Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

[Sachin]

This caste census attack by INDI alliance seems to be premediated decision at the alliance level.

The BJP can do is to use the same report to prove that the so called minority communities (RoL and RoP) also should get job benefits based on their population %-age. The Hindu OBC (Other Backward Classes) should be encouraged to question how RoL and RoP can claim benefits. Modi already has started speaking on those lines. ‘Does Congress want to take away minorities’ rights?’: PM’s caste census attack. Report states that "Addressing a rally in poll-bound Chhattisgarh's Jagdalpur, PM Modi invoked his predecessor Manmohan Singh who said that the minority had the first right to the country's resources." . OBC v/s Minorities is a card which may have to be used.

[Prem Kumar]

Many in my friends' circle think 2024 is a cakewalk for Modi. I don't think so. The suicide-gene is strong in us. After 10 years of great governance, we may decide "We have eaten healthy for 10 years. Lets eat some trash now, to balance things out". Happened with Vajpayee.

At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone their own way for the assembly election

The Bihar census is also concerning. They have not seen governance due to Nitish. So, there will be anti--incumbency. Muslims + Yadav + EBC quota might swing things in the favor of the dotty-alliance. BJP+JDU won 33/40 in 2019. Due to the heavily played caste-card, we may see an erosion of 15-20 seats there

That, plus the TN (single digit best-case scenario) makes for some grim numbers. Will BJP perform as well in WB like they did in 2019 (18/42)?

The comfort factor in both 2014 and 2019 was the 272+ that BJP by itself crossed. That seems to be at risk now, on the face of it

[RajaRudra]

At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone t

Even with the alliance, NDA would have won 4 to 5 seats. Now 0.
But historically, vote transfer from ADMK to BJP is poor. So, there may not be any BJP MP in that 5.

Worst case scenario is INDI alliance winning all 40 seats. (in 2019, it is 39). So, it's a stand still. It's a good chance for BJP to show some good % of votes. That way, ADMK will be forced to tie-up with BJP for the assembly election next. My take is, BJP should play grand disrupter role in a way that ADMK feel the pain and DMK should fear the ADMK joining the NDA again.

[SRajesh]

PKumarji
Let’s look at the alternatives
Dotty Alliance crossing 275 is a pipe dream ( unlike the Anti Indira effect post Emergency)
To equate that response to anti incumbency is a bit stretching
Now NDA chances are still good albeit a lowered number hence NaMo pitch of all to make the progress states districts included
Now the single election then makes a case for such scenarios with Presidential type campaign which NaMo will win hands down and hence the resistance and the bogeys of Federalism yada yada
Question is which party most likely to jump ships if NDA falls short ( a small but possible chance)

[Prem Kumar]

The asymmetry is like this: since most parties, including many NDA partners, are corrupt and opportunistic, the alliance becomes flaky and BJP has to constantly look over its back. We see how uncomfortable BJP is when it comes to social/Hindu topics, even when they have an overwhelming majority. Imagine when they are in a weak alliance

Plus there will be the "I want to become PM" tail-wagging-the-dog situation, which the opposition will exploit, like they did in Maharashtra. Sonia & Co will make anyone PM, if they can topple Modi. They will pull the rug from under that moron soon after

This is the price Modi pays for not castrating the C-system completely, bury them in court-cases, denude them of their money. Prthviraj-style, we keep letting the enemy live, recover and fight another day

I don't trust the Indian voter to not hit the big, red suicide button & plunge the country into a coalition mess, in exchange for freebies & caste-reservations. This is in spite of them voting Modi in 2014 & 19.

[Cyrano]

Abhi bahut overs baaki hain biradhers...

[williams]

Many in my friends' circle think 2024 is a cakewalk for Modi. I don't think so. The suicide-gene is strong in us. After 10 years of great governance, we may decide "We have eaten healthy for 10 years. Lets eat some trash now, to balance things out". Happened with Vajpayee.

At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone their own way for the assembly election

The Bihar census is also concerning. They have not seen governance due to Nitish. So, there will be anti--incumbency. Muslims + Yadav + EBC quota might swing things in the favor of the dotty-alliance. BJP+JDU won 33/40 in 2019. Due to the heavily played caste-card, we may see an erosion of 15-20 seats there

That, plus the TN (single digit best-case scenario) makes for some grim numbers. Will BJP perform as well in WB like they did in 2019 (18/42)?

The comfort factor in both 2014 and 2019 was the 272+ that BJP by itself crossed. That seems to be at risk now, on the face of it

ADMK is the same coin as DMK. Both are corrupt self-serving parties entrenched in Dravidian lefty phylosophies. BJP should stand alone as an alternative and give a sane alternative. TN has a huge educated middle class that is inspired by Annamalai. Sure BJP will lose but it will now know the real numbers to build from it.

[chetak]

‘KCR wanted to join NDA but told him no for his deeds’: PM Modi hits out at Telangana CM in Nizamabad rally

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-k ... ly-3062853

In a scathing attack on the BRS in Telangana, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday said that state Chief Minister K Chandrashekar Rao (KCR) wanted to join NDA to seek BJP's support after Hyderabad Municipal Corporation elections but he refused the offer due to “deeds” of the ruling dispensation.

Addressing a rally in Nizamabad, PM Modi told the gathering that he is going to tell a secret he has not spoken so far. “When BJP won 48 seats in the Hyderabad Municipal Corporation election, KCR needed support. Before this election, he used to welcome me at the airport, but later suddenly he stopped doing so,” the Prime Minister said.

“KCR came to meet me in Delhi…he started telling me that the country is progressing under your leadership, and said that he wanted to join NDA. He also asked me to extend support to him. I told him (KCR) that due to his deeds Modi cannot associate with him,” he added

[Atmavik]

At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone their own way for the assembly election

BJP had to back Annamalai in TN. In the long term this is a good move. I wished they did something similar in Telangana by backing Bandi Sanjay but sadly that’s not the case. They will be no 3 now in TS

[Cyrano]

I fail to be impressed by Bandi Sanjay.

[chetak]

At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone their own way for the assembly election

BJP had to back Annamalai in TN. In the long term this is a good move. I wished they did something similar in Telangana by backing Bandi Sanjay but sadly that’s not the case. They will be no 3 now in TS

Atmavik ji,


The problem for the ADMK is not the alliance but specifically Annamalai

Annamalai is the same caste (the powerful Kongu Vellalar Gounder community) as some the ADMK bigwigs and they do not want him around because of his popularity and his honest image

Annamalai has become too popular, too powerful, and risen too fast in TN politics for the ADMK to "manage" him. Besides, Annamalai has direct access to IB files at the center. Almost all these files go back to the LTTE and eelam war days

Also, Annamalai is aware of all the dirty inner secrets of each and every dravidian politico and that leaves them all very scared, not knowing what may come out when

The ADMK bigwigs wanted Annamalai to be their servant, one that they could use to run their errands in the BJP HQ in dilli but soon discovered that Annamalai was never going to be that servant.

They imagine(and insist) that they are the senior partners and Modi and the BJP should defer to them on every single issue

The DMK has filed corruption cases against the ADMK bigwigs to preempt the center from filing more cases against the DMK dynastic family. The ADMK wanted the Modi govt to stop the DMK from filing such cases against them but they were told in no uncertain terms that "the law will take its course".

Finally, the threat that the ADMK held out against the BJP that either totally remove annamalai from politics or we will break the alliance came to naught, because the BJP called their bluff and AS told them to go hop. The ADMK badly wanted to keep the alliance but get Annamalai out or clip his wings big-time. But instead, harsh reality was forcefully rammed up their nether regions by the BJP. Annamalai may just end up publicly releasing yet another edition of his scam files, the first two of which shook the dravidiya politicos very badly....

The break up was preplanned by the BJP. This was one of the planned outcomes of Annamalai's padayatra and it worked

Luckily, for them, the ADMK was the one that did the dirty and "forced" the break up

The ADMK are now up the creek without a paddle, and the desperate congis are looking to align with them because stalin has refused to give the congis more than just a couple of seats for the 2024 parliamentary elections

The BJP is actually sitting pretty because it has no expectations from TN for victory in 2024 parliamentary seats and if any seats do come, it will be a bonus for the BJP and indications are that some seats will surely come. The ADMK is hell bent on keeping the BJP away from those seats.

And most importantly, the DMK has oodles of money, and the ADMK is very low on funds, so they will be back just before 2024 to wrangle money from the BJP and also to see how many seats they can talk the BJP into leaving for them. Many ambitious or panicked ADMK "leaders" may well jump ship


Here are some of the Kongu Vellalar Gounder community leaders

Essentially, this is where the crux of the ADMK's problems lie

1. Eddapadi.K.Palaniswami - Leader of Opposition - ADMK

2. V.Senthil Balaji - Minister of Electricity & Prohibition and Excise

3. R.Sakkarapani - Minister for Food and Civil Supplies

4. S.Muthusamy - Minister for Housing and Urban Development

5. M.P.Saminathan- Minister for Information & Publicity

6. Annamalai K EX. IPS -Tamilnadu BJP President

[ramana]

This caste census attack by INDI alliance seems to be premediated decision at the alliance level.

The BJP can do is to use the same report to prove that the so called minority communities (RoL and RoP) also should get job benefits based on their population %-age. The Hindu OBC (Other Backward Classes) should be encouraged to question how RoL and RoP can claim benefits. Modi already has started speaking on those lines. ‘Does Congress want to take away minorities’ rights?’: PM’s caste census attack. Report states that "Addressing a rally in poll-bound Chhattisgarh's Jagdalpur, PM Modi invoked his predecessor Manmohan Singh who said that the minority had the first right to the country's resources." . OBC v/s Minorities is a card which may have to be used.

That's playing into the Opposition's cards. The best strategy is to make the opposition take a stand. right now they have different contradictory messages in North, South North East, and West.

[ramana]

1) Many in my friends' circle think 2024 is a cakewalk for Modi. I don't think so. The suicide-gene is strong in us. After 10 years of great governance, we may decide "We have eaten healthy for 10 years. Lets eat some trash now, to balance things out". Happened with Vajpayee.

2) At a more tactical level, I dont think the ADMK-BJP split was a good idea. Annamali is overplaying his hand and the high command is allowing it. Even if there is a post-poll alliance, they will still stand against each other in many constituencies and split the Hindu vote. A better strategy would have been to let Annamalai play 2nd fiddle for 1 more year, let ADMK-BJP hammer DMK on Sanatana Dharma and consolidate the Hindu vote. Then, they could have gone their own way for the assembly election

3)The Bihar census is also concerning. They have not seen governance due to Nitish. So, there will be anti--incumbency. Muslims + Yadav + EBC quota might swing things in the favor of the dotty-alliance. BJP+JDU won 33/40 in 2019. Due to the heavily played caste-card, we may see an erosion of 15-20 seats there

That, plus the TN (single digit best-case scenario) makes for some grim numbers. Will BJP perform as well in WB like they did in 2019 (18/42)?

4) The comfort factor in both 2014 and 2019 was the 272+ that BJP by itself crossed. That seems to be at risk now, on the face of it

1) The BJP doesn't think so. It is the pundits and chatterati that think so. So far BJP had to fight three battles and won: Manipur Kuki riots, TN DMK attack on Sanathan Dharma, and Trudeau disrupting G-20 with the Khalistani card.
2) ADMK was not a good-faith ally. They want BJP support but not give. They disagreed with seat sharing and were unaware of BJP's popularity due to Annamalai's appeal among TV voters. KTA has broken the caste constraints in TN. Its better to part ways as friends than enemies.
3) Bihar census was a survey and not a census. By law, only Centre can conduct the census in a structured manner. SC will soon rule on this. Also, RJD added Muslims to OBC and is trying to get a reservation by backdoor. The joke is for 40 years Lalu Yadav coterie ruled the roost in Bihar and non-Yadavs have seen what development they get from these klepto-politicians.
4) No poll even by the most biased observer thinks that BJP will not get the majority on their own.

Fear is good but not paralysis.

[krithivas]

The Bihar "caste census" release will create significant noise, division, demands and diversion for the entire nation. The illogical demand for proportionate representation will derail and destroy the growth trajectory. A faint hope though, Letting the game play out (go with the nationwide census) rather than to allow pressure to build (by not allowing the census), It may just fizzle out?

[chetak]

The Bihar "caste census" release will create significant noise, division, demands and diversion for the entire nation. The illogical demand for proportionate representation will derail and destroy the growth trajectory. A faint hope though, Letting the game play out (go with the nationwide census) rather than to allow pressure to build (by not allowing the census), It may just fizzle out?

shriman krithivas,


The Bihar "caste census" is only a survey.

Only the center has the power to do a census, a mere state has no authority to do so.

[krithivas]

^^^ I'm no expert a statement to which the rest of my family vehemently concurs

Question - Does the common man's perception make that distinction? Survey vs. Census.

The other question was, Can you push the genie back into the bottle? And my point was, Just let it out and it may do no harm? Else, It is going to create a lot of noise and distractions etc.

The BIF is working overtime ahead of 2024.

[vijayk]

people don't even bother. Many folks who are part of OBC/EBC don't even think in these terms. I am OBC/EBC/FC.

Those days are gone.

[vijayk]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1709 ... 34667.html
Today Delhi Police raided cartel of News Click and a few other people like Urmilesh, Prabir, Abhisar Sharma, and Teesta Setalvad

The ecosystem will try to prove them innocent but let me show you complete details of how they are associated with CIA and China

[Atmavik]

people don't even bother. Many folks who are part of OBC/EBC don't even think in these terms. I am OBC/EBC/FC.

Those days are gone.

I hope so , BJP is also pretty good at caste arithmetic. A leader like Namo and a booming economy can overcome this syndrome. I am hopeful for 2024

[ramana]

ED raids AAP MP Sanjay Singh for Delhi Excise policy.
Fallout of Dinesh Arora turning approver.
Most likely Sisodia will turn approver soon.

[Sachin]

Most likely Sisodia will turn approver soon.

If my understanding is right, Shri. Shishodia 2 i/c of Kejri has been inside Tihar CP for nearly 9 months now. No bail, or no trials. He has been just sitting inside his cell in Tihar. For a politician this is a unique feat. Even Kejri seems to have given up on his side kick.

[nandakumar]

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/suprem ... 127688.cms
Yesterday's news report in Times of India.

[chetak]

I fail to be impressed by Bandi Sanjay.

Cyrano ji,

This guy is the best that the BJP currently have in TS

The BJP is in grave error by sacrificing him at the altar of political expediency

They have done so as part of their interminable wheelings and dealings in TS, a party that was once renowned for its straight shooting is now doing what all the other political parties do

The guy who has been chosen to replace him is as effective as a wet cat caught in a torrential downpour......

It seems that Bandi Sanjay is "too junior to lead the state BJP" in TS, in spite of the very good results that he has already produced and local folks say that he was just warming up and had not yet hit his stride. In reality, the actual reasons for his sidelining may well lie elsewhere......

Expectedly, the BJP cadres are quite upset at Bandi Sanjay's demotion... He had galvanized them when he was in charge

Net net, the BJP has dropped from it's no:2 position where Bandi Sanjay had brought it by his hard work, replaced by the congis who moved up from no:3.

Many outside leaders who wanted to join the BJP have now gone and joined the congis instead.

The cancer of party infighting has now also caught up with the BJP

[vijayk]

Defintely Bandi Sanjay removal was a mess up. There were a lot of issues with Bandi ... His son became an issue but Bandi was very strong against KCR even though he uses very unsophisticated language. Most folks from TG used to compare KTR and Bandi. BJP cared too much on these complaints. Now BJP is totally a divided house. Too sad. It would be a disaster if I.N.D.I alliance picks up major chunk here.

[hanumadu]

G Kishan Reddy's profile has been increased with ministries in Modi's second term. He has been moved to parliament from assembly. After GKR being given TS BJP presidentship again, I am thinking this was always the plan. It's unlikely Velmas will vote for BJP as long as BRS is there. At least get the Reddy votes and money bags, I guess.

[chetak]

Defintely Bandi Sanjay removal was a mess up. There were a lot of issues with Bandi ... His son became an issue but Bandi was very strong against KCR even though he uses very unsophisticated language. Most folks from TG used to compare KTR and Bandi. BJP cared too much on these complaints. Now BJP is totally a divided house. Too sad. It would be a disaster if I.N.D.I alliance picks up major chunk here.

vijay ji,


Why has k@lv@kunt!@ k@v!th@ not been arrested yet, what are they waiting for .......all investigations have been completed.....vital witnesses have turned approvers........and all escape routes have been blocked...

or has some deal already been brokered that included the removal of Bandi Sanjay

these are the two questions that the local cadres are asking their bosses

[vijayk]

I think Modi/Shah took time ot collect all the evidence and attacked NewsClick
Sanjay Singh of AAP was arrested
Ranabir kapoor has been called for investigation into 90 cr Money laundering

I think several lakhs of crores is being siphoned into India by Soros, China to buy of 2024 election and media

[vijayk]

Defintely Bandi Sanjay removal was a mess up. There were a lot of issues with Bandi ... His son became an issue but Bandi was very strong against KCR even though he uses very unsophisticated language. Most folks from TG used to compare KTR and Bandi. BJP cared too much on these complaints. Now BJP is totally a divided house. Too sad. It would be a disaster if I.N.D.I alliance picks up major chunk here.

vijay ji,


Why has k@lv@kunt!@ k@v!th@ not been arrested yet, what are they waiting for .......all investigations have been completed.....vital witnesses have turned approvers........and all escape routes have been blocked...

or has some deal already been brokered that included the removal of Bandi Sanjay

these are the two questions that the local cadres are asking their bosses

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/ ... -case.html

BRS MLC Kalvakuntla Kavitha got temporary relief on Friday in Supreme Court in the Delhi liquor scam case, with the court directing the Enforcement Directorate to not take any coercive steps against her, including issuing summons, till September 26.

The ED on Thursday had asked Kavitha to appear for questioning. Though she had attended three questioning sessions before the ED, this is the first time she would have faced questioning after some accused had turned approver.

On Friday, the petition filed by Kavitha in March challenging the ED summons came up for hearing before the division bench of Justice Sanjay Kishan Kaul and Justice Sudhanshu Dhulia. This petition was tagged with the one filed by Nalini Chidambaram, wife of former Union minister P. Chidambaram, who had requested the Supreme Court to quash the ED summons against her in the Saradha Chit Fund scam case.

https://thesouthfirst.com/telangana/del ... -tells-ed/
Delhi liquor scam: Kavitha gets a breather till 20 November; don’t call her, SC tells ED

“In the meantime, don’t call her, we have to hear the matter,” Justice Kaul told Additional Solicitor General (ASG) SV Raju, appearing for the ED.

As Raju tried to shift from the position he had stated in the course of the hearing, Justice Kaul said: “We have heard it in the court.”

Raju assured the bench that Kavitha would not be called for questioning till 20 November.

Posting the matter for hearing on 20 November, the bench said that, before that, a special bench comprising Justices Kaul, AS Bopanna, and Bela MN Trivedi would decide two causes arising from the 27 July, 2022, judgement, which upheld the amended stringent provisions of the PMLA.

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/vinod_sharma/status ... 5384627705

Vinod Sharma
@vinod_sharma
The project needs participation of India, to make it viable. That is why China signed a secret pact with Sonia-Rahul. They had allegedly agreed to join it, effectively ceding Indian territory under occupation of Pak, through which it was built.

Modi ruined their plans.

I

Indian Defence News
@defence_news
·
27m
China spurns new Belt and Road projects for Pakistan citing ‘political instability’: Report
https://defencenews.in/2023/10/china-sp ... ty-report/

we need to publish that china MoU ...

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/MumbaichaDon/status ... 4825597368

*WHAT DOES REMAND NOTE AGAINST NEWSCLICK FOUNDER PRABIR PURKAYASTHA SAY?*

Special Cell said that Purkayastha & “others" received funds to create UNREST in Bharat.

Prabir Purkayastha, Neville Roy Singham & some other Chinese employees of Neville Roy Singham-owned Shanghai-based Company by the name of StarStream have exchanged mails which expose their intent to show KASHMIR & ARUNACHAL PRADESH as NOT PART of BHARAT.

These persons are part of conspiracy to peddle a narrative, both globally & domestically, that KASHMIR & ARUNACHAL Pradesh are DISPUTED TERRITORIES.

Remand notes states that their attempt to tinker with the northern borders of Bharat and to show Kashmir & Arunachal Pradesh as not parts of Bharat in maps amount to an act intended towards UNDERMINING the UNITY and TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY of Bharat.

Prabir Purkayastha conspired with a group namely People’s Alliance for Democracy and Secularism (PADS) to SABOTAGE the ELECTORAL PROCESS during 2019 General Elections.

Cell further says that PADS was used to peddle false narratives through PAID NEWS in lieu of crores of Rupees of illegally routed foreign funds as part of conspiracy.

[vijayk]

very critical with this chinese newsclick


https://twitter.com/thehawkeyex/status/ ... 6177597697

The Hawk Eye @thehawkeyex
This is not DNA RNA bio structure but the network of directors of Digipub (the left media cartel).

At level-1, the group has a directorship of 47 other cos. These cos may have more directors, they may have more cos & so on.

Directorship in multiple co is not illegal but imagine from the perspective of analysing a financial scam here! Siphoning off money from one to another and.. Keeping money trail.. and always updating accounts. Its a hell of a job for agencies.

https://twitter.com/Sanju_Verma_/status ... 2034284993
Do you know who is Chairperson of #DIGIPUB?Dhanya Rajendran

Do you know who is Vice Chairperson of DIGIPUB?#PrabirPurkayastha

Do you know founding members of DIGIPUB? Scroll, #AltNews, Cobrapost,Newslaundry, #NewsClick,The Wire&few mor

check the video


https://twitter.com/Sanju_Verma_/status ... 8262667265

[Cyrano]

[Sumeet]

people don't even bother. Many folks who are part of OBC/EBC don't even think in these terms. I am OBC/EBC/FC.

Those days are gone.

That is the main issue. Congress and all these dynasty owned parties want Indians to think in these terms mainly/only.

We have a very young population most of which growing up in last 3 decades experienced India climbing up economically, digitally, cultural & military assertion (despite some set backs during UPA1/2) have a non casteist outlook, hunger for success -- many positive qualities which lays foundations for progressive and integrated society poised for persistent strong growth. This is anathema to dynast types and BIFs. Hence they want to corrupt this new population in the age group 20-35 so that life long dividends can be reaped by various stake holders.

Let's assume X= OBC

They want people to think:

• As X what one couldn't get just because they are X
  As an X what can I do for those who are also X
  If something good happens (new cricket team annouced or team of scientists sending next space mission etc) what is X's share
  Continuing from last point: whatever it is, is it justifiable if not back to point 1

You can substitute X with your favorite category. But all categories will not be favored equally, for example if X = Brahmins or Upper Castes come up with reasons like milleniums of suppression etc and create a feeling of perpetual guilt in them to reconcile with whatever current fate has been decided for them by dynasts and BIF.

These categories will be new quiet hindus who need to conform to a certain preset behavior and get a pat on their back as long as they comply. Other categories given where they stand in critical caste scale are allowed to amplify their grievance etc to commensurate levels only to be outdone by folks identifying under certain religious denominations.

[chetak]

forget the enormous sense of entitlement, just imagine how drunk on power this guy was......

@ndtv

#BookExcerpt | "Rahul Gandhi offered me HRD Minister's job in 2009": Nandan Nilekani - by
@soniandtv

https://ndtv.com/book-excerpts/rahul-ga ... ni-2047900

This Article is From Jun 04, 2019

Only PM Modi, Sonia Gandhi Questioned This About Aadhaar: Nandan Nilekani


S Jaishankar may be the first lateral entry straight into the post of cabinet minister but Nandan Nilekani, 10 years ago, could have been the first - when Rahul Gandhi called him to offer him the position of Human Resource Development Minister. However, a last-minute hitch and then a political rethink by Sonia Gandhi and then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh led to the offer being taken back just as Nandan Nilekani was readying to fly to Delhi. Read excerpts below.

As we meet in his glass-walled conference room, the pleasant weather of Bengaluru seems a world removed from the heat and fury generated by the Aadhaar controversy. Nandan has been accused of creating a surveillance Frankenstein by anti-Aadhaar activists. The Supreme Court has, however, decisively ruled on this and today in just under a decade, Nandan has had the enormous satisfaction of seeing his 'Mission Accomplished'-one that began under one government and was completed under a government completely ideologically opposite to its predecessor. This is a journey which began with one phone call. 'In 2009, I received a call from Rahul Gandhi,' Nandan begins. 'He called me on the day of the results, when the Congress came back with more seats.' This was an unexpected second-term victory for the UPA government, with the Congress winning 206 seats. 'He asked me if I'd be interested in being the human resource development [HRD] minister of India? "We want somebody from another planet." I spoke to my colleagues at Infosys, and they all responded, "Theek hai yaar." So I told him that I was ready to do it. On the day of the swearing-in of the new Cabinet, I was in Bengaluru. Now I didn't know these "fundas", that in politics, you have to hang around in Delhi and wait for your name to be announced. At 11 a.m. I received a call asking if I was in Delhi.

I mean, I'm an IT fellow, so I said no, I was in Bengaluru. They asked if I could arrive by 5 p.m. for the swearing-in and I told them that I didn't have a private jet. I then scrambled to see if I could find a plane to get to Delhi. Funnily enough, S.M. Krishna, who had been selected for the post of the minister of external affairs, was heading to Delhi. He too was in Bangalore but since his house was much closer to the airport, he managed to make it. In the midst of me trying to arrange a plane,' Nandan continues, 'Rahul Gandhi called again and said, "Sorry, it's not on." Later I realized that Mrs Gandhi probably felt I was a corporate type who wouldn't understand the poor and their problems. Dr Manmohan Singh, I think, felt I was a technocrat, not a politician and the HRD ministry would be too political for me to handle. It was a prime job-they weren't going to give it to some upstart from Bengaluru.' Nandan laughs. 'So, it was Rahul's idea, but they turned it down. I went back to my usual work.'

In the book, Nandan Nilekani talks also of how the Aadhaar plan evolved and how he had to convince people around the country including Narendra Modi.

"On his persuasion tour, Nandan recalls paying a visit to Arun Jaitley and Sushma Swaraj, the main opposition leaders of the BJP, but his biggest challenge was the then Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, who, in a twist of fate, would one day become the biggest advocate of Aadhaar. Nandan recalls, 'Even though everything was ready to go in Gujarat, the chief minister Mr Modi had not approved the rollout. Then I received a message to go and meet him and so I went to Gujarat. I thought, "I have to make this project successful, I can meet anyone",' he says.

The scheduled half-hour meeting went on for one and a half hours, and then the chief minister took pictures with Nandan Nilekani, which he later circulated.

'I guess they wanted to show people that I had gone to meet him. So, I sat there with him and he told me his life history-his take on 2002, his beginnings as a chai-wallah...everything. As soon as I left, he approved the project.'

'Did you ever feel frustrated that you had got caught in the middle of a political game?' I ask.'This is the game. Reforms in India don't happen in a linear fashion. It is a two-step-forward-one-step-backward process. There are periods of high activity and those of complete inaction, but that is true of everything. That's the nature of politics. When there's a window of high activity, you get as much done as possible. When it goes into inaction, then you bide your time. Something will happen: the minister or bureaucrat will change. If you're playing the long game, you can deal with these kinds of things.' To keep the UIDAI scheme out of politics, Nandan and his team also chose a name that was non-political. 'I didn't want some XYZ Yojana, so we carefully did a lot of research and found "Aadhaar", which means foundation; your identity is the foundation.'

More importantly, the word 'Aadhaar' worked in almost all Indian languages. But in attempting to escape politicization, Nandan explains how even the letter became political.

[krithivas]

Another wet dream from Al Jazeera (Hope I spelled it right)
How a landmark caste census survey in India threatens Modi’s grip on power
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... p-on-power

[krithivas]

Another wet dream from Al Jazeera (Hope I spelled it right)
How a landmark caste census survey in India threatens Modi’s grip on power

India is one of the most unequal countries in the world with the bulk of the resources and jobs controlled by the privileged castes.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023 ... p-on-power

[chetak]

AAP MP Sanjay Singh arrested by ED on Wednesday for his involvement in Delhi liquor scam case.


spread eagled

[chetak]

vijay ji,


Why has k@lv@kunt!@ k@v!th@ not been arrested yet, what are they waiting for .......all investigations have been completed.....vital witnesses have turned approvers........and all escape routes have been blocked...

or has some deal already been brokered that included the removal of Bandi Sanjay

these are the two questions that the local cadres are asking their bosses

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/ ... -case.html

BRS MLC Kalvakuntla Kavitha got temporary relief on Friday in Supreme Court in the Delhi liquor scam case, with the court directing the Enforcement Directorate to not take any coercive steps against her, including issuing summons, till September 26.

The ED on Thursday had asked Kavitha to appear for questioning. Though she had attended three questioning sessions before the ED, this is the first time she would have faced questioning after some accused had turned approver.

On Friday, the petition filed by Kavitha in March challenging the ED summons came up for hearing before the division bench of Justice Sanjay Kishan Kaul and Justice Sudhanshu Dhulia. This petition was tagged with the one filed by Nalini Chidambaram, wife of former Union minister P. Chidambaram, who had requested the Supreme Court to quash the ED summons against her in the Saradha Chit Fund scam case.

https://thesouthfirst.com/telangana/del ... -tells-ed/
Delhi liquor scam: Kavitha gets a breather till 20 November; don’t call her, SC tells ED

“In the meantime, don’t call her, we have to hear the matter,” Justice Kaul told Additional Solicitor General (ASG) SV Raju, appearing for the ED.

As Raju tried to shift from the position he had stated in the course of the hearing, Justice Kaul said: “We have heard it in the court.”

Raju assured the bench that Kavitha would not be called for questioning till 20 November.

Posting the matter for hearing on 20 November, the bench said that, before that, a special bench comprising Justices Kaul, AS Bopanna, and Bela MN Trivedi would decide two causes arising from the 27 July, 2022, judgement, which upheld the amended stringent provisions of the PMLA.

Thanks for the inputs vijay ji.


apologies for late acknowledgement.

[ramana]

I fail to be impressed by Bandi Sanjay.

What do you expect of him?

[Cyrano]

Something on the lines of what Annamalai is doing, adapted to TS context