India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

[g.sarkar]

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/trud ... 231020.htm
Trudeau says India has violated international law
Utkarsh Mishra, October 20, 2023
Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Friday that India's decision to revoke the diplomatic immunity of 41 Canadian diplomats is a violation of the Vienna Convention and it should worry all countries, hours after New Delhi rejected Ottawa's attempt to portray the implementation of parity as a violation of international norms.
Speaking at a press conference in Brampton, Ontario, he said the Indian government was making it 'unbelievably difficult' for life as usual to continue for millions of people in India and in Canada.
"And, they're doing it by contravening a very basic principle of diplomacy," he said.
Trudeau claimed that the actions that India took were contrary to international law.
"The government of India decided to unilaterally revoke the diplomatic immunity of 40 Canadian diplomats in India. This is a violation of the Vienna Convention governing diplomacy. This is them choosing to contravene a very fundamental principle of international law and diplomacy," he said.
"It is something that all countries in the world should be very worried about, and this is putting aside the allegations we made of a serious violation of international law with the alleged killing of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil that the Indian government could have been involved in," he said.
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Gautam
Justinder is showing weakness and other powers will remember this and use it against him. Domestically, he has made himself weak and vulnerable.

[g.sarkar]

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/us-c ... 231021.htm
US 'concerned' over Canadian diplomats leaving India
Lalit K Jha, October 21, 2023
The United States on Friday expressed concern (external link) over the departure of Canadian diplomats from India and said that it expects New Delhi to uphold its obligations under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.
Canada has withdrawn 41 diplomats from India after it threatened to strip them of their diplomatic immunity by Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly has said, amid a diplomatic row over the killing of a Sikh separatist.
We are concerned by the departure of Canadian diplomats from India, in response to the Indian government's demand of Canada to significantly reduce its diplomatic presence in India, State Department Spokesperson Matthew Miller said.
"Resolving differences requires diplomats on the ground," Miller added.
"We have urged the Indian government not to insist upon a reduction in Canada's diplomatic presence and to cooperate in the ongoing Canadian investigation," the State Department official said.
"We expect India to uphold its obligations under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, including with respect to privileges and immunities enjoyed by accredited members of Canada's diplomatic mission," Miller said.
In New Delhi, the Ministry of External Affairs on Friday rejected Canada's attempt to 'portray' the withdrawal of 41 Canadian diplomats from the country as a violation of international norms.
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Gautam

[bala]

Looks like Trudoodoo is, to borrow a western phrase, "polishing the turd". He first accuses India after being on drugs for the murder/death of a canadian citizen without any clear proof. Next he is upset with India when the external affairs ministry of India calls him out. He does not apologize and correct his stupid behaviour. Then the EAM puts a restriction on the number of canadian diplomats infesting India. Now the drug laden mind thinks India is violating Vienna convention when they are not. He runs to papa for cover and the US puts out a lame statement reiterating resolving differences and urging India to talk to the retarded drug addict in Canada. Tis becoming a media parody with the general people cannot help but laugh madly at Canada and its drug addict PM. I am sure the other 5 eyes team members are smirking and chuckling in private at the doofus Canadian PM. Quick, somebody in Canada needs to admit this PM into a mental hospital and save the rest of Canada from the huge embarrassment.

[srin]

Since US and UK have both supported Canada in opposing the expulsion of 41 diplomats, I can only assume that this lot contained intel operatives and it'd adversely affect the five eyes intel gathering in India. Otherwise, why would they care ?

[Cyrano]

Exactly my reaction. Sub-national engagements are under threat since if they let this pass or make too much noise, India will start enforcing parity with the rest of the Five Blind Men trying to tie down the elephant.

US can exert more pressure because there is always an interminable wait list for visas and H1-B stamping, which Dr SJ fought hard to make the State Dept resolve last year by increasing processing staff in the US. To a lesser extent with the UK. It will hurt business as well which is not the case with Canada.

May be the Khalistanis will simply shift base to US in the future.

I suspect the strongest internal push back will come from our MPs, bureaucrats and even army officers who have a huge % of children studying/working/settling in these 5 blind countries. Hope someone files an RTI to make this data public.

Coming back to Canada, the next step will be for India to start the process to put them in FATF grey list. I'm sure we have ample evidence for that now.

Going overboard on this is as dangerous as freezing Russian assets, will make Govt and people not just in India to do a deep rethink and may actually encourage R2I wave.

[vera_k]

MEA statement is clear. No fig leaf offered.

The state of our bilateral relations, the much higher number of Canadian diplomats in India, and their continued interference in our internal affairs warrant a parity in mutual diplomatic presence in New Delhi and Ottawa.

[drnayar]

Since US and UK have both supported Canada in opposing the expulsion of 41 diplomats, I can only assume that this lot contained intel operatives and it'd adversely affect the five eyes intel gathering in India. Otherwise, why would they care ?

It's not just intelligence gathering ... one just needs to see where "British aid" coming to India and how foundations like usefi as in case of US work in india. They all work at much deeper levels ...

[sanman]

Trudeau now facing a groundswell of pressure to demand Israel halt its offensive on Gaza (exactly what the Iranians would want)
You can be sure that if lefty Trudeau is facing such pressure from within his party, then leftier Jagmeet is getting even more prodding from his leftier voters

SNAKES IN BACKYARD making themselves felt





https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2275519555918

Trudeau Facing Increasing Pressure to Call for Immediate Ceasefire

Dozens of parliamentarians, most from Trudeau’s caucus, have written a letter urging the prime minister to push for an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. That message was echoed during a visit to a Toronto mosque Friday where Trudeau was even booed by some.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... b99fb.html

Canada Scrambles to Help Trapped Citizens in Gaza as Liberal MPs Tell Justin Trudeau to Back Ceasefire Calls
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Those MPs, six of whom serve as parliamentary secretaries, joined opposition New Democrats and Greens in calling for an “immediate ceasefire.”

The government has so far stated that Israel has a right to defend itself against what Trudeau on Friday called “one of the most horrific terrorist attacks on civilians in history,” but that it should do so while respecting international law.

In their letter, the MPs wrote that Canada should show “moral leadership” by calling for the fighting to stop.
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[sanman]

Baby Trudeau's tantrums get ever louder:



Cry harder, Baby Turd!

[g.sarkar]

Since US and UK have both supported Canada in opposing the expulsion of 41 diplomats, I can only assume that this lot contained intel operatives and it'd adversely affect the five eyes intel gathering in India. Otherwise, why would they care ?

The US cares what happens to Canada, irrespective the intel gathering done. Both Canada and Australia are bafadar kuttas historically for the British Empire, and to the US more recently. Both speak English, both are countries that the Anglo-Saxon sent their less bright sons to thrive. Being of the status of a faithful dog, the owner of such kuttas must take care of his dogs at the time of need. While the UK, and now the US reserves the right to administer occasional kicks to enforce discipline, Canada and Australia will not be abandoned to the likes of India and China in the time of need.
Gautam

[sanman]

[sanman]

Now that India has downsized Canada's diplomatic presence to parity levels, we should encourage other countries to do the same to Canadian diplomats, so that they too don't suffer Canadian interference on their soil.
This could be a good way for us to foster cooperation and support among the Global South. It will also give Turdeau & others something else to whine about instead of India.

Note how USA & UK seem to be chiming in on behalf of Canada:

[sanman]

Canadian diplomats hob-knobbing with certain Indian political parties:

[rahulm]

India may take Canada to FATF for inaction on terror funding

Hardening its stance against Canada, India is exploring options to approach the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) over Ottawa’s inaction against terror funding operations on its soil despite New Delhi having shared “credible and clinching” evidence with it umpteen times. India is planning to share a “dossier of the old and new evidence” with the Paris-based watchdog, which oversees the implementation of legal, regulatory and operational measures to combat money laundering and terror financing, The Sunday Guardian has learnt from diplomatic sources here.

[sanman]

This isn't an India-Canada fight, this is a Trudeau-India fight.

[JTull]

Referring to more information that will come out, S Jaishsnkar could be planning the next step on the diplomatic escalation ladder.

[williams]

Every soft and unsubstantial punch that India receives will be countered by a hard punch. The next stop is FATF.

[Amber G.]

Canadian Opposition Leader On Row With India:

Trudeau Not Worth The Cost' ..after eight long years .. and that he is considered a laughing stock in India.. Biden treats him like a door mat and slapshim around like a rag doll

[sanjaykumar]

One thing about jaishanker. There’s no bull$hitting.

[vinod]

Since US and UK have both supported Canada in opposing the expulsion of 41 diplomats, I can only assume that this lot contained intel operatives and it'd adversely affect the five eyes intel gathering in India. Otherwise, why would they care ?

Yes, next india needs to watch out these rise in activities of other embassies. Since, this work has to be reallocated to others. An increase in personnel in other embassies should be watched.

[sanman]

[A_Gupta]

Of the allegations Canada has hurled at India, the simplest one to evaluate is the claim that India violated the Vienna Convention on diplomats. Since that is patently absurd, what does this say about the quality of the allegations where Canada is not making the intelligence/evidence public?

Another question is why is the US seemingly unconcerned about the Chinese hand in Canada?

[sanman]

Of the allegations Canada has hurled at India, the simplest one to evaluate is the claim that India violated the Vienna Convention on diplomats. Since that is patently absurd, what does this say about the quality of the allegations where Canada is not making the intelligence/evidence public?

Turdeau's govt aren't the type to admit any wrong or take responsibility on anything -- so the other side will always be reflexively blamed.

Another question is why is the US seemingly unconcerned about the Chinese hand in Canada?

Biden's govt is Left-leaning, just like Turdeau's is. From what I can tell, China prefers Lefty Biden over tougher Trump being in Whitehouse, and likewise prefers Lefty Trudeau over his conservative opponents.
Thus by reciprocity, Biden & Turdeau will be softer on China, even while feeling free to take some potshots at India, which is a lesser power compared to China.
In other words, domestic political considerations rule over actual national interest. It's like Congress Party mentality, but manifesting itself in first world.

[g.sarkar]

https://sundayguardianlive.com/top-five ... or-funding
India may take Canada to FATF for inaction on terror funding
T BRAJESH, October 22, 2023
Hardening its stance against Canada, India is exploring options to approach the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) over Ottawa’s inaction against terror funding operations on its soil despite New Delhi having shared “credible and clinching” evidence with it umpteen times. India is planning to share a “dossier of the old and new evidence” with the Paris-based watchdog, which oversees the implementation of legal, regulatory and operational measures to combat money laundering and terror financing, The Sunday Guardian has learnt from diplomatic sources here.
“Canada acquiescing to India’s demand to reduce its diplomatic strength by 41 is not enough as India’s key concern is about funding and shielding of Khalistanis on Canadian soil,” a source said, adding, “diplomats, security and probe agency officials have been asked to collect relevant evidence to be shared with the FATF.” “The core issue in India’s relationship with Canada is the safe space that terrorists and criminal elements have secured in that country.” This recent statement from the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) spokesperson, Arindam Bagchi, is enough to highlight India’s major concern and priority in the ties between New Delhi and Ottawa.
“With Canada seeking to divert the focus from the core issue of Khalistani elements having a free run on its soil, India has no other option but to report Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s inaction against pro-Khalistan elements in his country to FATF. India is, therefore, planning to collect evidence of terror funding and financing emanating from Canada and present it to FATF,” a person aware of the development told The Sunday Guardian.
According to diplomatic officials here, the Trudeau government is trying to divert the attention of the global community from the core issue of terror activities by accusing India of escalation and violating the Vienna Convention regarding Canadian diplomatic presence. In fact, India immediately rejected Canada’s allegations, explaining its position powerfully. At the same time, the Indian government decided to ensure that the core issue of terror funding on Canadian soil is not relegated to the background.
India has already come down heavily on Canada for “providing safe haven to terrorists” amid souring of diplomatic relations between New Delhi and Ottawa over the killing of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar. The MEA spokesperson said the larger issue was that of terrorism, terror-funding and safe havens being provided to terrorists abroad. “Terrorism is being funded and supported by our western neighbour Pakistan, but the issue of safe havens and places to operate are being provided abroad, including in Canada,” Baghchi said.
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Gautam

[Tanaji]

Trudeaus government in true Leftist fashion is allowing attacks on Jews as well

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/ ... ring-1930s

[vimal]

Trudeaus government in true Leftist fashion is allowing attacks on Jews as well

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/ ... ring-1930s

Demography is destiny.

[sanman]

329 people were killed in the Air India 182 bombing -- 268 of them were Canadian citizens (their lives worth less than Nijjar's, of course)

[A_Gupta]

The US is cozying up to India based on anti-China, so tolerating Chinese interference next door does not make sense.

[sanman]

The US is cozying up to India based on anti-China, so tolerating Chinese interference next door does not make sense.

Biden admin cosying up to Iran, then sending aircraft carrier to warn same Iran.

Lefties are less rational, and don't like to admit the contradictions in their political leanings and compromises, which they instinctively cling to for domestic political survival.

[sanman]

Should we re-open Kanishka?

[A_Gupta]

Biden was getting hostages released from Iran, not cozying up to it.
Anyhow,
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/23/ca ... espionage/
Why Did Trudeau Dawdle on Chinese Election Meddling?
A new inquiry may expose Beijing’s reach in Ottawa.

Really long. From September 23rd
Excerpts:

1. Canadian intelligence consistently ignored by the politicians.

After months of resisting the idea, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced a major public inquiry tasked with investigating how China has meddled in Canadian politics.

Canada’s intelligence agencies have been warning for decades that China is running covert affairs inside Canada. And, for just as long, there has been a dogged rejection of those warnings from politicians who see China as key to Canada’s economic future—or who fear alienating ethnically Chinese voters.

There was a 1997 report from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS)—responsible for espionage and counterespionage efforts in the country—and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, warning that a confluence of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials, organized crime bosses, and business tycoons were cooperating to infiltrate Canadian businesses and steal intellectual property and “interfere in the management of the country.”
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But Ottawa didn’t want to hear it. A final version of that 1997 report was sanitized, and the direct allegations against Beijing were removed.

...in 2010, the head of CSIS tried to raise those concerns again, teasing that there were sitting politicians “who we think are under at least the general influence of a foreign government.” For that, he was excoriated.

In the years that followed, evidence of Chinese operations mounted. There were accusations that Chinese state news agency Xinhua was trying to spy on the Dalai Lama’s trip to Ottawa and a suggestion it directed the seduction of one member of parliament. There is a credible allegation that Chinese spies bugged the offices of former telecommunications giant Nortel, using the ill-gotten technology to launch Huawei. There was a Beijing-backed hack of a government research facility, and an espionage effort run out of Vancouver to steal F-35 fighter jet secrets.

He may not have acknowledged it publicly, but Trudeau and his government were being briefed consistently about the threat posed by Chinese meddling.
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“When I first became aware of the significance of the threat posed by outside interference to our democratic institutions,” an anonymous national security official wrote in the pages of the Globe and Mail in March this year, “I worked—as have many unnamed and tireless colleagues—to equip our leaders with the knowledge and the tools needed to take action against it.”

Two elections came and went, the official wrote, and it became “increasingly clear that no serious action was being considered. Worse still, evidence of senior public officials ignoring interference was beginning to mount.”

The official provided ample documentation to the Globe highlighting the contours of this plot. Complimentary revelations appeared in the Global News. Broadly, the two news outlets reported a concerted and clandestine effort by the Chinese government to help politicians friendly to Beijing and hurt those who were more skeptical.

2. Trudeaus' record with China:

China and Canada have been friendly since then-Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau established relations with Beijing in 1970—two years before then-U.S. President Richard Nixon went to China.

Question - if Canada had ties with China, did they do so via Pakistan? Why did Nixon use Yahya Khan as his go-between with China if he could have used Canada?

By the 1990s, about two percent of Canadians were either Chinese-born or descended from Chinese immigrants. (That percentage would more than double by the 2000s.)
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Trudeau was up for reelection for the first time in 2019 and came out ahead—albeit with a severely reduced majority and a hung Parliament. He went back to the electorate two years later, in 2021, and got almost exactly the same result. Over the course of the two elections, Trudeau continued to take a softer line on China, at least in contrast to the hawkish Conservative Party. In the first election, the Conservatives wanted a “reset” on Canada’s China policy, refocused on human rights and fighting unfair trade practices. In the next race, they proposed a more complete decoupling. And in two successive elections, the Conservative vote declined in jurisdictions with large Chinese Canadian populations. “When you keep attacking China, it sometimes translates as attacking the Chinese community,” Joe Li, a municipal politician, told the National Post at the time.

So like the vote-bank with Khalistanis, vote back with Chinese-origin.

... when Trudeau first ran for high office, he did so on a plan to deepen trade ties with Beijing—in contrast to his predecessor, who had taken a more cautious approach. Trudeau fixed his gaze on an elusive project: becoming the first country in the G-7 to sign a full free-trade deal with Beijing.

Trudeau made his first visit to China in 2016, less than a year after his election. There, he gifted Chinese President Xi Jinping a medallion of Norman Bethune, a Canadian surgeon and personal friend of CCP leader Mao Zedong. It was identical to a medallion that Trudeau’s father, as prime minister, gifted Mao himself in 1973.

His government began negotiating an extradition deal to deport alleged money launderers back to China. In 2017, Trudeau sent a junior minister to Beijing to attend the first-ever Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation. And Ottawa purchased 1 percent of the shares in the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, set up to finance much of the Belt and Road Initiative’s work. (Ottawa has committed itself to about $1 billion, but has only paid in around $200 million.)

...Chinese firms moved to acquire a port in Churchill, Manitoba, and a gold mine in Hope Bay, Nunavut, which sits right along the Northwest Passage, soon to be navigable year-round.

For advice on how to get these deals done, Trudeau turned to groups such as the Canada China Business Council (CCBC), helmed by the powerful Desmarais family, owners of the Power Corporation of Canada—a major energy business that is also a minority shareholder in one of China’s largest mutual funds. The council itself is made up of Chinese companies such as Huawei and Canadian firms such as Teck Resources, which once boasted a member of China’s National People’s Congress on its board.

Trudeau appointed the CCBC head, Peter Harder, to the Senate of Canada in 2016. Both he and CCBC informed Ottawa’s China policies throughout Trudeau’s time in power.

Trudeau’s first mandate was a flurry of negotiations and relations-building exercises, meant to position Canada as China’s key ally in the West. Washington’s hawkish tone on Beijing did little to dissuade Ottawa, as diversifying Canada’s economy away from the United States was explicitly part of the reason for cozying up to China.

Right up until December 2018, it seemed that Canada was managing to thread the needle with China. The United States was taking a cautious approach, informed by waves of intellectual property theft, trade grievances, and security fears in the Indo-Pacific; and Europe was a jumble of competing interests. Ottawa had the natural resources to sell, and a nearly limitless desire for investment capital.

But then the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, on a warrant from U.S. officials, arrested Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou. The daughter of the company’s founder, and herself its chief financial officer, Wanzhou was accused of violating U.S. sanctions on Iran.

Nine days later, China arrested two Canadian citizens: Michael Kovrig, a former diplomat; and Michael Spavor, an entrepreneur. Beijing accused them of espionage.

The ensuing diplomatic spat—which lasted until Meng’s case was dismissed in 2021, precipitating Kovrig and Spavor’s release not long after—put much of the Canada-China relationship building on ice.

Talking points prepared for government ministers shifted from lauding the economic opportunity of better ties to Beijing to highlighting the “unprecedented crisis.” The extradition deal, once a priority, became a “challenge.” Publicly, Ottawa began calling out what had become a well-documented genocide in Xinjiang. The free trade deal was off the table, for now.

At the G-7 summit, Trudeau proposed that the world’s richest countries ought to form a bulwark against this kind of foreign meddling. Under the plan, each country would set up its own “rapid response mechanism,” creating a mesh network designed to identify and expose those interference efforts before they could do real damage.

The mechanism would be, a joint communique boasted, “strong action in response to foreign actors who seek to undermine our democratic societies and institutions, our electoral processes, and our sovereignty.”

At home, Trudeau took it a step further: He created the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections (SITE) task force, a team of senior bureaucratic and intelligence officials tasked with identifying foreign meddling efforts and alerting the public.

Yet from the outset, it seemed Ottawa’s focus was almost exclusively on Russian interference.

Since SIGINT came up with respect to India - see the detail here compared to the total non-information with respect to allegations about India:

But the leaks revealed that CSIS had, in fact, intercepted a conversation between Zhang and Chinese diplomats discussing a plan to make the donation and to have the Chinese government repay that hefty sum, according to a security source who spoke to the Globe.

What’s more, CSIS had obtained intelligence suggesting that Chinese operatives, including diplomat Zhao Wei, were collecting information on at least two members of parliament, including Conservative Michael Chong and Jenny Kwan, a member of the New Democratic Party. The aim, CSIS believed, was to threaten those members’ families in China in order to cow the members into silence on matters regarding Beijing’s human rights record.
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The spies felt they had identified the threat but were being held back from tackling it.

But Ottawa still has a fundamental problem: China has spent decades intimidating Canada’s citizens, stealing its intellectual property, and meddling in its politics. That campaign reached feverish new heights over the past few years. Today, even after a national panic over it, Ottawa seems bewildered as to how it could thwart such efforts in the future.

Some of the best advice came from Johnston. “One of the most important ways to counter foreign interference is for the public to understand what it looks like and how to be resilient against it,” he wrote in the report. “The public is often on the ‘front lines’ of foreign interference activities, as private citizens and the public at large can be the targets of foreign interference activities.”

Yet that is the opposite approach from the one taken by Ottawa. Rather than alerting the public to this meddling effort, it kept it secret. And despite knowing the culprits, Canada has been slow and reticent to lay criminal charges: It laid its first-ever criminal case for economic espionage just last year, against a researcher accused of stealing secrets from a state energy company. The FBI, for the United States’ part, has charged dozens of alleged Chinese agents with harassment, intellectual property theft, and spying.

[Haresh]

A former CSIS agent

https://twitter.com/1DanStanton/status/ ... 3284724851

[Cyrano]

Christine Fair comes alive after a long time, but none the wiser !

[sanman]

A former CSIS agent

https://twitter.com/1DanStanton/status/ ... 3284724851

former CSIS agent & Eric Clapper Wanna-Be

Christine Fair comes alive after a long time, but none the wiser !

That lady is a flake - she's put out all kinds of different articles in the past several weeks, each one going in an opposing direction.
Given enough time, she'll blame Donald Trump for this mess too.

[A_Gupta]

Some history, from "Reawakening Canada's China Policy", 2007, Bruce Gilley, Professor, Department of Political Studies, Queen's University.

Public opinion towards relations with China was warmed after the Canada Wheat Board sold a large lot of wheat and barley to China in 1960 worth CA$60 million (the equivalent of CA$420 million today, or eight percent of its total annual exports). The reason for this sale, of course, was that Mao had imposed upon China the largest famine in human history. As Canadian Wheat Board officials gleefully crunched their numbers and the Winnipeg Free Press proclaimed commercial salvation for the country, Mao’s famine was in the process of killing between 30 and 40 million people. That unprecedented human disaster led to grain sales which helped public opinion in Canada to get over its Cold War “problem.”

Pierre Trudeau’s own motivations in opening links to Beijing, meanwhile, were formed during a visit to China that same year, 1960. Like the French philosopher Michael Foucault – who praised Maoist China as having formed an “intimacy” between party and people and who later engaged in a bizarre flirtation with the Iranian Revolution (Afary, Anderson, and Foucault 2005; Foucault 1980) – Trudeau harboured a deeply illiberal admiration for Mao’s China. In Deux Innocents en Chine Rouge, later issued as Two Innocents in Red China (Trudeau and Hebert 1968; Trudeau and Herbert 1961), Trudeau and his traveling companion described a fantasyland where prisons were lined with “fine fragrant trees” and where “the Chinese are recovering their human dignity.” The greatest famine in human history was reaching its awful height just as Trudeau and company traveled around China, yet our future prime minister sees only tables groaning under corn cake and spinach. There was some “controlled distribution of foodstuffs” in some places, he admits, but this was nothing compared to the past famines under the pre-1949 governments. Why should Westerners believe “the absurdities related by their newspapers”? {Footnote: Trudeau admitted that “we would see only what the authorities would let us see” and their claims were “often outrageous” or “disingenuous”. “Yet we cannot compel ourselves to believe that it is simply a matter of lying”.} Trudeau, to my knowledge, never apologized for his flippant descriptions of Maoist China.

[sanman]

A former CSIS agent

https://twitter.com/1DanStanton/status/ ... 3284724851

the "ex-CSIS" guy seems to be very buddy-buddy with Khalistanis on Twitter

https://twitter.com/1DanStanton/status/ ... 2450240957

[Pratyush]

The more I look at Canada, the more convinced i get. That the Canadians have decided to act as a non state actors for the US state department.

The state department itself cannot overtly or even covertly support breaking India forces.

It it they have decided to use Trudeau as their useful idiot.

While they act as monkey balancers.

[chetak]

The more I look at Canada, the more convinced i get. That the Canadians have decided to act as a non state actors for the US state department.

The state department itself cannot overtly or even covertly support breaking India forces.

It it they have decided to use Trudeau as their useful idiot.

While they act as monkey balancers.

Pratyush ji,


The state department itself has been overtly or even covertly supporting breaking India forces over the past 70 odd years. They act in conjunction with the culinary institute. The entire NE has been decimated by these guys and even now they push and prod India over "religious" freedom, "democracy" and "rules based international order" and the latest attack is over the same sex marriage issue after the harvard award winner backed off after realizing that the matter was way beyond him.

same sex marriage is an issue that the SD, filled with wokes, creeps and abrahamic fundamentalists, see as their own grand agenda to destroy Sanātana Dharma.

USCIRF is their own home grown pet rabid dog, nurtured, and unleashed at will...................

[sanman]

The more I look at Canada, the more convinced i get. That the Canadians have decided to act as a non state actors for the US state department.

The state department itself cannot overtly or even covertly support breaking India forces.

It it they have decided to use Trudeau as their useful idiot.

While they act as monkey balancers.

We need to do Pokhran-3, in order to improve our strategic autonomy. If the US tries to go after us over this, then they can ask the Khalistan navy to help them patrol the South China Sea instead of us. Let's see how well that works out for them.

All this talk of waiting until we achieve $5Trillion economy ignores the fact that gathering threats aren't waiting for our timetable. We haven't done anything to stoke up Khalistan or provoke tensions on the China border -- it's others who are doing this. Thanks to these other malign actors, we're going to get sucker-punched before $5T economy happens. We'd therefore better act before then.

[sanman]

China mounted a "spam campaign" targeting particular Canadian MPs, including Trudeau