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Indian businesses create 19,000 new jobs in Britain in past 12 months

Indian businesses have created at least 19,000 new jobs in Britain in the past 12 months and helped save some 14,000 existing ones, British Deputy High Commissioner Mike Connor says.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Ind ... 228058.cms
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Has the UK declassified the role of the british in handing over Gilgit to TSP in 1947
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G Subramaniam wrote:Has the UK declassified the role of the british in handing over Gilgit to TSP in 1947
what's to declassify? a young officer took matters into his own hands to 'help' his beloved troops
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Lalmohan wrote:
G Subramaniam wrote:Has the UK declassified the role of the british in handing over Gilgit to TSP in 1947
what's to declassify? a young officer took matters into his own hands to 'help' his beloved troops

We know what happened
The question is whether a White Paper was put out
Perhaps Johann can clarify
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And this young officer (Maj. Brown was his name) was given a medal (something like order of the empire) for his work. He was not, as one would expect from an officer defying the King's order, court martialled.

That does not leave much doubt about what happened beneath the surface.
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Indian oil and gas company ONGC intends to buy 100% of shares in Imperial Energy, a British oil company operating in West Siberia and Kazakhstan, a business daily reported on Tuesday.

http://www.bbj.hu/main/news_41606_india ... hstan.html

(India providing more financial assistance to UK.)
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People dance to Om Shanti Om, create record
Tue, Jul 8 11:44 AM
More than 200 people danced together to the tune of a hit Indian song in the city's Trafalgar square to set a world record for 'Bollywood dancing' by most number of people.
Hosted by Strictly Come Dancing's Erin Boag, the event encouraged young people to break several world records including largest number of football freestyle tricks in one minute.
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A unique Briton of Indian origin.

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lots of sikhs who wear their turbans in the west especially when growing up are brave folk. they battle ridicule, discrimination..all kinds of stuff to uphold their traditions.

compare that to the average paki who just jumped onto some alien culture for identity.
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'British Muslims fighting own troops'
LONDON: British Muslims are part of the Taliban force fighting against the country's troops deployed under the Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan, a British General said in an interview with a newspaper published on Saturday.

General Ed Butler, a former commander of Britain's force in Afghanistan, was quoted by the Daily Telegraph as saying that British forces "have uncovered evidence that British Muslims are actively supporting the Taliban and al-Qaida in attacks on coalition forces in southern Afghanistan".

"There are British passport holders who live in Britain, who are being found in places like Kandahar," said Butler, a former head of the Special Air Service (SAS) troops in Afghanistan.

Fearing the possibility of terrorist activity being hatched against Britain in Afghanistan, he said: "There is a link between Kandahar and urban conurbations in the UK". It was revealed earlier this year that RAF Nimrod spy planes monitoring Taliban radio signals in the war-ravaged country had intercepted militants speaking among themselves with Yorkshire and Midlands accents.

According to the newspaper, British intelligence is aware of the radical British Muslims participating in the Afghan conflict. The officials have also warned that the west faces a "long haul" in Afghanistan.

Butler, widely regarded as one of the best British officers of his generation, also recommended the long stay of British forces in southern Afghanistan despite the heavy casualties because of the continued presence of the radical British Muslims in the region.

"This is a highly significant mission. If we do not win against the protagonists of the 9/11 attacks then those who are against us will take great succour from it," he told the newspaper.

In 2006, when British forces deployed to Helmand province, Butler had warned the government that there was a strong possibility that British soldiers would end up killing Muslims who held British passports and were fighting with the Taliban and al-Qaida. Butler has announced his decision to retire from the army earlier this year.
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British 'public workers' Beijing trip to cost taxpayers 7 million pounds!
Fri, Aug 8 06:05 PM

London : Taxpayers will splash a whopping seven million pounds to send around 600 public workers to Beijing for Olympics.

The public workers include politicians, press officers, policemen, and BBC staff, who are heading to China for an Olympics junket.

While Gordon Brown is taking 20 aides, that costs 114,000 pounds, a whole bunch of ministers and officials are also going.

London Mayor Boris Johnson is taking 13 staff for 167,000 pounds, and the BBC is sending a team of 437 to cover the events.

As this totals up to a bill of around 3million pounds, it is believed that Met Police's fact-finding trip for London 2012 will cost around 240,000 pounds.

Besides, the London Development Agency has already dished out 3million pounds for hiring a private members' club in Beijing.
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interesting topic :

What would a Scottish Air Force be like ?
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83307

watch the brits there fighting the scots of occupied scotland !
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PANAJI, India (AFP) - The mother of a British girl killed in Goa has postponed a return visit to India after local welfare activists tried to have her charged with parental neglect, her lawyer said Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080808/wl ... 0808103246
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India to be focus of 2009 London Book Fair
Thu, Aug 14 10:13 AM
The London Book Fair has announced that the focus for the next year's fair will be on India with the theme: 'India Through Fresh Eyes'.
The programme in April 2009 will cover linguistic, economic, geographic and demographic issues.
A spokesperson for Federation of Indian Publishers said: "The London Book Fair will provide great opportunity to our publishers, and also to old and new emerging authors, to showcase their latest titles and highlight the progress made in India in the book publishing industry."
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Baba Ramdev draws large crowds in Britain
14 Aug 2008
LONDON: Large numbers of people from across Britain are thronging to the ‘yoga camps’ of the yoga guru Baba Ramdev in London as he teaches the basics of pranayam on his week-long visit to the country.

Baba Ramdev, who enjoys a considerable following among Britain's Asian population through his daily telecast and DVDs, is on a six-day visit during which he is scheduled to hold camps in eight cities.

The largest gathering has been reported from Leicester, which has a large minority of Indian origin. The camp was also attended by Leicester’s Lord Mayor, Manjula Sood.

She said: “Health includes not only the physical body but also spiritual, mental, and self-discipline. Swami's mission and message for the entire world is everyone can achieve a healthy lifestyle through yoga”.

Devotees queued up to register at his camp from early in the morning. People from the US, Canada, India and Africa were among those who enrolled for the Leicester yoga session, which ran from 7 am to 9.30 am.

Speaking at the Guru Panth Prakash Gurdwara, Ramdev said: “Yoga is the way of life. Yoga is an ancient medicine. Make yoga your future, your life”.

Priti Raichura, organiser of the Leicester event, said: “We had a huge turnout. It just shows that there's a real interest out there in people who wanted to learn more about how they can live healthier lives”.

“What was so nice to see was there were people from different backgrounds, all walks of life. We had Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians all coming together to practice these ancient techniques”.
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Ambitious Indian companies are flexing their muscles in the global economy: new research by accountant KPMG shows India is poised to become a net 'deal exporter', with more of its firms snapping up rivals overseas than surrendering to foreign buyers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/17/india
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‘India made 75 investments in UK last year’
M. Ramesh

Chennai, Aug. 15 Here’s an ode to our former colonial masters. In 2007-08, India made 75 investments in the UK, which created 19,000 jobs in the country, according to the UK Inward Investment Report 2007-08.

The British High Commission in India sees this as an example of the growing ties between India and the UK — a growth that extends well beyond commerce, into education and collaboration in science.

Mr Mike Connor, British Deputy High Commissioner in Southern India, points out that the London Stock Exchange hosts 52 Indian companies with a combined market cap of £9 billion. Indian firms have raised a total of £3 billion, he says.
Tata-Corus

While only big ticket investments such as of Tata-Corus come into the limelight, there are a number of small and medium investments that keep happening. For example, in June 2007, Bangalore-based Dynamatic Technologies, Asia’s largest producer of hydraulic gear pumps, acquired the assets of Sauer-Danfoss in Swindon.

But officials of the High Commission stress that the Indo-UK relations are not just about trade and investment, examples for which abound. Only a couple of days ago, there was one marquee investment by an UK company – Tesco – which has committed to invest Rs 480 crore in the Indian retail sector in two years.

The point really is that, quietly behind the scenes, a whole lot of collaborative work is going on, says Ms Jane Owen, Director, UK Trade and Investments, British High Commission, New Delhi.

For example, following a visit of the Hull and Humber Chamber to Chandigarh in March 2006, the British Agrifood Consortium signed a contract for technology transfer and marketing assistance with the Punjab Agro Industries Corporation. The assistance is worth £250,000. The Consortium provides recommendations and solutions for the agri-food business worldwide.

Following the agreement, Samskip of UK, a cola-chain logistics company, is in the process of setting up shop in India. Satnam Overseas of Amritsar (which owns the ‘kohinoor’ brand of rice) has set up a plant in the east of England, from where it exports to the rest of Europe.
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Islamic banks in UK likely to double in five years

http://www.banking-business-review.com/ ... 8DC1418993

(What is a sariah compliant bank? This kaffir would like to know.)
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They take your money and dont pay interest or they discount the loan by deductingthe interest protion before they give the loan. For example you borrow $1000. The interest at 10% would be $100. So they give you $900 and you pay back the $1000. Good na?
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typical fig leaf to cover what is essentially the same thing.
without profits have can a bank cover its operating cost and fund growth?

the diff in your example seems to be the bank gets all the interest in a
lumpsum upfront which is better for the bank than getting it later in
installments.
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first it was 'islamic charities' which were used to inject money covertly into the global economic system so that jehadis could receive funds anytime and anyplace they needed.
now after 9/11 since the 'islamic charity' channel is closely monitored and a few charities have been closed for their links to jehadis this new 'islamic banking' channel is being sought to be opened.
the aim remains the same. help the jehadis receive money without their cover being exposed.

PS: a paki newspaper had reported the links between the lal masjid cleric and some 'islamic banking' campaigner. will try to get the link.

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sorry cant find the link. this quote is from The Friday Times. had this saved on pc.
The Lal Masjid conference was graced by such panjandrums of Pakistan’s world of clerical extremism as Grand Mufti Rafi Usmani – brother of the internationally renowned Taqi Usmani advising the Arab states on Islamic banking – although the Constitution of Pakistan doesn’t mention the post of a grand mufti.

Resolutions were passed demanding death sentence for President Pervez Musharraf and the banning of ex-Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao and ex-Religion Minister Ijazul Haq from entering any seminary in Pakistan.
A paki whose brother teaches 'islamic banking' to arab states attends a conference were death threats are made against the country's president and former ministers. this whole business of 'islamic banking' is another way to cover the money trail.
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> typical fig leaf to cover what is essentially the same thing.
> without profits have can a bank cover its operating cost and fund growth?

by looting the infidels and/or forcing them to pay jizya.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Taqi_Usmani

what a bio....101% madrassa trained monkey onlee.

He continues to teach Sahih al-Bukhari in Darul Uloom Karachi, and is also known for his Islahi Khutbat (sermons educating Muslim to rectify themselves). He was a key member of a team of scholars that helped declare the Qadiani as non-Muslims by Pakistan's National Assembly during the era of former Pakistani president, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, in the 1970s. During the presidency of general Zia-ul-Haq, he was instrumental in making laws of Hudood, Qisas and Dayiat. He strongly opposes the women protection bill

Muhammad Taqi Usmani presently is a member of the following organizations:

* Islamic Fiqh Academy, Jeddah (Permanent member)
* Darul 'Uloom Karachi, Karachi (Vice President)
* Accounting and Auditing Organization of Islamic Financial Institutions, Bahrain. (Chairman of Shariah Standard Council)
* Bahrain Monetary Agency (now Central Bank of Bahrain), Bahrain (Chairman of Shariah Board)
* Amana Investments Limited, Sri Lanka. (Chairman of Shariah Board)
* Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank, UAE. (Chairman of Shariah Board)
* Guidance Financial Group, USA. (Member of SHARIA SUPERVISORY BOARD)
* Meezan Bank Ltd, Pakistan. (Chairman of Shariah Board)
* HSBC Amanah Finance, Dubai.
* BankIslami Pakistan Limited, Pakistan. (Chairman of Shariah Board)
* Jamiat ul-Ulama USA, USA
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from this own book:

http://www.darululoomkhi.edu.pk/fiqh/is ... tment.html

The term 'Islamic Investment Fund" in this chapter means a joint pool wherein the investors contribute their surplus money for the purpose of its investment to earn halal profits :rotfl: in strict conformity with the precepts of Islamic Shari‘ah.
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UK charity funds may have been used to fund 7/7 propaganda
London, Aug.20 (ANI): Funds collected by the BBC's Children in Need charity could have been used to recruit and train homegrown terrorists involved in the 7/7 terror attacks on London.

Children in Need's chief Executive David Ramsden was quoted as telling Newsnight: I'm incredibly concerned that we did make an award to Leeds Community School over nine years ago."

"Any allegation that any funding we've given to any project has been misused and not used to change the lives of disadvantaged children and young people makes me concerned and very sad.

"We take the trust that the public puts in BBC Children In Need and the fact that they provide us with their finding extremely seriously and I'm incredibly concerned.

The program reported that 20,000 pounds was handed over to the Leeds Community School in Beeston, Yorkshire between 1999 and 2002. The school was run from premises behind the Iqra Islamic bookshop, which the gang used as a meeting place and an opportunity to radicalise others.

Some of the cash could also have been used to fund the propaganda activities of the suicide bombers who killed 52 people in July 2005, according to an investigation by BBC 2's Newsnight.

Both Mohammed Sidique Khan, the leader of the bombers, and Shehzad Tanweer, the Aldgate bomber, were trustees of the bookshop and Sidique Khan also worked for a Saturday club at the associated Leeds Community School.

Both the bookshop and the school were registered charities - the bookshop claimed, on Charity Commission submissions, that its aim was "the advancement of the Islamic faith", while the school's aim was said to be to "advance the education...of Pakistani and Bangladeshi" pupils.


The Conservatives said that charities and other public bodies had to be careful that potential terrorists trying to raise money did not exploit them.
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It will be nice to take loans from Islamic banks if they really did not charge interest. :)

So a moslem is not supposed to charge interest to another moslem. But they are supposed to force non-moslems to pay "jazya". That sounds a bit bigoted to me.
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It will be nice to take loans from Islamic banks if they really did not charge interest
Their hidden interest rates are probably much higher than with a typical loan. It is a captive, financially uneducated, and gullible market.
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I wonder why no one is taking these islamic banks to court for discrimination on religious grouds?
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Do they discriminate ?
I think they would be happy to take the money of non-muslims willing to pay the higher interest rates of sharia banking.
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surely you mean the arrangement fees!??? :twisted:

it will be interesting to see if religious loyalty is higher than economic prudence in this time of credit esqveez!
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Terror suspects linked to threat against Brown
Saturday August 23 2008

Three men arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences have been linked to an investigation into threats to kill Gordon Brown, it emerged last night.

The suspects were detained on August 14 in a joint operation between Lancashire Police and the Greater Manchester police counter-terrorism unit.

Police confirmed that the arrests are linked to a posting on the al-Ekhlaas website in January calling for the deaths of Brown and his predecessor Tony Blair.

The group making the threats called itself "al-Qaeda in Britain" and demanded the withdrawal of British forces from Iraq and Afghanistan. It also demanded the release of Muslim inmates from the high-security Belmarsh prison.

Two of the suspects were arrested at Manchester airport as they were about to board a flight to Finland. The third was arrested in Accrington, Lancashire.

Counter-terrorist officers are in Scandinavia continuing their investigations amid fears that British groups are establishing terror links in Denmark.

Police have until Thursday to charge the men - aged 21, 22 and 23, and from Blackburn - release them, or seek an extension to their custody.

The internet statement was posted in Arabic and has since been translated.

It warns that if the group's demands are not met "then the Martyrdom seekers of the organisation of al-Qaeda in Britain will target all the political leaders especially Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, and we will also target all Embassies, Crusaders Centers and their Interests through out the country, with the help of Allah."
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Whatever the truth of the matter,it is unfortunate that cases like this will make it increasingly dififcult for the British Police forces and security establishment to get recruits from the minorities and immigrant communities,sorely needed to be able to better penetrate terrorist cells at home and abroad, along with better policing of sensitive areas resulting in communal harmony.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 12314.html
Britain's top Asian officer accuses Met chief of racism

By Cahal Milmo, Chief Reporter
Friday, 29 August 2008

Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur outlining his grievances at a press conference yesterday

Sir Ian Blair was facing a battle to survive as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police last night after Britain's most senior Asian officer publicly accused him of racial discrimination.

Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, the third most senior officer at Scotland Yard, said he would take the force to an employment tribunal in a case that would name Sir Ian and others. Mr Ghaffur claimed he was discriminated against "over a long period of time" and "victimised" by other Met commanders after his grievances were made public earlier this year.

His allegations of racial and religious discrimination will increase pressure on Sir Ian ahead of next month's inquest into the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes during a bungled anti-terror operation on the Tube. If the court rules that the innocent Brazilian was killed because of systemic failures within the Met, it would be widely seen as making Sir Ian's position untenable.

Yesterday, Mr Ghaffur, 53, made his first public comments about a row that has plunged the Met into its worst racism crisis since the Stephen Lawrence inquiry a decade ago. He pointed a finger of blame at Sir Ian and said he would present the tribunal with evidence gathered over eight years.

Mr Ghaffur, whose rift with Sir Ian emerged in June, said he blamed the commissioner for the decision to strip him of his role as security chief for the London 2012 Olympics. That job has now been passed to an official at the Home Office. Mr Ghaffur said: "My current case is essentially to do with my treatment at the highest levels of the Met, in particular the discrimination I have been subject to over a long period of time by the present Commissioner, Sir Ian Blair.

"It is to do with the continuation of that treatment into the very important job I was doing as co-ordinator of the security and safety of the 2012 Olympics. Finally, it is to do with the victimisation I have suffered since my grievances leaked to the media."

Flanked by lawyers, Mr Ghaffur said he was in "unfamiliar and uncomfortable territory" but denied he was bringing the claim for financial gain or out of disappointment at not being promoted. He is understood to be seeking damages and payment for lost earnings, as well as a personal apology from Sir Ian.

A father of two children, Mr Ghaffur won respect for his effort to overhaul the Yard's murder and serious crime unit. He names the Deputy Assistant Commissioner Richard Bryan and Len Duvall, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Authority, in his claim. Mr Ghaffur alleges Mr Bryan subjected him to racist treatment by pretending not to understand was he was saying.

Last night, the Met rejected Mr Ghaffur's claims and issued a statement saying it did not believe a tribunal was necessary. The Deputy Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, said: "I think it is long past the time that we shut up, stop making public statements about a private dispute and get on with the job we are being paid to do."
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Pakis giving birth to their new nation of Pakdesh in the Islamic Emirate of Brittania Major Island, Held Wales, Occupied Scotland and English-Administered-Ireland...

Preachers of separatism at work inside Britain's mosques
"This is not to tell you to start killing people," she continues. "There must be a Muslim leader, when the Muslim army becomes stronger, when Islam has grown enough."
Friendship with non-Muslims is discouraged because "loyalty is only to the Muslim, not to the kaffir [disbeliever]".
Many of the sisters had the idea of living as a separate community - a concept alien to me and many other Muslims I know.
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With the Italians actually paying compensation to Libya for colonial rule - where does it leave all the other shameless lot starting with the UK , France, Spain, Portugal and Dutch.
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India should take the lead in gathering all former colonies together and claiming financial damages
via the international court. there is no lack of evidence for the case and now a precedent has
been created.
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No need for international cases... the day of Londonistan is not far off at this rate, going by Gerard's article.

Another case in point:

A female radiologist , Muslim is hired by one of the biggest hospitals in the South. She is made aware that there are strict regulations of no clothing to be worn below the elbow. This is to prevent outbreaks and carrying of hospital superbugs like MRSA. Said person agrees to the terms. Now she is suing the hospital for "deliberate attack on Islam", "preventing her from following her religion" etc. etc. The case is starting to get sympathetic play now.

Then there were the cases of Muslim doctors not wanting to complete courses in their medical curriculum that dealt with sexual activity and contraception and alcoholism since this was haraam and against Islam. They still wanted to graduate though. Maybe I should have claimed Differential Calculus was against my religion in my engineering and see how far it would have got..

Another case was the case of lawyers who wanted to wear full face hizaab in courts.

Then there are schools that now only server halaal meat to the students and not regular meat since its too costly to serve both types due to their limited budget. Pleas by non Muslim parents that they dont want halaal are left unheeded.
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