India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Oct 2023 11:46

Tanaji wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 00:22 The next turn of the screw should be that GoI should prohibit government owned banks from issuing student loans to new students wanting to study in Canada citing fear of NPA due to heightened risk. Existing loans should continue.
The smarter way should be to create a “Education partner Country index” that would rank countries on suitability for education. Pakistan and Somalia would be last on such an index and parameters should be reasonably open. Govt Banks should be prevented from making student loans to countries below a limit. Canada would lie outside the bar …
That way there is less scope of criticism.
We should learn to play the western game…

While I agree,why bring Somalia in this? Have they done any thing harmful to India? Let those who want to study there go there.
Gautam

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Oct 2023 11:55

sanman wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 10:23

The talking heads are assuming that India has done something wrong. More danda is needed, and amply applied.
Gautam

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 07 Oct 2023 14:43

No mention about the requirement for parity that was demanded, which i think is the key…

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Oct 2023 15:35

Tanaji wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 14:43 No mention about the requirement for parity that was demanded, which i think is the key…

Mahoday,

per the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 1961 which is an international treaty that defines a framework for diplomatic relations between independent countries, the term or even the concept of "parity" is not mentioned.

But, at the same time, the canucks have no credible explanation as to what exactly their numerous "trade missions" and the 41 extra "diplomats" are doing in India.

Jaishankar has made it more than amply clear to the goras that the these extra guys were up to no good

India has innovatively used this via media of "parity" to tell kaneda what's what and where they stand.

It's expulsion without using the word "expulsion".

This also puts a great number of other embassies in dilli on notice which may have muted the international support for the canucks

The goras were all hoping the the threat would not be actually enforced and India was using it more as a negotiating tool....

So now, it's back to their old litany of "rules based international order"

It's called "vidhwa vilap" in hindi

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 07 Oct 2023 15:52

To be honest why would Garchetti ask the american "staff" to reduce "contacts" and lie low with Indians etc ..are these upto the "no good" stuff ?!!! .. wont be surprised if they are american undercover operatives working in India

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Oct 2023 15:56

drnayar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 15:52 To be honest why would Garchetti ask the american "staff" to reduce "contacts" and lie low with Indians etc ..are these upto the "no good" stuff ?!!! .. wont be surprised if they are undercover operatives working in India

drnayar saab,

This was denied by the amrikis on the same day but the denial came after more than 12 hours.....

They have sent a message......

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 07 Oct 2023 15:57

chetak wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 15:56
drnayar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 15:52 To be honest why would Garchetti ask the american "staff" to reduce "contacts" and lie low with Indians etc ..are these upto the "no good" stuff ?!!! .. wont be surprised if they are undercover operatives working in India

This was denied by the amrikis on the same day but the denial came after more than 12 hours.....

They have sent a message......

and that itself confirms that

..lol ..interesting times unfortunately.. but opportune as well

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Oct 2023 16:02

drnayar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 15:57
chetak wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 15:56

This was denied by the amrikis on the same day but the denial came after more than 12 hours.....

They have sent a message......
and that itself confirms that ..lol ..interesting times unfortunately.. but opportune as well

Sirji,

This constant "messaging" is going crazy

It's starting to sound more like a get together of sozzled and deranged postmen

garcetti is way out of his depth (and league), and I daresay, on a very short and tight leash

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Oct 2023 16:05

Dr. Nayarji, in Hindi this is called: चोर की दाढ़ी में तिनका.
CIA annual budget is more than $3 billion. They must have operatives working over time in India, with that kind of money. As an old timer I remember the rumor of a CIA agent active in Mrs. Gandhi's cabinet.
Gautam
(still in Kolkata)

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Oct 2023 19:04

Thats only the declared govt provided budget.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 07 Oct 2023 19:42

Cyrano wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 19:04 Thats only the declared govt provided budget.

But that does not stop them from blaming China for hiding their (Chini) defense budget. Sauce for the goose and gander ityadi.
Gautam

JTull · Post by **JTull** » 07 Oct 2023 20:19

After attack on Indian consulate in London, India removed security from British ambassador's residence. That flagged his address to the public just as Khalistanis in UK were openly publishing for top Indian diplomats.

When Canadians didn't act on open assassination threats to diplomats there, Indian message wrt UK wasn't received.

Now 'parity' demands can expose a lot of five-eyes operations. This message will be well understood!

You've already started seeing action in Canada with one temple graffiti painter arrested and another 6 on arms possession charges. (Alternatively, this may be because Ceasar's pressure not to act is now being ignored by local police.)

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 07 Oct 2023 20:24

Dictator Trudeau forcing podcasters and other independent media to register with the govt, to control them:

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 07 Oct 2023 20:36

Tanaji wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 14:43 No mention about the requirement for parity that was demanded, which i think is the key…

Good we can go down below parity now

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 07 Oct 2023 22:12

I think that this story is effectively over for the international media.

The K gang is going to continue to create trouble with overt support from the Canadian government.

India will have to find a way to hurt Canada economically.

That's the only way, you are going to have any support from Canada.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 07 Oct 2023 23:21

Be that as it may, there's work to do to understand how Canadian terrorists can be prevented from influencing and funding attacks in India.

This link has a good timeline of events -

India’s dossier details Nijjar’s history of travel, terror and thuggery

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 08 Oct 2023 00:04

Dictator Trudeau

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 08 Oct 2023 00:21

IB/RAW should do study of the known Khalistanis, their relatives, parents, grandparents to understand what if anything is common between them that incites them.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 08 Oct 2023 01:35

g.sarkar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 19:42
Cyrano wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 19:04 Thats only the declared govt provided budget.
But that does not stop them from blaming China for hiding their (Chini) defense budget. Sauce for the goose and gander ityadi.
Gautam

I meant that the CIA even the Pentagon have their own funds, and are not dependent on Congress for a certain extent of needs and (black) ops. They lorded over one of the largest productions of opium for 2 decades, employed hundreds of thousands of private armies & MIC from all kinds of declared budgets and slush funds. We aren't even talking about south & central America or Africa. They are far from debutants when it comes to funnel and hide money.

titash · Post by **titash** » 08 Oct 2023 01:50

drnayar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 02:33
titash wrote: ↑07 Oct 2023 02:11 Surely if the main problem is the migration of the Khalistani crowd to Kaneda, the simplest thing to do is put an "exit security review" for all Indian nationals who are flying out with a Kanedian visa? Social Media review + local polis station reports, etc.

To be sure the aam aadmi going to study/earn in Kaneda does not post a threat. Only the folks who are already into Khalistan / susceptible to brainwashing are. Hence the "exit security review" would nail these elements. Basically "emigration to Kaneda" is a privilege not a right.

Also need to plug the hawala channels that bring in the slush funds for said endeavour.
Why not let those exit, exit permanently. No OCI cards . Screening for OCI cards should be made tougher for those fitting certain criteria !!

Sirjee,

With the greatest respect to the patriotic Sikh community who have done so much for India:

1) India needs to recognize the presence of Khalistani riff-raff within the Sikh community

2) Said riff-raff migrates to Kaneda, subverts the Kanedian political system, Gurudwaras, and media narratives, and directs Kaneda's socio-economic power against India

3) As the numbers of said riff-raff in Kaneda increase, this problem will get worse not better - the monster will go into a spiral growth mode where 2/3 to 1/2 of new Sikh migrant (whether or not he/she has big-time Khalistani leanings today) will be indoctrinated against India

4) Would you rather have such disaffected people migrate and cause more problems for you, away from your supervision? Or would you rather keep them at home where they can be under surveillance and you can use the danda as needed?

Having lived in both the US and India, I must say that India offers you an astonishing amount of liberty, just like the US does. You can live your life the way you want it as long as you don't create too many problems for other people. It's sad that people verbally abuse and physically misuse this freedom.

Ultimately its a question of hard power. The US makes it's hard power known. Its only a matter of time before India does.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 08 Oct 2023 04:48

It's for the Sikh community to call out the Khalistanis, throw out these vermin from their gurdwaras and publicly denounce them

Hagmeet is not getting 25 seats in house of commons only because a "handful of extremists" are voting for him.

Why are these Khalistani protests made up of 99% men? What are Sikh women doing as mothers, wives, sisters and daughters? Or are they an oppressed lot like Muslim women?

The longer the they tolerate this the closer Sikhism will become to Islamism - which ironically it was born to fight to defend Hinduism, but has started to join hands with.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 08 Oct 2023 11:00

Justin suddenly says he supports the right of a particular state to eliminate terrorists threatening its security

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 08 Oct 2023 11:08

It's easy for a girouette to do a pirouette!

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 08 Oct 2023 11:26

titash wrote: ↑08 Oct 2023 01:50 ...
4) Would you rather have such disaffected people migrate and cause more problems for you, away from your supervision? Or would you rather keep them at home where they can be under surveillance and you can use the danda as needed?

Having lived in both the US and India, I must say that India offers you an astonishing amount of liberty, just like the US does. You can live your life the way you want it as long as you don't create too many problems for other people.

That's the problem precisely. The above two paras contrast each other.

A democracy, especially a lenient one (forced due to huge diversity) like India cannot stop migrations - of desirables nor of non-desirable.

The desirable migrate because the west offer more opportunities & a generally better quality of life, the non-desirable because the west allows them in (so far) so long as they restrict their disaffection towards India.

The Khalistanis are too few in number as say compared to the Islamists, and are smart enough only to cause trouble to India/indian diaspora.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 08 Oct 2023 20:34

That’s not true. There are severe problems caused by such ilk.

Drugs gunfights killings wife beatings immigration fraud insurance fraud alcoholism restrictions on female education.

There is no publicizing of these societal dysfunctions. Even as a matter of newsworthiness. I can understand it. This population is held in poor esteem by the mainstream. It would definitely fuel antipathy.

One outcome of this publicity is that even the most unmotivated white person will begin to differentiate between Sikhs and Hindus. And that is not a bad thing.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 08 Oct 2023 22:07

freedom of "expression" ..welcome to jihadi capital of western world !

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Oct 2023 03:29

drnayar wrote: ↑08 Oct 2023 22:07

freedom of "expression" ..welcome to jihadi capital of western world !

Where is Jagmeet? How long will it take him to open his mouth in parliament to support Hamas on "self-determination"? He's already given plenty of verbal support to Kashmir jihadis.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Oct 2023 05:38

It turns out Khalistani Jagmeet has a very different standard on Israel-Palestine:

https://twitter.com/theJagmeetSingh/sta ... 1277579461

Of course he does.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 09 Oct 2023 05:48

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-f ... -1.4862004

The falsdu has been funding hamas even as the US stopped aid

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status ... 1421373

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 09 Oct 2023 05:50

Deleted

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 09 Oct 2023 05:53

Source : https://twitter.com/GDLGoyimDe43331/sta ... 6453021115

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Oct 2023 05:59

All the Lefties bubbling up at once:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Oct 2023 06:43

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 09 Oct 2023 06:57

titash wrote: ↑08 Oct 2023 01:50 1) India needs to recognize the presence of Khalistani riff-raff within the Sikh community

2) Said riff-raff migrates to Kaneda, subverts the Kanedian political system, Gurudwaras, and media narratives, and directs Kaneda's socio-economic power against India

3) As the numbers of said riff-raff in Kaneda increase, this problem will get worse not better - the monster will go into a spiral growth mode where 2/3 to 1/2 of new Sikh migrant (whether or not he/she has big-time Khalistani leanings today) will be indoctrinated against India

4) Would you rather have such disaffected people migrate and cause more problems for you, away from your supervision? Or would you rather keep them at home where they can be under surveillance and you can use the danda as needed?

Long as their influence in India is minimized, what they do in Canada is not an issue. It takes a couple of generations before immigrants realize that they cannot return "home". If future Canadians want to establish New Lahore and New Rawalpindi, and turn Canadian energies in an unproductive direction, that would be their prerogative.

brvarsh · Post by **brvarsh** » 09 Oct 2023 08:18

titash wrote: ↑08 Oct 2023 01:50
Long as their influence in India is minimized, what they do in Canada is not an issue. It takes a couple of generations before immigrants realize that they cannot return "home". If future Canadians want to establish New Lahore and New Rawalpindi, and turn Canadian energies in an unproductive direction, that would be their prerogative.

A friendly expat community has more value than an unfriendly one. Except Chinese, almost every other non-resident communities, either Iranians or Cubans or even friendlier ones like Vietnamese are used to keep poking the country politically. It is amazing to see how a bulk number of Chinese settled abroad continue to support and act as an extended arm for Chinese government. Majority with in the ranks of so called Khalistani supporters are nice, have no potential grudge against India but they do support that movement because there is no alternatives, there is no clarity. They will take the same shelter as others of their kind are in, no matter if the shelter is likely to collapse. India should continue its efforts to neutralize such elements softly with pro-Indians immigrating to such countries like Canada. It is doable. Today, they just have a few years of leverage that Congress govt had lost. There is no religious enmity between Hindus and Sikhs, neither any cultural. This is the strength India has. These Sikhs are already in their second generation, and if we lose it, we will lose it for ever.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 09 Oct 2023 10:13

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 89700.html
After UK, Trudeau discusses India-Canada row with UAE; What he said?
ANI, Oct 09, 2023
Earlier, UK PM Rishi Sunak called for de-escalation of the India-Canada row in a call with his Canadian counterpart Justin Trudeau.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Monday discussed the India-Canada row with the President of UAE, Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, stating that it is important to uphold and respect the "rule of law".
The Canadian PM held a telephone conversation with the President of UAE and the two also spoke about the current situation in Israel. The two leaders expressed concern about the need to protect civilian life.
"On the phone today, His Highness @MohamedBinZayed and I spoke about the current situation in Israel. We expressed our deep concern and discussed the need to protect civilian life," posted Trudeau on X.
"We also spoke about India and the importance of upholding - and respecting - the rule of law," his post added.
.......
Gautam
Clutching straws?

yensoy · Post by **yensoy** » 09 Oct 2023 10:48

g.sarkar wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023 10:13 "We also spoke about India and the importance of upholding - and respecting - the rule of law," his post added.
.......
Gautam
Clutching straws?

Wonder how that conversation went.
Trudeau: "We believe in respecting the rule of law and have conveyed our strong concerns to India"
Al-Nahyan: "Yeah we heard India knocked off your terrorist. That is good, that is good. We wish both of you well. Masha allah"

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 09 Oct 2023 11:50

Video: Jennifer Zheng says CCP men carried out Nijjar's assasination and fled canada.

https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97/stat ... 6743028047

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 09 Oct 2023 12:25

There is nothing to overthink here. The dude was neck-deep into mafia activity. Bumped off as a revenge killing for the murder of another mafia fellow earlier.