Indian Army Aviation

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Re: Indian Army Aviation

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Manish_P wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:50
chetak wrote: 30 Jan 2026 22:33 ...

Do you know what Horn OK please even means?
The origins (and meanings) are shrouded in the past... especially the 'OK' part

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/t ... ous-phrase





Manish ji,

google chacha is often drunk or high and spews nonsense

Long ago, when roads were scarce and the majority of them, where they existed, were often single lane roads in questionable condition. In the Kingdom of Mysore, roads were cemented (not tarred), curtsey of the Maharaja of Mysore, who provided the cement free of cost for roads in his state

Passing traffic, when approaching head on would be able to see the road clearly and take appropriate action so that both parties could negotiate the passing safely, either by pulling off the road where possible or stopping completely in a safe spot, to allow the other vehicle to pass. There were often long straight stretches and heavily laden goods vehicles with noisy cabins filled with engine noise were the ones that generally used these roads.

Following vehicles, which wanted to overtake slower moving vehicles in front of them would not be fully aware of the lay of the road ahead and obstacles like jutting rocks, ditches, road repair materials piled up by the side of the road (not to mention slow moving bullock/horse drawn carts that could panic the animals if a noisy truck/bus passed too close to them)) and what have you abounded on both sides of the road and hence would find it difficult to pass without the active and willing participation of the vehicle ahead.

Moreover, state roads like those in the old Mysore kingdom were tree (usually tamarind trees) lined on both sides almost all the way through, complete with protruding branches, parked trucks et al to cock up things further. In those days, vehicles frequently stopped to top up their radiator water

Under these circumstances, the sign "horn please" told the following vehicle what to do to attract the attention of the driver ahead.

When the driver ahead heard the horn, he would, after assessing the road in front of him, tell the vehicle behind when it was safe for them to pass.

There was a switch in the driver's cabin that was labelled the OK light

When the driver ahead felt that it was safe for him, as well as, the vehicle behind that wished to overtake him, he would flip the OK switch which then turned on the flashing OK light mounted on the rear of his vehicle, indicating to the following vehicle that it was OK for them to pass.

In those days the sign said "Horn Please" and the OK was painted below OK light that the driver could turn on from his cab.

This signage was clearly visible and was very logical, as well as, practical for those times but has now been corrupted by google gavars and dumb$h!t journos who don't know any better because they don't research before they vent
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chetak wrote: 05 Feb 2026 12:04 ...
google chacha is often drunk or high and spews nonsense
...
In this case it was Madame Urvija Banerji
...
Under these circumstances, the sign "horn please" told the following vehicle what to do to attract the attention of the driver ahead.

When the driver ahead heard the horn, he would, after assessing the road in front of him, tell the vehicle behind when it was safe for them to pass.

There was a switch in the driver's cabin that was labelled the OK light

When the driver ahead felt that it was safe for him, as well as, the vehicle behind that wished to overtake him, he would flip the OK switch which then turned on the flashing OK light mounted on the rear of his vehicle, indicating to the following vehicle that it was OK for them to pass.
...
I do remember reading this. Don't recollect where but seems to be in a physical printed news article.
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The point being they should never have to retort to "Horn Ok Please" model. Hard floor is higher than the hard ceiling on these birds in our neck of the woods/stone/mountains... Leave them in Rajasthan and hope the fine sand doesn't clog them engines.
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VIDEO: https://x.com/AjayshreeSamby3/status/20 ... 71039?s=20 ---> Army APACHE.

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042254399381389386?s=20 ---> The Indian Army showcased the firepower and advanced combat capabilities of its Apache attack helicopters during Exercise Brahmastra at the Pokhran Firing Range. Also called the ‘tanks in the air’, the advanced helicopters showcased precision strike capabilities by successfully launching AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, rockets and an active display of gunfire.

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042247359036534890?s=20 ---> The Indian Army showcased the firepower and advanced combat capabilities of its Apache attack helicopters during Exercise Brahmastra at the Pokhran Firing Range. Also called the ‘tanks in the air’, the advanced helicopters showcased precision strike capabilities by successfully launching AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, rockets and an active display of gunfire.

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042251323102670908?s=20 ---> Brigadier PK Singh, Briagde Commander says, "During this firing exercise, our pilots conducted simulator training, mission planning, and target engagement exercises. Our technical team thoroughly inspected the helicopters and weapon systems, making them available for firing. The successful firing test validated the accuracy, combat capability, and preparedness of these helicopters. In today's network-centric warfare, attack helicopters, immediate fire support to the Land Force commander, plus ownership and control of these helicopters, should be completely with the Land Forces....The induction of Apache, Prachand, and Rudra helicopters into the Indian Army has significantly transformed our combat capabilities. Our pilots are a unique combination of courage, skill and technical proficiency, always ready to give our forces an edge in every future conflict."

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042250471101059176?s=20 ---> The Indian Army showcased the firepower and advanced combat capabilities of its Apache attack helicopters during Exercise Brahmastra at the Pokhran Firing Range. Also called the ‘tanks in the air’, the advanced helicopters showcased precision strike capabilities by successfully launching AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, rockets and an active display of gunfire.

https://x.com/Defencecore/status/204225 ... 19490?s=20 ---> Massive fleet of 6 Apaches for almost $1 billion, truly a game changer, strategic balance shifted. Brilliant prioritization by the Indian Army.🫡
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VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042253258182558088?s=20 ---> Colonel Vikrant Sharma, Commanding Officer, Apache 451 Squadron says, "The induction of Apache helicopter in the Indian Army has significantly strengthened the combat effectiveness. The Apache attack helicopters bring with them an overwhelming operational capability, combining precision firepower, advanced sensors, and the ability to operate effectively in a complex and dynamic battlefield environment. As an integral component of our battle doctrines, the Apache significantly enhances our ability to identify, engage, and neutralise hostile targets with speed and accuracy...The effectiveness of attack helicopters in modern warfare depends on how closely they are integrated with ground operations. Since their primary role is to engage and neutralise threats that directly influence the land battle, their employment must remain highly responsive to the needs of ground commanders. This level of responsiveness can be best achieved when these capabilities are organically aligned with the land forces. In today's evolving threat landscape, where the battlefield is increasingly contested, the Apache provides a critical edge..."

VIDEO: https://x.com/ANI/status/2042275702918304023?s=20 ---> The Indian Army showcased the firepower and advanced combat capabilities of its Apache attack helicopters during Exercise Brahmastra at the Pokhran Firing Range. Also called the ‘tanks in the air’, the advanced helicopters showcased precision strike capabilities by successfully launching AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, rockets and an active display of gunfire.
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On Apache: the MOD should instruct these folks who operate Apache to learn from the system and adapt the LCH helo to imbibe such features over time. That is the prudent way to match capability of videshi maal into Indian maal. We need some young folks who can make things indigenously for India, things like precision firepower, advanced sensors, and the ability to operate effectively in a complex and dynamic battlefield environment. Just being glorified operators of Apache is not the point. This goes for the Army and Airforce.
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https://x.com/Kunal_Biswas707/status/20 ... 9727180946
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Reported back in January of this year, seems things are going smooth with HELINA, just yesterday we saw Army Aviation AH-64EI firing HELLFIRE and soon we shall see Army's own Rudras packed with 8 x Helina ATGMs at War-games.

Prachand integration is next.
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The picture is from this
https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/2042598588245774361
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Shri K Moses Chalai, IAS, Secretary (DPE), Ministry of Finance, visited Hindustan Aeronautics Limited today. He held discussions with Dr. D. K. Sunil, CMD, HAL; Dr. Barenya Senapati, Director (Finance); Shri Ravi K., Director (Operations); and senior officers.
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India’s AH-64E Apache attack helicopter fleet set for big combat readiness upgrade as US greenlights support deal
In a move that will help sharpen the operational readiness of the Indian armed forces, the US Department of State has approved a possible foreign military sale (FMS) for follow-on support and sustainment services for the AH-64E Apache attack helicopters to India, worth $198.2 million.

According to the notification, India has sought sustainment support services for the Apache fleet, along with engineering, technical and logistics assistance from the US government and contractors.

The proposed package also includes technical data, publications, personnel training, and other programme and logistics support elements aimed at ensuring long-term operational availability of the helicopters.

The approval comes as India continues to expand and strengthen its combat aviation capabilities. The Apache helicopters, known for their advanced targeting systems, heavy firepower, and battlefield survivability, form a key part of India’s attack helicopter capabilities.

"The proposed sale will improve India’s capability to meet current and future threats, strengthen its homeland defence, and deter regional threats. India will have no difficulty absorbing these articles and services into its armed forces," a statement from the US Department of State read.

The US further stated that the support package would not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors for the programme will be Boeing and Lockheed Martin.

India had earlier inducted Apache helicopters for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and later signed a separate deal for Apache helicopters for the Army Aviation Corps.

AH-64E Apache attack helicopters, which have the capability to shoot fire and forget anti-tank guided missiles, air-to-air missiles, rockets and other ammunition, and also modern EW capabilities to provide versatility to the helicopter in a network-centric aerial warfare, have been modified specifically to suit the standards demanded by the IAF.

The helicopter is capable of delivering a variety of weapons, which include air-to-ground Hellfire missiles, 70 mm Hydra rockets and air-to-air Stinger missiles. Apache also carries one 30 mm chain gun with 1200 rounds as part of the area weapon sub-system. It also has a fire control radar, which has a 360° coverage and a nose-mounted sensor suite for target acquisition and night vision systems.

Besides, the US also approved a possible sale of sustainment support for M777A2 Ultra-Light Howitzers for an estimated cost of $230 million. India had also requested to buy long-term sustainment support for M777A2 Ultra-Light Howitzers.

The following non-major defence equipment items will be included: ancillary items; spares; repair and return; training; technical assistance; field service representative; depot capability; and other related elements of logistics and program support, the Department of State said, referring to the support services for the howitzers.
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