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sanjaykumar wrote: 29 Apr 2024 22:44 There are some who say the border wall is anti catholic.
Will that stop the American Evangelists from not supporting in building the wall? They ardently want that wall.

What is good for the goose, is good for the gander no? Securing your border is fine. But me doing the same is somehow anti-Christian.

What kind of Lahori logic is this? When all else fails, pull out the Christian card. That train is never late.
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Paedophile Catholic priest, 77, who sexually abused five boys in string of horrific attacks dating back to the 1970s is jailed

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It's only superstition when it is brown people involved

The boy from London who will become the first millennial saint after performing miracles from beyond the grave: 'God's influencer' Carlo Acutis who died from leukaemia in 2006 is canonised by Pope for saving brain bleed victim and critically ill child

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Nepal on the X'ian conversion radar as well.
Gorkha recruits, arriving in UK. This video came into my YouTube feed (recommendations). Two things caught my attention;
1. One of the recruits have a name Mikhayal (Michael) Rai !
2. The Pandit-ji welcoming him was not a Nepali Gorkha but a white man. Either he converted to Hinduism (0-10% probability) or he is actually an X'ian padre in Nepali Pandit-ji attire (80-90% probability).
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Pope Francis shocks bishops by allegedly saying gay men should not be admitted to church seminaries because 'there's already too much f*****ry'

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Hasina said she was fighting a battle everywhere, both at home and abroad, and the “conspiracies are still on” to carve a new country out of Bangladesh.
“Like East Timor…they will carve out a Christian country, taking parts of Bangladesh (Chattogram) and Myanmar with a base in the Bay of Bengal,” Hasina said without providing any details.
https://www.news18.com/world/white-man- ... 06123.html
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sanjayc wrote: 28 May 2024 08:05
Hasina said she was fighting a battle everywhere, both at home and abroad, and the “conspiracies are still on” to carve a new country out of Bangladesh.
“Like East Timor…they will carve out a Christian country, taking parts of Bangladesh (Chattogram) and Myanmar with a base in the Bay of Bengal,” Hasina said without providing any details.
https://www.news18.com/world/white-man- ... 06123.html
Donald Lu?
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Manish_P wrote: 28 May 2024 11:14
Donald Lu?

Nothing new here, Manish saar ......


The amrekis have been trying the same game in the NE, with the active connivance of the congi and commie "secularists", which is why the entire Indian NE has been isolated and cut off from mainland India for 70 odd years with all weather road, increased air, and rail connectivity coming in only very recently under the Modi govt.

The entire manipur burning issue is being backed openly by the padres, the drug mafia and the hans

The culinary institute has been very active in this neck of the woods since 1947.

East timor is still their preferred game plan and if they can operate unhindered from beediland and infiltrate from beedi secular "safe havens" what could be better to further their objectives than to swallow the NE, cut off at the chicken's neck.

The Siliguri Corridor, also known as the Chicken's Neck, is a stretch of land around the city of Siliguri in West Bengal, India. 20–22 kilometres (12–14 mi) at the narrowest section, this very vulnerable geo-political, geo-strategic, and geo-economic corridor connects the seven states of northeast India to the rest of the Indian Republic.

No wonder the commies have controlled Indian bengal for much of the 70 odd years since 1947. The demographic changes enforced in this critical area has not come about by accidence or happenstance, and mumtaz bano is, first and foremost, a commie islamofacist puppet.

There is already a strong separatist agenda that has been instilled in the region which has and is being strongly enflamed by the BIF

why focus on irrelevant personalities like lu when it has been the amrikis declared objective from 1947, aided and abetted by the self loathing ponga pandit and self declared cultured jihadi, with an abrahamic "keep" on the side
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chetak wrote: 28 May 2024 11:37
Manish_P wrote: 28 May 2024 11:14

Donald Lu?

Nothing new here, Manish saar ......


The amrekis have been trying the same game in the NE, with the active connivance of the congi and commie "secularists", which is why the entire Indian NE has been isolated and cut off from mainland India for 70 odd years with all weather road, increased air, and rail connectivity coming in only very recently under the Modi govt.

The entire manipur burning issue is being backed openly by the padres, the drug mafia and the hans

The culinary institute has been very active in this neck of the woods since 1947.

East timor is still their preferred game plan and if they can operate unhindered from beediland and infiltrate from beedi secular "safe havens" what could be better to further their objectives than to swallow the NE, cut off at the chicken's neck.

The Siliguri Corridor, also known as the Chicken's Neck, is a stretch of land around the city of Siliguri in West Bengal, India. 20–22 kilometres (12–14 mi) at the narrowest section, this very vulnerable geo-political, geo-strategic, and geo-economic corridor connects the seven states of northeast India to the rest of the Indian Republic.

No wonder the commies have controlled Indian bengal for much of the 70 odd years since 1947. The demographic changes enforced in this critical area has not come about by accidence or happenstance, and mumtaz bano is, first and foremost, a commie islamofacist puppet.

There is already a strong separatist agenda that has been instilled in the region which has and is being strongly enflamed by the BIF

why focus on irrelevant personalities like lu when it has been the amrikis declared objective from 1947, aided and abetted by the self loathing ponga pandit and self declared cultured jihadi, with an abrahamic "keep" on the side
I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that the American Constitution has banned the right of States/Territories to secede and leave the Union of the United States. But they have no problem breaking other nations up.
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chetak wrote: 28 May 2024 11:37
Manish_P wrote: 28 May 2024 11:14

Donald Lu?
...
why focus on irrelevant personalities like lu when it has been the amrikis declared objective from 1947, aided and abetted by the self loathing ponga pandit and self declared cultured jihadi, with an abrahamic "keep" on the side
Well aware of that, Chetak Sir.

Just wondered who was the 'White' 'Man' who was the messenger that Hasina Bano was referring to?

Donald Lu is the obvious suspect.

But he is not exactly white (Chinese ancestors)
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A fascinating discussion between Rajiv Malhotra with Eduardo Andino, "How Christianity Overtook Europe".

Rajiv makes the point that the West is an amalgam of different cultures and people brought together in an uneasy synthesis through lot of violence and bloodshed. Mr. Andino vociferously disputes Rajiv's claim and tries to establish that the violence was not as widespread and gory as Rajiv makes it out to be.

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https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/ramif ... 78169.html
Ramification | Why Sheikh Hasina’s ‘Christian country’ statement should ring alarm bells in India
Published on 3rd, June 24
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More than half of Republicans support Christian nationalism, according to a new survey

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/14/11566425 ... to-a-new-s
Long seen as a fringe viewpoint, Christian nationalism now has a foothold in American politics, particularly in the Republican Party — according to a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution.
Christian nationalism is a worldview that claims the U.S. is a Christian nation and that the country's laws should therefore be rooted in Christian values. This point of view has long been most prominent in white evangelical spaces but lately it's been getting lip service in Republican ones, too.

During an interview at a Turning Point USA event last August, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., said party leaders need to be more responsive to the base of the party, which she claimed is made up of Christian nationalists.

"We need to be the party of nationalism," she said. "I am a Christian and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists."

At its root there are some deeply antidemocratic impulses here," Du Mez said. "So, to see that more than half of one political party is committed to Christian nationalism I think explains a lot in terms of our ability to achieve much bipartisan agreement."

The survey also found correlations between people who hold Christian nationalist views as well as Anti-Black, anti-immigrant, antisemitic views, anti-Muslim and patriarchal views. (Anti - Hindu too, just not listed here)
We need to understand that the world of Christian nationalism largely rejects pluralism
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https://swarajyamag.com/world/banglades ... south-asia
Is this the reason for Manipur burning??
Creating of new 'Zogam'!!
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This probably the best thread to post: :evil: TN government moving to erase Hinduism from Children thru school code of conduct (to fight casteism :wink:)

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/tami ... ls-3071587
The committee also pushed for a Code of Discipline for all students which should be strictly enforced within legal bounds and made it clear that students should be prohibited from wearing any coloured wristbands, rings, or forehead marks.
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^^ Well, Tamil Hindus are co-conspirators in their own demise by consistently and blindly voting for DMK (which is just an extension of the church). No one can help a race which lacks rudimentary intelligence and survival skills
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sanjayc wrote: 19 Jun 2024 07:59 ^^ Well, Tamil Hindus are co-conspirators in their own demise by consistently and blindly voting for DMK (which is just an extension of the church). No one can help a race which lacks rudimentary intelligence and survival skills
Sir, please. This othering of an entire state whether it is in the case of Bengal, Punjab, AP, TN etc.. is kind of petulant.
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Swaroop wrote: 19 Jun 2024 12:07
sanjayc wrote: 19 Jun 2024 07:59 ^^ Well, Tamil Hindus are co-conspirators in their own demise by consistently and blindly voting for DMK (which is just an extension of the church). No one can help a race which lacks rudimentary intelligence and survival skills
Sir, please. This othering of an entire state whether it is in the case of Bengal, Punjab, AP, TN etc.. is kind of petulant.

The dravidiya parties are as bad as the bengali one, in terms of violence, intimidation and enforcement

One is very crude because they don't care, and the other is sophisticated and suave in its all encompassing and total corruption

the dravidiyas bribe very heavily if required, and ensure that the paid for votes come in without fail

If not, the consequences can be very painful, if not fatal

That is how Annamalai got done in, it was a joint admk and dmk requirement to stop this common existential threat

The time to play nice on a unilateral basis is what got us into this mess in the very first place, because this fatal self-harming inclination to somehow accommodate the "other" view, this masochistic streak, this unconditional welcoming of "all", this foolish "we don't hurt anyone, we are tolerant, insistent on equality, and sickular" is a fatal civilizational and cultural flaw that others have taken full advantage of for over 1400 years now.

No "other" has ever reciprocated this Indic and dharmic view, not in the past, not now, and they will never, ever reciprocate for all times to come

Even our "neighbourhood policy" is based on "non reciprocity, we will give, give, give and the "others" will take , take, take and continue to spit on us.

maldives is a very recent case in point

Swaroop ji, open your eyes at least now.
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chetak wrote: 19 Jun 2024 12:20
Swaroop wrote: 19 Jun 2024 12:07
Sir, please. This othering of an entire state whether it is in the case of Bengal, Punjab, AP, TN etc.. is kind of petulant.

The dravidiya parties ......
...
Swaroop ji, open your eyes at least now.
Whoa! Chetak ji, you just othered me :)
We are on the same side and my eyes are very much open. My comment was directed at a specific post and usage of words. Are all "Tamil Hindus" co-conspirators? Are all Bengalis anti-national? What about the ones putting up a fight?
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Swaroop wrote: 19 Jun 2024 12:46
chetak wrote: 19 Jun 2024 12:20


The dravidiya parties ......
...
Swaroop ji, open your eyes at least now.
Whoa! Chetak ji, you just othered me :)
We are on the same side and my eyes are very much open. My comment was directed at a specific post and usage of words. Are all "Tamil Hindus" co-conspirators? Are all Bengalis anti-national? What about the ones putting up a fight?


Swaroop ji, open your eyes because it is the totalitarian fascist bengali state and the totalitarian fascist dravidiya state that have truly "othered" us, and both are vital border states. This is not a mere coincidence and the congis are complicit in all this BIF mischief since even before independence

The totalitarian fascist aap is, right now, playing out the BIF agenda in punjab, even as we speak and in some places in punjab, the BJP karyakarthas were physically intimated and prevented from campaigning

Tell me, why would the US, germany and the UN worry about khujliwal to the extent of publicly interfering in our internal affairs.

what is khujliwal to them and how does he fit in with their nefarious agendas in India

can we hope to get justice from the UN on cashmere, for example or were we deliberately stiffed by the UN in 1947 and thereafter, when chacha, with his african toothache induced tunnel vision, was "convinced" to take the matter to the UN

When has any country that has thrown off the shackles of brutal colonialism, meekly and so very cooperatively, continued the all encompassing ecosystem of the colonizer, the colonial administration, the judiciary, the police, intelligence services which continued to report to the britshits long after 1947, the legal and military systems that were solely made by the colonizer to exclusively benefit the colonizers who were hated by the masses but revered by the "leaders" and the colonizer's favorites, to the colonizers sole benefit. Why are much of those colonial legacy systems operative even today, in 2024

usually, such disruptive regime changes leave the roads running with blood for many weeks, often decorated by the plentifully severed heads of the collaborators as the freed mobs "celebrate" their throwing off of the foreign yoke

But, what did our "leaders" do, and why ...

The colonizers, aided by the amrikis, simply continued the "Great Game" that was re-contextualized anew to those times and geographies, post WWII, and the geopolitics that they foresaw going forward, especially the oil and gas resources of the gulf, the suez, and their great power imperatives to garner those resources for themselves and thus they needed a local ally(ies) whom they implicitly controlled, to protect not their interests but also to ensure a permanent presence in the region to assure their puppets' safety.

So, tell me saar, why is a mafia family, from a country in southern and western europe wielding such corrosive power in the politics of India and who exactly is supporting them .... and the why do the desert cults have us by the short and curlies, in bengal, dravidiya nadu, NE, AP, punjab, KER, and so many other places, especially when the majority is 80% +

Swaroop ji, I repeat, open your eyes please
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Saudi News | Saudi Says 1,301 Deaths During Hajj, Mostly Unregistered Pilgrims



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krithivas wrote:TN government moving to erase Hinduism from Children thru school code of conduct (to fight casteism :wink:)
Deccan Herald reports says this is just a report from an enquiry/judicial commission and so this is just a proposal. The government has not implemented any recommendations yet. Such commission reports are generally advisory in nature. And note the caveat made by the commission itself; Code of Discipline for all students which should be strictly enforced within legal bounds. This means that many recommendations are in gray area/zone.

It might be a perverse feeling, but need to put it here. All that DMK and dravidiyas have achieved as part of their caste eradication is only make life of Tamil Brahmin community miserable (Jews & Nazis can be a close example). They were miniscule and not prone to violence. They were hounded out, but yet they survived (just like Jews). Today the caste fights in Tamil Nadu and between the Other Backward Community v/s Most Backward Community v/s Extremely Backward community etc. Which means DMK (and ADMK) have not been able to make any social revolution or change in societial outlook all this while. And looks like they are not going to achieve it either. Perhaps these groups in TN, deserve all this. My frank opinion is that; even large scale conversion to X'tianity would not curb this process of fighting. DMK and Dravidiyas fight an imaginary all pervasive Brahmin caste supremacy/hegemony, while it is only the common Tamil villager who is killing or getting killed.
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From second class Hindus to fourth class Christians.

Come to the west and see how impressed they are with this religious Ferber.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 25 Jun 2024 21:37 From second class Hindus to fourth class Christians.

Come to the west and see how impressed they are with this religious fervour.
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Sachin wrote: 25 Jun 2024 20:40

Perhaps these groups in TN, deserve all this. My frank opinion is that; even large scale conversion to X'tianity would not curb this process of fighting. DMK and Dravidiyas fight an imaginary all pervasive Brahmin caste supremacy/hegemony, while it is only the common Tamil villager who is killing or getting killed.
But the DMK leadership is wealthy beyond imagination, they own 2 IPL teams, 25% of TN economy, Inbanidhi Udaynidhi has a ball in Germany. Many of the families which cooperated with the British have enjoyed the fruits over the last 80 years and thier next 3 generations are set. So why should they change? Tamil Media is in their pocket

Many in TN seem happy in slums, drinking and voting DMK and AIDMK which falls at thier feet, after Jayalalitha's death , many AIDMK leaders seem to be bought over by the DMK.

They seem to have a perfect and easy life.
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The core teaching of Hinduism is to realise that 'I' or jeevatma is a mind-made illusion. This realisation is called moksha or liberation.

I am giving a short summary of the Bible and Eckhart Tolle's best-seller book ' The Power of Now ' and its sequel which teaches a similar concept.

Eckhart said that traditionally we are trying to suppress our negative feelings and desires. Though necessary it will have side effects. Suppression means mental conflicts and sooner or later it will manifest in our life as diseases or negative events in our life. He suggests that we should realise that 'I' is an illusion. Then joy and harmony from God will flow through us. The Bible statements,
1. Confess that you are sinners..
2. You must die to live..
3. Truth will set you free..
4. "I and Father are one", by Jesus
are most likely related to this.

For those who are unable to deeply go into the concept of I as an illusion; Eckhart suggests meditation-like practice to fully focus on the present moment, whether we are at work or resting. In other words, no mind chatter. Many studies are showing the beneficiary effects of meditation and doctors also recommend it; saying that it is good for the body and mind. The Bible statement; "Be still, and know that I am God", is similar to this. Eckhart says that the present moment on which we focus has everything. My understanding is that it is related to the scientific fact that past, present and future already exist in the present moment. Thus to emphasize this point he named his book, The Power of Now.
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bala is saying in reply to the above that they are appropriation attempts. Link: viewtopic.php?p=2624651#p2624651

My reply:
I will not say these are appropriation attempts. As many Hindu seers commented, Hinduism is the mother religion/Dharma and other religions are a heavily edited variant of Hinduism. Plenty of references there that point out the similarity of teachings of Hinduism and other religions. Listing a few of them here,
1. If your eye is single, your whole body will be full of light (from the older King James version of Bible=third eye in Hinduism)
2. Moses raised the serpent in the wilderness. Jesus- "Be wise as serpent". (Kundalini raising represented as serpent)
3. Adam and Eve eating the fruit from the middle of the garden and got expelled from heaven= sex experience is the fruit of the lowest chakra, astral body is the garden as explained in the famous book Autobiography of a Yogi. Yogananda's guru also wrote a book pointing out the similarity in Hindu and Bible teachings.
4. Early Christians believed in reincarnation. The church later banned that concept.
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Hriday wrote: 10 Jul 2024 21:54 bala is saying in reply to the above that they are appropriation attempts. Link: viewtopic.php?p=2624651#p2624651

My reply:
I will not say these are appropriation attempts. As many Hindu seers commented, Hinduism is the mother religion/Dharma and other religions are a heavily edited variant of Hinduism. Plenty of references there that point out the similarity of teachings of Hinduism and other religions. Listing a few of them here,
...
.....
Few more about the origin of Christianity from Hinduism. Maybe spreading the below may help in ghar wapasi or at least reduce the possibility of anti-Hindu activities by Christians.

1.
Swami Abhedananda, direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa and brother disciple of Swami Vivekananda had said in his book that he had accessed old documents kept in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery that proves Jesus Christ's connection with India. An extract from the below link is given here.
https://www.vedanta.com/store/Abhedanan ... _tibet.htm
The old manuscript that they showed Sw. Abhedananda says that Christ moved to India at 13, partially to escape his parents and keep them from forcing him to marry. During Christ's travels in India, he learned how to read and understand the Vedas. He later spent 6 years with Buddhists and learned Pali and studied all the Buddhist scriptures. The swami further says, "The lama said that after resurrection, Jesus Christ came secretly to Kashmir and lived in a monastery surrounded by many disciples."
2.
There is an interesting book, 'Jesus lived in India', by Holger Kersten. I read the book over 10 years ago, but too lazy to give a summary. There is a mention of an old Kashmiri folklore of a saint (sant) escaping persecution and finding refuge in Kashmir. Roza Bal shrine in Kashmir, which is said to be connected with Jesus's burial place also discussed in the book.
There is an interesting Wikipedia link describing Yuz Asaf (Jesus) and his connection with Kashmir. Link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuz_Asaf

3.
Nicholas Notovich, a traveller is the first one who mentioned that he had accessed old Buddhist documents related to Jesus's close association with India. Later he retracted his statement.(possibly under pressure)

4.
For those who are interested in going deeper into the esoteric and to find the similarity between the teachings of religions try relevant posts of @OMApproach. A few links are given below.
A.
https://x.com/OMApproach/status/1753413 ... FQcsQ&s=19

B.
https://x.com/OMApproach/status/1766451 ... KxuzA&s=19

5.
There is a book by Pandit Satish K Sharma, in which a church official is quoted as that ancient Indian Varna practice is detrimental to spreading Christianity as there is no birth-based discrimination and hence no grievances. So with church support, the British enforced the birth-based caste determination in the census and over time every one absorbed that idea.
Later it was easy to convert lower castes citing the birth-based caste discrimination.
https://www.amazon.in/Caste-Conversion- ... 1838266216

There is also an award-winning Malayalam book by IPS K. Sethuraman which provides proof that genetic, old social customs and historical records show that birth-based caste practices were introduced only in recent history due to politics and power grabbing. However, I doubt if these literatures are sufficiently promoted or discussed in public.
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No birth based discrimination.

The angry dude condemns babies to hellfire. But we will maintain the love and peace and flowers fiction.
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"Humanitarians" such as these vultures are against the implementation of CAA in India


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^^ Some of these South Korean dudes are involved in India too. A few are absolutely fanatic Bible thumpers
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The ardour of the concert. Parallels the self hate.
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Re: Christianity, Evangelism & its geopolitical impact

Post by JE Menon »

A lot of people are unaware that, during Sonia's reign, they even made a documentary through Doordarshan about Christ spending time in India, etc... The intention at the time was, I suspect, to make the conversion of Hindus easier because, hey "Christ was also here like the Buddha"...



Another curiosity: try to use any of the Ai image creators to make an image where Krishna is teaching Christ, i.e. where Christ is sitting down or is shorter than Krishna and the latter appears to be giving lessons to Christ. Almost impossible. You really have to do some serious word magic on the query to get that output.
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