If you have Times Now channel - watch it now. Arnab and guests are tearing into the goverment of India for not providing decent equipment to the police (visuals shown) and asking why army personnel should get an allowance of 24 eggs whiel they are the ones who goiive their lives!
Thank you Times Now
Than you Mayurica if you are reading this.
equal treatment to all
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run of mill jihadis dont go to major police stations looking to shoot senior officers in the head.
most would have cracked and fallen apart by now under constant pressure. only SF units are
trained like this to fight without support and conserve resources.
these girlie boys are the cream of the jihadi crop.
>> anyone saw the drive-by shoot out ? it was almost like the driver had done a combat driver's course. I smell SSG in this. sorry for the speculation.
driver was a policeman, he was driving the jeep at gunpoint.
pradeepe wrote:So far to my untrained eye, it sees to be a LeT-HuJI combine operation. ISI's sword arm pairs up with one of al Qaida's sword arm. The versace scum seems to be of BD origin.
I do not think he is of BD origin. I think he is a paki.
IMHO :Look at his hair.
Looks BD to me. But the ID will happen soon enough I guess.
Raju wrote:>> anyone saw the drive-by shoot out ? it was almost like the driver had done a combat driver's course. I smell SSG in this. sorry for the speculation.
driver was a policeman, he was driving the jeep at gunpoint.
source ?
singha ji, might be 'resigned' or 're-assigned' SSG.
Raju wrote:>> anyone saw the drive-by shoot out ? it was almost like the driver had done a combat driver's course. I smell SSG in this. sorry for the speculation.
driver was a policeman, he was driving the jeep at gunpoint.
source ?
singha ji, might be 'resigned' or 're-assigned' SSG.
Fox News -- American Rabbi held hostage at Chabad House.
JPost --
Indian commandos and police were evacuating civilians and cordoning off the area apparently in preparation to storm the Chabad House in Mumbai India, where a rabbi his wife and others were being held hostages, according IBN, an Indian news agency.
Newscasters were calling it the "final assault" on the Nariman House where Chabad headquarters are located adjacent to the Leopold Cafe, a major tourist center in Mumbai's Colaba area.
Now that Singha has mentioned it , there are scanners to image living things across obstacles.I think Israeli special forces are likely to have access to this stuff.Dont know whether it would work in mumbai s climate though.Well it will !
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27 people are being held hostage by terrorists in Trident hotel, latest news. In nariman house: Nothing much happening. Priority is Taj and Trident first according to NDTV. They are taking their time with Nariman house due to the number of civilians in the area. No more hostages inside Nariman house according to NDTV sources. This operation will take slightly longer.
Times Now reporting that a cellphone was recovered from near the Taj and it was getting calls from a Pakistan number. Police are not confirming this to the reporter but not denying it either.
Original built for military purposes and later used as supply vessel for oil rigs. AL KABIR has been furbished throughout for long term living oboard, deep sea diving and successful chartering. The vessel has been very well maintened and is in excellent condition.
According to a report by Reuters, the terrorists have expressed their desire to negotiate with the Indian government for the release of the hostages. The government, however, has repeatedly stated that it will not negotiate.
Times Now showing pictures (maybe live) of NSG commandos searching a room in the heritage room of the Taj. Search method & number of commandos per search party is clearly visible. Lights go out after the search has been completed.
A police vehicle hijacked by terrorists and abandoned near Vidhan Sabha Bhawan is checked by a bomb squad official on Thursday, November 27, 2008. Photo: Bhaskar Paul/India Today
Latest from Rediff, not good news seems like one of the pigs might have gotten away. Last line.
November 27, 2008 15:48 IST
Last Updated: November 27, 2008 20:31 IST
Ismail alias Zakiruallah, a Punjabi from Faridkot in Pakistan who was arrested by the Mumbai police on Wednesday night during the terror attacks, is giving interrogators the complete story of how the sensational terror operation was planned and executed.
He has told the Mumbai police that he has been trained by the Lashkar e Tayiba, said police sources while giving chilling details of the most daring terror attack in India that has so far killed 101 people -- and the horror story is not over, yet.
rediff.com, with help of political and governmental sources in New Delhi [Images] and Mumbai, including from intelligence, has pieced together the government's thinking on the matter.
First and foremost, Indian intelligence is more or less conceding that the shocking attacks in Mumbai represent a major success for the Lashkar.
Second, the operation is not solely directed against foreign nationals in Mumbai, as some reports have claimed. The large number of deaths of Mumbaikars suggests that they have fired indiscriminately, and revenge was on their mind.
The terrorist arrested by the Mumbai police is vehemently opposed to Isreal's action in the Middle-East and is upset about the "treatment" of Muslims in India in general According to sources, the ethnic, Punjabi-speaking Ismail has told the Mumbai police that the issue of "injustice" to Muslims in India by Hindus and the Indian establishment inspired him to pick up arms.
According to police sources, one Greek, one German couple, two American intelligence officials and a Frenchman are dead in the attacks, but it is not yet confirmed. When rediff.com contacted the American embassy, their response was: "No comments." They neither denied nor confirmed the report.
Intelligence sources also claimed to redif.com that it is likely that the Pakistani national terrorist wanted to remind Indians that their hotels can also face a similar fate as Hotel Marriott, Islamabad [Images]. In a terror attack in September, a suicide bomber rammed his truck into the Marriott, killing more than 60 people.
It is clear from the selection of the spots attacked that the terrorists wanted to show India in as bad a light as Pakistan. The entire show was to prove that India is facing no less of anarchy than its western neighbour. The Indian system is making its people feel as insecure as Pakistanis feel due to their weak systems, was the message the masterminds of the terror attack wanted to convey.
The high-level sources also say that Al Qaeda's [Images] ideology has been imbibed by innumerable small and regional outfits, but only the LeT can manage a Mumbai kind of operation, so there are more chances of the LeT's hand and brain being behind this operation.
As it has happened many times before, according to sources in the home ministry, in the third week of September India had received information from American sources that there could be a large-scale operation within India by the Lashkar e Tayiba. A source in the home ministry also claimed that the Research and Analysis Wing had passed on this information to the Intelligence Bureau and in turn they had sent this information to the Maharashtra police.
Again, some six days later, the information was circulated from New Delhi to Mumbai police that hotels in Mumbai will be targeted by the Lashkar. The police source claims that the name of Taj Mahal Hotel [Images] was specifically mentioned. Accordingly, the hotel's security had been increased but in two months time that have fallen into a routine, it seems.
Also, on the basis of vague information the local police has no time to build up the entire case of a possible terror act, says the same source. Since information like this is vague, the police now claims that it is very difficult to act upon it.
A senior officer of the ministry told rediff.com that one of the top Lashkar operatives, Yousuf Muzamil, has most probably directed the entire terror attack. The Lashkar has changed its name to Jamaat ud Dawa and is headed by Hafeez Mohammed Saeed and is headquartered in Muzaffarabad, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.
According to information collected by the police, on Wednesday evening, around 10 Pakistanis came by speed boats to the coast near Colaba in South Mumbai from Karachi. From fishing trawls they shifted to dinghies to reach Mumbai, and the transfer took place somewhere near Gujarat. Alert and smart fisherfolk could notice that some unknown characters in casual clothes had alighted. They were surprised to see unknown faces and the unusually large bags they were carrying.
Immediately they drew the attention of the local policemen from the nearby police post at Budhwar Park, Colaba. Within two hours of the fishermen's complaint to the police the terrorists had struck at Taj Mahal Hotel and at Trident hotel, Nariman House owned by Jews, and in Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus [Images] and a few other places. It was a meticulous and well-planned operation which has given the perpetrators of the horrific act a tremendous boost.
While in Trident hotel between four and seven terrorists were involved, while in Taj Mahal hotel three to four terrorists created havoc. According to Ismail, there no Arabs in their group.
The Mumbai police has got information that some six-seven days back terrorists had made a dry run also. This act leads to them believe that some local people could be involved in the terror attack, too.
At this point in time the police believes that at least one terrorists has managed to escape.
The rescue operation at Nariman House will be little tough due to the narrow lanes and the very layout of the houses. The best thing will be to launch an attack by using night goggles and use stun grenades to disable the killers. We have to arrest them and parade them before everyone, so that the world see their real faces.
Rohit Chandavarkar - live on CNN - reporting that there is still gun fire and explosion at both the hotels. That NSG is going floor to floor to sanitize them and let the guests out - as he stated the guests "come out in lots".
List of policemen dead:
In the situation that is fast slipping out of Mumbai Police's control, the official figures of fatalities among the Mumbai Police are as follows.
Jt CP Hemant Karkare
Police Inspector Vijay Salaskar
Additonal CP Ashok Kamte
Police Sub Insdpector Prakash More
Police Constable Chite
Police Constable Khandekar
Police Inspector Shashank Sinde Railway
Police Sub Inspector Durgude ATS
Assnt SI Nanasaheb Bhosale
Poliece Constable Jaywant Patil
Police Constable Yogesh Patil
Police Constable Ambadas Ramchandra Pawar
Police Constable MC Chaudhary Total dead: Official count at 9:30 am - 101 (14 policemen, 81 public, 6 foreign nationals)
Total injured: 287 (25 police, 255 public, 7 foreign nationals)
13 senior officers of the Mumbai Police were offering their services to combat the riotous situation. Of these, seven IPS officers have reportedly been grievously injured.
shyamd wrote:senior army official says that the intercepted message between the Chabad house and terrorists in the Taj, say throw grenades towards large crowds of police/army etc. They were communicating in Punjabi.
Precisely, this bears the hallmark of a military operation.
Asad Durrani claims that if the attacks were masterminded in Pakistan then Pakistan has shot itself in the foot. But he perhaps reckons without our politicians (whether BJP or Congress) who rarely go past saying 'we will give a fitting reply'.
bart wrote:Asad Durrani claims that if the attacks were masterminded in Pakistan then Pakistan has shot itself in the foot. But he perhaps reckons without our politicians (whether BJP or Congress) who rarely go past saying 'we will give a fitting reply'.
. Indian politicians are averse to change. Yes we can't.
Heights of WKKness from Burkha dutt.. After listening to Gen Hooda say that intercepts show the terrorists speaking in Punjabi of the Paki kind, she goes on to justify that just because they're from Pakiland doesn't mean it has the backing of the govt of bakistan.
I mean, when its staring at you in the face and yet you decide to say that I don't see it, well I don't have words to describe it. She even says, well the foreign minister of porkistan even said 'hey. lets setup a hotline' and that apparently shows that dorkette that they're all well meaning and bhai-bhai as 'victims of terror'.
. Indian politicians are averse to change. Yes we can't.