India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

[disha]

The saga of US SD and the US Amby Gar$hitty taking a dump is now continued by Hon. Senator (Democrat) from Maryland Sri Ben Cardin. Here is the CAA related dump by Senator (Democrat) from Maryland:

I am deeply concerned by the Indian government's decision to notify its controversial Citizenship Amendment Act, particularly the law's potential ramifications on India's Muslim community. Making matters worse is the fact that it is being pushed during the holy month of Ramadan," Senator Ben Cardin, chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement.

How can one even tell the Senator and his ignorant, arrogant & stupid staff that this law does not affect muzleems. But affects non-muslims!

[Rakesh]

Senator Ben Cardin was the same dude that put a hold on the MQ-9 deal ---> viewtopic.php?p=2612860#p2612860

[vsunder]

^^^ Sen Cardin the senior senator from Maryland is retiring this year after serving three terms in the Senate. His predecessor Sen Barbara Mikulski also a Maryland senator who was in the Senate foreign relations committee also was anti India and made intemperate comments. The part of Maryland bordering Washington has many Indians from Karnataka and Andhra who can educate these people but choose to live in their ghettos.

The junior senator from Maryland, one Chris van Hollen, was one of 70 signatories to the letter drafted by Pramilla Jaypal castigating human rights in India. With such a huge Indian population in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, many in positions of influence, it is sad that there is no one to educate these senators or their staff. Van Hollen has commended Pakistan on its election as “ many turned out”.

In the case of van Hollen it is understandable where he is coming from. He was born in Karachi and his father was the CIA station chief in those parts.

[vera_k]

US immigration policy is set up to import many more Muslims than Hindus. This is the result and some US politicians will therefore get added to the list of pseudo-secular politicians. A politicians main interest is to get elected, all else being secondary.

[vimal]

^^ The six year rule still stands afaik. But that was not my point. If they can poke our laws we should too.

[vera_k]

India's Probe Finds Rogue Officials Involved in US Murder Plot

At least one person directly involved in the alleged attempted assassination is no longer working for India’s main spy agency, the Research and Analysis Wing, the officials said, asking not to be identified because the details of the investigation haven’t been made public.

And this part makes one wonder if a secret court hasn't already signed a warrant for the terrorists.

The individual is still employed by the government and India hasn’t started any criminal action against him, the people said.

The US is demanding a criminal prosecution of the individuals involved, a request reiterated by Donald Lu, assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asia, during his visit to India in January, the people said.

[sanman]

India's Probe Finds Rogue Officials Involved in US Murder Plot

At least one person directly involved in the alleged attempted assassination is no longer working for India’s main spy agency, the Research and Analysis Wing, the officials said, asking not to be identified because the details of the investigation haven’t been made public.

And this part makes one wonder if a secret court hasn't already signed a warrant for the terrorists.

Terrorists? Which terrorists?

The individual is still employed by the government and India hasn’t started any criminal action against him, the people said.

The US is demanding a criminal prosecution of the individuals involved, a request reiterated by Donald Lu, assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asia, during his visit to India in January, the people said.

Why aren't we asking more loudly why US isn't prosecuting those who funded the Coronavirus research which killed so many Indians and millions of others around the world? Not only us, but entire global south should demand this.

If US is intent on making itself a base of operations for Khalistanis, then we can't take it lying down. We have to respond very resolutely.

[AkshaySG]

From the initial bluster from the government on this it does seem to be a little bit of a capitulation on our end.

The internal reality could very well be different and it may have been a rogue however what do we gain from sharing an official confirmation w US.

If someone in CIA or SD took matters in their own hands this way we would never hear an official confirmation

[sanman]

From the initial bluster from the government on this it does seem to be a little bit of a capitulation on our end.

The internal reality could very well be different and it may have been a rogue however what do we gain from sharing an official confirmation w US.

If someone in CIA or SD took matters in their own hands this way we would never hear an official confirmation

We're looking like amateurs again. Just like Vajpayee & Advani writing pleading letters to Clinton after Pokhran-2.

[chetak]

From the initial bluster from the government on this it does seem to be a little bit of a capitulation on our end.

The internal reality could very well be different and it may have been a rogue however what do we gain from sharing an official confirmation w US.

If someone in CIA or SD took matters in their own hands this way we would never hear an official confirmation

AkshaySG ji,

My personal read is this:

India just doesn't have the capability to do what the canucks and the amrikis say she did with reference to nijjar/panun khalistanis. No one, no matter how foolish, would ever leave such a broad and conspicuous trail for anyone else to follow

After Amitbhai's tough stance against the violent "farmers" especially, by taking, via drones, their ugly mug photographs for identification, and using that for cancelling their visas and black listing the kanedian passports of the khalistanis, torching their OCI cards for good and not allowing the violence involved "Indian" farmers to apply for passports because they will not be able to clear the police verifications, have put the fear of MAD into them

It was an elaborate amriki plot to intimidate India on an international scale but none of the euros dared to join in, fearing Modiji's wrath in economic and geopolitical terms and the canucks foolishly jumped the gun and took the amrikis by complete surprise

No one wants to tangle with SJ, especially not the amrikis who really have a lot to lose in terms of the many alphabet soup agreements that the US has signed with

their warships are being docked for maintenance and repairs at a secure L&T facility in TN, just to quote one example. Their logistic chain has become much shorter with food, fuel and spares moving from India, without any paki jernail types charging "transit fees" on a per container basis

All in all, it's too much to lose and very little to gain in some ill thought out intimidatory tactics, blackmail exercise, dreamed by some low level, wet behind the ears SD punk. BTW, turdeau messed up big time and the kanedian dimwit dynast will never be able to walk it back

new zealand has called out the 5eyes inputs that kaneda claims that it has

the goras are playing it out in a much quieter, and under the radar mode, preparatory to ditching the blackmail narrative entirely but they will not withdraw the lying charges that they have made, and neither will India ever forget it

[Cyrano]

Please stop self flagellating based on some Bloomberg report citing unnamed officials.

I'll only trust an official statement from GoI.

[vimal]

Bloomberg is a Chinese mouthpiece

[ArjunPandit]

From the initial bluster from the government on this it does seem to be a little bit of a capitulation on our end.

The internal reality could very well be different and it may have been a rogue however what do we gain from sharing an official confirmation w US.

If someone in CIA or SD took matters in their own hands this way we would never hear an official confirmation

you have to realize that we are doing such ops in a very very long time..and hunting is something we have "never" done "before". These capabilties take a long time to build and there are always hiccups in the road. GOI is cutting the losses now and extricating itself. Just like any sane govt does including US govt. in such cases the line b/w fiction and truth is blurred and varies over time. Best to lay low for now and learn from mistakes. Case in pt shaheen bagh farmers protests. First time seemed scuccessful, then protests fizzled out as soon as they begun. Similarly acts will be done silently in future

[NRao]

First Victoria Behan is removed.

Now Kejri.

Modi seems to be dismantling the CIA along with SD!!

[Vayutuvan]

@NRao gaaru, is it your case that VN was removed at the behest of Modi ji?!!! Come on.

[Vayutuvan]

We're looking like amateurs again. Just like Vajpayee & Advani writing pleading letters to Clinton after Pokhran-2.

It is was a one two punch during P2. $3 billion worth of India bonds within a month was worth a 1000 apology letters. One apology letter was a small dog biskoot thrown SD's way.

[A_Gupta]

India summons US diplomat over Kejriwal comments https://p.dw.com/p/4eAs9?maca=en-Twitter-sharing

[A_Gupta]

We have heard Gurupatwant Singh Pannun, Khalistan terrorist, claim to have donated a few million US$ to the Aam Aadmi Party. Suppose it is true. What other damaging secrets does Pannun have?

In that regard, here is my speculation: suppose Pannun was blackmailing some Indian politician. That politician might have launched an amateur effort to get rid of Pannun. That is why the plot that the FBI revealed is so absurd, RAW etc., are not so stupid.

But because of the politician’s position, some of India’s babudom were involved and left their traces, and this is what the Five Eyes picked up as official Indian engagement.

[vera_k]

^ And following on, Washington asking for an investigation into the attempt on Pannun may very well have led to Kejriwal's arrest just before the elections.

Because it is true - why arrest him now when they held off arresting him for the last year? Pannun burning him publicly points in this direction IMO.

[Cyrano]

Amreeki diplomat summoned by mea and given a 45 min long wedgie... Ouch, why this discrimination? Few days ago the German fellow was let off after just 15 mins...

[NRao]

@NRao gaaru, is it your case that VN was removed at the behest of Modi ji?!!! Come on.

The only "behest of Modi ji" is for a few acres of land for a Mandir.

Anything beyond is dealt with via various, flexible means - whatever they may be. They are gamed, thus they are flexible.

BTW, I had posted that VN was gone, on Def Talks (Aadi Achint YT channel), a few months before her resignation.

Amreeki diplomat summoned by MEA and given a 45-minute long wedgie... Ouch, why this discrimination? A few days ago the German fellow was let off after just 15 mins...

Germany is the new kaanada.

Both Justinder and Olaf are impotent (as are Macron and Sunak).

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Kejriwal is the motherload for an intel agency.

I would suggest, humbly, that Bharat negotiates for F414, a few retiring Ohio/Virginia class subs, retiring Talons (distribute them to various Univs in Bharat), and many more goodies, like retiring Obama for good, Gates convert to Sanatani, get oil for $20/barrel for life, ............

Be aggressive, as aggressive can be

[krithivas]

India must remove the self imposed shackle that it will not comment about the internal affairs of another country. By extension others should not do the same to India. This clearly is It is a great leverage we are not using.

[Mort Walker]

Get ready for more US meddling in India's affairs. I predicted this nearly four years ago when the illegitimate Biden and his Urban Naxals came to power in DC. India must float UN monitoring in seven US states for election fraud as the incumbent party is known for booth capturing. Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia. There is also a high probability that a constitutional crisis will come about if the incumbent party loses the November election and nullifies the results. This will cause a huge loss to loktantra in the west and India must remain vigilant.

[drnayar]

That khujli is in close contact with the Americans (cia) was an open secret not long back ..this was in the news ...as well as seizure of incriminating evidence from his offices early into in his career.he has become smarter in covering the evidence trail

https://www.sanskritimagazine.com/kejri ... gest-scam/



Source :sanskriti magazine

[Cyrano]

The current GoI is fully aware. Even the economic advisor to PM Sanjeev Sanyal spoke about these foundations and NGOs in various interviews - he has not a minister and therefore can speak his mind in a private capacity, but to think that the GoI is sleeping on these matters is far from the truth.

The more these garbagechettis speak and get echoed in India and abroad, the more trouble makers get identified and noted down by MHA and NIA. They will be dealt with in due time like Shishupaalas.

[sanman]

India must remove the self imposed shackle that it will not comment about the internal affairs of another country. By extension others should not do the same to India. This clearly is It is a great leverage we are not using.

We at least need to unleash our own media to go after US hypocrisy more vociferously

[disha]

The more these garbagechettis speak and get echoed in India and abroad, the more trouble makers get identified and noted down by MHA and NIA. They will be dealt with in due time like Shishupaalas.

First of all, garbagechettis is a mouthful. Easier to call him as Gar$hitty. Easier to pronounce and a nice play on the name.

Two, Gar$hitty is just a tool. He will do whatever he is told to do. Like go, take a hike in a autorickshaw, enjoy the scenes, eat falooda and say whatever US-SD wants him to say.

There is a reason why India MEA called the (Acting) US Deputy chief of mission Gloria Berbena and gave her a diplomatic mouthful.

This also shows how pathetic US SD has become. And how de-focussed on India they are. The cold war foggies and the millenium wokies have no clue on how to approach current India.

I shudder to think what the Foggies and Wokies will try to do (harm both themselves and US-India relations) in a way to gain leverage. US SD can gain leverage over India differently and positively. But the foggies and wokies are dunkies who do not have either the strategic vision for their own country or for the world or for their relations with India and the wokies who do not have any historical or cultural background and neither the leadership to forge a relation forward, will totally screw this up for both India and US.

For this both the cold war foggies and the new age so-called progressive 'wokies' need to go.

[Y I Patel]

This is to pressure Indian Judiciary to go easy on Kejriwal and Congress. Notice the drama by Kejriwal and Co after his arrest by ED.

Hope this is fought tooth and nail. The fighting has to be G2G, can’t be pushed into the shadows.

[krithivas]

^^^ maybe the real intended recipient of the message is the Hizzoners of SC, not GoI?

[vera_k]

Another pointer to a desire to recruit political dissidents.

They faked AAP link, political persecution to gain US asylum

Earlier, many immigrants faked Congress affiliation

[chetak]

^^^ maybe the real intended recipient of the message is the Hizzoners of SC, not GoI?

krithivas ji,


It doesn't really matter because the real target is Modiji onlee

[chetak]

That khujli is in close contact with the Americans (cia) was an open secret not long back ..this was in the news ...as well as seizure of incriminating evidence from his offices early into in his career.he has become smarter in covering the evidence trail

https://www.sanskritimagazine.com/kejri ... gest-scam/



Source :sanskriti magazine

drnayar ji,


now we know why murti made a self hyped personal bid to become the president of India, and if that did not work out, he wanted to become the Indian ambassador to the US.

He is delusional enough to think himself as being that influential and very obviously, the fraud foundation wanted a puppet at the highest levels of the Indian constitutional machinery.

He seems to be back on his meds again but slips up once every now and then, when he spouts his deranged balderdash


good for us that all his efforts were stillborn

[Mort Walker]

The Biden regime has now reached out to Kashmiri activists post Article 370 abrogation & before elections. The US Embassy invited several Kashmiri activists including student leaders, for the Iftar party hosted in New Delhi.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/j-k/u ... tar-605055

[Mort Walker]

The US toolkit has now been activated. Multiple transgressions by the Biden regime.

1. US ambassador openly criticizing CAA which passed SC scrutiny.
2. State Dept. comments about Kerjiwal.
3. State Department doubles down again about Kejriwal & falsely indicates INC “frozen” accounts.
4. Gets the UN to state that India’s election should be free & fair.
5. Now US ambassador invites Kashmiri activists to Iftar party.

This is blatant US election interference. It’s absolutely shameful for any Indian origin person to support the current US regime.

[NRao]

Well, Sanjay Dixit on Jaipur Dialogs, is reporting that MEA is going to track US elections!! That India opposes mail-in ballots, etc.

Sanjay Sanyal, in the past week, said India has about 1/3rd of the world population and therefore should have 1/3rd of the world's billionaires and they all should be brown.

There is also a fear that the Soros gang will resort to using (pseudo) Sanatanis to infiltrate and dismember Bharat.

SD failed in regime change. So, now Soros is trying to discredit the elections - like they tried in BD. EVM = Modi, paper ballots = pappu. So, EVMs are bad.

Fun times.

[disha]

Another pointer to a desire to recruit political dissidents.

They faked AAP link, political persecution to gain US asylum

Earlier, many immigrants faked Congress affiliation

Gujjus are playing the US Asylum system very well. Here is the business plan, get a selfie clicked with Arvind Kejriwal and get yourself an AAP ticket. Do some ho-halla-morcha in some mohalla corner and get a FIR filed against you. That is become an AAPTard leader.

Now go to Gujarat, charge Rs. 1 Lakh for a nice photo (maybe two), with the ho-halla-morcha props added for another Rs. 1 Lakh. Cite the FIR and even better provide warrants against you. The asylum seeker can go to US, Canada or Australia and seeks political asylum. Every year, for $2500, the asylum seeker gets an updated FIR/Warrant from you or another AAPtard leader. If you do for 100 asylum seekers, you have a recurring revenue of Rs. 1 Crore to Rs. 2 Crore. And if those in US keep on sending their fees, you have Rs. 5 - 10 Crore business in next five years!

Any takers?

[Mort Walker]

Indian origin Asylum seekers in the US must realize that they may never set foot in India & any property they have get confiscated.

[Vayutuvan]

Another pointer to a desire to recruit political dissidents.

They faked AAP link, political persecution to gain US asylum

Earlier, many immigrants faked Congress affiliation

From the above, I

Authorities in Gujarat insisted that such claims of politica ..persecution are largely false. "Many of those who seek asylum to the US belong to communities that are loyal to the ruling party ... " (said a police officer)

Hmm. Does that policeman meant to say "communities loyal to the ruling party" are crooks?!!!

[Haresh]

This entire asylum claim thing is BS. Just a way to get into a Western country.
I remember back in the 80's when the entire khalistan thing was happening. People who were not even Punjabi were claiming to be Sikhs. Tamils, Guju's, Bengalis we used to laugh at the time.

[drnayar]

Well, Sanjay Dixit on Jaipur Dialogs, is reporting that MEA is going to track US elections!! That India opposes mail-in ballots, etc.

Sanjay Sanyal, in the past week, said India has about 1/3rd of the world population and therefore should have 1/3rd of the world's billionaires and they all should be brown.

There is also a fear that the Soros gang will resort to using (pseudo) Sanatanis to infiltrate and dismember Bharat.

SD failed in regime change. So, now Soros is trying to discredit the elections - like they tried in BD. EVM = Modi, paper ballots = pappu. So, EVMs are bad.

Fun times.

India AND China has 1/3rd worlds population. India by itself has one fifth [ nearly ] of global population