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Pathik wrote: ↑07 May 2025 04:45
Rakesh Garu. True. but thats the whole point of our new offensive defense rhetoric. Why wait for Pak retaliation? Pahalgham was a reason big enough to strike the terror roots. merely shaking tree and expecting leaves to fall is our age old game, Hope there are more ops to come in the next few days. I wish Modi had made a statement: Pahalgham will be the last terror attack on our soil. But it takes a lot of conviction and nation wide support to do that.
The goal is to ensure that Pakistan retaliates. And that opens the door for India to hit Pak military installations.
Pakistan is being forced to climb the escalatory ladder. Their H&D is at stake. If they do not retaliate, their own people will turn on them.
Let them take the next step.
West may not allow escalatory response with "restraint" calls. it is for corrupt mullah TSP Generals to decide now!!
Hind Sena is waiting to serve them even better hotter faster!!
Folks, do not engage sohamn, he is under watch for now.
Kakkaji, you are senior poster, desist from same track. IAF pilots are not known to park their craft in POK after an operation and walk back to Indian side. So don’t speculate like that and certainly don’t engage with my post too. Move on.
We are not going to tolerate hand-wringing in this forum over paki’s absurd claims
The Pakistani Army of the Punjabi Mussalman holds power over the rest of the ethnicities like Sindhis, Baloch, Pathans etc in Pakistan by telling the awaam that they keep Pakis safe from the evil Hindoos. So they will HAVE to retaliate because these strikes are so public. If they don't, the great Pathan, Taliban Khan will be handed a strong victory against the Punjabi Mussalman.
hnair wrote: ↑07 May 2025 07:13
Folks, do not engage sohamn, he is under watch for now.
Kakkaji, you are senior poster, desist from same track. IAF pilots are not known to park their craft in POK after an operation and walk back to Indian side. So don’t speculate like that and certainly don’t engage with my post too. Move on.
We are not going to tolerate hand-wringing in this forum over paki’s absurd claims
Rakesh wrote: ↑07 May 2025 06:23
Pakistan HAS to retaliate. There is visible damage for the whole world to see. If Pak does not retaliate, Munir and his ilk will get lynched.
Possibly. They'll probably retire in London and stay out of Pakistan politics. If things go nicely, the first 3 scenarios are likely, #2 being most likely:
1. Tsp doesn't retaliate. Munir & co either retire or are retired forever. Civilian govt comes favoring India.
2. Tsp doesn't retaliate, Munir is replaced by another joker. India continues to squeeze on all fronts. Tsp breaks up.
3. Tsp does retaliate and tspa digs in it's heels like a real a Kool aid drunk Islamist force (possible considering Munirs pedigree).
The last option is the least favorable.
Don't forget there is a 4th option:
TSPA spins the story as a 'WIN'. India got scared of the Pak Fauj and did not dare to hit Fauji targets and instead chose innocent civilian targets. They were ready to use atim bum, but misfortunately were dissuaded at the last minute by the civilian govt that came under the pressure of Amrika and surrendered. Munir will mutter some hadith and the masses will go 'Mashallah, Subhanallah, Inshallah, AoA' and Shahbaz gets a time out, probably in London or Saudi.
Paki fauj continues to fight loot another day. New jihadis are replenished. Munir gets to settle down with his loot in foreign lands. New jernail tries to be the new ghazi. Rinse and repeat.
hnair wrote: ↑07 May 2025 07:13
Folks, do not engage sohamn, he is under watch for now.
Kakkaji, you are senior poster, desist from same track. IAF pilots are not known to park their craft in POK after an operation and walk back to Indian side. So don’t speculate like that and certainly don’t engage with my post too. Move on.
We are not going to tolerate hand-wringing in this forum over paki’s absurd claims
On what claim? I was responding to another poster who claimed that Abhijit Iyer was claiming that an IAF fighter was shot. Why don’t you put that poster under watch too?
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Love how the entire world will now have to ask pukistan to "show restraint" instead of saying this to Bharat. And no more calls for evidence by the Bharat based half front.
Lets enjoy the salvar shivering from across the border.
Per tsp 100 if planes shot down. 50% Indian male claims 50 plane shot down. Br dhoti shivering depends on the brand of the dhoti they are wearing dictating the frequency of dhoti shiver, varies from 1 to 5.
The outlier is UK, who has been a major supporter of khakis and spreading their narrative during Indian operations recently in the west. The FTA that got announced by PM Starmer should be at stake, if they continue to platform ISPR in international media. Whitehall provides cues for how other Anglo countries like Canada and Australia behave.
Folks in UK please do keep an eye on local news and post in UK thread. Particularly any names of “community organizers” who crawl out. They are going to be tomorrow’s mayors and need public tracking down.
Cain Marko wrote: ↑07 May 2025 06:58
Possibly. They'll probably retire in London and stay out of Pakistan politics. If things go nicely, the first 3 scenarios are likely, #2 being most likely:
1. Tsp doesn't retaliate. Munir & co either retire or are retired forever. Civilian govt comes favoring India.
2. Tsp doesn't retaliate, Munir is replaced by another joker. India continues to squeeze on all fronts. Tsp breaks up.
3. Tsp does retaliate and tspa digs in it's heels like a real a Kool aid drunk Islamist force (possible considering Munirs pedigree).
The last option is the least favorable.
Don't forget there is a 4th option:
TSPA spins the story as a 'WIN'. India got scared of the Pak Fauj and did not dare to hit Fauji targets and instead chose innocent civilian targets. They were ready to use atim bum, but misfortunately were dissuaded at the last minute by the civilian govt that came under the pressure of Amrika and surrendered. Munir will mutter some hadith and the masses will go 'Mashallah, Subhanallah, Inshallah, AoA' and Shahbaz gets a time out, probably in London or Saudi.
Paki fauj continues to fight loot another day. New jihadis are replenished. Munir gets to settle down with his loot in foreign lands. New jernail tries to be the new ghazi. Rinse and repeat.
Yes, that's option 2. Status quo continues but this would also mean that iwt, Indian support to fissures in tsp and other measures will continue from India. Occasional terror attack and resulting disproportionate kinetic action from India will also continue. But tsp can't sustain this strangling and choking. Net result . I'm time, Partition(s).
There is no evidence whatsoever of any IAF planes having been downed.
That said, we need a very different mentality than some have displayed here if we're going to confront what is coming.
Planes are lost in war. So is hardware. So are brave people in the service of their country. Any of this might already be true, or might become true for our side at any time. It's just a fact. Casualties are inevitable. But taking casualties doesn't mean defeat, not by any means.
It's losing our nerve at the news (or rumours) of our own casualties that leads to defeat. If we're going to see this through, every bit of dhoti shivering we indulge in over reports of casualties, every act of second-guessing our government or armed forces, is an outright gift to the enemy. ESPECIALLY if done on an internet forum or social media platform.
vimal wrote: ↑07 May 2025 07:38
I can still see this as a win for Pakistan fauj. They can surrender 100,000 this time and break away Sindh and beat the record of 1971z
ADMIN NOTE: Last and final warning issued
Not sure what the warning is for? I was making fun of the TSP army’s record for surrendering en-mass .
There are some interesting (anti Indian) posters here. I hope India responds to each and every Pakistani action. If folks could aggregate news, that would be great. Jail Hind.
Also, the purpose of jihad is to create fear, not actual victory. It is the fear that leads to defeat. We lost 7000 soldiers in 1971 and won the war. Please don't take to fear, fear is natural, but please don't spread it. This does not amount to false news, IAF/IA etc will eventually announce its loses. I will not take real gandu or black butt breaking news also as fact, just GOI.
BTW we have established the protocol across the world that we will target terrorist across the border when there is a terrorist attack. It is completely Pakis choice now. If they escalate they will be pummeled into nothing right now. They also can wait and starve to death slowly. No water and no economy
nishant.gupta wrote: ↑07 May 2025 07:32
Love how the entire world will now have to ask pukistan to "show restraint" instead of saying this to Bharat. And no more calls for evidence by the Bharat based half front.
Lets enjoy the salvar shivering from across the border.
Jai Hind
Opposition parties are shameless bunch. They won't respond rightaway and are calibrating their response. They will, for sure, go to new "lows" in public discourse. Give them a few days.
Rudradev wrote: ↑07 May 2025 07:46
There is no evidence whatsoever of any IAF planes having been downed.
That said, we need a very different mentality than some have displayed here if we're going to confront what is coming.
Planes are lost in war. So is hardware. So are brave people in the service of their country. Any of this might already be true, or might become true for our side at any time. It's just a fact. Casualties are inevitable. But taking casualties doesn't mean defeat, not by any means.
It's losing our nerve at the news (or rumours) of our own casualties that leads to defeat. If we're going to see this through, every bit of dhoti shivering we indulge in over reports of casualties, every act of second-guessing our government or armed forces, is an outright gift to the enemy. ESPECIALLY if done on an internet forum or social media platform.
Remember that.
Well said Rudradev sir.
I would like to also request everyone to not just see some random tweets and panic. This is not like 71 or even 99 but this is an age where all narratives are vying for the same space and social media algos will start showing you more of what you are engaging with. So if you start reacting to false narratives, more of the same will be thrown at you. I would suggest not to react / repost anything which is not from any of the Indian official channels.
Don't worry, the opposition parties will come out asking how come we don't see the bodies of the terrorist chiefs? All we see are windowless buildings.
and you decide the narrative, so make a choice and promote pro indian narrative (irrespective of right or wrong). You may promote a anti indian narrative thinking logically that it is true, but wat if it was wrong? Unknowingly you have promoted cause against mother India, being a armchair enthusiast, least is expected that you will be acting in favor of Mother India.
Also, for people who are complaining this isn't enough, please stop. At this point, it looks like we handed the ball to Pakis and it's up to them to show their cards. We need to learn to crawl, walk, before we can run with these wild scenarios.