India-Australia News and Discussion

[SRajesh]

Dear Mods and forum members I apologise for my haste in naming a community without any proof
My sincere apologies
I have not deleted the post as a reminder to myself to be careful next time.

[rahulm]

A new one:

Sydney bishop among multiple people allegedly stabbed at church in Sydney's south-west

A Sydney bishop is among multiple people stabbed during a church service in the city's south-west on Monday night.

The attack occurred at Christ The Good Shepherd Church in Wakeley, with graphic video showing a man lunging at Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel with something in his hand during a mass that was being broadcast online.

NSW Ambulance said three other people were also stabbed.

NSW Police said a male was arrested at the scene and "he has been removed from the church and taken to an undisclosed location".

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[rahulm]

Overnight not much more news seems to be available except:

• The perps fingers were chopped by the ROL attendees before the police got got there

• Police "locked" up the rep in the Church with ~500 ROLers baying outside for the perp to be handed over to them

• Western Sydney is on the edge. (This area has a very high % of immigrants from all over the world)

• Police had to deploy Tactical Armoured Vehicles - these are actually siege vehicles and their deployment is very rare in Australia

• Perp identity has not been revealed by the Police yet - internet is abuzz with rumours the perp shouted AoA before stabbing. I have seen the vdo (it was live) and cant hear any AoA.

[rahulm]

Australia invokes emergency censorship powers to remove "hateful and objectionable content" after 2 back to back stabbings.

Australian Government 1984 censorship is now a reality. From the horses mouth - hear eSafety commissioner Julie Inman Grant

I wonder if democracy, freedom of speech is now in danger in Oz. Took only 2 stabbings for Australia to get to censorship.

[Manish_P]

...

I wonder if democracy, freedom of speech is now in danger in Oz. Took only 2 stabbings for Australia to get to censorship.

Needs to be hammered in their racist faces everytime they get a bit uppity.

As a bare minimum need some small city association like the 'Jhumri Talaiyya Worldwide Freedom of Speech for Human Rights Watch' to issue a statement demanding Australia protect the rights of this mentally disturbed immigrant

[KL Dubey]

A new one:

.... showing a man lunging at Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel

OT on:

As a Hin-dee speaker, I have to say the bishop unfortunately got some "mar-mari"....

Alternatively for aficionados of american colloqualisms - the assaulter decided "I'm going to beat the bishop today".

OT off.

Gawd alone knows what all is going on in Convicts' Own Country....not to be confused with God's Own Kandry.

[drnayar]

Australia invokes emergency censorship powers to remove "hateful and objectionable content" after 2 back to back stabbings.

Australian Government 1984 censorship is now a reality. From the horses mouth - hear eSafety commissioner Julie Inman Grant

I wonder if democracy, freedom of speech is now in danger in Oz. Took only 2 stabbings for Australia to get to censorship.

the news is not complete ..why would 2 stabbings cause ""Resources from all across Sydney were brought in to assist police on the ground who were calling for help, that's how dynamic it was, that's how confronting it was, and that's how precarious it was."

interesting , the incident is more than that

[rahulm]

^^

The angry ROL mob had swelled to ~ 500 and were attacking the police. Many police cars were badly damaged. This is a very unusual situation in Oz. Doesn't happen. The situation could have got out of hand very easily had reinforcements not arrived on time.

the incident has created :

1. Calls for "managing release of socially sensitive information" from media and politicians
2. Grim and determined call from Minister Minns for people not to engage in vigilante retaliatory attacks.
3. X and Musk are being pilloried by talk back anchors for promoting "hateful content"
4. Peace ools are being asked by other peace fools to mobilise and congregate at mosques as a show of force to prevent and fend off retaliatory attacks.
5. Gobarmint is calling it a "religiously motivated terrorist act" but they and the media are refusing to specify the religion.

This has all the ingredients of a powder keg. Lets see what happened here on Fridin and then Sundin when the ROPs and ROLs congregate.

The perp is a non-local to the area. He came to the area to commit the terrorist attack. Since he is 16 years old ie.e. minor it complicates matters.

Mean-e-while from the Bondi Westfield stabbings; the ROPer, commie and liberandu gang found Benjamin Cohen a jewish look alike on SM and spread the news on SM that he was the killer. 7 News got hold of it and ran with it until the bolis eventually announced it was somebody else. Gentle Ben is now suing 7 News with a big profile lawyer representing him. . He will prolly get a few big bucks. Benjamin Cohen was falsely accused of the Bondi Junction stabbings. Here's how the lie spread around the world

[rahulm]

Bhel bhel, looks like the Assyrian Church stabbing 16 year old was a ROPer.

Lebanese Muslim Association says mosques under threat following Sydney church stabbing

A stoush is developing between the Lebanese Muslim Association and NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb over whether this was a terrorist incident or not.

Mr Kheir said ...... questioned whether labelling the stabbing of a bishop in south-west Sydney as a "terror incident" was too quick.

"All we're saying is, surely there was time for police to do a more thorough investigation and a review before they labelled that a terrorist act."

versus

NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb told RN Breakfast this morning she was satisfied the incident met the criteria of being a terrorism incident, based on the information she was provided.

This criteria includes the actions of the individual, whether there was a political, religious or ideological cause, and whether it was done with the intention of intimidation.

"I made that declaration without any hesitation," Ms Webb said.

and the usual

Muslim community in fear amid rise in Islamophobia

The Islamophobia Register Australia recorded a "significant spike" in reports of incidents, with 46 reported since Saturday.

"We've had bomb threats to mosques, we've had a Muslim woman who had her hijab pulled off, we've had online Islamophobia being reported to us, we've had vandalism and verbal threats," Ms Attai said.

She said Muslim women, in particular, were scared to go out in public due to fears of Islamophobic incidents.

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils issued an alert to Muslim leaders in light of "heightened tensions against the Muslim community".

[sanjayc]

And the non-Muslim community is in fear of the Muslims all over the world due to kaffir-phobia, which is a central tenet of Islam

[rahulm]

NSW Premier Chris Minns

ChrisMinnsMP has responded to the Sydney Church Stabbing Attack yesterday by stating that "if extra Commonwealth laws are required to take down webpages that are spreading (misinformation) then that is exactly what needs to happen" and that all community leaders should “act on advice and information that’s provided by the government.”

Errrr ummm, any thing in danger? e.g. freedom of speech, democracy? Is fascism on the rise? etc etc etc

[Lisa]

NSW Premier Chris Minns

ChrisMinnsMP has responded to the Sydney Church Stabbing Attack yesterday by stating that "if extra Commonwealth laws are required to take down webpages that are spreading (misinformation) then that is exactly what needs to happen" and that all community leaders should “act on advice and information that’s provided by the government.”

Errrr ummm, any thing in danger? e.g. freedom of speech, democracy? Is fascism on the rise? etc etc etc

Ji, you forget the old axiom, Do As I Say Not As I Do.

[Manish_P]

And the non-Muslim community is in fear of the Muslims all over the world due to kaffir-phobia, which is a central tenet of Islam

Phobia is greek for fear. The kaffirs are hated, not feared.. the correct term is Kaffir-misia

[ramana]

Australianissued a new National Security strategy today.
It's prinicipal pillar is support India.

[Manish_P]

Australianissued a new National Security strategy today.
It's prinicipal pillar is support India.

Ramana Sir, could you share the link of the statement/document..

I could locate it here - https://www.defence.gov.au/about/strate ... nt-program but it's not a easy to read format.

Partnership with India (primarily for monitoring) is mentioned for the IOR vide the comphrensive strategic partnership route but there is a lot of emphasis on the AUKUS (in addition to the obvious direct US alliance) and the 5-eyes group.

On a side note there is hardly any mention of the UK (independently) . With the passing of the queen looks like the australians might finally look to have a clean break with the UK monarchy.

Added - And become the 52nd state of the USA

[w.r.t a post by poster 'drnayar' in the UK thread]

[Rony]

And the non-Muslim community is in fear of the Muslims all over the world due to kaffir-phobia, which is a central tenet of Islam

Phobia is greek for fear. The kaffirs are hated, not feared.. the correct term is Kaffir-misia

That hatred is a coping mechanism out of fear only.

[sanjayc]

Not fear, but a tactic by founders to start a fresh business by delegitimizing the existing ones. Much like Pepsi coming to a fresh market, declaring Coke (the current favorite) to be poison, asking its limited set of Pepsi drinkers to get aggressive and destroy all existing Coke factories, and asking them to fan out in the society to introduce the masses to the new refreshing taste of Pepsi. Coke sellers are beaten up. Then, to perpetuate market share, young people are brought to Pepsi schools and kids of impressionable age brainwashed by making them repeat "Coke is poison" every couple of hours, five times a day, from morning to evening. "Smash a Coke bottle wherever you see it" is the order. Then, for generations, Pepsi dudes walk to the bank, laughing all the way. Just ask the Padres and Maulvis if this rings a bell.

[Manish_P]

Phobia is greek for fear. The kaffirs are hated, not feared.. the correct term is Kaffir-misia

That hatred is a coping mechanism out of fear only.

Kaffir-misia is abundantly seen even in pure Islamic countries where the kufr is not present. Even when the neighbouring countries are islamic. What's the fear then, Rony ji?

[rahulm]

Well, the lofty freedom and democracy standards of the Global Commentariat dont last the first instance of the penny dropping at home.

Government declares Australia 'is not going to be bullied by Elon Musk' after X refuses to remove harmful Wakeley material

In short:

• Social media giant X says it will not comply with requests from the eSafety commissioner to take down content referencing the Wakeley stabbing.

Owner of X Elon Musk called the commissioner the "Australian censorship commissar".

What's next? Government ministers say they expect social media companies to comply with Australian law and protect the community, and are prepared for a fight in court

.

• X said it had received a "demand" from the eSafety commissioner to take the posts down or face a daily fine of $785,000.

The office of the eSafety commissioner said it had "engaged" with major social media platforms in relation to the resharing and reposting of class one content that depicted "recent violence" in Sydney.

The Australian eSafety commissioner ordered X to remove certain posts in Australia that publicly commented on the recent attack against a Christian Bishop.

"If you operate in Australia, you should comply with the law. It's as simple as that," she said in a statement.

err well, except when others countries do the same , democracy, freedom and fundamental rights are in severe danger and declining. ack thoo.

On Friday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said social media companies had a responsibility to protect the community.

err except in non white countries where SM companies should have absolute freedom of speech even if that harms the community and any attempt otherwise is a fascist move.

[rahulm]

ABC journalist Avani Dias told routine visa extension would be denied, days after India targeted her work on YouTube

Err Dear entitled surrogate Aunty (BBC's faithfool sister), there is no err "routine visa extension". It's a privilege and at the complete discretion of the Bhartiya sarkar. Now sod off. Go and poke and meddle in your elder sisters (BBC's) posterior instead to cover all the crimes your four fathers and more committed in history.

Mean-e-while, Australia gears up to censor media~ Oh the irony and hypocrisy.

Some deal reached though:

After weeks of lobbying by Australian diplomats and the office of Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong, the Indian government finally overturned the decision and renewed the visa for two months – less than 24 hours before Dias was due to leave the country.

What and why was the deal reached?They should have made her leave the country and we should have listened to all her whining.

[rahulm]

Whitewashing Khalistanis, propaganda against Ram Mandir, lies about CAA: Meet Avani Dias, anti-India ‘journalist’ whose visa extension was temporarily denied by Modi govt

Looks like she left India inspite of the 2 month visa extension. Maybe that was the deal really with Penny W(r)ong - India extends visa but brown sepoy leaves anyway tp the comfort of the ABC office in Sydney. Looks like the Indian Teetar army has given her a proper education and needing drugs and medication.

[morem]

Indian twitter operates on the 'Modiji aap chunaotiyon se nipto, chutiyon se hum nipat lenge' mode

[rahulm]

The growing awareness of the impact and importance of Gurkha and Sikh troops during World War I

[Manish_P]

Indian twitter operates on the 'Modiji aap chunaotiyon se nipto, chutiyon se hum nipat lenge' mode

[rahulm]

Seven children arrested as part of joint counterterrorism team raids in Sydney following church stabbing

ON the eve of ANZAC Day (tomorrow) possibly aussie police have busted a terror plot just in time.''

Seven young people have been arrested and a further five are being questioned by police after a series of raids in south-west Sydney by the joint counterterrorism team (JCTT).

The raids are a response to the ongoing investigation into last week's stabbing attack at an Assyrian Orthodox church in city's south west.

There have been 13 raids carried out by 400 police.

They were conducted at properties in Bankstown, Prestons, Casula, Lurnea, Rydalmere, Greenacre, Strathfield, Chester Hill, and Punchbowl, as well as a premises in Goulburn.

and looks like Avani Dias is a fraud..

A new job and marriage lured Avani Dias back to Australia, not intimidation by Indian government

"Whatever little interaction I had with Avani, she lacked the depth to be reporting in a complex country like India."

[Aldonkar]

The growing awareness of the impact and importance of Gurkha and Sikh troops during World War I

My grandfather served in the Indian Army and was sent to Kenya to guard the (Indian) labourers building the Kenya - Uganda railway from attack of wild animals (predominantly lions). This was before WW1. Some time later he was deployed to fight Germans in Tanganyika which was a German colony at that time. The European British troops were mostly deployed in Europe, mostly Belgium/France and it fell to the Indian army to fight in East Africa. Despite being surrounded by enemy forces, the German troops in Tanganyika used guerrilla tactics to remain undefeated.

I was aware that Indians fought in Iraq as grandfather had friends who served there but this is the first time I have seen mention of them at Gallipoli. In over 50 years in the UK, the first 40 there was hardly any mention of any Asian or African troops especially in the first world was. In the last ten years or so I have begun to see photos of wounded Indian troops recuperating in the UK (at the Brighton Pavilion no less) and there have been a few articles about Indian troops serving in Europe.

Thanks for the article.

[hgupta]

The growing awareness of the impact and importance of Gurkha and Sikh troops during World War I

My grandfather served in the Indian Army and was sent to Kenya to guard the (Indian) labourers building the Kenya - Uganda railway from attack of wild animals (predominantly lions). This was before WW1. Some time later he was deployed to fight Germans in Tanganyika which was a German colony at that time. The European British troops were mostly deployed in Europe, mostly Belgium/France and it fell to the Indian army to fight in East Africa. Despite being surrounded by enemy forces, the German troops in Tanganyika used guerrilla tactics to remain undefeated.

I was aware that Indians fought in Iraq as grandfather had friends who served there but this is the first time I have seen mention of them at Gallipoli. In over 50 years in the UK, the first 40 there was hardly any mention of any Asian or African troops especially in the first world was. In the last ten years or so I have begun to see photos of wounded Indian troops recuperating in the UK (at the Brighton Pavilion no less) and there have been a few articles about Indian troops serving in Europe.

Thanks for the article.

The British did not wanted to be reminded that it was Indians who saved their asses as it would pierce their nearly invinciblility myth and that their white supreme race needed no saving from the colored uncivilized darkies.

[rahulm]

With the continuing rise in India's economic and geo-political heft, suppressed truths will inevitably see light.

[rahulm]

Influential former IS supporter Wassim Fayad drawn into probe of alleged Sydney teen terror network

In short: Wassim Fayad was questioned by the Joint Counter-Terrorism Team yesterday as part of police raids on an alleged terrorist network tied to a stabbing at a Sydney church last week.

Fayad was placed on an extended supervision order in 2021 because he was considered a high risk of committing a terrorism offence, but a judge rejected an application to extend the order last year.

What's next? Police say the investigation is ongoing, and five teenage boys have so far been charged. No charges have been laid against Fayad.

[Haresh]

The growing awareness of the impact and importance of Gurkha and Sikh troops during World War I

My grandfather served in the Indian Army and was sent to Kenya to guard the (Indian) labourers building the Kenya - Uganda railway from attack of wild animals (predominantly lions). This was before WW1. Some time later he was deployed to fight Germans in Tanganyika which was a German colony at that time. The European British troops were mostly deployed in Europe, mostly Belgium/France and it fell to the Indian army to fight in East Africa. Despite being surrounded by enemy forces, the German troops in Tanganyika used guerrilla tactics to remain undefeated.

I was aware that Indians fought in Iraq as grandfather had friends who served there but this is the first time I have seen mention of them at Gallipoli. In over 50 years in the UK, the first 40 there was hardly any mention of any Asian or African troops especially in the first world was. In the last ten years or so I have begun to see photos of wounded Indian troops recuperating in the UK (at the Brighton Pavilion no less) and there have been a few articles about Indian troops serving in Europe.

Thanks for the article.

There was a very good film made about the railroad construction and the lions attacking the Indian labourers.
The Ghost and the Darkness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost ... e_Darkness

[Amber G.]

Whitewashing Khalistanis, propaganda against Ram Mandir, lies about CAA: Meet Avani Dias, anti-India ‘journalist’ whose visa extension was temporarily denied by Modi govt

Looks like she left India inspite of the 2 month visa extension. Maybe that was the deal really with Penny W(r)ong - India extends visa but brown sepoy leaves anyway tp the comfort of the ABC office in Sydney. Looks like the Indian Teetar army has given her a proper education and needing drugs and medication.

Interestingly see xpost in US thread aboout:
Responding to a question by a Pakistani reporter on allegations of denial of visa renewal to Australian journalist, Avani Dias, US State Department Principal Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel said, "The Government of India can speak to its own visa policy. That's not something I'm going to opine on from here."

[chetak]

Whitewashing Khalistanis, propaganda against Ram Mandir, lies about CAA: Meet Avani Dias, anti-India ‘journalist’ whose visa extension was temporarily denied by Modi govt

Looks like she left India inspite of the 2 month visa extension. Maybe that was the deal really with Penny W(r)ong - India extends visa but brown sepoy leaves anyway tp the comfort of the ABC office in Sydney. Looks like the Indian Teetar army has given her a proper education and needing drugs and medication.

Interestingly see xpost in US thread aboout:
Responding to a question by a Pakistani reporter on allegations of denial of visa renewal to Australian journalist, Avani Dias, US State Department Principal Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel said, "The Government of India can speak to its own visa policy. That's not something I'm going to opine on from here."

Amber ji,


She left because:

she had worn out her India welcome by her uncouth behaviour.

She was to get married soon.

She had already accepted another job in AUS, so visa or no visa, she would not have stayed in any case

Fellow foreign journos in dilli opined that she was unqualified to handle a complex reporting job in India

avani auntie is srilankan and that should tell you a lot ...

She was stringing along her own company and boss, bashing the Modi govt, trying to build a woke reputation for "dragon slaying", and the foolish AUS govt, unaware of the actual issues on the ground, jumped in with both feet and wound up with egg on their faces

BTW, her visa was extended by the MEA for two months and it came through a day before she left, and yet she left

It's very unlikely that she will get an Indian visa again, at least, not in this lifetime

[rahulm]

India's Modi government operated 'nest of spies' in Australia before being disrupted by ASIO



India in the Aussie news for the right reasons as in big boy charges being laid.

[drnayar]

India's Modi government operated 'nest of spies' in Australia before being disrupted by ASIO



India in the Aussie news for the right reasons as in big boy charges being laid.

The western world is finding Indian spies everywhere ... Canada, America, Australia .. and what not. the 5 eyes are being eyed