Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023

[Sachin]

PLA's Ordnance Engineering College in Shijiazhuang City, and is married to a Chinese Muslim wife from Gansu Province.

A local Malayalam news paper reported that his wife and kids were already killed in an earlier attack by Israel. This time, his father, other relatives have been killed and his home is now gone up in the air.

[chetak]

If Egyptian cooperation can be obtained. Then the siege will not be longer than 6 months.

But more than the military action. Public opinion both home and in the western world has to be controlled and kept in check.

If the powers that be can keep the western world's public opinion on check. Gaza can be solved easily.

Or else, this will be a festering sore, that has the potential for derailing the moderate impulse of the Arab states.

Pratyush ji,


currently, the gaza strip is bottled up tighter than a wary pukestan goat surrounded by concupiscent jihadis

egypt has sealed its borders with gaza, the ameriki carrier group has sealed off any entry or exit via the sea route, and the israelis manage the rest of the ingress / egress points.

this is the killing zone, prepped and ready......

one wonders what the filistini jihadis hoped to achieve by poking the bear, in the manner that they did, with massed attacks, publicly executing innocent israeli families, elderly and little kids, hostage taking, and displaying dead bodies on teevee and face book and SM

unless they deliberately gamed the disproportionately savage response but to what end

[Pratyush]

The supposed statement of MBS WRT, the future of Gaza is contradictory to his statement on the future of Israel and Saudi relationship.

[chetak]

There's another Aleppo is unfolding. The whole area is carpet bombed. The Main Israel failure is giving 16k work Visas for these guys, who come and do whatever they want inside Israel. They could not weed out the rogue elements out of it, hence the whole security system crumbled at a weak point. We should be very careful with giving any type of visas to our western neighbour.
Again, the rest of the Gazaites are not saints, they could have easily informed the Israelis about this infiltration at least when this is started in the early hours(a basic common sense), but none of them obliged. Hence the whole 2 Million population is getting punished.

Warning to all those day-dreaming of retaking PoK. Imagine 5 crore residents there suddenly having free access to test of the country.

we have another weakness that the pukis exploit to the hilt because we believe in some crap called "people to people" contacts: the medical visa


the capacity of the Hindu mind to fool itself is limitless and every jihadi sob story finds a sucker in India

[Manish_P]

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Fact is that if they wanted to move out of West Bank and Gaza a lot of them would have done it already or accepted some of the two state proposals however the passion and cause that drives Palestinians is not just getting "a land" it's getting all of thei land and the complete elimination of Israel.

+1 and MBS (and the rest of the ummah) knows that well, hence his 'statesmanship'

Only thing is that Israel is not India, even though both started out as modern independent states around 1947

Incidentally poster 'SanjayC' put the below post today in the 'Road to 2024 Elections thread'

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This is the notorious mental blindness of Hindus (common trait among most Hindus that brings them to grief again and again as it leads to poor decisions when it comes to choosing their leaders). Hence, Hindus rejected Savarkar in favor of Gandhi, and got their backside burnt when Muslims grabbed 1/3rd of India's land for themselves, and then refused to leave India.

[NRao]

[tandav]

[Hamas’s attack shows Benjamin Netanyahu failed Israel - Vox](https://www.vox.com/23910085/netanyahu- ... ar-history)

Second, [a columnist at Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... 9b5dbf0000) unearthed evidence that Netanyahu has intentionally propped up Hamas rule in Gaza — seeing Palestinian extremism as a bulwark against a two-state solution to the conflict.

“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” the prime minister reportedly said at a 2019 meeting of his Likud party. “This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

These exact comments have not yet been confirmed by other sources. But the Times of Israel’s [Tal Schneider wrote on Sunday that](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/) Netanyahu’s reported words “are in line with the policy that he implemented,” which did little to challenge and in some ways bolstered Hamas’s control over the Gaza confidants have [said the same thing](https://twitter.com/DanielSeidemann/sta ... 0679304483), as have outside experts.

The first link above in Ha'aretz is to Gidi Weitz, who precedes the Hamas quote with: [Another Concept Implodes: Israel Can’t Be Managed by a Criminal Defendant - Israel News - Haaretz.com](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... 9b5dbf0000)

His {*Netanyahu's*} life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.

The second link, to Tal Scheider, includes: [For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces | The Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/)

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015

Shades of Congress Party love affair with Bhindranwale in Punjab in the 1980s but 1000 X worse.

[drnayar]

Warning to all those day-dreaming of retaking PoK. Imagine 5 crore residents there suddenly having free access to test of the country.

we have another weakness that the pukis exploit to the hilt because we believe in some crap called "people to people" contacts: the medical visa
the capacity of the Hindu mind to fool itself is limitless and every jihadi sob story finds a sucker in India

the education system and awareness.. the current system ensures the average Hindu cant even contemplate the existential threat they face.. 90 percent cant see beyond their caste/immediate surroundings !!

Unless this changes nothing will change..and even then it would take 10-15 years for a threat perception .. not to mention the rabid religion is growing in bounds and more cohesive than ever.

[SRajesh]

The usual suspects : https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/wh ... 001d&ei=27
This is the right time to label these Closet Jihadi's as to what they really are!
And add Truschke as well to that
No cares riling about the hindus or hinduphobia but Anti-Semite is a big thing with the goras

[Amber G.]

Some sanity ... This Nepali Harvard Student has second thoughts and retracts his shameful earlier statement he issued , and issues an apology ..



And this from the Harvard Ghungroo - the Indian dance team. Truly hope this has been a moment of growing & reflection for Harvard..



True,... When Jewish CEO's (and now hopefully us Indians too) threatened to hire blackout & list of names were captured, their SM impressions have been archived though they tried to delete their online presence... all these students started pretending... "Heartfelt" .. Fear works. (There are stories .. and now getting publicized how these guys need to pay..) eg [ur=https://www.businessinsider.com/nyu-law ... s-2023-10l]<this>[/url]
((An NYU law student lost their post-grad job offer over their statement)

[SRajesh]

:tsk: :tsk: And you could not think of an Apsara, even for yourself!

Dishaji
Aab Kaa kare hum : Saat Janmoka gaant aur Ek patni vrat Noo

[SriKumar]

Some sanity ... This Nepali Harvard Student has second thoughts and retracts his shameful earlier statement he issued , and issues an apology ..

I think neither group has any idea of what's actually going on. The Nepali retraction seemed more thought out. The ghunguroo group still waffled in their retraction(will bite them in the future). These guys either dont seem to follow the news much, or they do but are not very bright. Anyone from Podunk University would know that this one is different, for multiple reasons.

[disha]

Some sanity ... This Nepali Harvard Student has second thoughts and retracts his shameful earlier statement he issued , and issues an apology ..

Amber, can you please not add big GiFs? Link to the posts will be just fine. If you need an example, the same was posted earlier 2-3 pages back.

True,... When Jewish CEO's (and now hopefully us Indians too) threatened to hire blackout & list of names were captured, their SM impressions have been archived though they tried to delete their online presence... all these students started pretending... "Heartfelt" .. Fear works. (There are stories .. and now getting publicized how these guys need to pay..) eg [ur=https://www.businessinsider.com/nyu-law ... s-2023-10l]<this>[/url]
((An NYU law student lost their post-grad job offer over their statement)

Dar ka Mahaul is a good thing. Jihadis and their supporters need to start feeling the pressure. Any word in support of Palestine is actually a word for Satan.

[Amber G.]

Some sanity ... This Nepali Harvard Student has second thoughts and retracts his shameful earlier statement he issued , and issues an apology ..

I think neither group has any idea of what's actually going on. The Nepali retraction seemed more thought out. The ghunguroo group still waffled in their retraction(will bite them in the future). These guys either dont seem to follow the news much, or they do but are not very bright. Anyone from Podunk University would know that this one is different, for multiple reasons.

To me, what is significant that, it looks like, they are realizing, there is a price to pay .. namely even with a Harvard degree, one can be blacklisted ..(Ryna Workman - student president of the NYU Law School Bar Association - got his job offer rescinded by Winston & Strawn for such statement for example. - and that is getting quite a bit of publicity == . and that kind of fear may have some effect...Ditto for some big followers of anti-hindu troublemakers are finding out that may be there will be some price to pay)

[Amber G.]

Sharing a nicely written article:
The Moral Depravity of the Pro-Terrorists Left

It is written for Pro-Hamas -- but can easily be applied to Pro-Khalistni / Pro-Jihadis etc..

[AshishA]

Interestingly, Taliban is now saying they are hoping for peace and calm on both sides. And they won't send any fighters to Israel. They don't support terrorism and will not get involved in it

[drnayar]

Interestingly, Taliban is now saying they are hoping for peace and calm on both sides. And they won't send any fighters to Israel. They don't support terrorism and will not get involved in it

[drnayar]

I think neither group has any idea of what's actually going on. The Nepali retraction seemed more thought out. The ghunguroo group still waffled in their retraction(will bite them in the future). These guys either dont seem to follow the news much, or they do but are not very bright. Anyone from Podunk University would know that this one is different, for multiple reasons.

To me, what is significant that, it looks like, they are realizing, there is a price to pay .. namely even with a Harvard degree, one can be blacklisted ..(Ryna Workman - student president of the NYU Law School Bar Association - got his job offer rescinded by Winston & Strawn for such statement for example. - and that is getting quite a bit of publicity == . and that kind of fear may have some effect...Ditto for some big followers of anti-hindu troublemakers are finding out that may be there will be some price to pay)

that is the deterrent right there.. make sure they pay whoever it is.. like the kanadian khalis are finding out now

[Amber G.]

To me, what is significant that, it looks like, they are realizing, there is a price to pay .. namely even with a Harvard degree, one can be blacklisted ..(Ryna Workman - student president of the NYU Law School Bar Association - got his job offer rescinded by Winston & Strawn for such statement for example. - and that is getting quite a bit of publicity == . and that kind of fear may have some effect...Ditto for some big followers of anti-hindu troublemakers are finding out that may be there will be some price to pay)

that is the deterrent right there.. make sure they pay whoever it is.. like the kanadian khalis are finding out now

Yes. For example: , Bill Ackman, (CEO of Pershing Square,) tweeted "a number of CEOs have asked if Harvard would release a list of the members of each of the Harvard organizations that have issued the letter assigning sole responsibility for Hamas’ heinous acts to Israel, so as to insure that none of us inadvertently hire any of their members.... (BTW as I see it now - the original Google document of the signatory groups had been edited to remove the names of the groups that signed it.).... So are some of the posts By Workman )

( This is also true -- and many of us - like CEO's in Google/IBM etc - should do the same.. and openly say we are not going to hire bigots/terrorists etc)
(Not only kanadian khalis .. this should apply to many (perhaps) misguided young students -- and adults in politics..)..

Here is another news item about cost of bigotry - Harvard law student linked to statement blaming Israel denounces contents, says she didn't read it

[Lisa]

I am sorry, do not know how to post an image. Can somebody help, please?

https://twitter.com/rohithverse/status/ ... 4300718507

Here is the Indians list who supported Palestine and Hamas from Harvard and signed the petition. Sraddha Joshi, Sravya Tadepalli, Neha Bhatia, Shivani Gupta and Jasleen Kaur.
@BillAckman for your help and watch.

https://twitter.com/webstati/status/1711987429522219426

I think Sravya Tadepalli is from anti Hindu "Hindus for human rights"

added later

https://twitter.com/not_so_raw/status/1 ... 7279350881

[NRao]

^^^^^

The original, unedited, document should be there somewhere.

[Amber G.]

Lisa - Thanks.

[chetak]

There is a lesson in there somewhere for India

keep all the pakis, beedis and other jihadis out

If at all there is some nonsense about "we are the same people", it is limited to very small pockets in certain areas of the north, period. This evil meme is being pushed by the commies, wokes and the congis since 1947

There is no commonality with any group or ethnicity or culture, in any other part of India

@BenMFreeman

Reports suggest Palestinians permitted to work in Israel were among those who perpetrated the massacre.

The survivors recognized some of whom had worked on the Kibbutz.

They were the ones leading the Pogrom.

[Lisa]

There is a need for a Wikipedia type section on this forum that can be used as a reference tool when these names crop up. Such a section should be maintained so that a public track of their nefarious acts can be kept and curated with regular updates. A complete Bio of these quislings should be attached so that they can be pinned when they transgress. If this site cannot host such content, I will gladly acquire and provide a server in a friendly country - that is immune to sanctions- for the same.

I have absolutely no software knowledge but will happy assist.

[NRao]

"Modi Miracle": Ex-Israeli Intel Chief On India Brokering Peace With Hamas

As I had stated, wonder how many times Jaishanar's cell rings.

New Delhi: Four days into the bloodiest Israel-Hamas conflict in decades - in which more than 1,600 people have been killed and over 6,000 injured - there is still no sign of peace or even a ceasefire.

Amid talk that India - which negotiated the inclusion of the African Union into the G20 and expanded the BRICS bloc by six nations - could play a key role in this regard, the former head of Israel's military intelligence has told NDTV Tel Aviv would welcome a "Modi miracle".

"Hamas is not willing to do any negotiation... any peace. Hamas is a terror organisation (like ISIS)... they are killing women, children in a very cold way. If Modi can make this miracle (happen)..." Major General Amos Yadlin (retd), said.

The Major General told NDTV this afternoon that while Israel would welcome any attempt by Prime Minister Narendra Modi to mediate a peace, Hamas "is not willing for peace".

"Israel and India relations are very important. These are two nations that got out independence at the same time... have similar traditions. We are two nations that have enemies at the border... you have Pakistan, China, and we have the terrorists from Gaza, Hezbollah, and Iran and Syria."

"There is a lot of the same political background, and Israel is helping India a lot. We are giving weapons that you used to get from Russia. We welcome any attempt by your PM to mediate..."

He also said a combination of multiple operational failures were likely why Israel's much-vaunted intelligence network had failed to predict or prevent Hamas' brutal attack. The domestic intel agency, Shin Bet, and the famed spy agency Mossad, have been scrambling for answers.

"Signals were not picked up, sensors were neutralised. The consequences were catastrophic," he said, when asked why neither agency had acted in time to stop what will likely be thousands of deaths and billions of dollars in damage to property and infrastructure by the time the dust settles.

Israel, he said, had been "very effective" in preventing Hamas' attacks.

"We have the best anti-rocket system in the world..." he said, but also acknowledged the Palestinian group had successfully altered tactics to counter extreme digital and physical surveillance by the Israelis.

The exclusive interview to NDTV came as Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu spoke to Prime Minister Narendra Modi to give him an update on the military situation in that country. PM Modi's office said he had given his counterpart an assurance that India stands with Israel in "this difficult hour".

Hamas this morning threatened Tel Aviv with the execution of "a hostage for every bomb dropped on a Palestinian home", after Israel Monday announced a "complete siege" of the Gaza Strip.

[Amber G.]

India is launching #OperationAjay to facilitate the return from Israel of our citizens who wish to return. Special charter flights and other arrangements being put in place. Fully committed to the safety and well-being of our nationals abroad.

[Tanaji]

There is a need for a Wikipedia type section on this forum that can be used as a reference tool when these names crop up. Such a section should be maintained so that a public track of their nefarious acts can be kept and curated with regular updates. A complete Bio of these quislings should be attached so that they can be pinned when they transgress. If this site cannot host such content, I will gladly acquire and provide a server in a friendly country - that is immune to sanctions- for the same.

I have absolutely no software knowledge but will happy assist.

Lisaji, many years ago, I had suggested a similar thing. The community here posts a lot of articles from various places that puts up names of interesting people and organisations. The more interesting ones should go into a database and more importantly , links between them. So for example, it would contain individual x member of Y organisation that has members A, b and c. Searching on a name will automatically give you the relationships and the biodata of the same.

This should be possible to be implemented, I just dont have the skills to do it. Happy to be involved in seeding the database with data…

[drnayar]

very interesting .. NaMo puts India first.. does India have skin in the game directly ..probably not but indirectly it does.. but there has to be a lot of give and take

meantime it looks like Hizbollah would want their pound of flesh

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 293806.cms

Israel seems to be using a multi pronged approach.. a land invasion as well as a track 2 diplomacy that wont be direct negotiations

Bharat would be well placed to be the intermediary

[AkshaySG]

Something I'm always impressed by is the speed and capability of Jewish orgs in the West to highlight and force a backtrack on anything anti-Israel / anti Semitic being done, said, written

There's a pro Palestinian protest in the evening and the next morning you have Prime Ministers and Presidents out condemning it,

Anyone doing so via social media is fired by their employer and cancelled by their peers.

Tech companies, sports teams, organizations etc all put out statements within a day.

Whereas for Anti India and Anti Hindu causes its open season.

[Lisa]

There is a need for a Wikipedia type section on this forum that can be used as a reference tool when these names crop up. Such a section should be maintained so that a public track of their nefarious acts can be kept and curated with regular updates. A complete Bio of these quislings should be attached so that they can be pinned when they transgress. If this site cannot host such content, I will gladly acquire and provide a server in a friendly country - that is immune to sanctions- for the same.

I have absolutely no software knowledge but will happy assist.

Lisaji, many years ago, I had suggested a similar thing. The community here posts a lot of articles from various places that puts up names of interesting people and organisations. The more interesting ones should go into a database and more importantly , links between them. So for example, it would contain individual x member of Y organisation that has members A, b and c. Searching on a name will automatically give you the relationships and the biodata of the same.

This should be possible to be implemented, I just dont have the skills to do it. Happy to be involved in seeding the database with data…

Ji, I have made a note. Give me time, will investigate and revert. Thank you.

[chetak]

The treachery of the Britshit empire



https://youtu.be/ZXfuqUhzESg


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This is a story of intrigue among rival empires; of misguided strategies; and of how conflicting promises to Arab and Jew created a legacy of bloodshed which determined the fate of the Middle East

[drnayar]

Something I'm always impressed by is the speed and capability of Jewish orgs in the West to highlight and force a backtrack on anything anti-Israel / anti Semitic being done, said, written

There's a pro Palestinian protest in the evening and the next morning you have Prime Ministers and Presidents out condemning it,

Anyone doing so via social media is fired by their employer and cancelled by their peers.

Tech companies, sports teams, organizations etc all put out statements within a day.

Whereas for Anti India and Anti Hindu causes its open season.

its not that the capability is not there..and this comes from contacts and "motivating" the right people at the right places , mobilizing them and ability to create the favourable narrative in all the media.. in this respect the Mossad is second to none !!.. acknowledged by the CIA ..lol

[Neela]

Something I'm always impressed by is the speed and capability of Jewish orgs in the West to highlight and force a backtrack on anything anti-Israel / anti Semitic being done, said, written

There's a pro Palestinian protest in the evening and the next morning you have Prime Ministers and Presidents out condemning it,

Anyone doing so via social media is fired by their employer and cancelled by their peers.

Tech companies, sports teams, organizations etc all put out statements within a day.

Whereas for Anti India and Anti Hindu causes its open season.

It is good to have the support coming in from different quarters. But Israel is a tiny country and they are at the mercy of the bigger powers for their survival. This is the political food chain that all small countries endure / have to live with.
whereas.
We have endured 1971 and 1998.
We have grown on our own. We managed Covid on our own with our own vaccine.
We are being sought desperately to take sides on Ukraine and we are seeing anger & helplessness as we set our own opinion.
Imagine a buffalo in the rain...what happens? Well , absolutely nothing.
We dont need need support for our policies. its nice to have , but we dont need it. We can manage on our own - this is advantage of our land mass and an large internal market which for us is self sustaining.
Even after Balakot, we executed and then called a few folk and let them know this is what was done. We are just being polite . We are letting them know and the ambassadors can take the message to their countries.

And all of this , is now , when we are a near 4T economy. When we hit 8T in 2028-2029, watch how the attitude changes.

[NRao]

[williams]

There's another Aleppo is unfolding. The whole area is carpet bombed. The Main Israel failure is giving 16k work Visas for these guys, who come and do whatever they want inside Israel. They could not weed out the rogue elements out of it, hence the whole security system crumbled at a weak point. We should be very careful with giving any type of visas to our western neighbour.
Again, the rest of the Gazaites are not saints, they could have easily informed the Israelis about this infiltration at least when this is started in the early hours(a basic common sense), but none of them obliged. Hence the whole 2 Million population is getting punished.

Yeah, that is the original problem. Most of these people are soft supporters of Hamas. That is why it is hard not to bring that religion here. Islam is not just a religion, it also encompasses a political movement and provides a license to butcher babies, women, and unarmed civilians at will. None of the Arab countries condemned this attack. They are looking for restraint from Israel or calm on all sides. Iran even congratulated Hamas. When we say rogue elements, we are talking about hardline supporters. Most in the Islamic world are soft supporters of such acts as long as it is done to the Kafirs. Now they are being carpet bombed. If you allow snakes to fester in your nest, you are going to get hurt when the snakes are preyed upon.

[drnayar]

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as predicted .. this will be a bloody no holds barred rampage .. look for graphics of buildings being bull dozed in the media while civilian casualties will be muted. .

Hamas and qatar will be asking for negotiations soon.. and this is where India would need to step in .. if at all !

[Larry Walker]

Interestingly, Taliban is now saying they are hoping for peace and calm on both sides. And they won't send any fighters to Israel. They don't support terrorism and will not get involved in it

Imagine the level of depravity and barbarism that Hamas unleashed on Jews that even Taliban had to distance themselves.
These Hamas animals need to be exterminated.

[NRao]

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@29:00 General states that Haas and the Taliban have had a lot of interactions!!!!!!!!!!! Says China has no experience and therefore he feels it is Taliban and not China.

However, I think Chinese techs were used.

[disha]

Imagine the level of depravity and barbarism that Hamas unleashed on Jews that even Taliban had to distance themselves.
These Hamas animals need to be exterminated.

The same taliban supported bakis were even more barbaric to Kashmiri Pandits and caused genocide. Currently you are shocked with horror. ~30 years back, all we had was news clipping about mass rape, chopped breasts, hand sawn while living, skinned while living, genitals chopped and stuffed in mouth and skinned alive and pinned to chinar trees. Babies murdered.

Innocent women and children were burnt alive. Innocent people had their heads chopped off.

Hence anyone who says "Cashmere is for Cashmeres" or talks about Islamophobia in fact are bunch of depraved barbaric morons supporting Jihadi Terrorism and just like Jihadi terrorists have no place in society, in same way their supporters have no place in society.

There is massive outpouring of support from Indians for Israelis and that is because several generations of Indians have suffered the barbarity of Islamic Jihadi Terrorism and we understand that very well.

Just like holocaust deniers have no place in society, similarly supporters of Jihadi Terrorism have no place in society.

[Jay]

Coming back to topic - yes, Hamas needs to go. But this makes one wonder:
1. How will you make hamas disappear - billion dollar question?
2. Occupy a city of 2 million? for how long? Will that work?
3. More importantly, who is propping up Hamas (remember ISIS and Keeda also need to go, but ultimately who were propping them up?)

One suspects that here is much more to this than meets the eye.

Cain Ji, I don't think you can disappear hamas but can degrade it's fighting will for a few years. Israeli occupation of Gaza will start to give them diminishing returns after a certain point. Unless some political concessions come into picture(not at this hour), the only viable solution will be to de populate gaza but this will for sure widen the scope of conflict and who ever will inherit this populace will also inherit the war.

Does anyone remember the 2006 israel-hezbolla conflict? It will be good to re visit the conflict to understand the limitations and strengths of israel and it's enemies.

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals ... epared.pdf