India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 02 Oct 2023 11:45

Absolutely right Williams ji !

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 02 Oct 2023 12:09

There are huge lines outside of Indian consulates in Canada for OCI cards as India suspended visas. Most folks in line seemed to fit the description of Khalistanis. Under no circumstances should they be issued OCI.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 02 Oct 2023 17:53

This is a golden chance for India to have very strict visa / OCI forms for Canadian ~~Sikhs~~ Khalistanis with the following queries:

1. Do you support the demand for Khalistan -- Yes / No
2. Have you participated in any Khalistan-related event / rally / protest march in the last five years -- Yes / No
3. Do you have association with any Gurudwara where Khalistan related events are held? -- Yes / No
4. Have you donated money in the previous five years for any Khalistan-related cause? - Yes / No
5. Please provide details of all social media handles you have used in the last five years (Twitter / FB / Instagram / YouTube)

These Khalistani jokers and their passive supporters need to understand that entering India is a privilege, not a right

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 02 Oct 2023 18:52

Sukh Dhaliwal MP and Nijjar were together running and immigration racket and splitting the money. Expose in TV channels

Canada goose getting cooked

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 02 Oct 2023 20:45

I do not see much reporting on this topic: Canada requires all streaming services to register with the Canadian government.

There are unsubstantiated reports that Indian podcasts are/have been banned (Sanjay Dixit on Jaipur Dialogs with Aadi Achint, 30 minutes ago) because the Indian public response has been too much.

Is a wave of censorship coming? The Canadian Government will begin to regulate streaming services that broadcast podcasts

“Trudeau is trying to crush free speech in Canada. Shameful,” Elon Musk wrote on Twitter.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 02 Oct 2023 21:09

This Jagmeet Singh character seems to have gained control of the NDP by a recruitment drive amongst the khalistani community.

The party has a membership according to Wiki of 124,260 in 2017.
The President is Dhananjai Kohli, that is a Hindu Punjabi name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party

How difficult would it be for non-khalistani, Indians to join en masse and take control and get rid of Jagmeet Singh ?

Is it illegal in Canada to be a member of more than one political party ? Are the membership lists published ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Oct 2023 21:44

Can someone put a chronology of Nijjar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 03 Oct 2023 00:25

https://www.wsj.com/articles/india-sikh ... a-dec03403

India Remembers Justin Trudeau’s Interference
This isn’t the first time the Canadian prime minister has pointed the finger at New Delhi.

In 2021 Mr. Trudeau aligned himself with agitators who were campaigning against Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s agriculture privatization. Meanwhile, Canadian trade policy has long had India in its crosshairs over the latter’s heavy-handed subsidies and elaborate state support for Indian grain farmers. This would be analogous to the government of India encouraging Saskatchewan farmers to protest the dissolution of the Canadian Wheat Board.
Adding to the irony, Mr. Trudeau went on to reproach the Indian government over its handling of the protesters—as if his own record exemplifies human rights, pluralism and constitutional rule of law. When Canadian truckers bemoaned their country’s draconian vaccine mandates, Mr. Trudeau invoked “emergency powers” to forcibly break up the strike and freeze the lorrymen’s bank accounts.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 03 Oct 2023 01:55

williams wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023 10:22
A_Gupta wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023 23:35 > I don;t understand this need for India being cleared by the West/Whites/Five Eyes or whetever......That is good for me.

This is good enough for Indians and makes for great rhetoric.
...
"Good enough for me" is "frog in the well" kind of framework of thinking.
EAM declared Indian policy and was also open to investigating specifics if provided. That should be more than enough for everyone.

@Williams ji, well put.

The real problem is the continuing pile on India who had been a well-behaved member of the comity of nations while turning a blind eye to China and their Munna PaXi (PaXi is what Pakis call Xi - Dad Xi - one of the four fathers). Kanneddian pappu is the darling of the LeLis of the west and east kosta elites. Hence all this pap of "India has to come clean" or "be cleared by the goras".

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2023 05:02

Details of Canadian podcast censorship:

First, the CRTC is setting out which online streaming services need to provide information about their activities in Canada. Online streaming services that operate in Canada, offer broadcasting content, and earn $10 million or more in annual revenues will need to complete a registration form by November 28, 2023. Registration collects basic information, is only required once and can be completed in just a few steps.

Second, the CRTC is setting conditions for online streaming services to operate in Canada. These conditions take effect today and require certain online streaming services to provide the CRTC with information related to their content and subscribership. The decision also requires those services to make content available in a way that is not tied to a specific mobile or Internet service.

A third consultation is ongoing. It considers contributions traditional broadcasters and online streaming services will need to make to support Canadian and Indigenous content. The CRTC will hold a three-week public proceeding starting on November 20, 2023, and will hear from 129 intervenors representing a broad range of interests.

Would YouTube be considered to be a "specific Internet service" -- so that e.g., The Jaipur Dialogues would have to publish on more than just YouTube if it doesn't already?

Likewise with "support Canadian and indigenous content" -- will The Jaipur Dialogues be required to also support Canadian content?

I suppose if "Yes" to either means that if it doesn't comply, The Jaipur Dialogues could be blocked in Canada?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Oct 2023 05:40

@williams:

If I agree with you, I will have to concede that when the US President told Congress that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, the world should have accepted it without question.

There is no assumption that 5 Eyes, Blinken, Trudeau, etc. have credibility. Nor do I give credibility to the WaPo, it spoke to people who blame India and it is those very same people who said "jurisdictional fights" - do read the whole article. Btw, the RCMP has denied two parts of the WaPo report - they arrived at the murder scene within 4 minutes of receiving the call, and they say no jurisdictional issues. The WaPo itself has little credibility, IMO, so we have three sets of potential liars here.

BTW, the US has still not declared what happened in Bangladesh in 1971 was a genocide, and Canada exonerated the Kanishka bomber. Why would the world trust their words?

Same holds for why would the world trust India's words? The huge part of the field of international relations is how to build this trust.

And BTW, which enemy of India is making the most of TD's accusation? What did India lose so far because of these enemies?

If you cast a wide eye on the news, you will find out. It is still more "potential" than "actual", so out of my superstition that talking can sometimes make potential into real, I won't say more.

But just FYI, all those global democracy & freedom indices - they actually feed into Moody's and S&P's sovereign credit ratings - and India's credit rating goes down because of all the crap those folks have indexed India with. That costs the Government of India a good deal of money in borrowing costs.

Is it fair or just? Of course not.
Is it reality? Yes it is.

August 18, 2023:

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/moo ... 023-08-18/
Moody's:

"The Baa3 rating and stable outlook also take into account a curtailment of civil society and political dissent, compounded by rising domestic political risk."

The Philippines, Hungary, Croatia, Kazakhstan and such have a Moody's Baa2 rating. There is typically a 43 basis points improvement in going from Baa3 to Baa2. That is an additional $4.3 million on each $billion of debt that India is paying unnecessarily each year, just because of these crap attacks on India. India's current foreign debt stands at around $630 billion.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 03 Oct 2023 06:59

Interesting indeed.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 03 Oct 2023 07:45

@A-Gupta, I did not know that ratings factored freedom and democracy too. So basically the entire system is rigged against non-western nations.

williams · Post by **williams** » 03 Oct 2023 07:48

Same holds for why would the world trust India's words? The huge part of the field of international relations is how to build this trust.

All I am saying is Canada's allegations are not credible and the 5 eye countries have only provided token support. India while being assertive has said that it will cooperate if there is specific information. The world may not trust India's words but has not rallied behind Canada with swelling anger or pride.

But just FYI, all those global democracy & freedom indices - they actually feed into Moody's and S&P's sovereign credit ratings - and India's credit rating goes down because of all the crap those folks have indexed India with. That costs the Government of India a good deal of money in borrowing costs.

Agreed but look below: India's ratings have been historically bad. Tell me honestly, are we going to see the credit rating increase when India is cleared of this issue? Also, are we saying that all it takes to reduce India's credibility is to make an allegation in a Western parliament?

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/India/credit_rating/

These (including the freedom index) are WWII white Western colonial constructs that are never going to change until India makes her own international rules and order. The starting point for that is to stand up for these wild allegations and not be cowed down for any reason of fear or superstition. Creating self-doubt is the old Anglo-Saxon ploy and Indians cannot be suckered into it again and again.

BTW if in the unlikely scenario that India is involved, we have enough international clout today to deal with it, since the guy who got killed is neither a saint nor an upholder of Canadian freedom of expression.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 03 Oct 2023 09:14

Wow Canada has AAA rating from Moodys

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 03 Oct 2023 09:29

Benefits of being white.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 03 Oct 2023 10:26

India kicks out ~20 Canadian embassy staff. India has ordered them to leave before 10th October

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/india- ... 119671.cms

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 03 Oct 2023 11:27

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 023-10-03/
India tells Canada to withdraw 41 diplomats - FT
Reuters, October 2, 2023
India has told Canada that it must repatriate 41 diplomats by Oct. 10, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday.
Ties between India and Canada have become seriously strained over Canadian suspicion that Indian government agents had a role in the June murder in Canada of a Sikh separatist leader and Canadian citizen, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, who India had labeled a "terrorist".
India has dismissed the allegation as absurd.
The Financial Times, citing people familiar with the Indian demand, said India had threatened to revoke the diplomatic immunity of those diplomats told to leave who remained after Oct. 10.
Canada has 62 diplomats in India and India had said that the total should be reduced by 41, the newspaper said.
The Indian and Canadian foreign ministries did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
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Gautam
Just was beat by Krithivasji.
Also see:
https://www.ft.com/content/9663a97e-9ee ... ccbe432203
India tells Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomatic staff
Move marks deepening rift between Ottawa and New Delhi over murder of Sikh separatist
Demetri Sevastopulo, Ottawa,10/2/2023
India has told Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomats from the country, in an escalation of the crisis that erupted when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said New Delhi may have been linked to the murder of a Canadian Sikh.
Ottawa has been told by New Delhi that it must repatriate roughly 40 diplomats by October 10, according to people familiar with the demand. One person said India had threatened to revoke the diplomatic immunity of diplomats who remain after that date.
The Canadian foreign ministry and the Indian government declined to comment. New Delhi has previously said it wanted “parity” in the number and grade of diplomats each nation posts to the other.
......

SidSom · Post by **SidSom** » 03 Oct 2023 11:40

I am COnfused ...

Are we kicking out 20 Diplomats or 41 Diplomats ?

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 03 Oct 2023 11:42

Reuters says 41. FT says roughly 40. Both are reputable and certainly not pro-India.
Gautam
Added later: this is now being reported in many newspapers now.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 03 Oct 2023 12:02

60+ diplomats + unknown number of local staffers ! Canada seems to be running quite a racket in India.

Hope the EAM reviews staff strength of all the NATO countries as well.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2023 12:04

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 01:55
williams wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023 10:22
EAM declared Indian policy and was also open to investigating specifics if provided. That should be more than enough for everyone.
@Williams ji, well put.

The real problem is the continuing pile on India who had been a well-behaved member of the comity of nations while turning a blind eye to China and their Munna PaXi (PaXi is what Pakis call Xi - Dad Xi - one of the four fathers). Kanneddian pappu is the darling of the LeLis of the west and east kosta elites. Hence all this pap of "India has to come clean" or "be cleared by the goras".

Vayutuvan ji,

5eyes was deliberately shoehorned into the kanadian equation to leverage the alleged FEAR that such a rogue grouping of "intelligence" gatherers was meant to evoke in third world India

They were setting up to beat down Modi and belittle him and India on the international arena

they now have kanadian pappu poo all over their WASP faces

any "evidence" that they produce is proof of illegal surveillance activity against India on foreign soil, a distinctly unfriendly act with serious geopolitical, and diplomatic consequences.....

If they do not produce "evidence", it is a tangible affirmation of their rapidly growing unease at India's burgeoning relevance in global affairs and their desperate reliance on mechanisms of false narrative building to belittle, restrain, and restrict India's rise by indulging in geopolitical gymnastics as a means to assert their own supremacy and underline India's status as a vassal state.

This plan seems to have unravelled dramatically, and the hidden maîtres de marionnettes have all but abandoned justinder to his well deserved fate

Jaishankar has adroitly turned the tables on them and, till date, neither he nor Modi have made even a single statement on this matter..........

Many others are watching with bated breath....

India now needs to publicly skewer justinder, twist the knife, and politically perform a सर तन से जुदा as a warning

Modi needs to send out a very strong message before 2024.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2023 12:07

Cyrano wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:02 60+ diplomats + unknown number of local staffers ! Canada seems to be running quite a racket in India.
Hope the EAM reviews staff strength of all the NATO countries as well.

Cyrano ji,

This is a warning to ALL western embassies.

They are all doing the exact same thing by bringing in their excess staff.

It's high time they were shown their places.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 03 Oct 2023 12:23

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/n ... mmendation
No house, no job: Canadian dream turning into nightmare for Indian students
The housing crisis, coupled with lack of jobs and inflation, is making the lives of Indian students in Canada extremely difficult. Such is the situation that some are questioning if shifting to Canada at this moment should even be considered.
Yudhajit Shankar Das, New Delhi,Sep 27, 2023
Students who have landed fresh from India are lugging their bags and going door to door in residential neighbourhoods in Canada’s Ontario, seeking spaces on rent from absolute strangers. The desperate move by the students, without a roof over their heads, isn’t welcomed by most residents.
Around 30 students, mostly from India, who joined the Canadore College in North Bay, Ontario, protested outside its campus in the first week of September as they were left without shelter. The institute provided the Indian students with just two days of accommodation and then left them to fend for themselves.
The Canadian dream is turning into an unimaginable nightmare for Indians, mostly students in their 20s. Behind this is a housing crisis and a lack of part-time jobs that students bank upon to sustain themselves thousands of kilometres away from home and family.
In 2023, Canada is on track to welcome 500,000 permanent residents on top of a staggering 900,000 international students. One of the key reasons for the Canadian government to bring in immigrants is to drive economic growth and resiliency.
The drive, though, comes at a time when Canada is witnessing a housing crisis.
There is abysmally low construction of houses and the record-high interest rates have made new housing units beyond the reach of common Canadians and new immigrants.
There is a shortfall of at least 3,45,000 housing units across Canada, according to government data.
House rents have skyrocketed too, pushing students to cramped basement setups where their safety is compromised.
Why so many students flock to Canada every year is not because of education. It’s because the student visa provides what is thought to be an easy route to Canada, and then a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship. The student visa route is one of the main channels through which foreign citizens emigrate to Canada. Indians make up the bulk of the foreign students in Canada.
In 2022, 2.26 lakh students out of 5.5 lakh international students, or 40 per cent of the total, were from India, according to Canadian government data. And there were 3.2 lakh Indians staying in Canada on student visas.
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Gautam

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 03 Oct 2023 12:52

chetak wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:04 5eyes was deliberately shoehorned into the kanadian equation to leverage the alleged FEAR that such a rogue grouping of "intelligence" gatherers was meant to evoke in third world India
They were setting up to beat down Modi and belittle him and India on the international arena
they now have kanadian pappu poo all over their WASP faces
any "evidence" that they produce is proof of illegal surveillance activity against India on foreign soil, a distinctly unfriendly act with serious geopolitical, and diplomatic consequences.....

Sir what I totally don't understand is why they don't use this "evidence" to arrest the perpetrators or at least name them, and attribute the actions to the great capabilities of the RCMP? At least that way they can claim to move the case forward instead of retreating behind a "we are white guys and we made a statement in parliament, therefore you better believe this is true" facade. Is their evidence so weak that they have zero clue as to who the assassins were, or who was their ringleader? By now I would have expected them to catch someone and get them to sing that "Modi called me directly and told me to do XXX" which would have put the GoI on the defensive.

It's like SJ is at the crease ready waiting for a fulltoss and the bowler (Trudeau) grabs the ball and runs back into the pavilion not wanting to deliver.

BTW, I am happy that GoI didn't back down on the visa issuance guideline and has gently reminded Canada to repatriate 41 officers.

We need to get OCI applicants to provide photos from multiple angles and match it against video from demonstrations. Let's issue the OCI card anyway to these folks, and arrest them when they get to India. Let's see how the remaining 21 officers deal with the additional workload needed for consular access, especially when these cases are transferred to Assam, Tripura, Odisha and A&N island courts to "distribute workload".

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 03 Oct 2023 12:57

Cyrano wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:02 60+ diplomats + unknown number of local staffers ! Canada seems to be running quite a racket in India.
...
Hope the EAM reviews staff strength of all the NATO countries as well.

chetak wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:07 This is a warning to ALL western embassies.
...
It's high time they were shown their places.

We cannot and don't need to take on everyone at the same time. We need to play the divide and rule game. Or go with the Chinese "Kill the chicken to scare the monkey" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_the_ ... the_monkey approach - make an example of Canada to ensure the message spreads far and wide to not mess with us because we are unpredictable and we won't back down.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 03 Oct 2023 12:58

You need to hurt them where it hurts. Most Indians have an OCI. There is no canadian equivalent, they have to issue visas. We need to close all their consulates in India and expel their staff, particularly the one in Chandigarh. It costs us nothing except the saving we make by withdrawing our consular staff from Canada. Their high commissions staffs life in Delhi will change irrevocably

I am so Very, Very Happy!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2023 13:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK_dljjD2XA

India tells Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomats from the country

India has told Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomats from the country, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday. Ottawa has been told by New Delhi that it must repatriate roughly 40 diplomats by Oct 10, the report said, citing people familiar with the demand.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 03 Oct 2023 13:01

Why do all the English speaking nations (and western European nations) seem to have the same crises together. 2008 subprime crisis, inflation, now housing crisis. Herd mentality.

Most canadian college education for International students is worthless. They cannot find a job after finishing their education. Same with the US. But they are inviting more and more students. I see several online ads everyday by companies providing consultancy for US education, Canadian/European education/immigration. Growth at all costs seems to be the anglo saxon motto in contrast to Eastern European countries which resist immigration like Poland even though they have a very low birth rate combined with emigration to Western Europe especially England (at least before brexit).

At least fix your fricking housing crisis before taking in more immigrants.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 03 Oct 2023 13:07

For those who like to read fairy tales,

https://archive.ph/JragE

FT - India tells Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomatic staff

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 03 Oct 2023 13:18

hanumadu wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 13:01 At least fix your fricking housing crisis before taking in more immigrants.

This is the part I don't understand. Canada should be welcoming thousands of new immigrants into trade schools where they will be trained in skills which are really needed to fix their multiple crises. Skills like home construction and civil work. I'm sure to the average fellow from Punjab it would hardly matter - in fact it would be more desirable to get a diploma and job in the field rather than get a useless degree and a job at a gas station. Canada has all the land it needs, it has all the timber it needs, so why is housing so expensive? They can keep building development after development and selling the units to Chinese who can in turn rent it to Indians. Everyone wins. Yet they are fixated trying to figure out who killed their plumber in chief.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 03 Oct 2023 13:37

They just want fees from Indians students that keep Canadian university running and subsidize fee of Canadian students. They don't give a rat's ass if indian students live on tents on streets, as long as they cough up their fee on time

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 03 Oct 2023 13:54

yensoy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 13:18
hanumadu wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 13:01 At least fix your fricking housing crisis before taking in more immigrants.
This is the part I don't understand. Canada should be welcoming thousands of new immigrants into trade schools where they will be trained in skills which are really needed to fix their multiple crises. Skills like home construction and civil work. I'm sure to the average fellow from Punjab it would hardly matter - in fact it would be more desirable to get a diploma and job in the field rather than get a useless degree and a job at a gas station. Canada has all the land it needs, it has all the timber it needs, so why is housing so expensive? They can keep building development after development and selling the units to Chinese who can in turn rent it to Indians. Everyone wins. Yet they are fixated trying to figure out who killed their plumber in chief.

seems like they want only nazis, jihadis and khalistanis. Good way to become the next pakistan

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 03 Oct 2023 13:56

sanjayc wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 13:37 They just want fees from Indians students that keep Canadian university running and subsidize fee of Canadian students. They don't give a rat's ass if indian students live on tents on streets, as long as they cough up their fee on time

dont think any hindu student should be going to Canada if at all..whats the use if your very life is at stake ?!!

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 03 Oct 2023 14:10

The common feature of ALL western politicians and govts is that they have no morals, no vision, no desire to do something good for their own country, much less the world.

They are a decadent bunch of rentier economies that are fast eating away their colonial fortunes and don't care what happens next, only their past momentum of wealth and established grip on world financial markets and their grip on certain countries that still don't have a way out but to sell their resources to these developed countries - is making them chug along.

When I started travelling abroad in late 90s and even until 2010 or so, things were not this bad, or perhaps I (and perhaps like many here) weren't such keen followers of global trends and geopolitics.

Its has been a constantly accelerating downhill trend since then for the west as I observe it.

Just like India is rising today on waves of virtuous cycles, the west is inexorably declining on waves of vicious cycles. Both of their own making.

Canada's decline is easily visible due to its small population, economy and near irrelevant military capacity. But all others also have clay feet and rainbow papier-maché legs. Its just a matter of time...

srin · Post by **srin** » 03 Oct 2023 14:12

yensoy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:52
chetak wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:04 5eyes was deliberately shoehorned into the kanadian equation to leverage the alleged FEAR that such a rogue grouping of "intelligence" gatherers was meant to evoke in third world India
They were setting up to beat down Modi and belittle him and India on the international arena
they now have kanadian pappu poo all over their WASP faces
any "evidence" that they produce is proof of illegal surveillance activity against India on foreign soil, a distinctly unfriendly act with serious geopolitical, and diplomatic consequences.....
Sir what I totally don't understand is why they don't use this "evidence" to arrest the perpetrators or at least name them, and attribute the actions to the great capabilities of the RCMP?

Because intelligence is not evidence. Intelligence is often vague and probabilistic and having lot of correlations from which causation can't be assumed ("this fellow died, Indian diplomats that we've under surveillance are happy, so Indian Govt did it"). That is why they use weasel words - "linked", "credible allegations" etc
Only in the fertile pappu mind of Turdeau that intelligence is evidence.
Now, he has to disclose the info (which can unravel the 5eyes intelligence apparatus used against us) or look like an idiot with no credibility.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2023 15:05

yensoy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:52
chetak wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 12:04 5eyes was deliberately shoehorned into the kanadian equation to leverage the alleged FEAR that such a rogue grouping of "intelligence" gatherers was meant to evoke in third world India
They were setting up to beat down Modi and belittle him and India on the international arena
they now have kanadian pappu poo all over their WASP faces
any "evidence" that they produce is proof of illegal surveillance activity against India on foreign soil, a distinctly unfriendly act with serious geopolitical, and diplomatic consequences.....
Sir what I totally don't understand is why they don't use this "evidence" to arrest the perpetrators or at least name them, and attribute the actions to the great capabilities of the RCMP?

yensoy ji,

The objective is to get India to agree to 'cooperate" in the "investigation"

The global press is very quiet on this matter, barring a few ill informed or insanely speculative pieces that say nothing but are more interested in muck raking...

Even in the Indian press, a few of the woke scoundrels are very carefully playing the "what if.... game", meaning "what if India is involved" and thus, as per them, India has an obligation to "clear the air"

Our presstitutes and wokes have always been bottle fed on a steady diet of "white is always right".....

The minute India agrees to "cooperate" in the "investigations", the global media will descend on us with all their might, instantly declaring us as 'guilty", in the massive media blitz that will follow, and try us in a toolkit based "media trial" that has already been primed for release

The application of law, or even the lawfulness of their actions" will never be questioned. The narrative (of an out of control rogue state led by dictator Modi) that they seek to build against India and Modi is their end game.

They need Modi out and pappu in. Truth and/or justice doesn't enter into the equation.

Modi and Jaishankar weren't born yesterday, and their political acumen in dealing with our frenemies is beyond question

canpappu has been sucker punched by his puppet masters, whose actions are far beyond his limited understanding, and coincidently, his family foundation, just like another family foundation in India is proven guilty of accepting very considerable cheeni funds.

for both pappus, their goose has been, well and truly, cooked..... In one case, the tadka for the goose is khalistani, and in the other case, the tadka may well be Hindustani

Bon appetit

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 03 Oct 2023 15:07

Looking at the source of remittances, it is a paltry 0.6% from Canada. So, the money-flow is one way. High time that India severely restricts the forex outflow and bank loans to students going to Canada and all other western countries. There should be a list of top schools and departments where students can go for STEM disciplines. No liberal arts and other cr@p. Students going to other places should not be given any bank loans or forex. They better spend the 40-50 lakhs in India and try build small businesses.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Oct 2023 15:15

a_bharat wrote: ↑03 Oct 2023 15:07 Looking at the source of remittances, it is a paltry 0.6% from Canada. So, the money-flow is one way. High time that India severely restricts the forex outflow and bank loans to students going to Canada and all other western countries. There should be a list of top schools and departments where students can go for STEM disciplines. No liberal arts and other cr@p. Students going to other places should not be given any bank loans or forex. They better spend the 40-50 lakhs in India and try build small businesses.

There is a massive hawala channel operating between the sikhs/punjabis in kaneda and punjab.

and bharat ji, where exactly do you imagine that the massive amounts of money for all that illegal immigration out of punjab comes from....

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 03 Oct 2023 15:28

Reduce diplomats by 41 or shut down consulates: India warns Canada amid Nijjar row