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chetak wrote: 07 Nov 2024 14:24 Image
This chutiya RG does not realize that after independence monopolies were nurtured by the Kangress party and India has been at the receiving end of such entities. BTW the monopolies were those who assisted the BritShitRaj regime in drug and loot trade for centuries. Once the Britshits left, these monopolies came to the fore due to their accumulated wealth (which is really peanuts compared to what the BritShits took from India) which formed their capital base. Neverwho was the cheerleader, followed by IG, Rajiv G. It was PVNR who broke the stranglehold and let others flourish, IT biggies happened and others followed. Now the climate is free and fair for all and India has one of the highest number of start ups in the world. So, chutiya RG is smoking some powerful stuff and bending over to his Videshi handlers in Chatham house.
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KL Dubey wrote: 07 Nov 2024 19:36
chetak wrote: 07 Nov 2024 08:31
adani has changed nothing. He does not exercise editorial authority or control, directly or even indirectly because he simply cannot afford to be seen doing so. rundeeteevee is less than pocket change for him

Many of the scum are still there (rozi roti) because they will not be hired by any other channel and even sriniv@$@n j@in could onlee manage a "job" in a $hit house like al j@@zer@

It would be too politically damaging for adani to be seen as interfering and doctoring the news like many of the other owners openly do. Many presstitutes across the world are gunning for him and why would he risk it
NDTV is expected to run objective news. Adani does not need to "doctor" anything. I picked that particular news piece. The same has been reported by many others.

Additionally, perhaps you did not see this in my post:
https://www.eastmojo.com/mizoram/2024/0 ... -minister/

He thinks "greater mizoram" should be a project directed by bharat sarkar and is consistent with "akhand bharat".
Clearly, no "separatist" would go the PMO and ask Modi to support his separatism, and such people would never be entertained by Modi anywhere nearby.

Bottomline, I think you are not reading this correctly - the interpretation/narrative is not consistent with actual events and declared intentions of the people concerned. There is a lot more underneath the surface, beyond the obvious and cliched "US deep state interference". Labeling India loyalists as separatists is not a great idea. However, both our narratives deserve space and provide perspective to readers. Argumentation is not the primary purpose.

Dubey ji,

best not to talk of "loyalists as separatists".

we have seen far too many examples of such supposedly exotic and mythical beasts in cashmere and TN, not to mention the NE

having milked and bilked the GoI and their gullible public for all their worth, the "loyalist" in them soon evaporates, leaving behind the stinking residue of the separatist and who then try and paper over all their dark deeds by metastasizing into the avatar of freedom fighters.


after 1947, one should be very careful in supporting separatists, no matter in which shape, form and garb they cloak themselves.

BTW, wasn't yasin malik the convicted terrorist and full time separatist, a frequent visitor to the turbaned PMO, where he was not only feted and biriyanied but also much adulated by the lootyens lovedays, until Modi ji came along and the courts suddenly discovered this terrorist and separatist. Now he says he is a freedom fighter. lalduhoma and pals are unmistakably cut from the very same cloth.

And if you didn't know, yasin malik's wife is now a working in the paki parliament.
Yasin Malik’s wife’s appointment to Pakistan Cabinet is an indication of a sabotage plan in Kashmir: BJP leader

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 210895.ece



The less said about "reading it correctly" the better

Which govt, since 1947 has ever mentioned or even given the teeniest bit of credence to support or acknowledge this non existent "Akhand Bharat"

the tribals in mizoram and tripura must be smoking some really high quality stuff if they think that such ideas were actually taken to the PMO and justified under the subterfuge of "Akhand Bharat"
where he articulated Mizoram’s aspirations for a “Greater Mizoram Project” parallel to the national vision of Akhand Bharat or Greater India.
funny how the same media did not mention the approval, concurrence or even acceptance of the said proposal of the PM, assuming that there was one in the first place in accordance with the "the national vision of Akhand Bharat or Greater India"

what the boss tribals are so very slyly and cleverly doing is called setting the stage, shaping the narrative and running a toolkit that gives them the body armour of plausible deniability

bottom line: any media can write up any crap that they want or need to, per whishes of their BIF paymasters. Happens all the time and in every country in the world.

Heard of wapo, nyt, guardian, bbc, uscrif, or even the toI....... All of them exercise frequently their right to editorial freedom and use presstitute / writers liscence or journalistic liberty to damn India by making up fairy tales. Facts are never a requirement of the media but low trp ratings certainly are, because low or negative ratings can sink them by driving away advertisers and rendering such media useless as propaganda tools.

One can quote such media quislings and dirtbag media owners, but to credit them is something that one does at one's peril





and finally .....

evidently there are other people who also think that lalduhoma is a separatist

and now increasingly, reports are appearing in the ToI, India today, and the economic times, among other media outlets

or could they all be wrong, what do you think Dubey ji ...


‘No one can challenge India’s unity’: Manipur CM on Mizoram’s call for Zo nationhood

His comments were in response to recent remarks by Mizoram Chief Minister Lalduhoma during a visit to the United States, where he reportedly supported the unification of the Zo people, even if it meant “transcending national borders”

https://www.eastmojo.com/news/2024/11/0 ... ationhood/








https://www.northeasttoday.in/2024/11/0 ... -inaction/


Manipur: Congress Slams Mizoram CM’s Remarks As Threat To National Unity; Questions Government Inaction

The Manipur Pradesh Congress Committee (MPCC) has sharply criticized Mizoram Chief Minister Lalduhoma over his recent comments advocating for the unification of Kuki people across India, Myanmar, and Bangladesh.

Speaking at a press briefing at Congress Bhawan, Hareshwar Goshwami, Chief Spokesperson of the Manipur Pradesh Congress Committee (MPCC), condemned the remarks as divisive and a direct threat to India’s national unity and integrity.
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KL Dubey wrote: 07 Nov 2024 08:15 Gautam is the chairman.
Wow. Some here in this forum are on first name basis with Gautam Adani ji? :rotfl:
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ernest wrote: 07 Nov 2024 04:18 Excellently explained
Thanks ji.
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chetak wrote: 07 Nov 2024 22:53
Why write long posts when not needed. Neither is Modi/bharat sarkar a spring chicken, nor can Lalduhoma be compared with a mangy dog like Yasin Malik. Every individual needs to be seen in context, not by drawing overreaching comparisons. As of now, there is no reason for these sweeping claims/fretting and fuming.

We all know on BRF what an actual separatist is and the dangers of letting such people have any leeway. Various poltoos and tribal leaders in NE have over the decades issued truly incendiary and anti-national statements against India, but all these people have been been brought to the negotiating table, defanged, and/or are now part of the political mainstream including being in the NDA. What the Mizo CM said is nothing of that order.

He has some fantasies/desires. Like Pradyot in Tripura, he wants to be seen as a grand unifier of his tribe/people, but within the Indian framework. Modi and Shah had a cordial chat with him, and they agreed to consider Lalduhoma's request on leaving Mizo border section unfenced to allow free "refugee movement". Finally, Shah announced the entire border will be fenced with no exceptions and there will be no freedom of movement. That issue is sealed, now both MN and MZ are working along with Shah on a peace initiative.

Obviously, as I already stated in plain language, India has no such plans to redraw the borders to satisfy one or two people/tribe's desires and fall into a trap - although if push came to shove, it could be done easily with very little military resistance from BD and Myanmar. Bharat sarkar knows how to "draw the line" (pun intended), no need to incessantly second-guess.

MN and MZ CMs have been at loggerheads for a while over the refugee situation/tribal conflict. No surprise that the two of them are criticizing each other, while having to work together.

Let's wait for any new substantive developments before revisiting this.
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"We cannot fight three enemies at same time! We cannot fight India, Bangladesh & Myanmar at same time":- Mizoram CM Lalduhoma

So does this CHURCH PUPPET consider Bharat as the ENEMY?

.@AmitShah Ji, isn't it a case of TREASON & WAGING WAR AGAINST NATION?

I strongly feel that he must be immediately arrested to set a Precedent & President Rule be enforced in the State! NDA is not going to lose power if one MP withdraws support! These 2 months are crucial before Trump takes over as President to ger control over CIA.


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KL Dubey wrote: 08 Nov 2024 09:22
chetak wrote: 07 Nov 2024 22:53
Why write long posts when not needed. Neither is Modi/bharat sarkar a spring chicken, nor can Lalduhoma be compared with a mangy dog like Yasin Malik. Every individual needs to be seen in context, not by drawing overreaching comparisons. As of now, there is no reason for these sweeping claims/fretting and fuming.

We all know on BRF what an actual separatist is and the dangers of letting such people have any leeway. Various poltoos and tribal leaders in NE have over the decades issued truly incendiary and anti-national statements against India, but all these people have been been brought to the negotiating table, defanged, and/or are now part of the political mainstream including being in the NDA. What the Mizo CM said is nothing of that order.

He has some fantasies/desires. Like Pradyot in Tripura, he wants to be seen as a grand unifier of his tribe/people, but within the Indian framework. Modi and Shah had a cordial chat with him, and they agreed to consider Lalduhoma's request on leaving Mizo border section unfenced to allow free "refugee movement". Finally, Shah announced the entire border will be fenced with no exceptions and there will be no freedom of movement. That issue is sealed, now both MN and MZ are working along with Shah on a peace initiative.

Obviously, as I already stated in plain language, India has no such plans to redraw the borders to satisfy one or two people/tribe's desires and fall into a trap - although if push came to shove, it could be done easily with very little military resistance from BD and Myanmar. Bharat sarkar knows how to "draw the line" (pun intended), no need to incessantly second-guess.

MN and MZ CMs have been at loggerheads for a while over the refugee situation/tribal conflict. No surprise that the two of them are criticizing each other, while having to work together.

Let's wait for any new substantive developments before revisiting this.

Dubey ji,

nothing to wait or revisit while "awaiting substantive new developments"


If you look back at mizoram's history over the past 60 years, you'll find several instances where efforts to separate from India have been made.

Every mizo "leader" has discussed the unification movement and the dream of creating their own nation.

So, the recent developments involving @Lal_Duhoma shouldn't come as a surprise, especially not the fact that he deliberately and wilfully chose to open this can of worms in the US. The intent was clearly malicious and seditious

After India quelled the 1966 uprising (with aizawl being the only city in India to face airstrikes from the IAF courtesy IG), there has been a quiet, ongoing effort to seek separation from India and establish their own nation.

It seems they are simply waiting for the right moment to act. the amriki intention of creating a xtian state by incorporating sovereign territory carved out from three independent states is the trigger, no matter if an elected govt in beediland was to be sacrificed and the regime changed to do the dirty. laldhuhoma obviously feels that the right moment has arrived. He is not an ordinary citizen but holds a constitutional position and has taken the oath on the Indian constitution. He has no business opening his e**ing h0le, either in India or in the US

Is it just a happy coincidence that laldhuhoma has also mentioned three independent states that will need to be broken to fulfill his dream or is there something more sinister to it

there are many people in India who seem to get this right but some seem oblivious or even deliberately obtuse to what is glaring them in the face.

In the meanwhile hate mail is pouring in to try and intimidate those who are patriotic and also nationalistic in their stance and are speaking out on SM against this guys seditious shenanigans

the local congress party in one of the NE states has vehemently opposed this laldhuhoma venture

You obviously do not know how the ltte terrorist forces and the eelam war went down in the TN and how even today, those murderous BIF forces are active. It spread like a cancer from bombay downwards, covering the entire south

The GoI will not react openly because it will simply add fuel to the fire, just as the GoI does not openly react to the secessionist movements in some southern states. the "tribals" desperately want/need an open reaction from the GoI and these are attempts to provoke the Indian state. So the wise govt have left it to the aam jantha to kick this guy's butt which is what is being done

This can only be understood and appreciated by those who have an existential stake in Bharat. laldhuhoma, for one, very obviously has no such regard for Bharat or its territorial integrity or even its sacrosanct borders. And that does not give anyone the liberty to support the dravidian or tribal secessionist forces under the guise that the GoI has not reacted so what me worry, and one has the fundamental right to support any clown one choses, no matter what.

Otherwise, it merely becomes a momentary streetcorner discussion between ships that pass in the night, leaving not even a wisp of smoke in the darkness

let's assume for a moment that this project goes goes through. Can anyone imagine the raw carnage that will be unleashed on the streets after this second partition

The savage wounds from the first partition have yet to heal because almost all of those who voted for pukestan are still here, tolerated by the benign Hindus and are once again asking for their "share"

what exactly are you defending, Dubey ji
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@PrinceArihan
Acting on specific intelligence of movement of explosives on road Serchhip-Thenzawl in Mizoram, AssamRifles units under SpearCorps & Mizoram Police established a Mobile Vehicle Check Post on 06 Nov 24.
The troops intercepted a vehicle, thoroughly searched it and apprehended two individuals in possession of 9,600 Gelatin sticks, 9,400 Detonators and over 1,800 meters of Cordtex. This needs to be investigated more.

The seizure comes against the backdrop of AR, which guards the Indo-Myanmar border, increasing surveillance along the border following inputs that personnel of Myanmar’s People’s Defence Force (PDF) were trying to ferry explosives and other illegal items across the porous border.

This is the second instance of the border guarding force seizing a large quantity of explosives headed to Myanmar. On October 12, Assam Rifles seized 39,000 detonators from a hideout near the Tiau River along the border. In May, a cadre of the Chin Resistance Force (CRF) was also caught trying to smuggle bullets, radio sets and tactical gear into Myanmar via Mizoram.
https://x.com/PrinceArihan/status/1854497315442098366
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The Trump Effect is in full swing! NYC finally shutting down those free meal vouchers for illegal immigrants—about time!

No more endless handouts while hardworking Americans foot the bill. Soros and his open borders crew must be sweating now!

And Trump promising to kick out every supporter of hate and extremism?

Exactly the kind of leadership this country needs!

Let’s take back America and put our people first!



We cheer such inspiring stories from abroad.

But when will our country stop feeding 8-10 crore, job stealing, freeloading, illegal beedis, pakis, afghans, maldivians, lankans and rohingyas using tax payers' money ?
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kirket between India and the pakis is never sport, it is, and has always been always political and the pakis, without fail, have been buggered every single time


India not to travel to Pakistan for Champions Trophy, wants its matches in Dubai

There was talk of India possibly travelling to Pakistan after a recent meeting between External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar and Pakistan's Deputy Prime Minister Muhammad Ishaq Dar on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation meeting at Islamabad.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sport ... i-9659831/
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chetak wrote: 08 Nov 2024 10:54
The GoI will not react openly because it will simply add fuel to the fire, just as the GoI does not openly react to the secessionist movements in some southern states. the "tribals" desperately want/need an open reaction from the GoI and these are attempts to provoke the Indian state. So the wise govt have left it to the aam jantha to kick this guy's butt which is what is being done
I will add that the people in general population who care about these issues and are affected, have a duty to raise questions. The govt will not have much incentive to act, if they think people don't care much about any issue. If we do not discuss this in public forums, we are relinquishing our duty. It will not be wise to leave it to the bureaucracy to drive govt reaction to issues of such high national importance. We all know the risks of trusting the permanent executive too much.

edit:typos
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chetak wrote: 08 Nov 2024 10:54 what exactly are you defending, Dubey ji
Careful there....I am not defending anything or anybody, nor do I need to "get anyone on my side" or argue about sh!t. I am just calling out the pattern of "manufactured outrage" resulting from lack of context (I have pointed this out before), which creates an artificial paranoia.

For the fourth time, I am saying the NE is more restive compared to most other parts in Bharat. The reasons are well understood. The borders with BD and Myanmar are both porous and not properly secured.

However, the Bharat sarkar apparatus is working purposefully in this situation to secure the Myanmar border, and to sort out the internal differences between the states/tribes/ethnic groups.

I didn't see any depth or context in your posts. Simply stringing together well-known NE issues with a couple of wishful thinking speeches to create a false/misleading impression.

In the Indian framework there is legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc, but the central government makes the decisions and there is a limit to autonomy/free choice. If Lalduhoma turns rogue, Bharat sarkar will know (and act) long before people on BRF start reacting to 2-3 months old speeches and consider it a distinction.
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Rahul Gandhi peddling a blank book with a red cover as the constitution of India, his master piece of literary work:

'Maino Camp'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7P5PMXKyM



As expected from a Balak Buddhi that is blank, the book's pages are also blank!
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KL Dubey wrote: 09 Nov 2024 01:26
chetak wrote: 08 Nov 2024 10:54 what exactly are you defending, Dubey ji
Careful there....I am not defending anything or anybody, nor do I need to "get anyone on my side" or argue about sh!t. I am just calling out the pattern of "manufactured outrage" resulting from lack of context (I have pointed this out before), which creates an artificial paranoia.

For the fourth time, I am saying the NE is more restive compared to most other parts in Bharat. The reasons are well understood. The borders with BD and Myanmar are both porous and not properly secured.

However, the Bharat sarkar apparatus is working purposefully in this situation to secure the Myanmar border, and to sort out the internal differences between the states/tribes/ethnic groups.

I didn't see any depth or context in your posts. Simply stringing together well-known NE issues with a couple of wishful thinking speeches to create a false/misleading impression.

In the Indian framework there is legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc, but the central government makes the decisions and there is a limit to autonomy/free choice. If Lalduhoma turns rogue, Bharat sarkar will know (and act) long before people on BRF start reacting to 2-3 months old speeches and consider it a distinction.

Dubey ji,


ask yourself why did this news make it to SM and one paper (at first) only after the initial blackout of, as you call it "2-3 months old speeches "

and now, after the initial reportage, why has it gained this much amount of traction

sedition wasn't removed from the constitution, it was replaced by treason, (for a very good reason) the new laws made are much more broad based, with a wider applicability and "legitimate space for ethnic groups to voice concerns" is permitted ONLY under the umbrella of the Indian constitution, and not in some "Akhand Bharat" This hasn't changed since the Indian constitution was first made

The Indian constitution does not include the right to secede, and the constitution does not include the words or phrase "Akhand Bharat", but snake oil salesman laldhuhoma has subtly spun his abrahamic web and slyly pitched it under "Akhand Bharat" to divert attention by misleading statements and also to not attract penalties under the treason provisions

That is why the DS is hammering into India, via the various orifices of the dimwit, the dangerous idea that India is a "federation of states" and just as each state voluntarily "federated" into India, it can also "un" "federate" out of India, at will.

This is the shifting of the overton window which they hope will lead to a constitutional amendment some time in the future so that one can "un" "federate" with benefits, meaning with a legal share in the family property like during the 1947 partition

India, as a whole is allergic to the words partition, separatist, terrorist, calls for "nationhood" and cries for "secession" etc

So, there is no "legitimate space for ethnic groups to voice concerns" UNLESS these (legitimate) concerns fully fall under the umbrella of the Indian constitution and laldhuhoma's fulminations (claiming territory from three countries) are certainly not covered by the conditionality of "under the umbrella of the Indian constitution".

What are some elements in cashmere doing, or did in panjab, is it under the umbrella of the Indian constitution, and what has been the response from the GoI to such "voicing of (legitimate) concerns".

The disturbances in the manipur area, why did they start when they did, and why was it relentlessly kept alive by the BIF fed papers and presstitute journos and more importantly, why did the GoI keep such a low profile, and not interfere too much in manipur

the regime change in beediland

laldhuma opening his orifices, both in India and the US, (of course he was only "voicing concerns" while openly seeking secession)

the three are connected because they are coordinated with the regime change at the center.

It is like an athlete peaking to maximize traction for an event, and not, as is being projected in some quarters, a flatulent and harmless 75 year old man, just passing gas
I didn't see any depth or context in your posts. Simply stringing together well-known NE issues with a couple of wishful thinking speeches to create a false/misleading impression


right back at you Dubey ji, but not many can match the eruditeness that is always so very evident in a majority of your postings. how do you do it so consistently, must be really exhausting

and always remember, my friend, that every word, phrase or sentence including any combination thereof ever spoken by you or I, and will be spoken by either of us, going forward has already been spoken or written somewhere, by countless millions who have "been there and done that"

so less of such woke throw aways.

the mizos have always been antsy with words like "nationhood" and such treasonous crap is neither to be encouraged or sympathised with, no matter whose classmate is involved

It is here that we differ

I saw, at first hand, what real damage was done to camaraderie in tight knit micro societies by the few khalistanis in the crowd and how some of those rifts continue to divide even today

and "legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" is always constrained and tightly limited under the legal confines of the constitution. No exceptions whatsoever. No one has any rights out side of what is covered under the constitution

you are aware that laldhuhoma's BIF backed demands pose an existential threat and will open the flood gates to more such illegal demands from other disgruntled players propped up by the same BIF, thus giving richer and bigger enemies the chance to meddle in India's internal affairs on "humanitarian" grounds

This strategy was already tried out during the eelam war when BIF groups gained a foothold in TN and operate even today through the padres and the woke commies, by influencing politics and making state govt policies to aid their cause while actively using the state machinery and the judiciary in subverting and supressing the aspirations of the majority and grabbing temple resources, all in the name of sickularism

but you already knew all this, so it's back to my unanswered question: what exactly are you defending .....

is it laldhuhoma's illegitimate and preposterous (claiming territory from three countries) demands and his fundamental right to "legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" even if it is against the constitution of India (while many of the mizo terrorists in the state are actively engaged in human, narcotics and arms trafficking, thus violating internal security laws and transgressing national borders across multiple countries)

or is it the authoritative majesty and the absolute supremacy of the laws enshrined under the Indian constitution where all Indian citizens are deemed to be equal under the law
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chetak wrote: 09 Nov 2024 02:59 long post deleted
Like I said once before, if the situation is so dire, you're fawked then.:)

Let the professionals deal with things. I posted all the details about how they are doing that in a positive way to reach workable solutions. For the benefit of readers, this provides balance to dire/manufactured outrage perspectives. The outrage may be justified/understandable, but not productive now. So, I am not arguing with you at all.
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chetak wrote: 09 Nov 2024 02:59 right back at you Dubey ji, but not many can match the eruditeness that is always so very evident in a majority of your postings. how do you do it so consistently, must be really exhausting
Let's not get too personal...your BRF profile shows you make about 6 posts per day on average, with a total of about 34000 posts. Nearly 2% of all BRF posts are coming from your handle. Now THAT would be really exhausting. Plus all the bolding and red texting probably ramps up the BP further.

As for me, its about 0.7 posts per day - which I think is still too high. IOW, instead of telling you to "get a life", I just make sure I get mine.
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KL Dubey wrote: 09 Nov 2024 23:09
chetak wrote: 09 Nov 2024 02:59 right back at you Dubey ji, but not many can match the eruditeness that is always so very evident in a majority of your postings. how do you do it so consistently, must be really exhausting
Let's not get too personal...your BRF profile shows you make about 6 posts per day on average, with a total of about 34000 posts. Nearly 2% of all BRF posts are coming from your handle. Now THAT would be really exhausting. Plus all the bolding and red texting probably ramps up the BP further.

As for me, its about 0.7 posts per day - which I think is still too high. IOW, instead of telling you to "get a life", I just make sure I get mine.

awwwww, Dubey ji


you were the one who opened that door, but no more from moi.

Like most folks here, a majority of the posters are working

just like your posts on this thread, despite facts being present or made available by many posters, the conclusions drawn are all your own.

The short point is no separatists are to be tolerated, period

their rights be damned, and all classmates are included and in 2024, as in post partition 1947, nationhood means India period, and that carefully schemed and deliberately planned division of Bharat by the BIF, spawned two jihadi monsters, one each to the east and the west. That very same BIF vermin are raising their ugly heads once again, and this time in the NE. Once is more than enough

"legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" is not only unadulterated BS but also treasonous to boot

That said, you can get back to your .... what ever it is that you do

I'm done with this let's accommodate this weirdo laldhuhoma bit
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Constitutional Garauntees of Linguistic and Religioius Minorities.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... csqp7l-uvO
Internal security act 1971
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 2FNational Security Act 1980https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct= ... Yxnx2p8rXj
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chetak wrote: 10 Nov 2024 06:37 "legitimate space for ethnic/religious/other groups to voice concerns on internal security/borders etc" is not only unadulterated BS but also treasonous to boot
It seems the only way you can find to extend this discussion is to increase the level of inflammatory comments. Try something better for a change.

Again, there is legitimate space for people (including elected officials) to offer their thoughts and opinions. It has to be seen on a case by case basis. No need to yell at everything.

I posted details of how the GoI is working this out. Nobody of consequence is interested in finding treason/separatism in the speeches, which are uploaded on the GoI website to boot. :lol: I trust this GoI and the work being done, and I don't trust your reliability in these matters at all. Before Modi sarkar, I would not have trusted the GoI either, which made a mess of the NE.

Yelling at the Mizo tribals and their perspective is not going to work. The future of our NE states isn't possible to understand or reshape by just sitting on the internet. Don't turn this corner of the internet into an echo chamber based on a twisted/incomplete "internet reality".
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And the new slogan .... 8)



That one slogan bataoge to katoge already sent them out of majority, blasted their narrative of jati jangadna so badly and now they face another ....




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Halal meat won’t be forced upon non-Muslims on Air India flights – How this decision is a step in the right direction



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQzYMxOCGus


Air India Stops Serving Halal Food to Hindu and Sikh Passengers


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Seems like BJP is gonna lose Maharashtra

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 234315.cms

Adani, Sharad Pawar, Shah and Praful were at BJP-NCP talks 5 years ago: Ajit

https://ibb.co/qNpSpjZ

https://www.gujaratsamachar.com/news/na ... -elections
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Menwhile: Dominica announces that it will honor Indian PM Modi with its highest national honour at the upcoming India Caricom Summit; he is being honoured, in 'recognition of his contributions during the COVID pandemic & strengthening ties'.

(India sent COVID vaccines to Dominica)
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I sometimes wonder at the woke leftist rant against Ex-CJI.
If is he or was that bad why nt riase an issue before he was sworn in
Or even going further backward why did he ever get selected for the Judgeship left alone High Court and SC.
They feel he is bad because he did not brow beat NaMo or his judgement were flawed (by high percentage) or because there is an inherent short comings.
If its the latter then who is at fault Government or the rotten Collegium!!
Should they then not be raising concerns on the Families of SC judges!! and get rid of the Collegium
In effect they want the rotten 'wink-wink smile-smile' to carry on but on their terms of judgements
so that the cotries of Constitutional lawyers carryon getting rich (like the likes of Sibal, or the 1 Re fine giver)
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SRajesh wrote: 15 Nov 2024 18:06 I sometimes wonder at the woke leftist rant against Ex-CJI.
If is he or was that bad why nt riase an issue before he was sworn in
Or even going further backward why did he ever get selected for the Judgeship left alone High Court and SC.
They feel he is bad because he did not brow beat NaMo or his judgement were flawed (by high percentage) or because there is an inherent short comings.
If its the latter then who is at fault Government or the rotten Collegium!!
Should they then not be raising concerns on the Families of SC judges!! and get rid of the Collegium
In effect they want the rotten 'wink-wink smile-smile' to carry on but on their terms of judgements
so that the cotries of Constitutional lawyers carryon getting rich (like the likes of Sibal, or the 1 Re fine giver)



SRajesh ji,


This is basically an attempt to intimidate and set the agenda for the new cji

This is done for all new cji's and it is a woke naxal and commie sop

the sc bar council actually think that they are the power behind the throne but many of them were ripped new ones by the outgoing and that surely rankled.

That the old cji wasn't too intimidated was the reason for their ire because they thought that they would curb Modiji's political enthusiasm using the moon powder.

high profile shylocks desperately covet a seat in the RS as it increases their brand value leading to heavier billings and a posh bungalow with a lootyens dilli address, for that much preferred and polished profile, with guaranteed invites to all phoren embassies, and free five star wining and dining समस्त परिवार सहित
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What is happening with Ajit Pawar??
First no to Yogiji's clarion call
Then floating the bogey of Adani as the facilitator (now backed by Unkil Pawar aka Wily old fox).
I get a strange feeling he is going to do a fast one on or just before the election day!!
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Is there a ground swell against Mahayuti??
And Ajit is making plans to move back into Uncle's house??
Some Opinion Polls (nowadays you just cant trust any of these shady pollsters!) suggested Mahayuti win
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I think AS and Modi made big mistake involving Pawar dogs. This scum did the same thing in LS too.
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Karnataka: Lokayukta gives a clean chit to the previous BJP govt, busts Congress’ ‘40% commission sarkar’ smear campaign




Lokayukta report has given clean chit to previous BJP government on 40% commission charges: Party leaders

Nov 18, 2024

During 2023 polls, the Congress had used the Karnataka State Contractors' Association's accusation of 40% commission as a key weapon to target the BJP.

The BJP in Karnataka has now asserted that a Lokayukta probe has cleared its previous government of the 40 per cent commission allegations made by the Congress, labeling the accusations as entirely "false".

BJP leaders claimed that the probe results prove the allegations were part of a Congress "toolkit" strategy, PTI reported.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/b ... 63316.html
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I remember reading in social media that this '40 percent' allegations affected BJP voteshare. Do secular Hindus only concerned about BJP doing corruption? Why the principle of selecting lesser evil is not applied here ?
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As someone who is fighting against BJP and Congress politicans over bad roads in our area, everyone is corrupt to the core. The amounts that move up layers all the way to the top for the election "fund" is jaw dropping. Modi's turning a blind eye to the street level corruption by his state units is apalling. The only reason he continues is the lack of an alternative.
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Prime Minister Modi received by three heads of states at Guyana - President of Guyana, Prime Minister of Grenada and Prime Minister of Barbados at the Hotel along with 4 Ministers from Guyana. PM Modi first Indian PM to visit Guyana in over 56 years!

In an unprecedented gesture, he was received at the airport by President Irfan Ali and over a dozen cabinet ministers..
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Guyana is mostly Indians, with discovery of oil/gas fields, negligible army and disputed boundaries.
At some point, we may need to have our armed forces in Guyana, to protect them from hostile neighbor - Venezuela.
Venezuela claims more than 50% of Guyana. map
We can co-opt American companies and have joint stakes in the fields. output can be imported 100% to India, adding a piece to our energy security.
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Finally, CONgress' mask is OFF!

Deleting the tweet doesn't hide intentions!

Chidambaram proposes to divide #Manipur into 3 parts & give regional AUTONOMY for Meitei, Naga & Kuki.

Division is DNA of CONgress. While whole Manipur is fighting for integrity, CONgress is hell bent on dividing State TO BENEFIT KUKIS!

Note- Nagas were already given Nagaland. Now, Nagas who reside in Manipur are those who don't want any further division. Meiteis are the original residents of Manipur.

Bache Kaun?...the Kukis....majority of whom are ORIGINALLY not from Manipur & are considered Immigrants. So, Does CONgress want to create Autonomous Region for Infiltrators? Is CONgress part of Alleged Plan of creating a Separate Christian "Nation" craved out of Manipur, Mizoram & Myanmar? Isn't 1947 Partition enough for CONgress?

These doubts/questions become important as Chidambaram's suggestion hints at big Anti-Bharat conspiracy! On top of it, don't forget that it was then HM Chidambaram who had signed pact to suspend operations against Myanmar based militants and allowed them to enter Bharat.

Now you know WHY!


BTW, why are all the commies, wokes and naxals so very keen that Modi ji visits manipur.

Surely all of them are very aware of the fact that the entire region is infested by kuki snipers with their long guns





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The letter itself shows kukis are not in support of Indians, they want ST status for them given in 2003, n want to delete ST status chin,mizo etc given in 1950's, they don't want to be included in NRC, they want autonomy n congress supported it, shame on congress
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Who lit the #Manipur fire?

Dear ⁦@RahulGandhi⁩, educate yourself on the genesis of Manipur’s crisis. ⁦

@kharge⁩ had to order ⁦@PChidambaram_IN⁩ to delete his irresponsible post after former Congress CM of Manipur Okram Ibobi Singh schooled him on the root cause.



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chetak wrote: 20 Nov 2024 18:38
BTW, why are all the commies, wokes and naxals so very keen that Modi ji visits manipur.

Surely all of them are very aware of the fact that the entire region is infested by kuki snipers with their long guns
The real question Chetak Ji is that why are these commies still not in Jail. If we don't deal with these enemies with a Iron hand they then make political hay with whatever ever little issues we face. However, I do acknowledge, we should have quelled this Manipur thing with a Iron hand long before.
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