Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Matter of perspective and personal experience mostly.
Beach vacations for us implies California or Hawaii (until island fever kicks in). And the rest of the world is just flyover territory you speed by while traveling between US and India. Goa has always seemed positively cheap in comparison even in December.
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vera_k wrote: 23 Aug 2024 07:32 Matter of perspective and personal experience mostly.
Beach vacations for us implies California or Hawaii (until island fever kicks in).
CA beaches are cooold. Hawa'ii beaches are the best. I loved Puerto Rico beaches even more. Goa beaches are really warm and nice. If you are vegetarian, CA maybe better (though there too fish and seafood dominate). As it is OT, will stop here.
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I avoid the beach. I come back after 30 minutes looking like I’m from a different continent.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 24 Aug 2024 03:52 I avoid the beach. I come back after 30 minutes looking like I’m from a different continent.
:rotfl: I am totally with you.

Keep in mind the ratios of uv a and b has changed due to thinning of ozone layer. So sunbaths are high health risk now compared to 10years back
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Latest from Al-bartannia

Irony in action: UK crime minister's bag stolen during anti-theft speech
Irony was in full display when the UK’s police and crime minister, Dame Diana Johnson, had her bag stolen at a police conference.

The incident occurred while Johnson addressed the Police Superintendents' Association in central England, speaking about the alarming rise in theft and shoplifting plaguing the country.
:mrgreen:
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Manish_P wrote: 12 Sep 2024 21:24 Latest from Al-bartannia

Irony in action: UK crime minister's bag stolen during anti-theft speech
Irony was in full display when the UK’s police and crime minister, Dame Diana Johnson, had her bag stolen at a police conference.

The incident occurred while Johnson addressed the Police Superintendents' Association in central England, speaking about the alarming rise in theft and shoplifting plaguing the country.
:mrgreen:


Manish ji,


this is why shampoo boy said that the sun never set on the britishit empire because even god couldn't trust the englishman in the dark
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UK Becoming a 3rd World Economy

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jwq58z7vgo

Yet another aberration of Christian culture. Or should that be from Christian culture?
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sanman wrote: 26 Sep 2024 19:07 UK Becoming a 3rd World Economy

[youtube]OTWDzMjgsEY[/youtube
It is already. A third world economy with a strong currency ! [ the moment they devalue the pound , the financial markets will collapse and capital flies ]
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Usually called as Bulgaria on the Channel with London and South East. Bulgaria however has better ski resorts, summer, beaches and food since it’s closer to Turkey. :rotfl:
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NHS worker mother-of-three, 37, was raped 'again and again until she died' while unconscious on a park bench after night out, court hears

"Iidow Mohamed, 35, is accused of taking advantage of her in the early hours of July 17, 2021. He denies rape and manslaughter."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... bench.html
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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar ... -vllbzstmc

UK gives up Chagos Islands in deal with Mauritius

Britain will no longer have sovereignty over the strategically important archipelago in the Indian Ocean but a British-American military base will stay on Diego Garcia
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Furious Tories accuse Keir Starmer of 'surrendering' Chagos Islands to an 'ally of Beijing' after historic sovereignty deal with Mauritius

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -base.html
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these clowns seem to be welcoming everyone except for the Indians


What fun to be a migrant in UK when ⁦@10DowningStreet⁩ is providing room service and ⁦@UKLabour⁩ is doing the housekeeping.



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chetak wrote: 03 Oct 2024 22:40 these clowns seem to be welcoming everyone except for the Indians


What fun to be a migrant in UK when ⁦@10DowningStreet⁩ is providing room service and ⁦@UKLabour⁩ is doing the housekeeping.



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how nice., now they could potentially claim an ILR by 3 years !
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Haresh wrote: 03 Oct 2024 18:13 Furious Tories accuse Keir Starmer of 'surrendering' Chagos Islands to an 'ally of Beijing' after historic sovereignty deal with Mauritius

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -base.html
Every right to be furious. These islands are inalienably British. This claim is not remotely as ludicrous as Russian demands for a Russian Crimea that is contiguous to their own nation being brought back into their fold irrespective of the fact that its population os 90% Russian and that the Chagos islands have never had an indigenous Englishman or the fact that 9000 kilometers separates these two points!
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The colonial hangover is tough to get rid of. France and UK have a wide footprint what with the countries spanning 12 and 9 time zones respectively.
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vera_k wrote: 05 Oct 2024 02:30 The colonial hangover is tough to get rid of. ..
Especially if the previous colonies are involved in freeing the other colonies

Behind the scenes: India’s quiet diplomacy in UK's return of Chagos Islands to Mauritius
India played a quiet yet significant contribution in the historic transfer of the sovereignty of the Chagos Islands from the United Kingdom to Mauritius. According to ANI sources, India had steadfastly and unwaveringly advocated for "the need to do away with the last vestiges of colonisation" during the negotiations.


The joint statement released by UK and Mauritius also acknowledged New Delhi's involvement in the matter. The statement specifically mentioned, "In reaching today's political agreement, we have enjoyed the full support and assistance of our close partners, the United States of America and the Republic of India." :twisted: :D
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No justice: The 11 men that have committed sickening crimes against women and children but walked FREE since paedophile BBC presenter Huw Edwards dodged jail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -jail.html
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Birmingham is $hitistan literally
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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/royal-famil ... -7gmlzkcqq

Charles won’t stand in the way if Australians want a republic
The King, who will undertake an 11-day trip to the country, has decided to take an anti-confrontational approach to republican campaigners
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As usual with Britains best selling rag, it's the comments that tell you what people really think.

Contender for next Commonwealth chief warns Britain owes India 'more money than it has' as Keir Starmer braces for reparations row at Samoa summit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ummit.html
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I guess once demand for reparations go up they will themselves disband the Commonwealth :mrgreen: they are already short of money to fix potholes !
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I would take a wager on the above :D UK may be forced out of the commonwealth out of embarrassment! So strange, Russia must pay for Ukrainian events but not a single European nation bears any responsibility for Colonisation or Slavery.

I find it even stranger that there has been no movement in the UN General Assembly to debate and vote on the same. It would be extremely interesting to see who votes how with the knowledge of recent anti Russian votes and attempts to portray such votes as the voice of the International Community. If such motions were carried to the Security Council then even more interested to who uses a Veto.

Time has come for reparations dialogue, Commonwealth heads agree

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c207m3m0xpjo
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There seems to be some kind of poetic jsutice in sending the minister for parliamentary and minority affairs to the CHOGM meeting, to interact with actual heads of government from other Commonwealth states. Probably one step up from sending the minister for animal husbandry. Can't offend our nice Samoan hosts that much.
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Former vicar, 80, admits to rape and gross indecency on boy under 14 in the late 1990s when he was serving at a Baptist church and used a different name

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -name.html
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BBC ON TRIAL - FULL DOCUMENTARY 2024 | GHF PRESENTS | #BBCOnTrial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QS6Zs3RenY
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X-post from Foreign Policy- Pertinent to India UK relations. UK trying to payback India for Chagos Island loss.


Mukesh.Kumar wrote: 09 Nov 2024 12:59 Another one on the perfidious Albuon.

Rather than fume we should take a page out of their book to learn how countries exact penalties from others.

Following the renegotiation of the Chagos Islands sovereignty issue, where the UK head to cede to Mauritius, those guys are slowly raising the ante on the Indian and Mauritian naval listening post deal.

Today BBC carries an article- Is this tiny Mauritian island a confidential spy station?- click bait headline and massive rona- dhona on why India baad. Draws an equivalence to Chagos Islands.

This alone would not have mattered for mebut the fact that yesterday I came across a strange article on reddit- India showing to corruption in Mauritius and why there President's wife is anti India with suppressed leaked audio tapes.

Lessons:
1. If you want to play with the big bits you need to punish anyone who interferes
2. You need to build a wide set of media options to malign.
3. Build Human Rights bodies which are ostensibly independent and can be denied as under government control to create trouble.

Forecast:
Over the coming months we will see protests against the Indian base loomed by the usual human rights orgs.
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Lisa wrote: 26 Oct 2024 15:40 I would take a wager on the above :D UK may be forced out of the commonwealth out of embarrassment! So strange, Russia must pay for Ukrainian events but not a single European nation bears any responsibility for Colonisation or Slavery.

I find it even stranger that there has been no movement in the UN General Assembly to debate and vote on the same. It would be extremely interesting to see who votes how with the knowledge of recent anti Russian votes and attempts to portray such votes as the voice of the International Community. If such motions were carried to the Security Council then even more interested to who uses a Veto.

Time has come for reparations dialogue, Commonwealth heads agree

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c207m3m0xpjo
https://taxjustice.net/2020/06/09/slave ... %20history.

Compensation Loan, reparations and tax havenry

It’s hard to believe but it was only in 2015 that, according to the Treasury, British taxpayers finished ‘paying off’ the debt which the British government incurred in order to compensate British slave owners in 1835 because of the abolition of slavery. Abolition meant their profiteering from human misery would (gradually) come to an end. Not a penny was paid to those who were enslaved and brutalised.

The British government borrowed £20 million to compensate slave owners, which amounted to a massive 40 percent of the Treasury’s annual income or about 5 percent of British GDP. The loan was one of the largest in history.
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Remarkable. That commerce in human bodies was such a profitable enterprise.

There will never be reparations because there can never be sufficient capital to fund reparations.
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UK-India trade talks to re-launch in the new year: Kier Starmer


Boosting trade abroad is essential to delivering a strong economy at home. The UK is committed to negotiating a trade deal with India - one of the fastest growing economies in the world, the statement said

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
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chetak wrote: 20 Nov 2024 11:35 UK-India trade talks to re-launch in the new year: Kier Starmer
Boosting trade abroad is essential to delivering a strong economy at home. The UK is committed to negotiating a trade deal with India - one of the fastest growing economies in the world, the statement said
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
Just more chai-biskoot... oh sorry, High Tea & Cucumber Sandwiches
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Chetakji
There is a epic take down of the incumbent UK Business Secretary by Nigel Farage (yes he is crazy :lol: )
The current gent has never ever worked in life (meaning a proper job!!) :roll:
He is used to be the ex MP's assistant and got the ticket
This guy is going to lead the talks!!
So you can imagine the woke leftist crap included in the trade talks and its never going to succeed!!
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SRajesh wrote: 20 Nov 2024 16:03 Chetakji
There is a epic take down of the incumbent UK Business Secretary by Nigel Farage (yes he is crazy :lol: )
The current gent has never ever worked in life (meaning a proper job!!) :roll:
He is used to be the ex MP's assistant and got the ticket
This guy is going to lead the talks!!
So you can imagine the woke leftist crap included in the trade talks and its never going to succeed!!

SRajesh ji,

One has the feeling that our erstwhile colonial masters are being taught a much needed lesson in geopolitical manners, lessons that started with aunty theresa may
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For those who do not remember,

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 374616.cms

Labour Party concerned about Kashmiri human rights

Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry said Britain would incorporate human rights into any post-Brexit trade deal with India under Labour and her party is concerned about Kashmiri human rights."
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Lisa wrote: 20 Nov 2024 17:55 For those who do not remember,

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 374616.cms

Labour Party concerned about Kashmiri human rights

Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry said Britain would incorporate human rights into any post-Brexit trade deal with India under Labour and her party is concerned about Kashmiri human rights."
Emily Thornberry is as thick as two short planks. She is playing for the peacefool vote and intent on importing more of the radical shantidhoots.
https://www.emilythornberry.com/your-ca ... or-gazans/
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This is how far the authorities have fallen, they are scared of the peaceful's

https://www.thejc.com/news/imams-destro ... e-ag1bysjs
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The BBC is literally never going to recover from this.


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So sad, it's actually funny

British teen, 18, facing 20 years in Dubai prison over holiday romance with girl, 17, was recorded by police as being a 19-year-old Pakistani so he would be treated more harshly, campaigners claim

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rshly.html
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