India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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drnayar wrote: 24 May 2026 17:43
ah numbers .. :(( orange man loves numbers doesnt he. Means nothing tbh.
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https://x.com/ANI/status/2057410582765322353?s=20

Delhi: US Ambassador to India, Sergio Gor says, "... Investment flows are reaching new heights. Indian companies continue to expand in the United States, particularly in pharmaceuticals, manufacturing, and technology, while US firms are increasing their footprint in India’s fast‑growing market. I was thrilled to see Indian companies committing more than $20 billion in investments in the United States at the annual Select Investment Summit. Not only is $20 billion a significant figure, but all embassies compete to bring investment into the US — and we were proud that our embassy, working with partners in India, ranked first in the world, an incredible achievement."
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https://x.com/TheNavroopSingh/status/20 ... 81492?s=20
Billion of $ Capital Drain into America from India ! From Global South to Global North ! And we are being told to celebrate this by Viceroy Gor !

America’s Predatory Economics at display ! Milking out Indian Billionaires, Companies for access & gravy train to continue. India needs capital & investment not America !

Ulti Ganga Beh Rahi hain !
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https://x.com/KPSingh0809/status/205761 ... 45674?s=20
Buyers do not possess the leverage that creators and sellers of technology do. When you are at the receiving end, every exporter of technology dictates terms whether you like it or not.

The most overrated notion taught to our bureaucratic class, political class, and sections of the armed forces is that leverage can be purchased. It cannot.

Real leverage is built by creating technologies that the world genuinely needs.

The day India’s political leadership, bureaucracy, and armed forces truly understand this will mark the true renaissance of Make in India. Mark my words.
https://x.com/PrasadSatya10/status/2057 ... 37351?s=20
For such understanding, we need Atmanirbar minds.
https://x.com/KPSingh0809/status/205762 ... 49816?s=20
Probably the way Americans and Chinese are humiliating and trying to constrain India's growth will certainly help in realising this soon.
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https://x.com/TheMilObserverr/status/20 ... 92624?s=20
America said it is ready to sell India as much oil as India wants.

Jaishankar’s reply was simple and ice cold.

“If America puts America First, then India puts India First.”

India’s responsibility is to provide affordable and secure energy to 1.4 billion people.

Not to satisfy geopolitical pressure from any side.

Jaishankar also made another point very clear.

India’s ties with Russia are based on national interest, not third country approval.

If affordable and reliable oil comes from Russia, India will buy from Russia.

If better terms come from elsewhere, India will evaluate those too.

That is strategic autonomy.

No noise, No aggression, Just clarity.

Jaishankar said exactly what needed to be said.

https://x.com/BhartiyNiveshak/status/20 ... 94119?s=20
No one received Rubio upon arrival in India. Misri giving a cold shoulder—walking around nonchalantly with one hand in his pocket—while Jaishankar openly discussed Russia in his presence. India has reciprocated well to the US.

@Sidhant
’s question on racism was spot on; Rubio was clearly caught off guard. A tougher question on China buying Russian oil without tariffs would have been ideal, but this was still good.

The only issue was allowing Rubio to meet PM Modi on the very first day for such a long, direct meeting. It should have been kept for the end as a purely ceremonial call and photo op.

India may have scheduled the early meeting to soften him up before delivering the bamboo. And it was not only in India.
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In short the whole Rubio visit is a large Chai biskooth exercise. it keeps the machine running until another circus from the Bahadur in white house. It is six more months and then Bahadur will become lame duck.
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India can get oil from Russia but NG has to come from either Qatar or, God forbid, from the US.
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drnayar wrote: 24 May 2026 23:16 [img...]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HJGdjMGakAE ... ame=medium[/img]

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Rudradev wrote: 24 May 2026 21:37 The above seems to validate Chetak ji's observation somewhat
gajo vaa gardabho vaa...in USA they are all the same as far as India relations are concerned.
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Yes. Asking AI about connections between C. Smith and the current Pope, AI gave a long answer. I don't think they have a personal relationship but they agree on ideology. The final summary was:
While Pope Leo XIV must navigate relationships with New Delhi using quiet, careful diplomacy to prevent a backlash against local parishes, Rep. Chris Smith acts as the blunt instrument in Washington. By leveraging his subcommittee chairmanship, Smith aggressively pressures both the U.S. State Department and the Indian government to safeguard Catholic assets and religious freedom—aligning perfectly with the Vatican's underlying goals for the region.
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Rubio visit & the art of the India Usa deal

India is facing a dilemma with the US. Recently US has cozy-ed its way to China and we don't know what transpired between Emperor and DJT (with the Deep State goading behind the scenes). At the same time DJT and Russia may strike a deal with Ukraine. Such arrangements puts India in a bind. Make no mistake India is not an alternate to China in any sense. India is ploughing its own field and building up its strengths but it lags behind many areas unlike the biggies. The Quad is precarious nonsense, with Japan and Australia wanting India since they cannot depend on the US. Immigration to the US has soured big time and Green cards is in a mess for Indians. The goodwill that India and Indians had for the US is fast disappearing and recent election outcomes puts the US interference in various places as a huge question mark.

The aftermath of Op Sindoor and the Paki tango by the US is not exactly US India relationships. Delivery of engines (a deep state pulling of strings) has left India's atmanirbhata effort in aircrafts into a limbo mode. DJT takes potshots now and then against India and his obsession with failed marshal of Pukeland is grating on the nerves.

Meanwhile we have the Kangress in bed with SoreAss and China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82FIM162uHc


// btw Rubio recently said that there are stupid people in the US. He forgot to add that the current Administration is increasing looking stupid in the world. How many nations are pissed of with the US, not that it has to be nice and accommodating, but it has bared its fangs on one and all and is looking pretty stupid overall. The recent decisions reeks of naked greed of the Deep State of the US with their 300T loot of wealth across the world over the centuries including India.
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I think there is more than meets the eye going on with Marco Rubio's India visit. Most Sec of State visits are essentially top level diplomatic events by a high ranking cabinet member representing the views of the current Presidential administration, with no further agenda.

However, Rubio may be leveraging the visit to curry favour amongst the Republican base to support his own Presidential ambitions for 2028. It is widely rumored that the party is split between a hardline MAGA faction that supports JD Vance and a more conventional faction, which includes Neocons and Evangelicals, that was always a somewhat uneasy member of the Trump coalition. Rubio is likely trying to consolidate the "conventional GOP" support in order to mount a primary challenge against Vance, and part of that is adopting a loud public posture of "championing the cause of persecuted Christians worldwide".
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Vayutuvan wrote: 25 May 2026 01:29
drnayar wrote: 24 May 2026 23:16 [img...]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HJGdjMGakAE ... ame=medium[/img]

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Rudradev wrote: 25 May 2026 22:39 I think there is more than meets the eye going on with Marco Rubio's India visit. Most Sec of State visits are essentially top level diplomatic events by a high ranking cabinet member representing the views of the current Presidential administration, with no further agenda.

However, Rubio may be leveraging the visit to curry favour amongst the Republican base to support his own Presidential ambitions for 2028. It is widely rumored that the party is split between a hardline MAGA faction that supports JD Vance and a more conventional faction, which includes Neocons and Evangelicals, that was always a somewhat uneasy member of the Trump coalition. Rubio is likely trying to consolidate the "conventional GOP" support in order to mount a primary challenge against Vance, and part of that is adopting a loud public posture of "championing the cause of persecuted Christians worldwide".
Rubio has been left to the mercies of a peevish babucracy. In both cities, the local dm and dgp came to receive him on the tarmac, the admin did not even bother sending a minister or higher up party functionary as is the case for "smaller" nations. The pm gave him a grand total of 1 hour. Then his trip to agra was set at about 1-2 in the afternoon. Right now india is at a boil, and the taj mahal area by all accounts is a furnace, and rubio went in his usual suit and boot with the surrounding temp at 45 C. The first cause he is most likely to undertake is a fight against sunstroke and dehydration.
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The Marco Rubio visit is really a side show and does not matter much. The bigger issue is the China factor which looms large. In the DJT/Emperor meeting the issue of Taiwan came up. China wants to take in Taiwan and consolidate its power in the Asia region. Emperor sounded off DJT on Taiwan and DJT stayed mum, no defence of Taiwan in any stmt. Currently a peaceful reunion is what China wants from Taiwan, in lieu of forceful takeover. The other thing that Emperor yelled about is Japan to DJT who got an earful. China is not happy with Japan flexing its muscle and could any day go nuclear if required. South Korea is another irritant for China. That whole area has Russia, North&South Korea, Japan and China all jockeying for influence. North korea has gone to Russia recently. Japan has overtly sided with India and is part of Quad. Vietnam and phillipines are countering china bullying by buying things from India and Japan to defend themselves. Any US understanding with China puts a monkey wrench into Asia. India of course holds sway over Malacca strait with the Indian Navy. China oil supply routes all go through malacca, Russia can only supply a small fraction of China's needs.
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