International Aerospace Discussion - Jan 2018

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Manish_P wrote: 21 Mar 2024 15:48 I guess the realization that the future English fighter aircraft will probably be American has dawned on him.
See This ---> viewtopic.php?p=2611899#p2611899
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Rakesh wrote: 22 Mar 2024 16:09
Manish_P wrote: 21 Mar 2024 15:48 I guess the realization that the future English fighter aircraft will probably be American has dawned on him.
See This ---> viewtopic.php?p=2611899#p2611899
What they don't like and what they can actually do about it are two very different things, Admiral sir.

Anyway, good luck to Great Britain little england.
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Great interview with a designer of NASA's Mars Ingenuity Helicopter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4XpLZqc6ao

Very surprising to learn that this marvel was built using off-the-shelf components.

There's been speculation that ISRO might try to send a tiny helicopter as part of a surface mission on its next flight to Mars.

I think that one key hurdle would be communications.
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France Finally Agrees to Transfer 30 Mirage 2000 Fighter Jets from UAE to Morocco
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... rocco.html
15 April 2024
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VIDEO: https://x.com/AirbusDefence/status/1779796481005810091 ---> The first A-400M for the Republic of Kazakhstan has rolled out of the Airbus paint shop.

Thttps://x.com/GarethJennings3/status/1779798484457083051 ---> No, not a prop for the latest movie where they couldn't source an actual Soviet-type airlifter, but the first actual @AirbusDefence A400M for Kazakhstan going through the paint shop ahead of delivery.

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AI Is Now Dogfighting With Fighter Pilots In The Air
https://www.twz.com/air/ai-is-now-dogfi ... in-the-air
17 April 2024
The breakthrough in autonomous aerial combat made by the X-62 test jet is set to have far-reaching impacts well beyond dogfighting.
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Rakesh wrote: 18 Apr 2024 01:25 AI Is Now Dogfighting With Fighter Pilots In The Air
https://www.twz.com/air/ai-is-now-dogfi ... in-the-air
17 April 2024
The breakthrough in autonomous aerial combat made by the X-62 test jet is set to have far-reaching impacts well beyond dogfighting.
This has very wide implications.

The US pilots will practice all sorts of maneuvers, tactics and scenarios, in the comfort/safety of their territories, which will be captured and fed into the databases for the AI programs to study, replicate and counter. And the databases will capture (they were doing it already manually) the maneuvers & tactics of 'friendly' air forces, during 'exercises' and feed it into the AI programs to equip the future UCAVs or even assist the manned fighters (like chess computers do) to counter the op forces.

The game is now moving fast to the next level
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^^^
Once human pilots are removed, there won’t be 9G restrictions. All that excess human ergonomics and life support can be discarded.
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^ my thrust was more towards the game changing rapid data gathering, processing, learning and countering by use of machine learning rather than the unmanned vs manned flight limitations.

It's rather like Humans were ahead of computers in chess till the 90s (IIRC) but once More and more data had been fed in, analysed and counters also fed in it has become extremely difficult now for the top human to defeat the top computer.

Of course totally agree that the UCAV will have the advantage in maneuvering
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Indeed, i think almost all of the 6th Gen and currently planned 5th gen fighters are optionally manned! Future fighter pilots would be sitting in office chairs somewhere on the ground rather than up in the air.

Also isn't it the same thing for all manned platforms esp. Tanks, Submarines etc. . Esp with AI the platforms could be self-learning autonomous killing machines!

shades of Skynet no doubt
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The X-62A Variable In-Flight Simulator Test Aircraft (VISTA) is testing the world's first AI-piloted F-16

It has just completed a dogfighting test against a human-piloted F-16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaY5rF7n6VE

Look at this damn thing doing basic flight maneuvers - spooky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWPRVmWnl1k

older video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1V-ljdHO_0
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