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Jay wrote: 20 Nov 2023 21:49 Dubey ji, in politics "hai himmat" strategy does not usually work and if that's the attitude then they need to ditch politics and find another profession. If you want ramaswamy to be an unabashed hindu and project his hinduism in a republican setting, he might as well burn his dollars and retire now.
Currently it is foolish for an actual Hindu to run for US President. Even a Jew (who is actually part of "Judeo-Xtian" system and could be backed by a lot of money) has no chance of being president. The society needs widespread adoption of bharatiya sanskriti at a grassroots level first, in which case a Hindu president could be in future a natural occurrence. It is a long road that requires decades of dedication.

No need to "ditch politics", but instead start working at the grassroots. Ramalingam is not interested in that, he is another opportunistic businessman who wants to use a combination of smooth talking and money to fool the Xtian electorate. With a 7% approval in the republican primaries, it clearly won't work.

In many US states, organized action by "unabashed Hindus" at grassroots levels is leading to much more effective and significant change. "Hai himmat" works.
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KL Dubey wrote: 21 Nov 2023 02:23 In many US states, organized action by "unabashed Hindus" at grassroots levels is leading to much more effective and significant change. "Hai himmat" works.
I think I'm acutely unaware of such a grassroots level efforts by Hindus in US for any public positions. Do you know of any Hindu candidates who won an election by being unabashedly Hindu?
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Jay wrote: 21 Nov 2023 05:31
KL Dubey wrote: 21 Nov 2023 02:23 In many US states, organized action by "unabashed Hindus" at grassroots levels is leading to much more effective and significant change. "Hai himmat" works.
I think I'm acutely unaware of such a grassroots level efforts by Hindus in US for any public positions. Do you know of any Hindu candidates who won an election by being unabashedly Hindu?
Read the post again. "Organized action leading to change" does not equate to "putting up a hindu candidate".
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-thw ... 023-11-22/

USA apparently thwarts plot to kill SFJ president Panun. Warns India in a diplomatic note. Inditement served to 1 person in New York.
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Looks like a vehicle explosion closed a US-Canada border crossing (Rainbow bridge), waiting for the Paki angle to emerge.

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/us/veh ... 425138.cms
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this news is over two months old

US nuclear bombs are making a comeback in Britain, ending a 15-year absence.

RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk, toured by Deputy Defence Secretary Kathleen Hicks, preps for their return.

A £39.5million troop dormitory is underway, hinting at nuclear "surety" operations.

This move revives the Cold War-era B61 nuclear bombs, once withdrawn in 2008.

US Air Force's F-15E Strike Eagles at Lakenheath could be the carriers, reinforcing US' strategic presence in Europe.

Source: The Daily Telegraph.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... ays-russia
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The letter, allegedly written by bin Laden’s #2, the late Ayman al-Zawahiri, was al-Qaeda’s justification for attacking America on 11 September 2001. In the letter, bin Laden declared that America was attacked because of the oppression of the Palestinians by Israel, made possible by America; for stealing the oil from Muslim countries; occupying Muslim lands with miliary forces; and, being hypocrites for preaching freedom and democracy but “for [the] white race only.” Bin Laden didn’t just blame American leaders, but also the American people who elect the oppressive governments, and whose taxes pay for the military that oppresses the Muslims.
Well, that’s because The Establishment hasn’t given them any reason to be trusted. The government and its media acolytes were the cheerleaders for the 2003 invasion of on Iraq which was based on lies: that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, and that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was cooperating with bin Laden’s al-Qaeda terrorist group. The cost of the Iraq war: about $3 trillion according to Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel prize-winner in economics, 4,492 dead U.S. troops, and over 200,000 dead Iraqi civilians. (Total direct deaths of the post 9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen are about 940,000.)

Then there’s Afghanistan.

According to the Afghanistan Papers exposé senior American officials knew the U.S.-led NATO campaign was failing, but they kept it going for almost 20 years until the Taliban victoriously entered Kabul on 15 August 2021. The U.S. finally departed on 30 August, but not before an Islamic State suicide bomber killed 13 U.S. service members, 12 of them aged 25 and under. The cost: over $2 trillion, over 2,300 dead U.S. troops, and about 100,000 dead Afghan civilians, including opposition fighters, many of whom joined the opposition due to U.S. abuses.

In 2011, the U.S. led the attack on Libya and destroyed the functioning government that was cooperating with Washington, and kicked off a migrant wave that upended politics in Europe. U.S. troops are still in Syria because mumble-mumble terrorism, though the Islamic State was defeated in 2018. Then it was All Aboard! to fight the Russians in Ukraine, but then the U.S. political class and media dropped Ukraine when Israel was attacked by Hamas.
After all that pessimism, or maybe adding to it, young Americans have departed from their elders’ reflexive support for anything Israel does. According to a CNN poll, asked whether Israel’s response to the Hamas attack was fully justified, only 27 percent of Americans aged 18-34 agreed, as opposed to 81 percent of Americans over age 65. This is likely due to both existing distrust of the media and government, and what is known as “networked tribalism,” the rapid development of empathy and kinship with others via online media, resulting in maximalist thinking where opposing sides can’t even agree on basic facts.

In short, bin Laden predicted that America would impoverish itself while it created more enemies than it killed. The U.S. blew over $8 trillion on the post 9-11 wars, most of it borrowed from China, and its national debt will soon exceed $34 trillion dollars, but the leaders who lied to promote the wars won’t be around to pay the tab, leaving that to a resentful and disillusioned young Americans, fertile ground for extremist sentiment. And, hopefully, Washington will come to understand that most of the world failed to support its campaigns in Ukraine and Israel-Gaza because of its heedless waste of money and lives, most of them not American.
And knowing they were lied to may explain the failure of the military to attract enough qualified recruits, which is part of a long-term trend of “historically low faith in U.S. institutions” reported by Gallup. Who wants to be the cannon fodder in the next war fought for dubious “American interests” when you can be sure no one named Bush or Obama will be in that trench with you?

Gen Z members suffer from high levels of depression and anxiety and are most likely to report their mental health as being poor, according to the American Psychological Association. Poor mental health, a bad education, a lack of trust in institutions, and the sense their economic prospects are limited and the American Dream is out of reach, are what’s needed to create a population susceptible to thinking bin Laden was an anti-imperialist who had a point when he said, “Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people.”
there are legitimate concerns in us on the question of who will fight all the wars for peace and liberate oppressed peoples inhabiting every square inch on earth, twitter users must be immediately discarded, peoples who have expertise in multiple areas such as politics, military strategy, armaments, logistics, deployment, medicine, sports and mass media entertainment are obviously the officer class of the next wars, plebian non-users will be enlisted for grunt work
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Elon Musk reacts to advertiser boycotts:

"If somebody is gonna try to blackmail me with money… Go f*ck yourself."

Host is stunned and speechless.

Elon repeats: "Go f*ck yourself."


WATCH VIDEO1


WATCH VIDEO2
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I'm very gratified that Dinesh D'Souza is speaking up in favour of Vivek Ramaswamy:



there's something very Right about this
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Ramaswamy then held up a sign which read “Nikki=Corrupt” while saying “This is a woman who will send your kids to die so she can buy a bigger house. This is the problem…using identity politics more effectively than Kamala Harris is a form of intellectual fraud.” Ramaswamy went on to “reject” the use of identity politics saying that “having two X chromosomes doesn’t immunize you from criticism.”

“I don’t have a woman problem. You have a corruption problem and I think that that's what people need to know. Nikki is corrupt.”

In the last Republican debate, Ramaswamy had called the South Caroline Governor “Dick Cheney in 3-inch heels” while accusing her of being a warmonger.

“This is a woman who will send your kids to die so she can buy a bigger house.

Brutal

“Reid Hoffman, the person who is effectively George Soros Jr., funding lawsuits across this country against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot, funding left-wing causes, we discovered this week that he is one of Nikki Haley’s largest supporters,” Ramaswamy said.

This comes after it was reported that Reid Hoffman gave USD 250,000 to a Nikki Haley Super Political Action Committee (PAC).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PpIwZNlBAE



Watch full: NewsNation hosts fourth GOP primary debate



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Ramaswamy's goose is cooked for 2024 but he may come out of this with a much bigger profile and a genuine shot at 2028 if he keeps his wits about him

Trump holds too much of a sway with the repubs for anyone else to be a worthy challenger and he won't want anything less than a complete yes man for VP having being burnt ( in his own head at least) when Pence didn't stand with him on Jan 6/confirmation hearings.

I'm afraid for the all talk, excitement, drama about debates it's gonna end up Biden v Trump 2.0
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AkshaySG wrote: 08 Dec 2023 19:41 Ramaswamy's goose is cooked for 2024 but he may come out of this with a much bigger profile and a genuine shot at 2028 if he keeps his wits about him

Trump holds too much of a sway with the repubs for anyone else to be a worthy challenger and he won't want anything less than a complete yes man for VP having being burnt ( in his own head at least) when Pence didn't stand with him on Jan 6/confirmation hearings.

I'm afraid for the all talk, excitement, drama about debates it's gonna end up Biden v Trump 2.0


AkshaySG saar,


Ramaswamy is smart, ambitious, and credible.


He is bucking to be trump's running mate but hedging his bets as he goes along......

pence notwithstanding, trump needs someone who is smart, clean, business savvy, and combative on his side and batting for him
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This week an Ex US intelligence officer warned VR to be very very careful...
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/09/us/u ... d1f73a0be4

Penn’s Leadership Resigns Amid Controversies Over Antisemitism

The president, Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of the board of trustees, Scott L. Bok, are leaving after intense pressure from donors, politicians and alumni.


Penn’s Leadership Resigns Amid Controversies Over Antisemitism
The president, Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of the board of trustees, Scott L. Bok, are leaving after intense pressure from donors, politicians and alumni.

Mr. Bok said that Ms. Magill, who became Penn’s president last year, would remain as the university’s leader until an interim president is chosen. She will also stay at Penn as a faculty member in the law school. Mr. Bok’s resignation took effect immediately, and the vice chair of Penn’s board, Julie Platt, assumed his post on an interim basis.

Ms. Platt, who chairs the Jewish Federations of North America’s board, is not expected to lead the Penn board permanently.
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https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/17 ... 0870233164
Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray
CNN’s Fareed Zakaria slams wokeness at US universities. “American universities have been neglecting a core focus on excellence in order to pursue a variety of agenda, many of them clustered around ‘diversity’ and ‘inclusion’.”
If Zakaria is speaking that means, deep state is worried and sending a message
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This week @Yale changed the name of a popular food item in their dining halls which has been on the menu for years. It’s called “Israeli Couscous Salad” and they removed the word “Israeli.”

Why would they do that.........

Here’s the before and after:




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^^^What a wimpish cave-in !
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The pakistani origin nominee will be a worthy addition to the US judicial system for sure...

Hawley Asks Nom Over & Over For Take On Anti-Israel Statement, Can't Get Answer

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Manish_P wrote: 14 Dec 2023 11:12 The pakistani origin nominee will be a worthy addition to the US judicial system for sure...

Hawley Asks Nom Over & Over For Take On Anti-Israel Statement, Can't Get Answer

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What a weirdo!
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https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/sta ... 8126667215

In a conversation with Google founder Sergey Brin, founder of the WEF, Klaus Schwab, delights at the thought of a future without elections:
"Digital technologies mainly have an analytical power. Now [we're going] into a predictive power, and your company is very much involved in it. But then the next step could be to go into prescriptive mode, which means you do not even have to have elections anymore, because we know what the result will be."
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No whites party. WTF?
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Trump disqualified from Colorado ballot:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67768873

Regardless of what one’s politics is, preventing someone from being on the ballot and standing from election is similar to what happens in banana republics or Africa. The whole “he took part in insurrection” bit is strange since he hasn’t been convicted and sentenced by a court of law yet!

So much freedom…
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MSNBC, a routine vicious critic of Trump, has a rare lucid moment in recognizing that Trump's popularity is rising not diminishing:



Good. Trump is better for America, Trump is better for the world, and Trump is better for us too.
Trump is far better than these machiavellian globalists.
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Michigan Supreme Court has rejected an attempt to remove Trump from the State's 2024 Republican Primary Ballot.



https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/27/poli ... index.html


Michigan Supreme Court rejects ‘insurrectionist ban’ case and keeps Trump on 2024 primary ballot
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‘insurrectionist ban’ case and Trump
The election for bidenwa was a stage managed stealing of votes by the deep state operatives in America. Everyone in America were surprised that a sheer bumbling idiot/openly laughed at for his gaffes Bidenwa (and even worse the highly incompetent Kamala) was the El Presidente. The victim was Trump and quite naturally there was a revolt. Being a democracy it is natural, there was no insurrection, it is very hard in the US to overthrow systems. So the next best thing for deep state operatives is to blame the victim - standard operating practice. One of the states where there was rigging of votes is Georgia in the south, there are ongoing court battles on Trump.

Trump is relatively speaking quite an innocent US President compared to the previous lot including both Dumbocrats and Republicans. He was needlessly victimized many times. The Russia collusion business (which is completely fake managed by the deep state) led to impeachment trials. Now that Ukraine happened under Bidenwa we clearly see what the deep state operatives are scheming for the world at large.

In conclusion there was no insurrection, it was a deep state treachery of the highest kind. In any other country these deep state actors would be hanged publicly.
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I watched the whole episode livecast as it happened, Trump did make provocative and inciting statements that day. The crowds of his supporters did overwhelm Capitol security people, it looked like a few shots could lead to a massive blood bath any moment. Congress was in session and many inside were scared shitless. How a huge disaster was averted can be debated, there could have been hidden state agents among the crowds, or may be not.

But Trump was a sore loser at that point, surrounded by a bunch of idiot lawyers, Rudy included and made a mistake by saying what he said before and by not asking his supporters to show the threat but stand down - which IMO would have been a much smarter move.

The election could have been rigged, but Trump was and is barking up the wrong trees.

And all that makes for a poor image for a second term potus.

That bidenwa is a dolt doesn't salvage Trump.
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Nikki Haley doesn't know what Slavery was in America - ie. seems to lack basic knowledge of US history:



She could've just said states' rights, which is what Southerners like to say - but she couldn't even do that

What a tourist.
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watched the whole episode livecast
Cyrano Saar, that episode is controlled by Deep State, the instigators were deep state operatives and dumbocrats, the so called livecast is controlled by them. This is another SOP by the deep state. They wanted a blood bath and provided the required camphor/fire wood to the scene. One false utterance would have started the carnage but it did not happen, why? People outside the US don't understand what happens during a normal protest can be ignited by actors behind the scene. Protests happen all the time in the US on some issue or other. The employees of a hospital suddenly take to the street for better pay and everyone thinks the hospital is not working. Far from it, the hospital works. Please reflect that a carnage did not happen, people understand protests but going to the next step they are not into such things since they know there would be swift punishment.

Bottom line Bidenwa did not win the election but was hoisted upon the people of the US by the Deep State. The duplicitous deep state is upto its tricks once again. WRT to India it recently met with the Puki Dictator Army Chief Munir, that tells you in a nutshell what they think of the India relationship.

BTW just in, Colorado has reversed its position - Trump to appear on Ballot. This is after Michigan stated the same.
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Bottom line Bidenwa did not win the election but was hoisted upon the people of the US by the Deep State.
Are we saying that biden did not win elections in 2020?

Also, trump and his campaign lost all the lawsuits and legal challenges they launched in all the states, republican and democrat alike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-elec ... l_election

I understand that the nature of elections and democracy means we will have leaders we do not agree with nor we like. But these TrUmP wOn - BiDeN lOsT, dEeP StAtE knows and plans all claims are pure conspiracy theory's at this point.
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Jay wrote: 29 Dec 2023 22:07
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>> Are we saying that biden did not win elections in 2020?

YES!

>> Also, trump and his campaign lost all the lawsuits and legal challenges they launched in all the states, republican and democrat alike.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-elec ... l_election

Citing legal cases is a lost cause since the legal system in the US will staunchly defend their election practices whether they be dumbocrats or republicans. No one in the legal system will admit to flaws in their system.

The trick employed by the Deep State was the mail-in ballots, which many in the US prefer rather than going to booths to vote. In fact after Covid/Kungflu many avoided going in public for fear of catching the dreaded disease of China.
Mail-in ballots will be used to enlist all the illegal immigrants from Mexico and elsewhere. Going forward the US election system is filled with holes.
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A reminder: Do not bring in irrelevant-to-India political analysis rooted on personal preferences here, please!
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The trick employed by the Deep State was the mail-in ballots, which many in the US prefer rather than going to booths to vote. Going forward the US election system is filled with holes.
In essence to understand the US, all we need to do is understand how deep state works and interacts with India? If this is the focus then we will definitely fail in our analysis of understanding US and put forward our interests.
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