints against Canada harbouring terrorists
SL has its own axe to grind. Let's not read too much into their "support". They want to clamp down on Tamil diaspora - which is similar to K'stanis in that they also have their criminal elements and raise funds for a separatist cause, but the state & recent history of Tamils in SL and Sikhs in India cannot and should not be compared till the day SL has a Tamil prime minister.
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Tell that to Khalistani clowns in Canada.

Therefore, I am going to accept support from whatever location I get.
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FBI warned prominent US Sikhs of threats after murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... bi-warning
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Former Ambassador Vohra says on TV that there are "credible rumours" that Cocaine was detected by our sniffer dogs, and that he was totally high and could not make it to the dinner hosted by President Murmu.
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Wild thought but time to create our own Three or Five eye - india, israle, Saudi, X, X - what say gurus ?
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How did the WaPo get its hands on the video?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ing-video/

> SURREY, British Columbia — At least six men and two vehicles were involved in the killing of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar outside his place of worship, according to video reviewed by The Washington Post and witness accounts, suggesting a larger and more organized operation than has previously been reported.

> Members of the local Sikh community, meanwhile, say authorities have told them little about their investigation of the June 18 killing outside the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara here. They say police were slow to the scene, and disagreement between agencies caused further delay. Several business owners and residents near the gurdwara say investigators have not visited to ask questions or request security video.

> A 90-second recording of the video reviewed by The Post begins with Nijjar’s gray pickup truck pulling out of a parking space. A white sedan appears in an adjacent lot, pulls up and drives parallel to the truck.

> The vehicles are initially separated by a walkway. When the truck speeds up, the sedan matches its pace. Then the truck merges into the sedan’s lane and for a moment they’re side-by-side.

> As the vehicles approach the parking lot exit, the sedan pulls in front and brakes to block the truck.
> Two men in hooded sweatshirts emerge from under a covered waiting area and move toward the truck. Each points a firearm at the driver’s seat. The sedan exits the parking lot and drives out of view. Then the two men run in the same direction.

> Community members say investigators have told them that the assailants fired about 50 bullets. Thirty-four hit Nijjar.

> Malkit Singh, a Gurdwara committee member who was also playing soccer, saw two hooded men running toward neighboring Cougar Creek Park. He chased them through the park.

> Malkit Singh said he did not recognize the men. He described them as wearing “a Sikh get-up,” with hoodies pulled over small pughs on their heads and masks over their “bearded faces.” One, just over five feet tall and heavyset, was struggling to run fast, Malkit Singh said. The other was about 4 inches taller and leaner.

> The men ran out of the park to a cul-de-sac, he said, and got into a waiting silver car.

> Three other men were waiting inside the silver car, he said. He couldn’t see their faces.

> “One of the [running] men pointed his pistol at me right before getting into the car,” he said. “The smell of gunpowder in the air shocked me and reminded me how dangerous they were.” The five men drove off.

> Witnesses told The Post it took between 12 and 20 minutes after the gunshots for the first police officers to arrive. Members of the community described the interval as shocking, given what they say is the large number of police who regularly patrol the neighborhood.

> Once officers did arrive, Bhupinderjit Singh said, “There was an hours-long tussle between Surrey police and the RCMP. They couldn’t decide who would head the investigation, so there was a delay.”
Asked about Bhupinderjit Singh’s claim, the Surrey Police Service directed The Post to the RCMP. Neither the RCMP nor its homicide investigation team responded to The Post’s questions.

> The Post visited 39 businesses and homes along the path the assailants took during their escape. The majority of those interviewed said they had not been contacted by the authorities.
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it looks more like an organized crime hit
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yensoy wrote: 26 Sep 2023 13:30 SL has its own axe to grind. Let's not read too much into their "support". They want to clamp down on Tamil diaspora - which is similar to K'stanis in that they also have their criminal elements and raise funds for a separatist cause, but the state & recent history of Tamils in SL and Sikhs in India cannot and should not be compared till the day SL has a Tamil prime minister.
Yes, it's obvious why Sri Lanka is joining in with complaints about Canada. But LTTE are no friends to India.

We should take this as an understanding that there are multiple countries which stand to lose from Canada's harbouring of terrorist elements.
India is not alone in this regard. Therefore we should employ the strategy that "There Is Strength in Numbers"
We need to make a list of countries which have suffered even a single instance of violence or interference emanating from Canadian soil.
We need to make a joint common front with such countries against Canada, in order to apply joint pressure.

Canada can try to vilify India, or some other complaining country -- but can they vilify a whole spectrum of countries?

We should rally all nations of the South against Canada, to put collective pressure on them.
How strong will Canada's Left-wing political establishment be in such a fight?
How will the optics of that impact them? They may feel it in the polls and at the ballot box.
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The RCMP did not see fit to collect evidence because they “knew” from the outset that it was India, and specifically Modi.
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What sanman said +100
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Khalistani MPs in Canadian parliament, including even from Conservative Party:

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Watching 'Tim' Uppal in the parliament - with his deference to 'Bhai' Hardeep Singh Nijjar - the only thing we can be certain of is that the Khalistani capture of Canadian polity is complete. Even the conservatives are essentially repeating what Trudeau has said, which leads me to believe that things are not likely to be any better if Poilievre comes to power.
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Ardeshir wrote: 26 Sep 2023 18:18 Watching 'Tim' Uppal in the parliament - with his deference to 'Bhai' Hardeep Singh Nijjar - the only thing we can be certain of is that the Khalistani capture of Canadian polity is complete. Even the conservatives are essentially repeating what Trudeau has said, which leads me to believe that things are not likely to be any better if Poilievre comes to power.
Or they are acting as per the directions of their host country, I think many are giving benefit of doubt here.
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Here is the dailyo summary of what the Washington Post found:

https://www.dailyo.in/news/nijjar-murde ... port-41672
The footage, as per the report: The 90-second surveillance footage captured the moments leading up to Nijjar's killing. According to The Washington Post, it shows Nijjar's grey pickup truck exiting the parking space outside the gurudwara in Surrey, British Columbia. In the meantime, a white sedan pulls up and drives parallel to it. The two vehicles momentarily run side by side, separated by a walkway. As Nijjar's truck looks to accelerate, the sedan matches its speed, eventually moving in front of the pickup truck to block its path. Two men wearing hooded sweatshirts come out from a covered area, pointing firearms at the truck's driver. The sedan quickly exits the parking lot, followed by the two assailants. The footage also shows the two gunmen fleeing the scene. Witnesses estimated that approximately 50 shots were fired, with 34 striking Nijjar.

Eyewitness accounts: The Washington Post report used the surveillance footage along with statements provided by eyewitnesses, leading to the conclusion that the incident was a "coordinated attack". The report drew conclusions based on the statements of three gurudwara volunteers: Bhupinderjit Singh, Malkit Singh, and Gurmeet Singh Toor. All three of them had reportedly seen the assailants and heard the gunshots outside the gurudwara on June 18. According to one of these witnesses, the assailants were dressed in a "Sikh appearance". They wore hoodies with small pughs (turbans) on their heads and masks that covered their bearded faces.
If one believes Malkit Singh, the two shooters were 5 foot and 5 foot 4 inches tall, and escaped in a car with three other men in it.

So, unto 6 people (the driver of the white sedan, the two shooters, the driver of the second getaway car, and the three other people in that car) and two cars (the white sedan and the second car, the 2008 silver Toyota) -- but the Canadians are looking for 3 people and one car.

Perhaps they discount the eyewitness evidence as flawed. E.g., maybe the video shows the shooters to be taller than what Malkit Singh said.

That still leaves four people (two drivers and two shooters) and two cars -- all proven by video/camera evidence.

The rational reason for not seeking the white sedan and its driver is that the Canadian cops already have them. Then it means that this driver has not or cannot yield the identities of the other three.

Why would the Canadian authorities not release the fact that they have one of the persons involved in the shooting?
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Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to a Nazi which turned into an international embarrassment for them yesterday. This is the level of vetting and intelligence they do about foreigners. It’s a complete joke.

https://news.yahoo.com/canada-row-over- ... 26631.html
Canada's House Speaker apologises for praising Ukrainian who fought for Nazis
Nadine Yousif - BBC News, Toronto
Mon, September 25, 2023 at 12:04 PM PDT·4 min read
The Speaker of Canada's House of Commons, Anthony Rota, has apologised for praising a Ukrainian man who served in a Nazi unit during World War Two.

Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery and got a standing ovation in parliament after Mr Rota said he was a "hero" during a visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Canadian Jewish group CIJA said it was "deeply troubled" that a former member of a Nazi division that participated in the genocide of Jews had been celebrated.
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sanman wrote: 26 Sep 2023 17:35
yensoy wrote: 26 Sep 2023 13:30 SL has its own axe to grind. Let's not read too much into their "support". They want to clamp down on Tamil diaspora - which is similar to K'stanis in that they also have their criminal elements and raise funds for a separatist cause, but the state & recent history of Tamils in SL and Sikhs in India cannot and should not be compared till the day SL has a Tamil prime minister.
Yes, it's obvious why Sri Lanka is joining in with complaints about Canada. But LTTE are no friends to India.

We should take this as an understanding that there are multiple countries which stand to lose from Canada's harbouring of terrorist elements.
India is not alone in this regard. Therefore we should employ the strategy that "There Is Strength in Numbers"
We need to make a list of countries which have suffered even a single instance of violence or interference emanating from Canadian soil.
We need to make a joint common front with such countries against Canada, in order to apply joint pressure.

Canada can try to vilify India, or some other complaining country -- but can they vilify a whole spectrum of countries?

We should rally all nations of the South against Canada, to put collective pressure on them.
How strong will Canada's Left-wing political establishment be in such a fight?
How will the optics of that impact them? They may feel it in the polls and at the ballot box.


sanman ji,


India had a big part to play in the defeat of the ltte. It is a very sore point in many white countries.

It had thrown a cordon sanitaire around the island, not letting anything get in or get out out.

The SLs herded the ltte using any and every tactic to get them into specific isolation zones from where escape was next to impossible. It was in these pockets that the final battles took took place. Both sides were equally ruthless and took very heavy casualties. So much for the so called "peaceful" reputation of the buddhists.....

Even here they had help with comint and sigint and the SL army had humint of their own which they trusted.

For sure, the LTTE are no friends to India, but they have plenty of dravidiya and padre pals here

They are rebuilding and expanding in dravidiya land, and now, they have patronage from the cheen, as well as, the pakis, and their previous masters, the BIF continue as before, to be their age old benefactors
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Trudeau has already called the presence of that Ukrainian in the Canadian parliament as Russian propoganda.

The west is dead. Trudeau's continuation each day in the government is a confirmation of this.
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Pratyush wrote: 26 Sep 2023 20:39 Trudeau has already called the presence of that Ukrainian in the Canadian parliament as Russian propoganda.

The west is dead. Trudeau's continuation each day in the government is a confirmation of this.

Pratyush ji,

justinder had already dug a hole for himself making accusations against India in their parliament

Having plumbed the depths of that hole, he has again dug himself a new hole at the bottom of the first hole by "honoring" a nazi in his parliament.

The head of his state is charlie boy, back in lundun and charlie boy, back in lundun, is not going to take responsibility for this latest "nazi" landmine that justinder has stepped on, again!!!

At the rate justinder is going, a lynch mob may soon gather, just to "honor" him
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Poland may seek extradition of Ukrainian Nazi WW2 veteran Hunka from Canada

A Polish government minister has launched a bid to extradite Yaroslav Hunka, the 98-year-old Ukrainian-Canadian man who fought in a German-Nazi division during World War Two and last week received a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament.

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What Bhutan is to Bharat, Kenada is similar to Unkil when it comes to foreign policy.
Unkil has been using the kenadian soil to dump all useful idiots (tigers, khalistanis, etc etc) for its own use.
I see Unkil's fingerprints all over.
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NRao wrote: 26 Sep 2023 20:49 Poland may seek extradition of Ukrainian Nazi WW2 veteran Hunka from Canada

A Polish government minister has launched a bid to extradite Yaroslav Hunka, the 98-year-old Ukrainian-Canadian man who fought in a German-Nazi division during World War Two and last week received a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament................


NRao ji,


they should do it quickly, before the mossad comes visiting
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chetak wrote: 26 Sep 2023 20:37 sanman ji,


India had a big part to play in the defeat of the ltte. It is a very sore point in many white countries.

It had thrown a cordon sanitaire around the island, not letting anything get in or get out out.

The SLs herded the ltte using any and every tactic to get them into specific isolation zones from where escape was next to impossible. It was in these pockets that the final battles took took place. Both sides were equally ruthless and took very heavy casualties. So much for the so called "peaceful" reputation of the buddhists.....

Even here they had help with comint and sigint and the SL army had humint of their own which they trusted.

For sure, the LTTE are no friends to India, but they have plenty of dravidiya and padre pals here

They are rebuilding and expanding in dravidiya land, and now, they have patronage from the cheen, as well as, the pakis, and their previous masters, the BIF continue as before, to be their age old benefactors
That's why Colombo should be wary of hosting Chinese and their military ships, since they need to understand that China would be very happy to switch away from them to supporting Eelamists.
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"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Monday the decision to invite a Ukrainian veteran who fought in a Nazi unit to a recent parliamentary event honouring Ukraine's president was "deeply embarrassing."

from:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anthon ... -1.6977384
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sanman wrote: 26 Sep 2023 17:35 Yes, it's obvious why Sri Lanka is joining in with complaints about Canada. But LTTE are no friends to India.

We should take this as an understanding that there are multiple countries which stand to lose from Canada's harbouring of terrorist elements.
Of course we should and we will take the support. But we need to be aware of their intent here. LTTE is no friend of anyone, nor are the Khalistanis. It is only a reminder that they are looking after their interests and on this point it coincides with our interests.
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@ShivAroor.5h

Two images tell a story:

BEFORE Indian action: Hundreds at Khalistani protest outside Indian High Commission in Canada

AFTER Indian action, property seizures etc: 5 protesters at protest outside Indian High Commission in Canada




WATCH VIDEO
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https://www.rediff.com/news/column/is-b ... 230925.htm
Is Biden Using Trudeau To Get Back At Modi?
Ambassador M K BHADRAKUMAR, September 25, 2023

Once the Canadian investigation runs its course, Ottawa may put on the public domain further accusations passing for 'evidence' -- and that could happen at some point closer to our general election.
The big question is, what is it that the US is really up to, asks Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar.
The special session of Parliament let External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar off the hook.
He skipped the BRICS foreign ministers meeting on the margins of the United Nations General Assembly in New York on September 20. BRICS is becoming an albatross that prevents the Modi government from leading a normal and happy life.
The timing of the Canadian assault on the Indian foreign and security policy establishment over the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar is not in doubt.
It surged in the aftermath of the G20 summit, which witnessed a crushing diplomatic defeat for the US in front of the world community, where the host country India navigated skilfully to scuttle any negative reference to Russia in the event's final document.
The Nijjar affair can be metaphorically called the grapes of wrath.
The liberal Western world so far granted Modi government a free passage through their rules-based order.
India could preach, but wasn't accountable for its own practice. All good things come to an end.
Canada has a record of acting as a surrogate of the US.
The strange case of Huawei's board deputy chair Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver airport on December 1, 2018 comes to mind.
The billionaire-heiress was rudely arrested on a provisional US extradition request for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud.
But in August 2021, the extradition judge questioned the regularity of the case and expressed 'great difficulty in understanding' how the Record of Case presented by the US government supported its allegation of criminality.
And on September 24, 2021, the US department of justice reached a deal.
On December 2, 2022, the presiding judge dismissed the charges against Meng following a US request.
As regards the Nijjar file, a Canadian official familiar with the matter told Associated Press that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's allegation against Modi government was based on surveillance of Indian diplomats in Canada, including intelligence provided by a 'major ally' who is a member of the infamous Five Eyes, the secretive intelligence network of Anglo-Saxon countries -- Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and the US.
Interestingly, Britain scrambled to distance itself (external link) from Trudeau's tirade, while a Canadian source told Reuters that Canberra and Washington collaborated 'very closely' to examine evidence indicating potential Indian involvement in Nijjar's killing.
Trudeau spoke in the Canadian parliament after consultations with President Biden, and the White House reaction on the same day was highly supportive.
White House National Security Council Spokesperson Adrienne Watson said, 'We are deeply concerned about the allegations referenced by Prime Minister Trudeau. We remain in regular contact with our Canadian partners. It is critical that Canada's investigation proceed and the perpetrators be brought to justice.'
Watson works under National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan who reports directly to Biden. It is unlikely that Sullivan made this a personal issue with the Indian security establishment.
Simply put, the buck stops at the Oval Office.
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Gautam
I am not a fan of Mr. Bhadrakumar, but it is undeniable that Canada is a surrogate of Khan, and does nothing without informing him.
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drnayar wrote: 27 Sep 2023 00:46
Please Sirji, all Pappus are into recreational drugs and must indulge from time to time. And cocaine? it is a drug of the rich and famous, and Justinder was under a lot of stress. Please learn to forgive and forget.
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I think it may have been a trial balloon sent by US to gage the Indian and more importantly World reaction in a sort of power projection capabilities assessment. If so, the results are a bit of a shock to Khanate as there was very sharp reaction from GoI but almost effortless put down of the Canadian pappu and the media lapdogs.
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Aditya_V wrote: 26 Sep 2023 18:22
Ardeshir wrote: 26 Sep 2023 18:18 Watching 'Tim' Uppal in the parliament - with his deference to 'Bhai' Hardeep Singh Nijjar - the only thing we can be certain of is that the Khalistani capture of Canadian polity is complete. Even the conservatives are essentially repeating what Trudeau has said, which leads me to believe that things are not likely to be any better if Poilievre comes to power.
Or they are acting as per the directions of their host country, I think many are giving benefit of doubt here.
Please expand on that saar - I would have thought that the Conservatives would have been jumping on this opportunity to set themselves apart from the Liberals.
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Roland Paris
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I'm glad the Speaker of the House of Commons quickly apologized and took responsibility for this mistake, but it was so egregious – so injurious to Canada, our Parliament and our Ukrainian partners, and so offensive to Jews everywhere – he needs to resign.



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We'll all be glad when the Prime Minister is asked to resign, for his mistake, so injurious to Canada, the Parliament, Indian partners, and so offensive to people of Indian origin everywhere.
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:rotfl: :rotfl:

I won’t be surprised if that Junkie Trudeau starts celebrating Osama jayanti along with Bhindarwala birthday. That should get him a lot of votes.
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Canadian newspaper:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/canada ... ss-galicia

> Long before Galicia Division veteran Yaroslav Hunka ever scored an invite to Parliament Hill, Canada spent decades overlooking and even providing official cover for an organization that would later claim to be full of Ukrainian freedom-fighters, but was founded by Nazis, served under Nazi command and fought exclusively to serve Nazi aims.
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