Pic.4 is the closest I could get. And I dont have the video, had to <PrintScreen> the streaming video.Kanson wrote:Tilak..good find.. But where is the interceptor ? I am seeing only one missile then only smoke...
Can you share the video link pls..Can you upload it to any fileshare.. The link you shared previously didnt show any such thing...
It was Dr. Vijay Kumar Saraswat.It had articles on Misala scientists from DRDO and it quitely mentioned that this gentelmen was going to head soon to be formed (as in months) team that would develop the anti-masala.
Its out of the blue for there is low pass filter on anything DRDO says or writes.Yerna wrote:Werent there news reports around this time last year that DRDO was working on a 100 KM extended Akash which would be equivalent, if not better than Patriot? So this is not completely out of the blue.
See the earlier comments in this thread that there must have been some foreign help somewhere for DRDO to come up with this."ATI"-PRITHVIramana wrote:A portion of the interceptor was similar to the Prithvi missile but its second stage was a totally new segment.
The interceptor had inertial navigation guidance system, used mid-course in the flight, and an active seeker-guidance system in its terminal phase to waylay the incoming missile.
Many technologies relevant to the interceptor were validated in the mission. A radar was used and the interceptor had a seeker guidance on board.
DRDO sources said the interception could take place at varying heights. "In this instance, the interception took place 50 km above the ground. It can be at any height, depending on the time of the launch because our aim is to destabilise the incoming missile."
I am unable to get to the earlier report.. till then, i would keep my finger's cross with IE's lifafa venture, now VC-ed from washington funds & cia clouts.Sridhar wrote:The Express report is actually a PTI report. PTI is pretty much a Government agency. So are we to start boycotting all newspapers that subscribe to PTI now?
It was probably an early report, at which time there was no confirmation of success. Now that there is, it is irrelevant. Let's focus on the actual news, including any technical details that may be released, rather than on childish second-guessing of newspapers' intents.
Er, it doesn't mean that the missile has a range of thousands of km but that it can deal with the high terminal velocities associated with missiles that are fired from thousands of km. I am sure ArunS and others can tell you what those velocities are.SaiK wrote:I am unable to get to the earlier report.. till then, i would keep my finger's cross with IE's lifafa venture, now VC-ed from washington funds & cia clouts.
Per the PTI: Its even more encouraging.. this missile is of 1000s of km range.. I would say, its based on AGNI-1/2 specs.
India unveils new supersonic anti-missile system
Balasore, Nov 27 (PTI) In a major breakthrough in its quest for an anti-missile system, India today carried out a surface-to-surface missile interception over the waters of Bay of Bengal, unveiling a new supersonic interceptor missile.
Test fired from the Wheeler Islands off the Chandipur coast, the new missile, only labelled AXO, successfully intercepted a surface-to-surface Prithvi target missile around 1100 hours.
"We have successfully validated many technologies relevant to an interceptor missile," top DRDO officials said raising prospects of the country developing an indegenious anti-missile system.
Later, top DRDO scientists, on the condition of anonymity, said in New Delhi that the missile had the capability of intercepting an incoming missiles thousands of kilometres away and had a response time of just 30 seconds.
Though tightlipped about the contours of the new missile, DRDO officials said "it was supersonic, highly manouvreable and was launched using its own mobile launcher".
Labelling the missile as of "a different class" from the US Patriot PAC-III missile which India is observing along with Israeli Arrow missiles, Defence Ministry sources said New Delhi would continue its analysing of the American system. PTI
That is to be expected. The interceptor flies for 38 second and the kill vehicle separates from the booster. But because of hypersonic speed, the missile's heat shield will however emit a thin vapor stream. And any thruster action will also generate a smoke trail. In fact in that video I saw the smoke trail that was helical (before the taget got blown apart); The classic helical exhaust plume is result of thruster firing pattern when missile is on the home(ing) run.Shankar wrote:And one last thing arun -the interceptor missile had a very thin smoke trail compared to Prthvi .
Sorry boss but I take umbrage to it.Raj Malhotra wrote:Let us see what was required for this missile:-
The radar, FCC, Communication center could perhaps be imported but the point is - whether the missile is indigenous or it is just a secretely imported or assembled Arrow-2-3.
Glad to see that DRDO will someday make its first seeker. Start with an ABM seeker. Amen!The DRDO has not built any active radar sensor till date, now directly a ABM missile sensor! seems like a big deal, but then why not?
Don't have to look far, vertically launched Brahmos does, and so does Agni-'s RV, and LCA's ejection seat.There is nothing to show that DRDO has mastered lateral thrusters or TVC but then why not?
I saw Prithvi Actuators, and they were pretty decent.There is nothing to show that DRDO has mastered high quality actuators,
Jcage pointed out today to me it publish its 2watt PN coded proximity RF switch that I think is super duper top of the line.super quality proximity
I agree they can workout. And mark my words that Akash ramjet missile program in no small way paved the ground for DRDO to jump to this ABM missile success. It must have been a tremendous learning experience.and fast acting fuse etc or even complicated sensor software but then things can always work out, can it not?
It is my friend. Please note that like ICBM & nuclear weapons, ABM is also a strategic weapon. And no country will part with its secrets of strategic weapons. It will be very naive and irresponsible to think that Russia/USA or Israel will sell and provide ABM knowhow. Heck Israel will not tell it to USA, why will Israel that is know to think about its interest rationally, will be irrational to give it to India? Talk about paranoid USA, less said the better on any chance of getting the knowhow or software code.All in all this one hell of a huge news if it is an indigenous missile!!!
Bahi sahib, I would be happy to see India buy Arrow or Patriot by the hundreds, BUT ONLY IF they are willing to part with the design and code, and for USA, IF THEY also agree to part with code for SM3 boost phase interceptor and Agies Radar.SaiK wrote:yeah!.. big monies involved in this arrow/patriot affair.. i am feeling about 10 such ABMs need per designated cities in India, [at least class-A cities are must, and then those B cities included, plus other important cities of strategic importance].
so little doosra is fine!.. but, care must be taken that it does not become a loophole into those lifafa gangs who now will spend more buttering cash into those middlemen to get India buying about 100s of Arrows and Patriots.
Yes, this continued insistence that similar systems have not been fielded, is somewhat bizarre given the amount of evidence that is available to the contrary.Arun_S wrote:Sorry boss but I take umbrage to it.Raj Malhotra wrote:Let us see what was required for this missile
The radar, FCC, Communication center could perhaps be imported but the point is - whether the missile is indigenous or it is just a secretely imported or assembled Arrow-2-3.
We need to have clear sight to discern between good, bad and ugly. Why every time ask Sunita to take the "Agni Pareeksha" to prove the child is mine or someone elses? Is it because "Log kya kahengey?" or My memory & vision is clouded, so throw an allegation and see if it will stick or be rebutted in which case it is anyway "Paak" (Pious). Throwing mud wilily nilly is not good. DRDO record on BM has been good and credible.
RM wrote:The DRDO has not built any active radar sensor till date, now directly a ABM missile sensor! seems like a big deal, but then why not?
Link posted previously on work on this front. A large ABM has more space and volume, which can result in a larger sensor and hence better performance.ArunS wrote:Glad to see that DRDO will someday make its first seeker. Start with an ABM seeker. Amen!
There is nothing to show that DRDO has mastered high quality actuators,
Actuators for the Trishul, Akash etc mentioned here as well.I saw Prithvi Actuators, and they were pretty decent.
and fast acting fuse etc or even complicated sensor software but then things can always work out, can it not?
Amen. There are ample indications about the different kinds of fuzes India has mastered in various publications, manufactured by different firms, both private and public.ArunS wrote: I agree they can workout. And mark my words that Akash ramjet missile program in no small way paved the ground for DRDO to jump to this ABM missile success. It must have been a tremendous learning experience
Well said!It is my friend. Please note that like ICBM & nuclear weapons, ABM is also a strategic weapon. And no country will part with its secrets of strategic weapons. It will be very naive and irresponsible to think that Russia/USA or Israel will sell and provide ABM knowhow. Heck Israel will not tell it to USA, why will Israel that is know to think about its interest rationally, will be irrational to give it to India? Talk about paranoid USA, less said the better on any chance of getting the knowhow or software code.
... M. Natarajan, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, told The Hindu over the phone from New Delhi: "With this, India has acquired the capability of air defence against the incoming ballistic missile threat. It is a significant milestone in the missile defence of the country."
He described the success of the mission as a "glow made when a thousand lamps are merged into one. That is what I feel."
"There was a lot of not only hardware but also software custom-built for this mission. They have been validated, and that is our greatest satisfaction. The credit should go to the whole team," Mr. Natarajan said.
The project director was Dr. V.K. Saraswat, Chief Controller, Missile and Strategic Systems, Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).
Trajectory monitored
The target missile was launched around 10.15 a.m. Its trajectory was continuously monitored, and the information stored in the Mission Control Centre. This information was transmitted to the Launch Control Centre for launching the interceptor, which took off some seconds later.
The target was a standard Prithvi-II missile, modified to simulate the trajectory of an enemy missile. A portion of the interceptor was similar to the Prithvi missile but its second stage was a totally new segment.
The interceptor had inertial navigation guidance system, used mid-course in the flight, and an active seeker-guidance system in its terminal phase to waylay the incoming missile. Many technologies relevant to the interceptor were validated in the mission. A radar was used and the interceptor had a seeker guidance on board.
27.11.2006 / 18:11 India rebuffs "missile attack " as part of ABM program
NEW DELHI. November 27, 2006. KAZINFORM - The Indian anti-missile defense forces have successfully intercepted a warhead of a ballistic missile on Monday in the framework of creating the Indian national ABM system - a first time in anti-missile defense tests.
The Prithvi-2 missile and an interceptor missile were fired from different test sites on the coast of Orissa state with an interval of 60 seconds; the interceptor successfully hit the target in the assigned area above the Bay of Bengal.
Indian experts have assessed the anti-missile maneuver as "tremendous success" India could be proud of, said a representative of a scientific-research center that created the new anti-missile defense complex.
Kazinform refers to Itar-Tass correspodent Sergei Karmalito.
The SAM, with a range of nearly 100 km, will be ready for flight trials by the end of 2005. It would be in the class of the Patriot missile of the US (90 km) range, according to Dr V.K. Saraswat, Director of the Research Centre Imarat (RCI), one of the key Defence laboratories in the country's missile programme.
The building blocks for the `hit-to-kill', SAM, like the propulsion, control and guidance, homing devices, using radio frequency (RF) seekers, have already been developed at the Hyderabad-based RCI, in collaboration with the other Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), laboratories, he told newspersons.
A long range tracking radar, which can sight an aircraft at a distance of 400 km is under development. It can track about 200 aircraft simultaneously, giving a tactical advantage for the targeting and launching of SAMs, Dr Saraswat said.
sivab wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/DRDO ... 608903.cms
DRDO's 'new' missile shoots down Prithvi
Rajat Pandit
[ 27 Nov, 2006 2357hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
NEW DELHI: Hit by trenchant criticism, DRDO yanked a 'new missile' out of its hat on Monday and used it to 'intercept' a Prithvi missile. And then, promptly proclaimed India had achieved a "significant milestone" in ballistic missile defence (BMD) capabilities.
AshishN wrote:sivab wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/DRDO ... 608903.cms
DRDO's 'new' missile shoots down Prithvi
Rajat Pandit
[ 27 Nov, 2006 2357hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
NEW DELHI: Hit by trenchant criticism, DRDO yanked a 'new missile' out of its hat on Monday and used it to 'intercept' a Prithvi missile. And then, promptly proclaimed India had achieved a "significant milestone" in ballistic missile defence (BMD) capabilities.
NSN (TimesOfIslamabad) Bitter that no one appreciates his journalistic genius even 0.314% as much as he himself does, Rajat Pandit yanked a [NSN regrets] out of his [NSN regrets] today, and used it to 'analyze' the recent missile defense success that India has documented openly. And than, he promptly proclaimed that he had achieved a "significant milestone" in Dhimmitude, saying "Praise be to Lord Macaulay".
Hit by trenchant criticism, DRDO yanked a 'new missile' out of its hat on Monday and used it to 'intercept' a Prithvi missile. And then, promptly proclaimed India had achieved a "significant milestone" in ballistic missile defence (BMD) capabilities.
Because the average journalist knows next to nothing about defence issues, and gladly reports whatever makes good sensationalist copy, or whatever bilge his sources/ editors tell him without crosschecking. Add to that an elitist contempt for the "babus" in GOI orgs who obviously are not part of "India shining" and you have the present state of affairs.Why does the media have to criticize the DRDO for everything?
