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No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Of course, the Qatari jet was accepted without Consent of the Congress. But then Trump is not holding an Office of Trust
But back to the topic - I don't think India needs a new aristocracy - even if it is an aristocracy of high achievement. A high achiever can be an OCI or become an Indian citizen. No special dual citizenship rights are proper or necessary.
^^ the Qatari jet was NOT accepted by DJT personally, it was sent to DoD and they took the Jet on behalf of the US. This not subject to the Constitution clause. Such FUD is created by the Dumbocrats who create needless crisis.
Let’s PLEASE keep this thread focused on the core issue!
Some of the comments about Trump, Democrats('Dumbocrats really ??? ) , Qatari jets, or voting rights debates unrelated to this case are taking the discussion FAR off-topic.
If you'd like to debate those subjects, kindly take them to another thread. Let's avoid trolling or derailing a thoughtful conversation. Thanks!
- The issue raised in the article isn’t about creating an “aristocracy” but about the rigidity of rules—Geim himself said he would've declined the knighthood if he'd known. It’s not about entitlement, but how systems sometimes punish people unnecessarily, even when they’ve brought honor to a country.
- The comparison here is less about privilege and more about how nations treat their most distinguished citizens—like how Pakistan stripped Nobel laureate Abdus Salam of recognition and citizenship. It's a cautionary tale.
- And as for India, a lot has changed in recent years. Earlier, those who took foreign citizenship were seen with suspicion. But now, people like Field Medalist Manjul Bhargava are welcomed, honored, and invited back to contribute. That shift in mindset is something to build on—not dismiss.
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In short: Earlier, India’s attitude to those who “left” was often tinged with skepticism. Today, the government sees them as ambassadors of India’s talent and soft power. The contrast is striking—especially when compared to the past, or to countries like the Netherlands or Pakistan that have penalized scientists like Geim or Salam.
Amber G. wrote: ↑07 Jul 2025 23:09Friendly Request:
Let’s PLEASE keep this thread focused on the core issue!
Friendly Request:
Maybe you will explain on a suitable thread why the dual citizenship issue, which you brought up, has anything to do with physics. Or even your post just above.
really ??? ) , Qatari jets, or voting rights debates unrelated to this case are taking the discussion FAR off-topic.