Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Oct 2023 01:17

The Ottoman Empire has this map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... isions.png . No mention of Palestine!

The Ottoman Empire was defeated in World War I (1914–1918), its lands were ceded to the victorious Allies who carved the land into new nations, which included Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria.

Under the Treaty of Sèvres (1920), the League of Nations formally gave control of Palestine to the British government. Britain’s job was to implement the Balfour Declaration, which had been signed five years earlier, stating Britain’s desire to create a homeland in Palestine for the Jews. British control over this territory lasted from 1923 to 1948.

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Oct 2023 02:02

We all know that Israeli intelligence and defense broke down when Hamas attacked Israel. There was a barrage of missiles shot by hamas against Israel civilians. Naturally questions are being asked about Israel intelligence and its Iron Dome. Are there lessons for Bharat? Air marshal G. S. Bedi discusses ..

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Oct 2023 08:07

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67152271
Three law students who backed Israel letters lose job offers
Mike Wendling, BBC News, 10/19/2023
An elite law firm has rescinded job offers for three Ivy League students associated with letters expressing support for Palestinians that blamed Israel for the Hamas attacks.
Davis Polk & Wardwell said the views "are in direct contravention of our firm's value system".
It added that student leaders who signed onto the statements are "no longer welcome in our firm".
The students, who have not been named, attend Harvard and Columbia.
However, an email sent by the managing partner, Neil Barr and seen by the BBC, indicates that a door has potentially been left open for a reversal of the decision.
It said the firm was talking to two of the students "to ensure that any further color being offered to us by these students is considered".
The decision on Tuesday by the firm - which employs around 1,000 attorneys and has annual revenues of $1.7bn (£1.4bn) - comes as the views taken by US university students about the conflict in the Middle East continue to cause controversy on and off college campuses.
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Gautam

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Oct 2023 08:32

@2:27 Canadian CBC news presenter says:

"Now let's be very careful with this question of BLAME. Because the truth is it's impossible at this point for any news organization to independently verify any claim on either side."

Ohhh, when it comes to Nijjar's death, then accusation can be reported as fact, without any corroboration whatsoever!
But that's just because it's worthless backward India being accused.

When it comes to important countries like Israel, maximum delicacy must be shown in dealing with accusations and controversies.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Oct 2023 09:54

Tucker interviews Vivek on Israel-Gaza crisis:

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Oct 2023 10:05

sanman wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 09:54 Tucker interviews Vivek on Israel-Gaza crisis:

As much as I love Vivek, I disagree with him when he says Israel does not have a goal. Israel does have a goal: get-rid-of-Hamas!!

And, the sane world (I know, it does not exist) should support that.

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Oct 2023 10:24

Vivek Ramaswamy has some dharmic blood in his veins and he is using "Shraddha" to guide him, not blind "Bhakti" of the neocons or republican party or Presidents like Biden or even "Israel". No blind regurgitation of standard lines of the flock, just pure logic, pure understanding and what is good for "America". Only "Shraddha" can guide you which is what Sri Krishna in the BhagavadGita exhorts a person to do. This is what is needed in crisis mode. Israeli PM Ben Netanyahu can ponder upon what Vivek said and take a perspective which will be good for Israel. The alternative can lead to a rat-hole of problems and issues which can be intractable. Getting rid of Hamas is rather an uphill task because version 2 will spring up just like that. The alternate would be for Israel to rid any vestiges of Hamas and govern the place which given the population numbers will be another uphill task. Kudos to Tucker for this interview.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Oct 2023 10:29

Live

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Oct 2023 15:32

NRao wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 10:05 As much as I love Vivek, I disagree with him when he says Israel does not have a goal. Israel does have a goal: get-rid-of-Hamas!!

And, the sane world (I know, it does not exist) should support that.

Netanyahu has goals - and they're far more ambitious than just eliminating Hamas.
Here he makes the mistake of speaking too candidly:

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 19 Oct 2023 16:00

Yes I think the plan probably is to redraw borders and get rid of Gazan terrorist
Probably the agreement for a West Bank Palestinian state but Ramallah as capital than Jerusalem
Now what Sleepy J has agreed and what Sunak is willing to given the risk of jehadi attacks in UK given the number of Dara hua Insaan’s in UK

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Oct 2023 17:45

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 19 Oct 2023 18:12

So finally, terrorists decided to fight against the caste in US Colleges ...

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Oct 2023 19:28

Hamas Talks To Indian Media To Throw Out Modi in 2024? Congress sends TEAM of journalist To Gaza

Burka Dutt reaches Gaza!!!

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 19 Oct 2023 19:48

Iran calls on Islamic nations to sanction Israel in response to its war crimes

Within a month Iran will enter this conflict in one way or another in a much bigger and transparent way.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 19 Oct 2023 20:53

Amber G. wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 18:12 So finally, terrorists decided to fight against the caste in US Colleges ...

How do they wish to abolish caste? It’s not a law or statute that you can repeal in parliament. Typical green meets red propaganda.

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 19 Oct 2023 21:17

I am confused, what is brahmins got to do with palestinian fight? How is disappearing of Kashmiri women linked to brahmin? Already all pundits are eliminated from Kashmir... How can they do reverse love jihad?

Looks like if there is a tornado in US, that will also be blamed on brahmin blowing conch....

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Oct 2023 21:27

You already are showing your elitist, patriarchal, brahminical, capitalist, anti-dalit, anti-muslim, anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-galactic, caste oppressive, privileged mentality by asking a perfectly normal question. Instead of just accepting the bizzare statement that triggered your question as fact.

madhu wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 21:17 I am confused, what is brahmins got to do with palestinian fight? How is disappearing of Kashmiri women linked to brahmin? Already all pundits are eliminated from Kashmir... How can they do reverse love jihad?

Looks like if there is a tornado in US, that will also be blamed on brahmin blowing conch....

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Oct 2023 21:36

This linking of India with everything bad has been going on for a while. The Germans adopted the swastika ( they had the hakenkruz - hooked cross) and Nazi germany has always been associated with the nasty swastika symbol. The swastika symbol is sacred to Vedics and Buddhists for thousands of years. Now the Vedics/Buddhists are tarnished because a madcap adopted the symbol for their wars in Euroland. Before this was the Aryan invasion theory thrust upon India. Now, the wokes/left a-holes are trying to associate caste (which is a portuguese term) with all things dominating, bad and oppressive. There is a concerted effort to pin all blame on India and its systems. First it was Aryan, then swastika and now it is casta (created by the Britshit census of India which converted varna to casta). No one talks about the mayhem, murder and chaos being committed in the name of the peaceful. How ironic. The left/wokes are in a media warfare by linking in brahmin/israel/swastika/aryan etc and tar them wholesale while committing murderous acts and terror.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Oct 2023 21:47

bala wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 21:36 This linking of India with everything bad has been going on for a while. The Germans adopted the swastika ( they had the hakenkruz - crooked cross) and Nazi germany has always been associated with the nasty swastika symbol. The swastika symbol is sacred to Vedics and Buddhists for thousands of years. Now the Vedics/Buddhists are tarnished because a madcap adopted the symbol for their wars in Euroland. Before this was the Aryan invasion theory thrust upon India. Now, the wokes/left a-holes are trying to associate caste (which is a portuguese term) with all things dominating, bad and oppressive. There is a concerted effort to pin all blame on India and its systems. First it was Aryan, then swastika and now it is casta (created by the Britshit census of India which converted varna to casta). No one talks about the mayhem, murder and chaos being committed in the name of the peaceful. How ironic. The left/wokes are in a media warfare by linking in brahmin/israel/swastika/aryan etc and tar them wholesale while committing murderous acts and terror.

bala saar,

hakenkreuz = = hooked cross

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 19 Oct 2023 22:14

I wonder why Indians do not refer to it as modified Christ’s cross of the Nazis.

Or does the GDP need to approach 5 trillion first?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Oct 2023 22:45

WA

you are witnessing the gaza strip nightmare of israel

a similar strip proposed by djinnah and it was accepted by the stretcher bearer of the empire

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Oct 2023 23:04

Well tried! With that goes Yamuna, ganga, the gangetic plains and the Ganga + Brahmaputra delta... Aur kuch chahiye ya bill banadoon ?

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 19 Oct 2023 23:05

bala wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 21:36 This linking of India with everything bad has been going on for a while. The Germans adopted the swastika ( they had the hakenkruz - hooked cross) and Nazi germany has always been associated with the nasty swastika symbol. The swastika symbol is sacred to Vedics and Buddhists for thousands of years. Now the Vedics/Buddhists are tarnished because a madcap adopted the symbol for their wars in Euroland. Before this was the Aryan invasion theory thrust upon India. Now, the wokes/left a-holes are trying to associate caste (which is a portuguese term) with all things dominating, bad and oppressive. There is a concerted effort to pin all blame on India and its systems. First it was Aryan, then swastika and now it is casta (created by the Britshit census of India which converted varna to casta). No one talks about the mayhem, murder and chaos being committed in the name of the peaceful. How ironic. The left/wokes are in a media warfare by linking in brahmin/israel/swastika/aryan etc and tar them wholesale while committing murderous acts and terror.

Smearing the heathens and non-believers. They have been doing it for 2000 years. Their impulse is religious. They did worse with Jews. (Can't blame them as church catches them early and indoctrination against the heathen begins by the time they are 5 years of age. By the time they are adults, they are automatons, incapable of independent thought. Communist regimes operate the same way.)

Banning all faiths that preach hatred of non-believers will be a big step towards world peace.

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Oct 2023 23:42

This YT (23:00 onwards to 34:00) has Dr. Michael Rubin from the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) who gives a good perspective on a) Israel/Gaza/West Bank and other finer details of the various tussles with Palestine b) middle east players c) american political considerations - (talks about Greeks (pissed off with Turkey) in districts of US who can swing results into the republican wave) d) Iran

Added: Dr Rubin says that the Hamas leadership hiding in Qatar are involved in negotiations for the hostages that Hamas is holding in Gaza strip.

bala · Post by **bala** » 20 Oct 2023 00:58

chetak wrote:strip proposed by djinnah

Chetak saar, now the Pukes require a strip via Balochistan and another strip via Sindh to the Gwadar port.

Mean-e-while

Israel has said that the evidence of Hamas having used North Korea made missiles has emerged. North Korea won't take a breath without getting approval from the CCP. The failed rocket on the hospital was of North Korea origin.

Emperor Eleven has blood on his hands of those Israelis killed by Hamas rockets.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Oct 2023 03:06

https://abcnews.go.com/International/se ... =104147141
US Navy destroyer in Red Sea shoots down cruise missiles potentially headed toward Israel: Pentagon
The missiles were fired by Iranian-backed Houthi militia in Yemen, the DOD said.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 20 Oct 2023 04:53

Amber G. wrote: ↑17 Oct 2023 10:48 Meanwhile .. Huntsman's letter/action seem to have some effect..:
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The Wexner Foundation announces that it is cutting ties with Harvard
...
(Hope more take such action)

UPenn has $21 Billion endowment where as Harvard has $40+ billion dollar endowment funds. It hardly matters to these universities whether Hunstman's foundation or Wexner foundation cut ties with them.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 20 Oct 2023 05:29

^^ Oh they do care sir. Top management is judged money they bring in and unless they make up for it via another source rest assured this will cause discomfort. But Qataris will be there to help.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 20 Oct 2023 07:03

Hindus in North America may have several hundreds of billions in assets. The 30 million diaspora may be worth almost twice that.

That buys a lot of endowed chairs and politicians. Indians need to and will use this money muscle when India itself is a major force in the world economy.

NYT will self censor to sensibilities much as they have for China.

I well remember when the overseas Chinese started to make a major economic and technology impact in the US. I recall being a little wistful about Indians in the west.

Well they are eating the overseas Chinese’s lunch.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 20 Oct 2023 09:35

Mean while a tragi-comedy from the socialist communist heaven, Kerala.
Kerala firm suspends uniform supply to Israeli police citing moral grounds
One Malayalam news paper had first reported of this other wise unknown firm being a steady supplier for Israeli forces for many years. I had the gut feeling that this report was a dog whistle for the commies & peacefools to try their silent threats. And it has worked. So;
1. Mariyan Apparel factory loses a steady business to uphold their secular credentials. The owner/management are X'ians.
2. The staff who may lose their job - all women - would most probably Hindus (and may be commies themselves).
3. The actual contract for supplying uniforms is taken by a company in Mumbai - who most probably would be Sindhis, Gujjus. They can easily outsource/sub contract with other apparel factories across India.

Israel has no loss, the Mumbai company has no loss; while it is all loss for KL based X'ians and Hindus that too for some peacefools in a far away place.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 20 Oct 2023 10:45

Chetakji,
That map is bogus. It needs to show Kashmir and Hyderabad (or Hyderabad Dhakkan as the Pukes call it) as a part of Pakistan.
Gautam

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Oct 2023 10:50

Sachin wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023 09:35 Mean while a tragi-comedy from the socialist communist heaven, Kerala.
Kerala firm suspends uniform supply to Israeli police citing moral grounds
One Malayalam news paper had first reported of this other wise unknown firm being a steady supplier for Israeli forces for many years. I had the gut feeling that this report was a dog whistle for the commies & peacefools to try their silent threats. And it has worked. So;
1. Mariyan Apparel factory loses a steady business to uphold their secular credentials. The owner/management are X'ians.
2. The staff who may lose their job - all women - would most probably Hindus (and may be commies themselves).
3. The actual contract for supplying uniforms is taken by a company in Mumbai - who most probably would be Sindhis, Gujjus. They can easily outsource/sub contract with other apparel factories across India.

Israel has no loss, the Mumbai company has no loss; while it is all loss for KL based X'ians and Hindus that too for some peacefools in a far away place.

I hope this Business goes to "communal" Business from a "Communal State".

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 20 Oct 2023 10:56

BTW any idea why the US has moved 494 FS F15E strike Eagles and A-10 to the Middle East, most Probably to Qatar. So this Powerful US miliary will be a stone throw from Hamas leaders based in Qatar.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Oct 2023 11:51

Trudeau not ready to accept U.S. finding that Palestinian militants' rocket was behind Gaza hospital blast

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 20 Oct 2023 13:03

Sachin wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023 09:35 Mean while a tragi-comedy from the socialist communist heaven, Kerala.
Kerala firm suspends uniform supply to Israeli police citing moral grounds
One Malayalam news paper had first reported of this other wise unknown firm being a steady supplier for Israeli forces for many years. I had the gut feeling that this report was a dog whistle for the commies & peacefools to try their silent threats. And it has worked. So;
1. Mariyan Apparel factory loses a steady business to uphold their secular credentials. The owner/management are X'ians.
2. The staff who may lose their job - all women - would most probably Hindus (and may be commies themselves).
3. The actual contract for supplying uniforms is taken by a company in Mumbai - who most probably would be Sindhis, Gujjus. They can easily outsource/sub contract with other apparel factories across India.

Israel has no loss, the Mumbai company has no loss; while it is all loss for KL based X'ians and Hindus that too for some peacefools in a far away place.

The leftist communists are now so heavily Muslim dominated and dictated that it is no longer communist Marxist party in kerala but rather communist Muslim party . Pinarayi s daughter has converted and married a Muslim

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 20 Oct 2023 13:26

My blogpost on the coming Israel-Hamas ground war.

https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2023/10/wh ... might.html

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 20 Oct 2023 14:42

What is the current situation in Israel taking our attention off of ? Lot of things that we must not forget.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Oct 2023 18:19

Posting ONLY for the title. The Major is in the habit of talking about everything but the title of the video.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Oct 2023 18:23

White House deletes photos of special forces aiding Hamas hostage situation one hour after posting

The US government has apologized for accidentally revealing the identities of some of its special forces who were sent to Israel to assist in the hostage rescue mission.

The White House posted a photo on its official Instagram account showing President Joe Biden shaking hands with a member of the Delta Force, the Army’s elite counter-terrorism unit. The photo also exposed the faces of three other Delta Force members and a distinctive tattoo on the arm of the soldier greeting Biden.

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Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 20 Oct 2023 22:42

chetak wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 21:47
bala wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 21:36 This linking of India with everything bad has been going on for a while. The Germans adopted the swastika ( they had the hakenkruz - crooked cross) and Nazi germany has always been associated with the nasty swastika symbol. The swastika symbol is sacred to Vedics and Buddhists for thousands of years. Now the Vedics/Buddhists are tarnished because a madcap adopted the symbol for their wars in Euroland.

bala saar,

hakenkreuz = = hooked cross

Even now Germans say "hakekreuz". They do not say swastika.
The association with swastika and tarnishing is all due to the angrez and umreeki. They could have continued to call it hooked cross. However swastika was popular in America pre WW2. So can't say if it was deliberate maliciousness