Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses

[chetak]

^^
Could I ask some of the experts on China Policy here : What is the Catch??
Have we made major concession on :
a. One China Policy n Ditched Taiwan
b. Cool off on Tibet
c. Easing up on supply chain establisment and Semi-Conductor
There was an article in Deccan Herald to the extent claiming that India has reiterated One-China Policy.
What Quid Pro quo for this Dragon-Elephant Tango!! then please??

SRajesh ji,

DH is a congi rag, and its reporters are presstitutes and dirtbags

like other congi and commie rags and dirtbags, the cheeni's paid for POV being peddled matters more to these scum than India's truth

[chetak]

Are there any good books or articles on that whole affair where we tried to give away Siachen?

Tanaji saar,

There are some books referring to this matter (sanjay baru's accidental PM, for instance) but look for books that mention Operation Meghdoot

https://www.amazon.in/How-India-Sees-Wo ... 9386228858



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AqRNko0DY


Former Army Chief General J J Singh Speaks On The Siachen Surrender | CNN News18

[VinodTK]

Check Out China’s Short-Range Air Defense Vehicle Capable Of Packing A Whopping 96 Mini Interceptors

A short-range air defense (SHORAD) vehicle that can be loaded with up to 96 small interceptors at a time has been spotted amid ongoing preparations for a huge Chinese military parade in the country’s capital, Beijing, next week. Referred to as the FK-3000, the self-contained system was developed with a particular eye toward offering mobile point defense against waves of incoming drones.

The FK-3000 was developed by the state-run China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) and first emerged publicly at the Zhuhai Air Show in 2022. The extent to which the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) may have now fielded it, and whether it has been assigned a new designation in the process, is unknown.
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[uddu]

^^^12+12 Total 24 can be seen. Where is this 96 coming from?

[Manish_P]

Their hypothesis, based on the faint cross pattern on the cover, is that each canister might be divided into 4. Housing micro interceptors (for short range anti-drone operations).

Possible, yes. Probable, perhaps. Saleable, unlikely - unless you have a bakra like bakistan.

[bala]

Col Ajay Raina has the "Real Story" of Galwan.

Real Story of Galwan, Indian Army vs Chinese PLA, The Snow Leopard - Col Ajay Raina, Aadi Achint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ2sNf0byNg

[A_Gupta]

The CCP's assessment is that the US H1-B visa fee is a self-goal.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202509/1344070.shtml

"Even if the US government gains fiscally and creates more job opportunities for some Americans—assuming those goals are partly achieved—the damage to American businesses would far outweigh any benefits," Lü said.

The real loss will be for US tech companies—both giants and startups—which rely heavily on foreign talent, especially in their early stages when they can't afford higher-cost domestic hires, the expert said.

[Vayutuvan]

The CCP's assessment is that the US H1-B visa fee is a self-goal.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202509/1344070.shtml

which rely heavily on foreign talent, especially in their early stages when they can't afford higher-cost domestic hires, the expert said.

Hain? They are saying that foreign H1B workers cost less, i.e. they get paid less than the prevailing wages.

[A_Gupta]

Time is short, say the South Koreans.
Time is short for India too.
(on the Korea thread).
viewtopic.php?p=2661236#p2661236

[SSridhar]

Wei Hai Wei, China, and the Japanese Navy, 1895 - Chennai Centre for China Studies, C3S

Abstract

The 19th Century was particularly cataclysmic for China due both to internal and external circumstances. Great rebellions, like the ‘Taiping’, and even greater assaults by western ‘barbarian’ powers made it very difficult for the Qing dynasty, in total contrast to the military successes of the previous century. But, the greatest debacle was yet to happen in 1894-1895 when the Japanese military defeated China comprehensively both in land and on the sea. As a result, China ceded large parts of Manchuria and Shandong, conceded Taiwan, and lost control of Korea – all to Japan. It was the final sea battle at Wei Hai Wei that decisively sealed the fate of Qing China and set off a chain of events that continues to echo even today. Here we analyze the event, the consequences, and see what lessons are to be learnt.

[A_Gupta]

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345415.shtml
CCP response to renewed trade war, in case anyone wants to read it.

[Tanaji]

The link takes a while to load but worth the read:

https://web.archive.org/web/20251012144 ... terrified/

The Chinese are to be commended for their single minded bloody pursuit of their objectives.

[Lisa]

There are many in this forum that have issues with Chinese ownership of critical assets overseas, in that they beleive that China then controls them. I personally, remain unhappy with Chinese ownership but firmly beleive that any stategic asset is liable to seizure by the host country, if it feels threatened, ie,

https://www.ft.com/content/605e5456-943 ... c5c82810f2

Dutch government takes control of Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia

Move escalates frictions between western countries and Beijing over access to high-end technology

"The Dutch government has taken control of Chinese-owned semiconductor maker Nexperia, warning of risks to Europe’s economic security after alleging “serious governance shortcomings” at the company.

"In a statement on Sunday the Dutch Ministry of Economic Affairs said it acted because of “a threat to the continuity and safeguarding on Dutch and European soil of crucial technological knowledge and capabilities”.

Wingtech said that on September 30 the Dutch government had issued an order requiring Nexperia and its global subsidiaries, branches, and offices not to make any adjustments to their assets, intellectual property, business operations or personnel for one year.

The following day, three top Nexperia executives with Dutch and German nationalities submitted an emergency request to the Amsterdam court of appeal to intervene at the chipmaker. The court immediately suspended the powers of Chinese chief executive Zhang Xuezheng.

The court also suspended Zhang from his positions as executive director of Nexperia and non-executive director of its holding company, Wingtech said.

A week later, on October 7, the court ordered the appointment of an independent, non-Chinese director, who would hold decisive voting power and represent Nexperia.

The court also ordered that all shares in Nexperia — except one — should be placed under custodial management by a designated individual, not yet named, for management purposes, Wingtech said. The company added that it retained the economic rights to all of its shares."

[A_Gupta]

Chinese vessels participating in China-Malaysia joint exercise arrive at Malaysian port: PLA Southern Theater Command
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345555.shtml

The Type 052D destroyer Yinchuan, the Type 071 amphibious landing ship Jinggangshan and the Type 056A corvette Jingmen participating in the "Peace and Friendship-2025" joint exercise arrived at Port Klang, Malaysia. The Malaysian side held a grand welcoming ceremony at the port, featuring a military band and personnel from the Malaysian armed forces.

Subsequently, Chinese ground and air forces traveled by motorized convoy to their respective exercise areas. With this, all Chinese participating troops have successfully arrived at their designated locations as scheduled, according to a statement from PLA Southern Theater Command.

[A_Gupta]

New-generation tanks drive PLA Army's transition to beyond-visual-range combat: report
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345488.shtml

The ground force of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Army is transitioning from the traditional close-quarters combat to beyond-visual-range combat, enabled by its new-generation main battle tank, according to a PLA Daily report on Monday. An expert said that this will grant the PLA Army advantages in combat, with China being a leading country in the world to achieve this capability.

[Tanaji]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald- ... _topscroll

A working prototype of SDI/Golden Dome equivalent system from China. The stuff they are envisioning and doing is amazing.

The US is behind and will continue to fall back.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.

China requests WTO consultations against India’s EV, battery subsidies
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345717.shtml

On Wednesday, China submitted a request for consultations with India at the WTO regarding its subsidy measures for EVs and batteries, the MOFCOM spokesperson said.

India's relevant measures are suspected of violating multiple obligations, including national treatment, and constitute import substitution subsidies, which are explicitly prohibited by the WTO, the ministry spokesperson said.


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Qian Feng, director of the research department at the National Strategy Institute at Tsinghua University, told the Global Times on Wednesday that EVs and batteries are seen as vital components of India's manufacturing strategy as well as a prioritized means for the Indian government to address climate change and extreme weather.

The South Asian country has been stepping up imports of EVs and batteries in recent years for its development, although the overall volume is limited, according to Qian. "However, the main emphasis is placed on developing its own EV industry.

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China and India have been seeing improving signs in bilateral ties and people-to-people exchanges recently.

However, the country has also often resorted to trade protectionist acts.

Among the 20 monitored countries and regions, India topped the ranking in the global trade friction index in June, according to a survey released in August by the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade (CCPIT), China's trade promotion agency.

India also topped the ranking in the trade friction index with China, with trade frictions in electronics industries such as cameras, routers and chips staying at a high level, the CCPIT report showed.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.
China's MPS deals devastating blows to four major criminal clans in northern Myanmar
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345702.shtml

Through joint law-enforcement operations, Chinese and Myanmar police authorities have arrested more than 57,000 Chinese nationals suspected of fraud, dealing a devastating blow to the notorious four criminal clans in Kokang region, northern Myanmar, according to a statement released by the Chinese Ministry of Public Security (MPS) on Wednesday.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.
Container ship arrives in UK via China-Europe Arctic route, demonstrating viability of northeast passage
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345620.shtml

The container ship Istanbul Bridge arrived late on Monday (UK time) at Felixstowe, the UK's largest container port, via the Arctic shipping route, marking the inaugural voyage of the world's first China-Europe Arctic container express route and demonstrating the commercial viability of the northeast passage, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

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The China-Europe Arctic Express route links a number of major Chinese and European ports, including Ningbo, Shanghai, Qingdao, and Dalian on the Chinese side, and Felixstowe in the UK, Rotterdam in the Netherlands, Hamburg in Germany, and Gdańsk in Poland on the other.

Slashing the shipping period to just 20 days, the route is the fastest container route between major Chinese and European ports, according to CCTV. It was the fastest delivery in the history of container shipping, and the third delivery route between China and Europe.

This compares with traditional routes bypassing the Cape of Good Hope taking about 50 days, and those going through the Suez Canal taking about 40 days and the roughly 25 days needed by the China-Europe Railway Express.

Since the voyage was conducted in an opportune window of time, no icebreaker service was used. As the distance is much shorter, the route also reduces carbon emissions significantly, according to operators.

The opening of this route also demonstrated China's commitment to cooperation and development in Arctic affairs, the CCTV report noted.

In 2018, China released a white paper titled "China's Arctic Policy," saying that China hopes to work with all parties to build a "Polar Silk Road" through developing the Arctic shipping routes.

The significance is that to compete, India needs IMEC ASAP, IMO.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.
China unveils homegrown 90GHz real-time oscilloscope, shattering decades of foreign tech blockade
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345719.shtml

[Vayutuvan]

This is CCP news.
China unveils homegrown 90GHz real-time oscilloscope, shattering decades of foreign tech blockade
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345719.shtml

That is extraordinary in instrumentation. In my ECE UG, I designed a 5 MHz oscilloscope (did not build ofc as it was a semester end project) which was a big deal then. I would do it differently now but that was then 47 ybp.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345993.shtml
China's state security authorities uncover case of major cyberattack from US NSA employing state-level cyber-espionage weapons targeting ‘Beijing Time’: MSS

China's state security authorities have uncovered a major case of cyberattack from the US, obtaining ironclad evidence that the US National Security Agency had infiltrated China's National Time Service Center under the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The operation has thwarted the US side's attempts to steal state secrets and conduct cyber sabotage, effectively safeguarding the security of "Beijing Time," China's Ministry of State Security (MSS) said in a statement on Sunday.

Located in Xi'an, Northwest China's Shaanxi Province, the National Time Service Center generates, maintains, and broadcasts "Beijing Time." It provides high-precision time services for sectors such as national communications, finance, electric power, transportation, surveying and mapping, and national defense, while also supplying key data for calculating the Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).

The center independently developed a world-leading autonomous time measurement system and built a key national science and technology facility - the High-Accurate Ground-based Time Service System. Damage from a cyberattack could jeopardize the secure and stable operation of "Beijing Time," potentially leading to severe consequences such as network communication failures, financial system disruptions, power outages, transportation paralysis, and aerospace launch. It could even throw global timekeeping into chaos, resulting in incalculable harm and losses.

A meticulous investigation by China's state security authorities found that the US National Security Agency had long planned progressive, systematic cyberattacks against China's National Time Service Center.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.

Chinese experts analyze US Navy's reported collaborative combat aircraft development, see China, US in leading positions in manned-unmanned teaming
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1345995.shtml

US company General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc. (GA-ASI) has been contracted by the US Navy to develop conceptual designs for a collaborative combat aircraft (CCA) to support the US carrier air wing of tomorrow, Naval News reported on Sunday. A Chinese military affairs expert told the Global Times on Sunday that manned-unmanned teaming is a growing trend, noting that with China recently debuting loyal wingman drones and air superiority drones, China and the US are leaders in this field, which could significantly change the shape of warfare.

CCA is a term used by the US Air Force to describe what was often called loyal wingman drones, and now the US Navy is also ramping up developing CCAs.

CCAs are highly capable, semi-autonomous jet fighters that complement and enhance traditional, human-piloted combat aircraft. Produced in high quantities at comparatively low cost, they let commanders shift risk away from human flight crews, enhance the sensing and other capabilities of legacy aircraft formations, increase lethality of the air wing, and maximize operational flexibility across the board, according to the Naval News report.

The US is not the only country that has been developing CCAs.

During China's V-Day military parade in Beijing on September 3, the PLA unveiled two previously unseen uncrewed combat aerial vehicles (UCAVs) and two CCAs, "highlighting China's continuing investment in uncrewed systems, US media outlet Aviation Week reported at the time.

According to official descriptions provided at the military parade, these aircraft are loyal wingman drones and air superiority drones.

[RaviB]

I think XI Jinping is on the way out. He'll probably be reduced to a figurehead before the successor is decided.

Zhang Youxia has successfully removed the main XI loyalists from the CMC

https://www.andrewerickson.com/2025/10/ ... ary-party/


1. General He Weidong, Member, Political Bureau, CCP Central Committee & [Second] Vice Chairman, CMC

2. Admiral Miao Hua, CMC Member & former Director, CMC Political Work Department [Click here for CMSI report.]

3. General He Hongjun, former Executive Deputy Director, CMC Political Work Department

4. General Wang Xiubin, former Executive Deputy Director, CMC Joint Operations Command Center

5. General Lin Xiangyang, former Commander, Eastern Theater Command

6. General Qin Shutong, former Political Commissar, PLA Army

7. Admiral Yuan Huazhi, former Political Commissar, PLA Navy [Click here for CMSI report.]

8. General/Former Vice Admiral Wang Houbin, former Commander, PLA Rocket Force

9. General Wang Chunning, former Commander, People’s Armed Police Force

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.
China’s port in Peru
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1346144.shtml

Chancay Port, a deep-water hub and South America's first smart and green port, is a flagship Belt and Road cooperation project between China and Peru, which has shortened the sea voyage between the two countries from more than a month to around 23 days, while cutting shipping costs by at least 20 percent.

[A_Gupta]

China watchers, any comments on this?

Since 2022, China's land sale revenue has plummeted, dropping from 7.8 trillion yuan in 2019 to a projected 2.26 trillion yuan in 2025, a 71% decline. This collapse, driven by a faltering real estate market and mortgage defaults, has crippled local government finances. Unable to rely on central government subsidies, authorities are shifting to population-based revenue, combining poll taxes via mandatory social security contributions with personal income taxes. Enforced through the hukou system, this "breathing tax" ensures stable revenue but reduces household income, stifling consumption and potentially suppressing population growth. Historically, China moved away from poll taxes through reforms like the Tang Dynasty’s Two-Tax System and Qing Dynasty’s abolition of population-based levies, which spurred population booms. The return of poll taxes signals an economic regression, threatening long-term stability.

From the Digging Into China YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqWQbfiZf80

[Tanaji]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/exclusi ... er-9523393

China completed HAS shelters near Arunachal.

China has rapidly taken steps to negate whatsoever disadvantages it has in terms of geography when faced against India. This is just one of the last steps in their puzzle. No doubt it has buried car stores as well.

We are in a for a really tough situation should the balloon go up.

[S_Madhukar]

It is funny how despite political turmoil they have upgraded their bases in 5 years while with so called stability we make the most of that time to discuss some more. Plus they need space to park their ever growing aircraft collection! It’s a different story if their pilots are trained well but won’t matter as they have BVR numbers and a secure drone army

I think the new admin might want to target us once they are stable to announce their arrival - Eleven had been aggressive in the eastern sea when he was new

[SSridhar]

It’s a different story if their pilots are trained well but won’t matter as they have BVR numbers and a secure drone army

Their 'shashoujian' strategy.

[A_Gupta]

This is CCP news.

US to cancel 10% so-called ‘fentanyl tariffs,’ suspend 24% reciprocal tariffs against China for a year: MOFCOM

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1346945.shtml

China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) on Thursday unveiled the outcomes achieved by Chinese and US delegations during their recent economic and trade talks in Kuala Lumpur. A spokesperson of the ministry noted that the China-US economic and trade talks in Kuala Lumpur have yielded positive results, demonstrating that by upholding the spirit of equality, respect and mutual benefit, and through dialogue and cooperation, the two sides can find solutions to problems.

According to the MOFCOM, the US side will cancel the 10-percent so-called "fentanyl tariffs" and suspend, for an additional year, the 24-percent reciprocal tariffs levied on Chinese goods, including goods from the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and the Macao Special Administrative Region.

China will make corresponding adjustments to its countermeasures against the aforementioned US tariffs, the spokesperson said, noting that both sides have agreed to continue extending certain tariff exclusion measures.

The US will suspend for one year the implementation of a new rule announced on September 29 that expands its "entity-list" export restrictions to any entity that is at least 50 percent owned by one or more entities on the list. China will suspend the implementation of relevant export control measures announced on October 9 for one year and will study and refine specific plans, the spokesperson said.

The US side will suspend the implementation of measures under its Section 301 investigation targeting China's maritime, logistics and shipbuilding industries for one year. In response, China will correspondingly suspend the implementation of its countermeasures against the US side for one year once the US suspension takes effect, according to the spokesperson.

In addition, the two sides also reached consensus on issues including anti-drug cooperation on fentanyl, expanding agricultural product trade, and the handling of individual cases involving relevant enterprises, according to the spokesperson.

Both sides further confirmed the outcomes of the Madrid economic and trade talks. The US side made positive commitments in areas such as investment, and China will properly resolve issues related to TikTok with the US side.

Noting that the outcomes are hard won, the spokesperson said China looks forward to working with the US side to jointly ensure the implementation of the outcomes, and inject more certainty and stability into bilateral economic and trade cooperation as well as the world's economy.

[Vayutuvan]

CCP is as believable as the Orangeman. In Telugu, there is a saying dondoo donday.

[pravula]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/exclusi ... er-9523393

China completed HAS shelters near Arunachal.

China has rapidly taken steps to negate whatsoever disadvantages it has in terms of geography when faced against India. This is just one of the last steps in their puzzle. No doubt it has buried car stores as well.

We are in a for a really tough situation should the balloon go up.

Not just HAS for aircraft, but SAMs too

https://www.twz.com/land/china-building ... in-bunkers

[A_Gupta]

This is opinion in the official newspaper of the CCP.
I don't know what to make of it.

GT Voice: India’s industrial drive provides an opportunity to deepen China co-op
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1346989.shtml

Western media outlets often frame India's manufacturing drive through a narrow lens of competition with China, overlooking how India's pursuit of industrial self-sufficiency actually opens significant opportunities for China‑India cooperation.

On Wednesday, CNBC reported that "India is dependent on China for electronic components. Now it's trying to change that." The story revealed that in a move aimed at cutting India's import dependency for electronic components, the Indian government this week approved its first seven projects worth $626 million under its $2.7 billion electronic component manufacturing programs.

This zero-sum narrative, which portrays India's efforts to boost manufacturing development as a confrontation with Chinese manufacturing, fundamentally ignores the deep interdependence built into global supply chains. Industrial advancement has always been driven more by collaboration and specialization than by isolation.

Closer China-India supply chain cooperation actually benefits India's push for self-reliant manufacturing. Their complementarities represent an integral dimension of the ongoing transformation within the global manufacturing landscape.