Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

[williams]

So looks like the strategy to divide the Hindu vote is on the lines of caste since religion is not doing the trick anymore. When will they ever think about competing with Modi on better ideas of governance and development?

[vijayk]

Governance and Development ... they know they never did it but won for 65 years ... why change that now?

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/Aabha108/status/1709960743267762405

Gunter Fehlinger is advising Khalistanis

check. X ... @GunterFehlinger

https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger

Looks like Pappu is directly working on Khalistan

[SRajesh]

No wonder Pappuji was covering his tracks and backside by doing seva at Golden Temple
Wonder who else and what other stuff we should expect prior to 2024 elections
Probably all including Unkil and Emperor have joined hands to get rid of NaMo
Is pliant India an peace offering to Xi by the Deep State
What for???
So that everyone can stick their snout in the trough for collective feelings
Congi-CCP MOU exposure is imperative now
What is dispensation waiting for??electios to be announced?? so that the Dotty Alliance are fully immersed in quicksand and no other life line

[williams]

No wonder Pappuji was covering his tracks and backside by doing seva at Golden Temple
Wonder who else and what other stuff we should expect prior to 2024 elections
Probably all including Unkil and Emperor have joined hands to get rid of NaMo
Is pliant India an peace offering to Xi by the Deep State
What for???
So that everyone can stick their snout in the trough for collective feelings
Congi-CCP MOU exposure is imperative now
What is dispensation waiting for??electios to be announced?? so that the Dotty Alliance are fully immersed in quicksand and no other life line

Yes more is going to come. They are going to keep harping about democracy, freedom of expression, tolerating dissent etc, etc. What they don't understand is the more such noise they make, the more aggressively they will be dealt with and the more nationalistic feeling it is going to evoke.

[venkat_kv]

Defintely Bandi Sanjay removal was a mess up. There were a lot of issues with Bandi ... His son became an issue but Bandi was very strong against KCR even though he uses very unsophisticated language. Most folks from TG used to compare KTR and Bandi. BJP cared too much on these complaints. Now BJP is totally a divided house. Too sad. It would be a disaster if I.N.D.I alliance picks up major chunk here.

vijay ji,


Why has k@lv@kunt!@ k@v!th@ not been arrested yet, what are they waiting for .......all investigations have been completed.....vital witnesses have turned approvers........and all escape routes have been blocked...

or has some deal already been brokered that included the removal of Bandi Sanjay

these are the two questions that the local cadres are asking their bosses

Chetak Saar,
Apart from the post of vijayK saar, that showed how K. Kavita approached the SC to delay ED questioning, an analyst said the Kavita would not be arrested (for two major reasons)
1. Her arrest would bring sympathy and groundswell support to KCR as his children are being targeted by Delhi with all the associated pejoratives thrown in for the Central govt.
2. Even if she was arrested, she would not be held for long as she was "bribe giver" and not a taker and deciding the liquor policy, So she will get bail which will again tie into the first point. timing is often quoted by BJP for most of its actions.

Besides all this, Kavitha spent all her time dodging the officials who came to investigate her, she had some trip one time, another time she had broken leg, unwell for another time and so on and so on while filing various court motions to prevent her name and arrest in the case.
Case in point is in one of the questioning she showed an assortment of cell phones when it was reported that she along with Manish Sisodia had destroyed quite a few cell phones. none of the media asked her if they are real phones or not, but reams and reams of discussions were carried out with gas bag analysts trying to defend her or say she was guilty and ultimately in both cases balming the Central govt over targeting or inaction.

The TRS/BRS has control over the narrative with the media only highlighting the question " why hasn't she been arrested"?
If the ED dragged Kavita and arreested her the TRS/BRS would only do what Mamata and TMC do in Bengal regularly and the media wouldn't bat an eyelid.

The bane of the telugu speaking states is the media landscape that afflicts it. People don't even have facts to first argue when pointed out they will call everyone as bhakts or whats app forwards or say Modi should have arrested (as though its the PM personally going around putting people behind bars).
None know how what ED does or build its cases. the usual arguments of Central govt holding all institutions under it to settle scores is bandied about all the time.

[venkat_kv]

Something on the lines of what Annamalai is doing, adapted to TS context

Cyrano ji,
Quoting Suresh Kochattil who is kind of pro-BJP, Bandi Sanjay did a lot, but what he essentially didn't do, was what sunk him to an extent.
Bandi Sanjay is a fighter and will get down in the streets to match muscle for muscle or word for word with TRS. But he has not used any new comers from other parties to extend the reach of BJP.
Case in point was Etala Rajender who was the finance minister of TRS govt and one of the founding members of the party (one of the two seats that they won since its inception was Etala's seat). He would know the financial and muscle bags of the TRS, but apparently he was never asked for his inputs on any matter. In hindsight BJP should have delegated this to atleast another party member with Bandi Sanjay doing his padayatra.
Another thing that sets him apart from what Annamalai is doing is not just padayatra, but Annamalai speaks with lots of numbers at his disposal (on Central schemes and how it can help people and how TN state govt is fooling people). I don't know tamil and have not followed Annamalai's speeches to see if this is the truth, but that is the analysis from Suresh Kochattil.

Bandi Sanjay has done padayatra, but his yatra is mostly criticisms of the TRS/BRS govt which will be forgotten when election comes as TRS is master of freebies (anyone remember the dalit bandhu scheme where KCR promised every dalit family will get 10lakhs in their account with some conditions attached ofcourse), so much so that people in Telangana want elections as parties come and woo voters and pay a lot during the campaign time and this was spoken quite openly in certain bypoll elections in Telangana.

Bandi Sanjay has done all the hard things with a few things that are missing to take the BJP to next level (I guess this can be said about every leader if you were to take a fine tooth comb to search for faults). But this BRS/TRS and BJP being one and the same is being run from a few handles (probably pro congress ones) with the one trump card question like - why is kavitha not arrested or why was Bandi Sanjay changed now? forgetting that it was KCR and KTR have tried propping congress since Etala Rajender resignation from the party.

[ramana]

Something on the lines of what Annamalai is doing, adapted to TS context

This reminds me of the aunt and uncle joke that Shiv used to say.

TG and TN are very different sets of political environments.
In TG it's one family (KCR) and corruption.
In TN it is one family (Stalin) with corruption surrounded by an ideology(EVR).
The tactics have to be different.
TG does not need an Annmalai.

[ramana]

venkat_KV, Bandi Sanjay took BJP from 3->25+.
BJP needs more adherents to cross the finish line.
As I said its a relay race.
IN TN the early generation BJP leaders (Tamilsai, H. Raja et al) kept the BJP presence alive till Annamalai arrived on the scene.

BTW what do you make of K.V. Reddy's (ex-Munugode MLA) statement?

[la.khan]

Defintely Bandi Sanjay removal was a mess up. There were a lot of issues with Bandi ... His son became an issue but Bandi was very strong against KCR even though he uses very unsophisticated language. Most folks from TG used to compare KTR and Bandi. BJP cared too much on these complaints. Now BJP is totally a divided house. Too sad. It would be a disaster if I.N.D.I alliance picks up major chunk here.

vijay ji,

Why has k@lv@kunt!@ k@v!th@ not been arrested yet, what are they waiting for .......all investigations have been completed.....vital witnesses have turned approvers........and all escape routes have been blocked...

or has some deal already been brokered that included the removal of Bandi Sanjay

these are the two questions that the local cadres are asking their bosses

The day Sanjay Bandi was moved out of TS BJP, I knew that it was part of a deal between BJP HQ & BRS leadership. Ever since then, TS BJP has lost steam in TS. Sanjay Bandi is no Annamalai but that is the best TS BJP has now.

I don't know the details of the deal but I hope it was worth it

[bala]

I heard in TN arch rivals AIDMK and DMK are banding together to take on BJP. This is getting interesting. Pappu Uday's comment against Sanatan Dharma is clinching the issue. Annamalai has made Sanatan Dharma his election theme.

[williams]

I heard in TN arch rivals AIDMK and DMK are banding together to take on BJP. This is getting interesting. Pappu Uday's comment against Sanatan Dharma is clinching the issue. Annamalai has made Sanatan Dharma his election theme.

First, ADMK came out of DMK, stating they were for the original Dravidian movement. DMK dynasty had a successor in Stalin. ADMK did not have a successor after Jayalalitha. So, ADMK has no charismatic leadership that can take on DMK. That means there is only one party, and ADMK has no future or popular support. Their merging together means nothing. TN people do not have a viable alternative. This is an opportunity for the BJP to provide that corruption-free alternative IMO.

[chetak]

I heard in TN arch rivals AIDMK and DMK are banding together to take on BJP. This is getting interesting. Pappu Uday's comment against Sanatan Dharma is clinching the issue. Annamalai has made Sanatan Dharma his election theme.

bala saar,


This can only happen via the padres because they have the most to lose. The abrahamics are cossetted and sheltered while temple wealth and assets are openly plundered. Lets wait and see how things pan out. The conversion mafia in TN needs one of the two dravidiya parties in power

The congis are rome centric whereas these dravidiyas are CoE/canterbury centric, and that, by itself, is a big divide

Currently Annamalai is after vote share and if he garners a critical mass, things may start to snowball from there. The dravidiyas have thus far successfully milked both narratives, leveraging their strength in assembly seats, as well as, in parliamentary seats for distinctly different purposes to protect their networks of plunder. Remember how the dravidiyas operated during the raincoat govt led by the mafia when all the scams took place

Earlier the existentialist threat was dilli based, far away and easily countered, but now they are up against a tangible threat that has manifested right in their very heartland.

This Annamalai is a very credible face, speaking multiple languages that includes hindi, educated, experienced, and highly articulate, aggressive, and politically savvy. In this caste crazy society in TN, he represents one of the most dominant groupings.

He scares the padres because they are well aware that he will not submit to them, nor will he push their agenda.........

The route that he has adopted is the SM, adroitly bypassing the brick and mortar legacy media, cable networks and movie based narrative building that was the bane of TN politics till now

The crowds at his padayatra have literally set the Sanatana cat among the dravidiya pigeons

For the BJP, seats are a secondary objective, for them vote share is the primary objective and seats will be a bonus. They hope to build further from a good vote share

They will not be able to form the govt his time around but as no:2, they can offer a credible and viable option as the opposition and moreover, they may be able to somewhat apply brakes on the open plunder

[bala]

This can only happen via the padres because they have the most to lose.

Chetak Saar,

Annamalai, is IPS and quite eloquent. He needs the endorsement of Tamil Movie Thalaivar Rajnikanth Shivaji Rao Gaikwad, who himself is very devout. Annamalai has to garner such endorsements in TN. Another person of stature is Movie Star Sivakumar who can recite the Mahabharata in his sleep. If a majority of people from the movie industry side with Annamalai then he has effectively broken the stranglehold of the dravidian parties.

You bring up the padres. Pappu Udaynidhi has converted though he claims atheist. The Gregorian calendar starts from 0 apparently when Jesus Christ was born, but there is no proof that a physical person like this existed. Up until 325 AD Nicean council, no one heard about Jesus Christ. Jesus was fashioned after a person called Apollonius of Tyana. Furthermore the bible has a combination of stars that occurred at birth but VedVeer Arya points out that the date for such an occurence is 660 BC not 0 AD. Up until 325 AD the Romans were followers of Sanatan Dharma, which was later demonized by the Catholic Church. Vatican was a Vatika (place of worship) and the vaults of vatican house a shiva lingam. There is a church on the beaches of Chennai called Santhome Church, a reference to St Thomas. But the Pope sometime back came to India and declared there was no such person called St. Thomas who visited India. This church was created by the portuguese who occupied Chennai prior to the Britshits. At the church location was a Shiva Lingam (kabaleeshwar, same name kabha of Mecca!) which was hurriedly moved to Mylapore, Chennai. Mylapore has the Kabaleeshwar Shiva temple which is quite huge and well attended. Mylapore mami name came from those who attend the temple. Annamalai can highlight this piece of history.

[chetak]

This is how the new India under Modi works



Stop everything you are doing and please watch this!

These 4 minutes of your time will tell you how New India is working.

Thank you @AshwiniVaishnaw ji



WATCH VIDEO

[fanne]

What is remarkable is, there is no fully capital company who will exploit you to death. There is a great deal of govt companies participating and performing. Just like DRDO and DPSU, they have kept the ball rolling and private sector is making that ball go faster and bigger. It also keeps check on private companies that may fleece the govt (look at west - there biggest enemy are perhaps these arm companies) and no one has incentive to start war so that they can benefit from unwanted death and destruction (Ukraine anyone)

[vijayk]

I hope this is just a warning shot. I hope this becomes more and more prominent as the year goes by with DRIP DRIP DRIP Technology



Every white Wapo/NYT journalist funded by Soros is capping all over this ... antisemitic blah blah

[vijayk]

[Sachin]

He needs the endorsement of Tamil Movie Thalaivar Rajnikanth Shivaji Rao Gaikwad, who himself is very devout.

I think that will never happen. Rajanikanth what ever he does in the movie, still has the old BMTC bus conductor mind-set and will run away from police officials (Annamalai is a police man). Rajanikanth does not have the guts or wherewithal to get into politics because he knows that the Dravidiyans have n number of charges which can be used against him. He is very risk averse and will not make any noise unless he decides to leave Chennai, movie-dom and return to Bangalore as a common man.

[chetak]

long standing sickness as a result of ingrained separatist mentality (under the BIF manufactured guise of "federalism").

this ("jitni abadi utna haq") nonsense is not only against the constitution, but it also pushes the old jihadi demand of separate electorates, albeit in a newer and disguised avatar

“A day will come when Congressites will wear a 'janeu' (a sacred thread Brahmins wear) over their coats.” -- Savarkar, 1959.

So, as a twice born, over the coat janeu wearing, self declared cashmeri brahmin of the dattatreya gotra, exactly whom will he represent, and what is their abadi, and precisely how will he wind up heading the dotty coalition based on the haq derived from his abadi percentages

[vijayk]

Burkha Dutt went to Washington Press club and was felicitated as greatest journalist from India.

She told them there is a muslim genocide going on India.

They are going to every corner ... Jihadis and their collaborators spreading venom against India, Hindus, BJP/RSS, Modi ... its 24x7x365 war and hate mongering ...

Everything is weaponized against us ...

They are creating a narrative to create justification for Gaza kind of operation in India

[ramana]

Burkha Dutt went to Washington Press club and felicitated as greatest journalist from India.

She told them there is a muslim genocide going on India.

They are going to every corner ... Jihadis and their collaborators spreading venom against India, Hindus, BJP/RSS, Modi ... its 24x7x365 war and hate mongering ...

Everything is weaponized against us ...

They are creating a narrative to create justification for Gaza kind of operation in India

The best remedy is to vote for BJP in the 2024.

[chetak]

This is psyops, pure and simple

the wapo is not a friend of India, and neither is the US, it's a part time partner, a frog that appears in the rainy season, happy when it rains in India

BTW, what were the 5eyes (founded 1941) doing after the Air India Kanishika bombing........, that inquiry was closed by canada after a very cursory hearing, with virtually no international outcry, and demands for justice, and the racist canucks didn't care less because most of the victims were brown and the many Indians who were killed by canadian citizens..... on a flight that originated in canada, from a canadian airport

no goose, gander, sauce, and all that......., no rules based international order....., no justice for non whites.....no statement in parliament...........

and today they keep harping, ad nauseam, about a terrorist "canadian citizen" killed on "canadian soil"

Washington Post reports that Justin Trudeau tried to get his western allies, USA, Australia etc., to issue a joint statement against India on Hardeep Singh Nijjar but everyone, including USA, refused to take Canada's side fearing a diplomatic backlash from the Modi Govt.

[Sicanta]

As per Times Now and ABP poll surveys, it's a close fight between BJP and Congress in Rajasthan and MP with Congress having slight edge in MP.

[Sicanta]

Plus, straight fight between TRS and Congress in Telangana with BJP a distant 3rd.

[Prem Kumar]

All the above goes to show how far we are from "Congress Mukth Bharat"

Its a deep-rooted virus, both in terms of its organizational strength, its C-system and the sickness in people's minds where they vote for this pestilence of a party for a few breadcrumbs

It will be a long, long time before we eradicate Congress from India

[Yagnasri]

I do not trust close fight thing in Rajasthan. All indications are pointing out a BJP win.

[SRajesh]

MP like Kar is a self inflicted but why BJP not prepared
Like Kar they had congress cross overs but let them have a free hand
Wonder how many of them will jump back to old party if the indicator point to Congress win

[sanjayc]

All the above goes to show how far we are from "Congress Mukth Bharat"
Its a deep-rooted virus, both in terms of its organizational strength, its C-system and the sickness in people's minds where they vote for this pestilence of a party for a few breadcrumbs
It will be a long, long time before we eradicate Congress from India

The sickness in Hindu minds where they consistently and rabidly keep voting for anti-Hindu forces to rule over them -- this calls for a psychological study of their present mental condition. There is something wrong

[Prem Kumar]

In MP, I don't know what more the BJP can do? Mama is showering the state with freebies, Karnataka style. Plus all the central schemes (Jal Jeevan, Ujjwala etc) over the years

After all this, if the people there vote for the Congress (using some vague thing called anti-incumbency), what should one do?

Anti-incumbency cannot be a thing by itself. That's like saying (as I mentioned above): "I have been eating healthy for 10 years. Now, due to anti-incumbency, I will eat junk-food for another 10"

[chetak]

Allahabad High Court has ordered @INCIndia to pay ₹2.66 crore to UPSRTC for its use of vehicles in the 1980s.

Back in the 1980s, When @RahulGandhi's family was in power in UP and India.

They used each and every institution and asset for their political agenda as if they were their own.

And the irony is today, Rahul Gandhi shamelessly accuses the BJP of using institutions.


https://www.indiatoday.in/law/high-cour ... 2023-10-10

[chetak]

[drnayar]

All the above goes to show how far we are from "Congress Mukth Bharat"
Its a deep-rooted virus, both in terms of its organizational strength, its C-system and the sickness in people's minds where they vote for this pestilence of a party for a few breadcrumbs
It will be a long, long time before we eradicate Congress from India

The sickness in Hindu minds where they consistently and rabidly keep voting for anti-Hindu forces to rule over them -- this calls for a psychological study of their present mental condition. There is something wrong

they cant see the threat for what it is .. till it comes to them.. it is a human trait !!.. either you work your brain to see and understand or wait till you get hit and then understand.

much like standing in the middle of a freeway and finding no vehicle has hit you ..when you were just lucky.

The peaceful religion is a threat to all Hindus., the sooner that gets to the head and understand what it is the less you and your kin suffer

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/aravind/status/1711784399615000826

How will this #IsraelPalestineWar develop in the short and long term:

Arms dealers will definitely benefit from this war. So will Israel, US, and the five eyes in general. How?

Of course, this is a conspiracy theory. So don't believe it.

As always in these operations, the ultimate goal and objective is multipronged.

In a few days, #Israel will enter #Gaza once it has remotely neutralized most of Hamas' capabilities and flattened Gaza for easier operations inside.

In a couple of months, Israel will occupy most of Gaza and will eliminate Hamas inside Gaza. It will control Gaza strip directly. #GazaUnderAttack

Some puppet govt may be installed in Gaza strip in the coming years. And that will be good for long-term peace there and for India-EU's BRI alternative, etc. Israel would have won.

Iran will be blamed soon, within weeks, and involved in this war. They don't have a choice. #HamasTerrorists couldn't have done this without Iran's backing. Also, Iran openly supported the barbaric terror acts soon after.

Iran will be severely weakened with sanctions and embargos along its sea routes. US Navy is already deployed, and the US military is in Israel for all kinds of operations against Iran when necessary. Thus, Iran's support for Russia, too, will be blunted severely.

Syria, Lebanon may also be weakened and see a regime change as there's no way they can prevent this war from spilling over to them even if they stay quiet. Hezbolah, too, will be in this war and weakened. Syria's weakening will be another blow to Russia.

A huge spike in oil prices is coming as Iran's oil is cut off from World Trade, and this war rages on. This will soon lead to economic recession by next year. The world economy is unfortunately primed for it.

Oil will fall steeply. The economic #recession will hurt China and Russia the most. Their dictatorship's support among civilians will fall, like in Iran, as economic hardship hits.

India has a possibility of regime change as the only way Modi is losing next year is severe inflation and economic hardship, making him lose support among citizens. And this hardship may come sooner than elections and in time for it.

India will be prevented somehow from buying Russian oil at a discount, too. The arm twisting has already started with Trudeau's allegations, in my opinion. Having got all the deals with India, the US sees no more need for a nationalistic Modi to be in power.

By the end of 2024, the world will be considerably changed. Most manufacturing in China will start ending for the good as the CCP flexes military muscles to shore up nationalist support to divert public anger from economic issues.

This manufacturing may actually go back to the US as cheap labor will be abundant due to the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants being allowed in right now into the US every month.

The US will, on the back of such rapid onshoring of manufacturing, rise back up from the recession as a top performing large economy. While most of Europe will be reeling under a refugee crisis from the Middle East and will be in economic rot.

Can we discuss different scenarios listed here and analyze?

[drnayar]

This is how the new India under Modi works



Stop everything you are doing and please watch this!

These 4 minutes of your time will tell you how New India is working.

Thank you @AshwiniVaishnaw ji



WATCH VIDEO

Impressive.. india's own 5G tech rollout end to end .. there were members in this forum who dissed at even such an eventuality..

To be sure this also means *nothing* stands in the way for India's power in the world.. it can and will spawn its own spectrum of all the tech it needs for its well being .. and atma nirbharata takes on a very consequential mantle of invincibility..also i understand why Putin is also so impressed !

no doubt india will field its own high tech semiconductor industry, EMALS, quantum computing and 6th gen fighter and submarine tech

[drnayar]

https://twitter.com/aravind/status/1711784399615000826

How will this #IsraelPalestineWar develop in the short and long term:

Arms dealers will definitely benefit from this war. So will Israel, US, and the five eyes in general. How?

Of course, this is a conspiracy theory. So don't believe it.

As always in these operations, the ultimate goal and objective is multipronged.

In a few days, #Israel will enter #Gaza once it has remotely neutralized most of Hamas' capabilities and flattened Gaza for easier operations inside.

In a couple of months, Israel will occupy most of Gaza and will eliminate Hamas inside Gaza. It will control Gaza strip directly. #GazaUnderAttack

Some puppet govt may be installed in Gaza strip in the coming years. And that will be good for long-term peace there and for India-EU's BRI alternative, etc. Israel would have won.

Iran will be blamed soon, within weeks, and involved in this war. They don't have a choice. #HamasTerrorists couldn't have done this without Iran's backing. Also, Iran openly supported the barbaric terror acts soon after.

Can we discuss different scenarios listed here and analyze?

Iran has already distanced itself from the Hamas actions.

https://amwaj.media/article/exclusive-w ... -on-israel
We are not involved’, Iran insists

it would be interesting to see who will up the ante against Iran.. they are the real players here.

[williams]

India has a possibility of regime change as the only way Modi is losing next year is through severe inflation and economic hardship, making him lose support among citizens. And this hardship may come sooner than elections and in time for it.

India will be prevented somehow from buying Russian oil at a discount, too. The arm-twisting has already started with Trudeau's allegations, in my opinion. Having got all the deals with India, the US sees no more need for a nationalistic Modi to be in power.

There are a lot of wheels inside the wheels in India. Also Indian financial top brass are very conservative. That combined with the large and fast-growing domestic market cannot be thwarted by simple things like blocking Russian oil. Trudeau's allegations are a small change. The MAD team probably spent 5 minutes on it and moved on. If India could not be arm-twisted during the COVID pandemic (which BTW they tried), nothing can happen now.

What I am really worried about is BJP shooting itself in the foot or becoming lethargic to fight every small dart that is thrown at it. If they keep reacting the way they did with Trudeau, then nobody can stop them from winning 2024. IMO they let the Manipur thing fester too long.

[chetak]

Not easy to mess with the center, especially if the concerned gent is bent......

ED seizes 15 benami properties of DMK MP and former minister A Raja

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/e ... -mp-a-raja

ungil is currently holding a lok sabha seat.

[chetak]

India has a possibility of regime change as the only way Modi is losing next year is through severe inflation and economic hardship, making him lose support among citizens. And this hardship may come sooner than elections and in time for it.

India will be prevented somehow from buying Russian oil at a discount, too. The arm-twisting has already started with Trudeau's allegations, in my opinion. Having got all the deals with India, the US sees no more need for a nationalistic Modi to be in power.

There are a lot of wheels inside the wheels in India. Also Indian financial top brass are very conservative. That combined with the large and fast-growing domestic market cannot be thwarted by simple things like blocking Russian oil. Trudeau's allegations are a small change. The MAD team probably spent 5 minutes on it and moved on. If India could not be arm-twisted during the COVID pandemic (which BTW they tried), nothing can happen now.

What I am really worried about is BJP shooting itself in the foot or becoming lethargic to fight every small dart that is thrown at it. If they keep reacting the way they did with Trudeau, then nobody can stop them from winning 2024. IMO they let the Manipur thing fester too long.

williams ji,


what if Modi withdrew from the QUAD on a unilateral basis, just saying onlee............

[williams]

There are a lot of wheels inside the wheels in India. Also Indian financial top brass are very conservative. That combined with the large and fast-growing domestic market cannot be thwarted by simple things like blocking Russian oil. Trudeau's allegations are a small change. The MAD team probably spent 5 minutes on it and moved on. If India could not be arm-twisted during the COVID pandemic (which BTW they tried), nothing can happen now.

What I am really worried about is BJP shooting itself in the foot or becoming lethargic to fight every small dart that is thrown at it. If they keep reacting the way they did with Trudeau, then nobody can stop them from winning 2024. IMO they let the Manipur thing fester too long.

williams ji,


what if Modi withdrew from the QUAD on a unilateral basis, just saying onlee............

There are literally so many options. But the Western powers by large do not want to push India into the Russia-China camp. There will be some annoyance from the old guard for sure but nothing that will anger India to do something drastic. It will be quiet until the Chinese are contained, but by then India needs to grow into a large enough pole. We have a window of maybe another decade or two. If we continue to be shy to grow our hard power then nobody will respect us. Hopefully, people understand that we don't want another MMS-Pappu-type clown central govt ever.