Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[SRajesh]

No he is Masood Azhar
This is a different fellow.

[madhu]

Unknown Gunmen send Masood Azhar to 72 Hoors | Pakistan Blames India | Sumit Peer in Jaipur Diaglogues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUuGkr9nU4I

personally i do not believe Sumit Peer. He just takes the info from twitter/ papers and gives us back same info is a different way. In comparison to him, i prefer Dr.RV as it is fun to listen to him or AIM as he gives his thoughts, may be correct or wrong but he attempts to give his analysis unlike Sumit Peer.

[A_Gupta]

Terroristan is now also Terrifiedistan.

These terrorists who were killed - does the Pak press refer to them as shahid?

[morem]

Unknown Gunmen send Masood Azhar to 72 Hoors | Pakistan Blames India | Sumit Peer in Jaipur Diaglogues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUuGkr9nU4I

personally i do not believe Sumit Peer. He just takes the info from twitter/ papers and gives us back same info is a different way. In comparison to him, i prefer Dr.RV as it is fun to listen to him or AIM as he gives his thoughts, may be correct or wrong but he attempts to give his analysis unlike Sumit Peer.

Sumeet Peer is highly prone to exggeration. I have stopped watching his videos. He kind of ruined P-gurus for me.

[sidp]

Yes, Sumeet Peer is like baba banaras of youtube. All hyperboles.

[RCase]

Terroristan is now also Terrifiedistan.

These terrorists who were killed - does the Pak press refer to them as shahid?

Sirji - Pakistan does not have terrorists! Don't you remember rad-ul-fasad, zarb-e-azb etc. Pak fauj eliminated all terrorists and suffered billions of dollar losses (which the world needs to repay)! It is a very pissful country. If there are no terrorists, then how can they be killed shaheed?

[RCase]

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Need to add another newly minted tanzeem - TJP (tehreek e jihad pakistan) - that the Pak Fauj has been dropping its pants to.

[partha]

Oh wow!! Munir doctrine is already making an impact!

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40282738 ... microscope

ISLAMABAD: The Federal Cabinet is all set to approve establishment of Performance Management Units (PMUs) in five high loss-making power Distribution Companies (Discos) under a serving Brigadier of Pak Army as dismal performance of Discos has made the sector unsustainable, sources close to caretaker Minister for Power and Petroleum told Business Recorder.

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[Manish_P]

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Sirji - Pakistan does not have terrorists! Don't you remember rad-ul-fasad, zarb-e-azb etc. Pak fauj eliminated all terrorists and suffered billions of dollar losses (which the world needs to repay)! It is a very pissful country. If there are no terrorists, then how can they be killed shaheed?

All the killed are Ajints. US, Yehuda, yindoo...

The terrorists are the live ones for whom the Pak fauj has to spend so much effort to search. The US and west has to give aid as reimbursement.

And it is this delicate balancing for which the Jernails award themselves with medals

[partha]

Expectation: https://www.dawn.com/news/1774148

Gen Asim Munir also assured businessmen of bringing $25-30bn investment from Qatar and Kuwait in his next visit to improve the country’s economy. He said that he would try to bring a total of $75-100bn investment from Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Kuwait.

Reality: https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/114640 ... t-rollover

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has been negotiating with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) for the provision of an additional $1 billion Saudi Oil Facility (SOF) on deferred payment for the ongoing calendar year 2024.

New year but same old sh!t.

[MeshaVishwas]

Must watch.
The Butcher of Balochistan candidly and with utter contempt talks about a "solution on the battlefield" as far as Baloch nationalists are concerned.
This guy has been groomed by the uniformed terrorists since he was a teenager.
Utter psychopath this chap is.

[A_Gupta]

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/pakistan ... -scapegoat
“Pakistan finds a new scapegoat”

[chetak]

Modi Govt is planning to sell over 2.91 lakh 'enemy property' shares in 84 companies

Assets left behind by people who have taken citizenship of Pakistan and China -- mostly between 1947 and 1962 -- are called 'enemy property

In the first tranche, the government is looking to sell about 1.88 lakh shares in 20 companies and has invited bids from 10 categories of buyers.

https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/india- ... 773531.htm

[Manish_P]

Can the US really blame poor Pakistan for off-the-book expenses when it has given aid off-the-book hain...

Yawn - Foreign aid is no panacea

This writer undertook an inquiry into the role of foreign assistance to Pakistan and its various aspects. The task is now complete, with the findings to be published soon by PIDE. And like Didac, the findings call for some serious contemplation.

It proved to be a difficult task. Covering various aspects of foreign aid meant sifting through either highly scattered or non-available information. Both government officials and donors like to pretend that everything is ‘out there’, but that is simply not the case.

Anyways, the first important query related to how much aid has Pakistan really received till now. Specifically, of the ‘committed’ aid since 1950 ($200 billion plus), how much aid did Pakistan really receive? Surprisingly, no one knows. The research, accumulating data from various sources, concluded that the received amount is anywhere between $155 to $157bn.

But even this figure does not tell the exact quantum of foreign aid that Pakistan received. Why? Because there have historically been ‘off the books’ inflows (especially under military rule) that have never been officially recorded. For example, a recently declassified US document revealed that President Carter authorised $2bn for Pakistan (with an equivalent matching grant from Saudi Arabia). Nowhere in official documents do we find mention of this inflow. Similarly, during a Congressional hearing in 2007, a senior fellow from the Woodrow Wilson Institute revealed that off-the-books aid to Pakistan was equivalent to the officially provided aid ($7bn plus).

[ricky_v]

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/the ... tionalism/

In retrospect, the Punjabi-dominated establishment’s abuse of Pashtun land, considering it an outlier, has not come without costs. The situation resembles the outcome of the ‘prisoner’s dilemma’ for Punjab as the province itself has become more radicalized than any other part of Pakistan, with several masterminds of terrorism based inside it.

Moreover, the military itself has had to endure resistance from certain sections of the Taliban who launched attacks on its installments. The ethnocratic state’s instrumentalization of violence for domestic and foreign policy objectives—facilitated through the retainment of colonial governance system and ban on media in the then-FATA—also, in turn, created space for the anti-state Taliban, labelled ‘Bad Taliban’.

However, it is the primordially secular Pashtuns, especially those of the ex-FATA, who have most been at the receiving end, both physically and culturally. Their lives, lands and culture since far too long have been compromised by the “ethnic absolutism” and hegemony of Punjab.

The ex-FATA before the merger until 2018 were called ‘ilaqa ghair’, meaning lawless or foreign territory. They comprised seven ‘agencies’, namely, Bajaur, Mohmand, Khyber, Orakzai, Kurram, North Waziristan and South Waziristan, as well as six ‘Frontier Regions (FRs)’: FR-Peshawar, FR-Kohat, FR-Bannu, FR-Lakki Marwat, FR-Tank and FR-Dera Ismail Khan.

Since 1901, British colonizers had placed FATA under a parallel political, legal and administrative set-up minus fundamental rights, called the Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR), which Pakistan retained. In these circumstances, the ancient unwritten code of honorable conduct, Pashtunwali/Pukhtunwali, maintained the social structure of the region. This article delves into Pashtunwali and the history of the territory to uncover how the Pashtun region in general and ex-FATA in particular became the hotbed of terrorism.

Concerning the armed struggles undertaken by the Pashtuns throughout history, it is important to understand that the inspiration to defend one’s land comes from Pashtunwali, which is more pre-Islamic than post-Islamic. This factor automatically makes the vital component of the Pashtun ethnic identity, that is, Pashtunwali, secular in nature, since it predates all theories of Islamism.

Therefore, Pashtunwali can only inspire national wars of liberation, and has not served as an inspiration behind jihadist militancy, as the Pashtun nationalist warrior-poet Khushal Khan Khattak wrote about its secular values in the seventeenth century.

Furthermore, given their geo-strategic location, the Pashtuns have been subjected to invasions by Alexander the Greek, the Mughals and the British, which compelled the former to fight to defend their land. This is also clear from Pashto ethno-symbolic poetry and music. For example, the Pashtun national anthem opens with, “it is our history that we have been traveling through blood.”

Furthermore, before leaving India, the British partitioned it, causing the birth of Pakistan. Certain tribal elders from FATA reportedly signed secret instruments of accession with the Dominion of Pakistan. Hence, the crucial territory fell under Pakistan’s control, which decided to keep its colonial status intact, and named it FATA.

The situation of the ex-FATA with regard to militancy cannot be understood without first understanding Pakistan, which the region became a part of, and the policies the state adopted. Pakistan, in itself, was a classic example of a “colonially created state with [a] culturally heterogeneous population,” called a “plural society.” The country’s civilian administration was dominated by two ethnic groups: the Punjabis and Mohajirs. In addition, the military was also controlled by the Punjabis, along with significant Pashtun representation.

does anyone know which tribes signed the instrument of ascension in secret with the pakis

As a geo-strategically significant fact, Pakistan’s western neighbor, Afghanistan, has historically problematized the former’s claim that the Durand Line was a permanent international boundary. Afghanistan holds that it was only meant to define the respective spheres of influence of the old Afghan Kingdom and British India, and never meant to act as an international border, thus rejecting the division of ethnic Pashtuns. The Afghan stance has understandably caused Pakistani foreign policymakers to be concerned about the rise of potential irredentism, leading to the breakup of Pakistan.

After 1973, Pakistan believed the then Afghan President Sardar Daoud was sponsoring Pashtun separatists inside Pakistan, to help them carve out an independent Pashtun state from within Pakistan-administered territories, to be called ‘Pashtunistan/Pukhtunistan.’ This scenario posed serious dangers for the integrity of the Pakistani state. It could deprive the country of more than half of its territory, by also possibly facilitating the secession of the southwestern province of Balochistan.

As mentioned earlier, Pakistan perceived President Daoud to be covertly working for the creation of an autonomous Pashtunistan in the early 1970s. The Pakistani security establishment was aware that, notwithstanding intra-Pashtun conflicts, the “notion of the ethnic and cultural unity of all Pashtuns has long been familiar to them as a symbolic complex of great potential for political unity.” This is especially true considering they had once been politically united already in 1747 by King Ahmad Shah Durrani, the founder of modern Afghanistan.

After the 1978 Communist Revolution in Afghanistan, subsequent rulers decided to perpetuate the nationalist policy, while also receiving Soviet backing. In 1979, the Afghan Prime Minister Hafizullah Amin explicitly called for ‘Greater Afghanistan’ by reincorporating Pashtun and Baloch territories under Pakistani control. He proclaimed, “[the Pashtuns and Baloch] want to live side by side, embrace each other and demonstrate this great love to the world at large [through their reunification in Greater Afghanistan].”

Throughout the process, Pakistan was monetarily and materially backed by the United States, given its Cold War rivalry with the Soviet Union. It also received massive support from the Gulf Arab states who viewed the Islamist resistance in Afghanistan as a means to expand their Wahhabist influence through sponsoring ideological militants. Pakistan, for its own objectives, sought the installation of Islamist surrogate rule in Afghanistan, an aim for the fulfillment of which the adjoining FATA proved invaluable.

The region was already devoid of the state’s usual governance machinery and possessed a mountainous geography that offered ample space for high-quality militant training. Hence, the Punjabi-dominated Pakistani military establishment decided in favor of using the Pashtun ethnic minority’s land for its strategic objectives, orchestrating the anti-Soviet war. This was further enabled by the fact that neither the army’s decision-making ‘corps commanders’ nor a significant number of foot soldiers ever belonged to the peripheral FATA, therefore the areas’ interests did not fare prominently in the military elite’s agenda.

It is pertinent to mention that the terrorism in the region has hitherto hardly been addressed from this ethnic perspective in the existing literature. This is despite the fact that the ex-FATA being an ethnic minority region and the Pakistani military dominated by the ethnic majority are both documented realities. The military itself has acknowledged the Punjabi dominance at 71 percent, though independent sources, as early as in 1987, claimed the figure to be 80 percent. This was when the third and fourth martial rules entrenching Punjabisation further had yet to run their course.

does anyone know what the author is talking about in the above?

Nevertheless, as a result of the sponsorship of Islamism inside FATA, the secular tribal elders’ social authority was undermined in favor of the mullahs, whose role, previously, had been “restricted to mosques.” The non-existence of political parties in the region facilitated their rise further.

Thus, a mullah-military alliance was enabled, which helped the diffusion of centrifugal, ethno-nationalist forces in the region. This also prepared the ground for Islamist militancy through “purpose-built”, hate-preaching madrasas. Militants from all around the globe, including the would-be founders of al-Qaeda, were brought to FATA, and provided weapons and training in special camps to fight the Soviet and Afghan forces as a ‘holy war.’

During the same period, in this region of the Pashtun “sidestream ethnicity”, sectarianism was also encouraged by Pakistan’s military dictator, General Zia-ul-Haq—himself an ethnic Punjabi. He allowed the ‘mujahideen’ and Punjab-based Sunni sectarian militants to operate against the minority Shia Pashtuns of the Kurram agency.

Indeed, certain non-Punjabi mullahs and military authorities also played important roles during the 1980s in this strategic game played in FATA. One such figure was the ‘father of the Taliban,’ Mullah Sami-ul-Haq, who supplied human resources against the Soviets as the head of the most important madrasa, Darul Uloom Haqqania, in the now-KP. Another one was General Naseerullah Babur, who, as Inspector General of the Frontier Corps, had assisted the jihadist exercise.

Successive heads of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency that was orchestrating the anti-Soviet resistance issued statements such as “Kabul must burn” and “Afghanistan is a blank paper and it would look like whatever we write on it,” caring little about the repercussions of their Afghan policy for the Pashtun region.

This simultaneously injected radicalism into the traditional tribal society and altered ethnic identity in the process.

During the anti-Soviet war from 1979 to 1989, the madrasas built inside FATA and other western minority regions such as the adjoining KP and Balochistan were used to ‘educate’ the Afghan refugees’ and local Pashtuns’ children. Indeed, some of them joined the Islamist resistance. Later, they came to be known as the Taliban (seminary students), who had been infused with jihadist ideology.

These extremist by-products of the anti-Soviet episode proved useful for Pakistan in the 1990s, when its favored ‘mujahideen’ could not prove capable of installing a sustainable Islamist government in Kabul. Thereafter, as a more ‘effective’ alternative, the Taliban were brought to power for providing ‘strategic depth’ to Pakistan in the event of war with India. This was evident from Pakistan’s prompt recognition of their tyrannical government in 1996.

They systematically began to target the local tribal elders who were opposed to their presence, thereby throwing into disorder the tribal society. The Taliban intended to fill the subsequently created social vacuum themselves, as they did through the formation of the ‘Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.’

In their self-defense according to Pashtunwali, the locals formed anti-Taliban lashkars/lakhkars (armed groups); however, the Pakistani state offered little support while the Taliban were attacking these lashkars. Instead, the state appeared to view the happenings as ‘necessary,’ so the jihadists could establish bases in FATA. From those bases, they had to attack the Coalition and Afghan forces, and subsequently rise to power in Kabul, as in 1996. This would fulfil Pakistan’s regional objective of suppressing Pashtun nationalism.

[kancha]

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/the ... tionalism/

As a geo-strategically significant fact, Pakistan’s western neighbor, Afghanistan, has historically problematized the former’s claim that the Durand Line was a permanent international boundary. Afghanistan holds that it was only meant to define the respective spheres of influence of the old Afghan Kingdom and British India, and never meant to act as an international border, thus rejecting the division of ethnic Pashtuns. The Afghan stance has understandably caused Pakistani foreign policymakers to be concerned about the rise of potential irredentism, leading to the breakup of Pakistan.

Exactly what I wrote on Twitter some days ago when Afghan 'refugees' were drive back across the Durand Line. A shame indeed, how this is hardly ever talked about.

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Technically, Pakistan evicted Afghans not from Pakistani, but Afghan lands.
The Durand Line agreement (which is now lapsed) was imposed by British, dividing Afghan lands in order to create a buffer for the core of their empire of India.
Time to correct this historical wrong.

[kancha]

On the same note, Afghanistan was the only country to object to Pakistan's inclusion in the UN after its creation. Reason being Non-acceptance of Durand Line.

[ricky_v]

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Technically, Pakistan evicted Afghans not from Pakistani, but Afghan lands.
The Durand Line agreement (which is now lapsed) was imposed by British, dividing Afghan lands in order to create a buffer for the core of their empire of India.
Time to correct this historical wrong.

perceptive point, kancha ji and its a good thing that handles like yours initiate discourse such as the underlined, it forces the reader to reconsider preconceived notions; that was one another thing that attracted me to this article, seems to be written by a person of afghan origin living in the uk, till now afg has been poorly served by intelligentsia, but hopefully voices like the above are widely spread to initiate wider discourse, sadly though, afg has such a poor reputation atm that a failed, terror-sponsoring nation is rated higher than it

[A_Gupta]

The official story is that Jinnah and the various tribes of FATA agreed to accession to Pakistan in the Bannu Tribal Jirga of January 1948.

[Jay]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ira ... -106416888

Now its Iran's turn to whip these idiots.

Things are heating up and I hope we are ready for what might be coming our way.

[Anujan]

Iran has exported missiles and drones for free to Pakistan in return for Pakistan exporting labor to Iran.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1806351/pakis ... ign-office

[A_Gupta]

Wiki on Jaish ul Adl:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish_ul-Adl

Doesn't make much sense to me as to how they have bases in Pakistan, because Jaish ul Adl's success would mean a new Sunni state made of Iranian + Pakistani Balochistan.

I guess for Pakistanis though, all jihadis are welcome; pan-Islamism at its finest.

Added:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriphagy

Matriphagy is the consumption of the mother by her offspring. The behavior generally takes place within the first few weeks of life and has been documented in some species of insects, nematode worms, pseudoscorpions, and other arachnids as well as in caecilian amphibians.

And of course, Pakistan. Pakistan births jihadis, and the jihadis consume Pakistan.

[Anujan]

Pakistan should give a fitting reply to Iran and cancel the next monthly approval of Iran-Pakistan pipeline.

[MeshaVishwas]

^^

[partha]

Pakistan should give a fitting reply to Iran and cancel the next monthly approval of Iran-Pakistan pipeline.

Pakistan should also drop Iran from SIFC and CPEC schemes.

[A_Gupta]

!!!!
https://english.news.cn/20240117/55db4c ... 80a/c.html

TEHRAN, Jan. 16 (Xinhua) -- The Iranian and Pakistani navies have staged a one-day joint military exercise in the Gulf and Strait of Hormoz, according to a statement published on the Iranian army's public relations website on Tuesday.

Just putting this to highlight the contrast.

https://english.news.cn/asiapacific/202 ... e08/c.html

TEHRAN, Jan. 16 (Xinhua) -- Two important bases of the Jaish al-Zulm "terrorist group" in Pakistan were destroyed in missile and drone strikes on Tuesday, Iran's semi-official Tasnim news agency reported.

[VinodTK]

Pakistan will use this incident to get new advanced arms, helicopters, some more F16's (old & spare parts)
Its a question of time, after their election the new PM will visit US and ask for help to fight big bad Iran
I would not be surprised if this was a planned event instigated by Pakistan to tick off Iran,
the end game is to get closer to KSA, USA, and ultimate goal get IMF loans and weapons.

[A_Gupta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc9hl6bYGsc
Iran’s Foreign Minister Speaks At World Economic Forum In Davos Amid Tensions With West

Iranian Foreign Minister - paraphrase - we respect the sovereignty of Pakistan but will not compromise on national security.

[SRajesh]

Guptaji
I wonder whether this more than just Jund Lalla type terror outfit strike.
Unkil is cozying upto Uniformed Jihadis
Deep state want to target #Eyran next!!
How do we know what exactly was hit.
What if some sort of HUMINT unit based to collect info for Unkil??

[chetak]

Iranian Strikes in Pakistan dominate Pakistani print media this morning....


And their own biradari mulk going after them......


couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys

[A_Gupta]

X/Twitter:
https://x.com/FrontalForce/status/17475 ... 69786?s=20
Image of order signed by Captain (Retired) Muhammad Khurram Agha, Principal Secretary, PMO.

#BREAKING : Strict instructions issued by PMO Pakistan on behalf of Pakistan Army for not covering news related to Iranian missile attacks in Turbat and Panjgur. Visiting the affected area is also prohibited.

Reminds of Balakot airstrikes when same orders were issued.

[sanjaykumar]

Is it the same crows called upon to do their patriotic duty?

[ernest]

We should announce, from time to time, that we did a surgical strike on terror camps in Pak. Will keep terrorists (with and without uniform) on their toes, and increase the cost of cross border terrorism. We decline to provide any proof, and leave the PA pulling their hair out convincing nanha mujahids that they are safe.

[A_Gupta]

@SRajesh, Iran certainly feels under siege and is lashing out. Whether it is Unkil, or a combination of anti-Iran Sunni forces, or paranoia, time will tell.

[Anujan]

Pakistan should also drop Iran from SIFC and CPEC schemes.

Informed Sources tell me that Jernail Asim Munir has vowed to defeat Iran, as soon as he is finished defeating PTI in elections.

Jernail Munir is the hardest working Jernail in South Asia

Managing elections, Managing economy through SIFC, Managing foreign relations, Managing Pakistan's security and army ...

Sources tell me that it takes 8 Indians -- External affairs minister, Finance minister, Chief Election Commissioner, Minister of Information and Broadcasting, Chief Justice, Chief of army staff, traffic constable near Lok Sabha and Mungeri Lal -- to do what 1 Pakistani Jernail does on a day to day basis

[sanjaykumar]

Naah, they are setting up to do an Afghanistan on Iran. Via Pakistan, as usual.

[Manish_P]

Naah, they are setting up to do an Afghanistan on Iran. Via Pakistan, as usual.

+1

The gigantic US MIL-IND complex demands fresh morsels every year. And they won't hit China until their goods supply chains are de-risked completely (to India, Vietnam, Korea etc). Also the pressure on Israel needs to be lessened. So tying Iran down might have got prioritized.

Anyway good news to the Pakis.

The gravy train might be resuming

[A_Gupta]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... s?from=mdr

"Pakistan conducts strike in Iran in retaliation to drone and missile strikes, hits Baloch separatist groups"

".... TV reports on Thursday claimed that Pakistan has hit back."

[Anujan]

https://twitter.com/khorasandiary/statu ... 4423851337

A video uploaded by news outlets of Saravan city at dawn shows at least one site hit by Pakistan early this morning. Multiple bodies are under the debris it states. Saravan city in Sistan wa Balochistan province of Iran is approximately 200 kilometres from Panjgur, Balochistan Province of Pakistan

[sanman]

Pak claims to strike Iran back: