One rumour is that Sony head from Japan is one of the victims. Lot of bigwig vicims names are withheldajayv wrote:hi all. Have been an avid reader of the site for the last 6 years. Finally decided to become a poster now. my heart felt condolonces to all the civlians and brave Police and NSG officers and personnel who made the supreme sacrifice for the safety of mother India and her citizens. A few hours back i got to know of my close friends business partner who was evacuated from the oberoi seriously injured with 2 bullet wounds. He had pretended to be dead for over 40 hours untill he was rescued. His condition is now stable and he's given a chilling account of what happened at Kandahar (indian restaurant) at the Oberoi. While dinig with his 2 best friends they suddenly heard gun shots in the vicinity. while they instinctively ducked for cover the terrorists sprayed bullets all over and killed most of the people. The surviors wer asked to stand up with their arms in the air. Then along with some foreigners were then taken upstairs and asked to stand in a line. All of them except for a few foreigner were shot at in cold blood. Cant even imgaine what the man went thro seeing his best friends murdered in cold blood. Bloody animals.
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The planning was one year ago.The mastermind is clearly Musharrat,whose handpicked successor carried out his masterplan.I warned that Kiyani had the eyes of a vulture,Musharrat the whiskers of a Bandicoot and Zia ,who had the eys of a snake.The vulture as they say is a aptient bird.Gen,Kill-any has ordered the first shots of the next war.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... istan.html
Mumbai attacks: Investigation focuses on Pakistan
Following the atrocity in Bombay, the focus is now on the area fuelling the Islamist jihad.
By Isambard Wilkinson in Peshawar
Last Updated: 8:47PM GMT 28 Nov 2008
Have weapons, will travel: Taliban fighters gather for the funeral of a comrade in Pakistan in April Photo: AFP
As the body count rises, and the full horror is revealed in the accounts of traumatised survivors and the photographs of the dead strewn around Bombay's (Mumbai's) tourist venues, the investigation into the atrocity is at full pelt.
Already a disturbing theme is emerging: that two of the world's most bitter and intractable conflicts, in Afghanistan and Kashmir, could be merging into one.
According to Indian authorities, the trail of the gunmen who ran riot in the streets and hotels leads back to the wild terrain of Pakistan's tribal border areas, from where groups linked to al-Qaeda plot a global jihad.
The connection is strengthened by the fact that the terrorists singled out British and American citizens as victims for their slaughter, and by reports that the attackers included "British citizens of Pakistani origin", most probably trained in the tribal areas.
But other significant factors are in play, too. In their propaganda, the terrorists named the territorial dispute over Kashmir – for which Pakistan and India have twice gone to war – as a cause of their actions, along with grievances over the treatment of India's Muslims by the Hindu majority.
This juxtaposition of causes is no surprise to observers of the region. India and Pakistan have long used factions within Afghanistan as proxies in their long dispute over Kashmir.
Earlier this year, US intelligence officials accused the higher echelons of the Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence organisation (ISI) of using jihadis to orchestrate a bloody terrorist attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul.
Pakistan, in turn, is suspicious of India's growing influence in Afghanistan, accusing its old foe of supplying arms and money to the Taliban, and to separatists within Pakistan itself.
There is a vicious irony here. It was Pakistan that first sponsored the Taliban, along with other terrorist groups, operating in Indian-held Kashmir. Yet now it finds itself endangered by the very groups it once supported.
Pakistan's tribal areas have become a nexus for arms and money, a playground for the world's intelligence agencies and for the jihadist groups they both combat and sponsor.
America, in particular, is fighting what is essentially an undeclared war here, one which will only increase in intensity as its attention shifts from Iraq under incoming president Barack Obama.
The tribal area, once cherished by British colonial administrators for its "fiercely independent" Pathan tribesmen, is a series of endless mountainous ramparts cut by hidden valleys and plateaus.
High, fortress-like, mud-walled compounds dot valleys that vary from arid to oases of fruit trees and fields.
Their inhabitants are often engaged in centuries-old feuds, and subsist on trade, smuggling, kidnapping and extracting the maximum price from ever-shifting political allegiances.
Yesterday, near the town of Jamrud, pick-up trucks with white Islamic pendants fluttering on their bonnets ferried posses of long-haired, heavily armed militants, along the main artery of the Khyber Pass.
They belonged to a faction of Islamic warriors fighting against the dominant Taliban chief of the area, Baitullah Mehsud.
"They are with us. At least for now," said Tariq Hayat, the Pakistani government's representative for the Khyber area. He is a civil servant with nominally god-like powers, whose bodyguards are armed with rocket launchers.
He was there to inspect pickets he had set up to protect convoys transporting supplies to coalition forces in Afghanistan, after 12 lorries, whose cargo included four Humvees, were hijacked this month.
In the areas they control, the militants, who began their campaigns under the guise of "social reform", have enforced a regime of fear, beheading suspected informers, stoning women and committing acts of brutality against Pakistani security forces.
On a recent visit, militants attacked as journalists were being shown the compounds captured by the Pakistani army. Cobra helicopters had to lash down heavy rounds to keep them at bay.
Mr Hayat claims that most militants are "criminals", funded by India. He cites intelligence photographs he says he saw in 2005 of an Afghan leaving an Indian consulate with a large bag. Another photograph showed the man handing the same bag to Baitullah Mehsud. Conspiracy theories rule on the frontier.
The resulting chaos is not just a problem for Pakistan. "The tribal areas are an ungoverned space that make Pakistan a threat to global security," says a senior Western military intelligence official in Islamabad.
As a result, America is taking matters into its own hands. A week ago, a British al-Qaeda suspect, Rashid Rauf, was reportedly killed alongside three others in a US missile strike in North Waziristan where he sought refuge after escaping from custody.
There have been at least 20 such US missile strikes in the last three months, reflecting American impatience over militants from Pakistan fuelling the insurgency in Afghanistan.
The CIA has monitoring stations within the Pakistani tribal areas and along the eastern Afghan border, and a large network of tribal informers.
Last month the first missile strike outside of the tribal areas occurred in Bannu district, while this week tribesmen in North and South Waziristan were reported to have fired on Predator drones hovering above.
On a recent visit to Pakistan, the US central command chief, Gen David Petraeus, explained away the missile strikes, claiming that America is doing Pakistan a favour.
His words were backed by General James Conway, the head of the Marine Corps, who told the Wall Street Journal this week; "Iraq is now a rearguard action on the part of al-Qaeda. They have changed their strategic focus not to Afghanistan but to Pakistan, because Pakistan is the closest place where you have the nexus of terrorism and nuclear weapons."
Officials say that there is a tacit understanding between the US and Pakistani militaries to allow the missile strikes. But the protests from the Pakistan People's Party, which won the recent election, are growing ever louder.
The PPP fears not just a backlash within the tribal area, but losing its hold on power in the country as a whole: most Pakistanis are broadly anti-American, and strongly opposed to violations of their sovereignty.
A map published by a Right-wing American journal recently, which depicted the region broken down into smaller ethnic states, led to widespread claims that the US wants to break Pakistan apart.
This sense of national insecurity has been heightened by a spate of kidnappings and assassinations, particularly in Peshawar, capital of the North-West Frontier province.
Two weeks ago, a senior American aid worker was shot dead along with his driver. The next day, militants kidnapped a junior Iranian diplomat after killing his police escort.
A botched American commando raid in September in South Waziristan also inflamed public opinion against Washington, and set back the government's efforts to galvanise what President Asif Zardari has tried to sell as "Pakistan's war".
The Pakistani army says that it also fears that US missile attacks will draw it into too many battles, in notoriously difficult terrain.
One Taliban commander said last week that, if there are more missile strikes, he will pull out of a peace deal with Pakistan's military that has held since 2006. "Pakistan is directly involved in aiding America to carry out these attacks," said a spokesman for Hafiz Gul Bahadur.
Despite its eagerness to keep such figures onside, Pakistan is stepping up its efforts in other areas.
Under new army chief, Ashfaq Kiyani, its forces are engaged in fierce fighting against militants in the tribal areas of Bajaur and Mohmand and the neighbouring district of Swat.
When General Kiyani was head of the ISI a year ago, he briefed foreign ambassadors on his attempts to clamp down on the rogue agents who had supported terrorists and jihadis in the past.
But, according to American and British officials, the massacre in Bombay (Mumbai) represents a devastating setback, both to Pakistani/Indian relations and to the wider war on terror.
Barack Obama had hoped to persuaded Pakistan to concentrate its gaze to the west, on Afghanistan, rather than east, on Kashmir. Instead, he may find that he – and his allies – are waging a war on two fronts.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... istan.html
Mumbai attacks: Investigation focuses on Pakistan
Following the atrocity in Bombay, the focus is now on the area fuelling the Islamist jihad.
By Isambard Wilkinson in Peshawar
Last Updated: 8:47PM GMT 28 Nov 2008
Have weapons, will travel: Taliban fighters gather for the funeral of a comrade in Pakistan in April Photo: AFP
As the body count rises, and the full horror is revealed in the accounts of traumatised survivors and the photographs of the dead strewn around Bombay's (Mumbai's) tourist venues, the investigation into the atrocity is at full pelt.
Already a disturbing theme is emerging: that two of the world's most bitter and intractable conflicts, in Afghanistan and Kashmir, could be merging into one.
According to Indian authorities, the trail of the gunmen who ran riot in the streets and hotels leads back to the wild terrain of Pakistan's tribal border areas, from where groups linked to al-Qaeda plot a global jihad.
The connection is strengthened by the fact that the terrorists singled out British and American citizens as victims for their slaughter, and by reports that the attackers included "British citizens of Pakistani origin", most probably trained in the tribal areas.
But other significant factors are in play, too. In their propaganda, the terrorists named the territorial dispute over Kashmir – for which Pakistan and India have twice gone to war – as a cause of their actions, along with grievances over the treatment of India's Muslims by the Hindu majority.
This juxtaposition of causes is no surprise to observers of the region. India and Pakistan have long used factions within Afghanistan as proxies in their long dispute over Kashmir.
Earlier this year, US intelligence officials accused the higher echelons of the Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence organisation (ISI) of using jihadis to orchestrate a bloody terrorist attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul.
Pakistan, in turn, is suspicious of India's growing influence in Afghanistan, accusing its old foe of supplying arms and money to the Taliban, and to separatists within Pakistan itself.
There is a vicious irony here. It was Pakistan that first sponsored the Taliban, along with other terrorist groups, operating in Indian-held Kashmir. Yet now it finds itself endangered by the very groups it once supported.
Pakistan's tribal areas have become a nexus for arms and money, a playground for the world's intelligence agencies and for the jihadist groups they both combat and sponsor.
America, in particular, is fighting what is essentially an undeclared war here, one which will only increase in intensity as its attention shifts from Iraq under incoming president Barack Obama.
The tribal area, once cherished by British colonial administrators for its "fiercely independent" Pathan tribesmen, is a series of endless mountainous ramparts cut by hidden valleys and plateaus.
High, fortress-like, mud-walled compounds dot valleys that vary from arid to oases of fruit trees and fields.
Their inhabitants are often engaged in centuries-old feuds, and subsist on trade, smuggling, kidnapping and extracting the maximum price from ever-shifting political allegiances.
Yesterday, near the town of Jamrud, pick-up trucks with white Islamic pendants fluttering on their bonnets ferried posses of long-haired, heavily armed militants, along the main artery of the Khyber Pass.
They belonged to a faction of Islamic warriors fighting against the dominant Taliban chief of the area, Baitullah Mehsud.
"They are with us. At least for now," said Tariq Hayat, the Pakistani government's representative for the Khyber area. He is a civil servant with nominally god-like powers, whose bodyguards are armed with rocket launchers.
He was there to inspect pickets he had set up to protect convoys transporting supplies to coalition forces in Afghanistan, after 12 lorries, whose cargo included four Humvees, were hijacked this month.
In the areas they control, the militants, who began their campaigns under the guise of "social reform", have enforced a regime of fear, beheading suspected informers, stoning women and committing acts of brutality against Pakistani security forces.
On a recent visit, militants attacked as journalists were being shown the compounds captured by the Pakistani army. Cobra helicopters had to lash down heavy rounds to keep them at bay.
Mr Hayat claims that most militants are "criminals", funded by India. He cites intelligence photographs he says he saw in 2005 of an Afghan leaving an Indian consulate with a large bag. Another photograph showed the man handing the same bag to Baitullah Mehsud. Conspiracy theories rule on the frontier.
The resulting chaos is not just a problem for Pakistan. "The tribal areas are an ungoverned space that make Pakistan a threat to global security," says a senior Western military intelligence official in Islamabad.
As a result, America is taking matters into its own hands. A week ago, a British al-Qaeda suspect, Rashid Rauf, was reportedly killed alongside three others in a US missile strike in North Waziristan where he sought refuge after escaping from custody.
There have been at least 20 such US missile strikes in the last three months, reflecting American impatience over militants from Pakistan fuelling the insurgency in Afghanistan.
The CIA has monitoring stations within the Pakistani tribal areas and along the eastern Afghan border, and a large network of tribal informers.
Last month the first missile strike outside of the tribal areas occurred in Bannu district, while this week tribesmen in North and South Waziristan were reported to have fired on Predator drones hovering above.
On a recent visit to Pakistan, the US central command chief, Gen David Petraeus, explained away the missile strikes, claiming that America is doing Pakistan a favour.
His words were backed by General James Conway, the head of the Marine Corps, who told the Wall Street Journal this week; "Iraq is now a rearguard action on the part of al-Qaeda. They have changed their strategic focus not to Afghanistan but to Pakistan, because Pakistan is the closest place where you have the nexus of terrorism and nuclear weapons."
Officials say that there is a tacit understanding between the US and Pakistani militaries to allow the missile strikes. But the protests from the Pakistan People's Party, which won the recent election, are growing ever louder.
The PPP fears not just a backlash within the tribal area, but losing its hold on power in the country as a whole: most Pakistanis are broadly anti-American, and strongly opposed to violations of their sovereignty.
A map published by a Right-wing American journal recently, which depicted the region broken down into smaller ethnic states, led to widespread claims that the US wants to break Pakistan apart.
This sense of national insecurity has been heightened by a spate of kidnappings and assassinations, particularly in Peshawar, capital of the North-West Frontier province.
Two weeks ago, a senior American aid worker was shot dead along with his driver. The next day, militants kidnapped a junior Iranian diplomat after killing his police escort.
A botched American commando raid in September in South Waziristan also inflamed public opinion against Washington, and set back the government's efforts to galvanise what President Asif Zardari has tried to sell as "Pakistan's war".
The Pakistani army says that it also fears that US missile attacks will draw it into too many battles, in notoriously difficult terrain.
One Taliban commander said last week that, if there are more missile strikes, he will pull out of a peace deal with Pakistan's military that has held since 2006. "Pakistan is directly involved in aiding America to carry out these attacks," said a spokesman for Hafiz Gul Bahadur.
Despite its eagerness to keep such figures onside, Pakistan is stepping up its efforts in other areas.
Under new army chief, Ashfaq Kiyani, its forces are engaged in fierce fighting against militants in the tribal areas of Bajaur and Mohmand and the neighbouring district of Swat.
When General Kiyani was head of the ISI a year ago, he briefed foreign ambassadors on his attempts to clamp down on the rogue agents who had supported terrorists and jihadis in the past.
But, according to American and British officials, the massacre in Bombay (Mumbai) represents a devastating setback, both to Pakistani/Indian relations and to the wider war on terror.
Barack Obama had hoped to persuaded Pakistan to concentrate its gaze to the west, on Afghanistan, rather than east, on Kashmir. Instead, he may find that he – and his allies – are waging a war on two fronts.
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Sabina Shiak , ToI journalist is among dead.
May her soul RIP
May her soul RIP
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There was earlier a report of a Goan Chef who called his family in Goa to say that he was safe along with another colleague and some guests. Apparently, he later called in to cry out to his father and brother and all became still after that. His body has been found. I am unable to get the link. IIRC, his name was Kevin or something like that ? His father had been a long-time Taj employee and continued to be a consultant at Goa.Rahul M wrote:I heard it on a bengali channel but didn't post as it was (yet) un-confirmed.Sridhar/Rahul, as eyewitness who was escaped (Malini something) was on BBC this morning via phone and mentioned that one chef fired and killed the other chef. I'm sure the completely story on this pig will come out.
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Weren't all Muslims allowed to get away(as per Turkish couple who were let free)?milindc wrote:Sabina Shiak , ToI journalist is among dead.
May her soul RIP
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She is an Indian Muslim, that's why they killed her.
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Philip, may I request you to put the article quoted within quotes ? That makes it easy to read. Thanks.
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all combine to make a pig.I warned that Kiyani had the eyes of a vulture,Musharrat the whiskers of a Bandicoot and Zia ,who had the eys of a snake.The vulture as they say is a aptient bird.
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Sabina was not muslim. Her full name - Sabina Sehgal Saikia. Saikia is an assamese hindu surname.
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She is not a Muslim. Per SRoy who posted earlier she is Sikh married to a Hindu.sum wrote:Weren't all Muslims allowed to get away(as per Turkish couple who were let free)?milindc wrote:Sabina Shiak , ToI journalist is among dead.
May her soul RIP
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These guys knew where israeli nationals stayed, These guys knew there were Senior US intelligence personnel staying at the Taj. The latter info has to be very recent.
All this points to the work of an Intel Agency - no abdul can gather info like this. The ISI prepared the ground work, laid down the ground rules, Clearly knew what their aim was with this attack - On the financial nerve center of India, and chose its operatives carefully.
These people were already LET or HM members who knew how to fire the AK series and lob grenades, They were selected for being the most motivated and specially trained for action of this sort. Urban terrorism and attack by the sea on a foreign nation's shores.
There were already sleeper cells with base camps in the two hotels to liason, provide ammo top ups and food.
It is very possible that these people really thought that they could indulge in a hit and run type of attack and escape after discarding all weapons as they were well dressed and were hoping to pass off as well off tourist brats.
What I fear is that Western Naval command's largest Naval Base is a stone's throw away from the Taj, They could have reached close enough to all the vulnerable naval hardware stationed there. I am sure that security was tight enough at the Base, but it will have to be updated to deter a determined attack by a dozen or two such fidayeen. The Navy's assets - the high tech electronics that are visible on the ships is very very vulnerable.
BARC is not far off either. There is a news report somewhere that one of the terrorists who arrived a few months earlier for a recce for this attack, stayed somewhere close to where BARC is. This is terrifying news to say the least.
We have to understand that Pakistan's only weapon capable of reaching India now is these Terrorists. Their Nuclear weapons are a joke more likely, Their conventional military will be taken out very rapidly - in an all out war, except for a few missile that may reach some major cities, they don't have the ability to hurt India more than a hundred kilometers or so from the international borders.
Terror is the only long range weapon they have with the ability to strike anywhere in india - fear is what they hope to create. This is WAR indeed...
The only upping the ante from here on is a JDAM type attack on a major city.
All this points to the work of an Intel Agency - no abdul can gather info like this. The ISI prepared the ground work, laid down the ground rules, Clearly knew what their aim was with this attack - On the financial nerve center of India, and chose its operatives carefully.
These people were already LET or HM members who knew how to fire the AK series and lob grenades, They were selected for being the most motivated and specially trained for action of this sort. Urban terrorism and attack by the sea on a foreign nation's shores.
There were already sleeper cells with base camps in the two hotels to liason, provide ammo top ups and food.
It is very possible that these people really thought that they could indulge in a hit and run type of attack and escape after discarding all weapons as they were well dressed and were hoping to pass off as well off tourist brats.
What I fear is that Western Naval command's largest Naval Base is a stone's throw away from the Taj, They could have reached close enough to all the vulnerable naval hardware stationed there. I am sure that security was tight enough at the Base, but it will have to be updated to deter a determined attack by a dozen or two such fidayeen. The Navy's assets - the high tech electronics that are visible on the ships is very very vulnerable.
BARC is not far off either. There is a news report somewhere that one of the terrorists who arrived a few months earlier for a recce for this attack, stayed somewhere close to where BARC is. This is terrifying news to say the least.
We have to understand that Pakistan's only weapon capable of reaching India now is these Terrorists. Their Nuclear weapons are a joke more likely, Their conventional military will be taken out very rapidly - in an all out war, except for a few missile that may reach some major cities, they don't have the ability to hurt India more than a hundred kilometers or so from the international borders.
Terror is the only long range weapon they have with the ability to strike anywhere in india - fear is what they hope to create. This is WAR indeed...
The only upping the ante from here on is a JDAM type attack on a major city.
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False informationThis juxtaposition of causes is no surprise to observers of the region. India and Pakistan have long used factions within Afghanistan as proxies in their long dispute over Kashmir.
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I think indiscriminate firing and room by room combing ops does not care if you are a Muslim or not, especially when you have the same skin color as an Indian. If you are white you could be either Turkish/Eastern European Muslim or a hostage, so they ask for passport.sum wrote:Weren't all Muslims allowed to get away(as per Turkish couple who were let free)?milindc wrote:Sabina Shiak , ToI journalist is among dead.
May her soul RIP
If you have Chinese/Indian features you are dead because of indiscriminate firing.
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There were more than 30 muslims in the first list of the dead and the injured that came out. Please let's not make this an Indian Hindus vs Indian Muslims issue. That's what the porkies want.sum wrote:Weren't all Muslims allowed to get away(as per Turkish couple who were let free)?milindc wrote:Sabina Shiak , ToI journalist is among dead.
May her soul RIP
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dunno if she is muslim or not but she is married to print media journalist shantanu shaikia.milindc wrote:She is not a Muslim. Per SRoy who posted earlier she is Sikh married to a Hindu.
survived by two children !
RIP ma'm.
trivedi, I agree.
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pakistanis want to attack india's symbols of successtrivedi wrote:
I'd say places like TGB off S.G. road and MM around C.G. road are places to watch. They could also go after Akshardham again. Are there any new places the cool kids are hanging at these days?
- bombay stock market (done)
- air india building (done)
- indian luxury hotels (done)
- ISRO complexes (must be on their immediate next to do list)
- DRDO complexes (must be on their immediate next to do list)
- Movie industry (I think this is the next one coming)
remember - wahabi's don't like singing and dancing
remember - acid attack on afghan school girls
- Indian Fashion Industry (next in priority)
- Indian shopping complexes (next down in priority)
- indian infrastructures (bridges, monuments, factories)
- Indian refineries
- Indian Industries
- Indian Universities (IISC done, IITs better watch out for fake students)
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Headlines Today reporting about 2006 Intel letter stating that ISI is training Lashkar to use sea route for terrorist attack. Almost eerily similar to latest Mumbai attack.
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01:57 PM: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [Images] holds meeting with top brass of defence services and intelligence chiefs to discuss Mumbai attacks
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It does not matter whether she was Hindu or Muslim. She was an Indian. It is all that matters. Rest in peace sister.suvod wrote:Sabina was not muslim. Her full name - Sabina Sehgal Saikia. Saikia is an assamese hindu surname.
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I agree, let's not get into specifics here. India is united and I am damn glad it is. Now is the chance for us to Strike and Strike hard. The world is behind us.Dilbu wrote:It does not matter whether she was Hindu or Muslim. She was an Indian. It is all that matters. Rest in peace sister.suvod wrote:Sabina was not muslim. Her full name - Sabina Sehgal Saikia. Saikia is an assamese hindu surname.
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CNN-IBN saying that one of the pigs was from Yemen. They used Blackberrys, and were heavily drugged. Also that Dawood may be involved. All from ATS sources.
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That was never my intention,sir...trivedi wrote:There were more than 30 muslims in the first list of the dead and the injured that came out. Please let's not make this an Indian Hindus vs Indian Muslims issue. That's what the porkies want.sum wrote: Weren't all Muslims allowed to get away(as per Turkish couple who were let free)?
Anyways, how is it that the US can take the death of two senior CIA/NSA/xxx guys so casually? Wont they be gunning with the Indian agencies to have a go at the Pakis instead of the usual "sit and talk with pak" line?
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We need someone in authority + good press body language ability to make sure that the evidence is given prime time air. We also need all our ambassadors etc. to be going on air and hammering it. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET Pakistan get away with this "we are victims too" bull. This will be the biggest failure of congress if that happens.
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Major Vikram BarkadattaHiten wrote:Does anybody know the name and designation of the NSG officer who was shown to be standing with the DG of NSG while he was addressing the press outside the Taj?
Address: 273 Singhania lane
Near Vasanth talkies
Lucknow 23
Cell No 9**** *****
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Sorree onlee.shiv wrote:Major Vikram BarkadattaHiten wrote:Does anybody know the name and designation of the NSG officer who was shown to be standing with the DG of NSG while he was addressing the press outside the Taj?
Address: 273 Singhania lane
Near Vasanth talkies
Lucknow 23
Cell No 9**** *****
added later - the forum software is not accepting cell numbers. Must be blocked.
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^^^^ Ha ha Shiv-saar, i was about to report the post, as I got upset with the details, then i saw it was you....
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Ban shiv-ji for letting in secret information on a public phorum
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The people who refer to anti-terrorist operations as being anti-muslim are obviously out to divide India.
One such agency, is of course, just across the border, which finds the existence of the Indian muslim living in peace with his Hindu broither impossible to stomach, and an affront to its cherished "two nation theory". They are quick to sieze on this, and attempt to divide India through use of devices like the fraud "Deccan Mujehddin", and the real SIMI.
The other alas, is our own polity, and the brigade of pseudo secular malcontents to whom anarchy is the best thing, and hatred of authority is a way of life.
The one are our enemy without. The other are are our enemy within.
To pretend that any attack on a muslim terrorist should be foregone because it is an assault on all Indian Muslims is as incomprehensible as saying any arrest of a Hindu murderer should be wrong because it is an assault on all Hindus.
It is the duty of the Government of India to keep a close eye on all such subversives. It is the duty of our external inteligence agencies to keep tabs all external aggression. It is the duty of the IB and police to keep tabs on internal subvsersion. And it is the duty of the Indian political class and Media not to exercise their agendas at the cost of this nation, so hard fought for, and so cherished by us all.
One such agency, is of course, just across the border, which finds the existence of the Indian muslim living in peace with his Hindu broither impossible to stomach, and an affront to its cherished "two nation theory". They are quick to sieze on this, and attempt to divide India through use of devices like the fraud "Deccan Mujehddin", and the real SIMI.
The other alas, is our own polity, and the brigade of pseudo secular malcontents to whom anarchy is the best thing, and hatred of authority is a way of life.
The one are our enemy without. The other are are our enemy within.
To pretend that any attack on a muslim terrorist should be foregone because it is an assault on all Indian Muslims is as incomprehensible as saying any arrest of a Hindu murderer should be wrong because it is an assault on all Hindus.
It is the duty of the Government of India to keep a close eye on all such subversives. It is the duty of our external inteligence agencies to keep tabs all external aggression. It is the duty of the IB and police to keep tabs on internal subvsersion. And it is the duty of the Indian political class and Media not to exercise their agendas at the cost of this nation, so hard fought for, and so cherished by us all.
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Sorry saar i reported your post... then saw barkadatta... LOL anyways!shiv wrote:Major Vikram BarkadattaHiten wrote:Does anybody know the name and designation of the NSG officer who was shown to be standing with the DG of NSG while he was addressing the press outside the Taj?
Address: 273 Singhania lane
Near Vasanth talkies
Lucknow 23
Cell No 9**** *****
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Headline Today showing face of Paki FM as he received the phone call from Mukheejee... The idiot was doing Aadab and blabbering some pleasantries.
He went pale and kept saying yes...
Definitely a keep
Also, Gaurav Sawant from Headline Today openly states that inviting ISI chief would be like calling a Murderer to examine evidence against him...
some DDM have had definitely some testosterone shots
He went pale and kept saying yes...
Definitely a keep
Also, Gaurav Sawant from Headline Today openly states that inviting ISI chief would be like calling a Murderer to examine evidence against him...
some DDM have had definitely some testosterone shots
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Who is the babette on Times Now going on breathlessly on the Taj destruction ?
I get only audio from desitv. Why cannot she control breathing ? Annoyingly she keeps drawing heavy breath in the commentary.
I get only audio from desitv. Why cannot she control breathing ? Annoyingly she keeps drawing heavy breath in the commentary.
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The present POTUS is lame duck. without any nod from him no overt or covert action will take place,sum wrote:
Anyways, how is it that the US can take the death of two senior CIA/NSA/xxx guys so casually? Wont they be gunning with the Indian agencies to have a go at the Pakis instead of the usual "sit and talk with pak" line?
till then they will play dumb and hope this does not hit the fan.
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I can give you the Google Earth cooridinates too if you want - but forum software is not allowing the most sensitive info to be revealedlakshmikanth wrote:
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Sorry saar i reported your post... then saw barkadatta... LOL anyways!
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report on shiv ji's post !
I'm thinking of allowing myself an emoticon !Security risk to the officer... with ALL The details in public domain.. If this info is not already available in pub. domain.. this should be removed.
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Should be either Deepti Menon or Mehroon-or-something-like-thatNayak wrote:Who is the babette on Times Now going on breathlessly on the Taj destruction ?
I get only audio from desitv. Why cannot she control breathing ? Annoyingly she keeps drawing heavy breath in the commentary.
We need to create a duty-cycle indicator for such reporters; High ratio of ooooh-ahhhhh babble rambling with actual meaning full speech means high duty-cycle. Deepti Menon has a duty cycle approximately = 1
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Sorry saar ... did not know i was walking into a trap.Rahul M wrote:report on shiv ji's post !I'm thinking of allowing myself an emoticon !Security risk to the officer... with ALL The details in public domain.. If this info is not already available in pub. domain.. this should be removed.
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Mehroon, I mis-heard it as Mahroof Raza and was waiting for a long time for his brilliant post-analyses, then I got annoyed with this babe's commentary.
This is the backside of the taj, <draw a heavy breadth>, nsg operations results <draw a heavy breadth>
Finally she signs off.
This is the backside of the taj, <draw a heavy breadth>, nsg operations results <draw a heavy breadth>
Finally she signs off.
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And sir, your point is...Its an attack on India : Pranab
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Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.
Conflicting accounts......
Conflicting accounts......
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Cabinet compiling a status report on ISI-terrorist link: Times Now