Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Jul 2009 13:36

"Lashkar-e-Taiba tactics is quite obvious. It is trying to increase tensions between India and Pakistan at a time when they and their associates are particularly under pressure in western Pakistan," said Richard Barrett, Coordinator of the UN Security Council's al-Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Monitoring Committee.

"They may do that again," Mr. Barrett said, adding that this is the real risk. Mr. Barrett along with Chairman of the Security Council's al-Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Committee, Thomas Mayr-Harting, the Austrian Ambassador, addressed a joint press conference at the UN headquarters in New York.

Folks, the Indian Home Ministry's warning and the UN official's anticipation of another terror strike by the LeT show the next strike is imminent. It could be a Southern city, one that has escaped so far.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 15 Jul 2009 13:44

It could well be cochin or trivandrum.
Cochin is where the Viraat is currently. The LET was looking at bases in the lakshadweep islands as a launching pad.

And it could also be in Gujarat.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 15 Jul 2009 14:08

Vizag, anyone? Bu the information seems very specific. Usually GOI babu's don't do much about these alerts and warnings. Maybe the warnings are a diversion for an attack planned elsewhere? Also how are bases and stuff in Andamans guarded against such terror? Why assume an attack on Mainland India only?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Jul 2009 14:11

SSridhar wrote:LeT active again: UN Official
"Lashkar-e-Taiba tactics is quite obvious. It is trying to increase tensions between India and Pakistan at a time when they and their associates are particularly under pressure in western Pakistan," said Richard Barrett, Coordinator of the UN Security Council's al-Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Monitoring Committee.

"They may do that again," Mr. Barrett said, adding that this is the real risk. Mr. Barrett along with Chairman of the Security Council's al-Qaeda and Taliban Sanctions Committee, Thomas Mayr-Harting, the Austrian Ambassador, addressed a joint press conference at the UN headquarters in New York.
Folks, the Indian Home Ministry's warning and the UN official's anticipation of another terror strike by the LeT show the next strike is imminent. It could be a Southern city, one that has escaped so far.

Can it simply be, that PRC too is trying to divert the world's attention from East Turkestan, and has asked its Pakistani friends to launch another LeT attack on India. A possible backlash against IMs or a bloody media trail would be just the right thing, and everybody would have forgotten the Uyghur deaths in Urumqi.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 15 Jul 2009 14:12

^ Info from IB is about terror attack in Maharastra and most probably mumbai city. No mention of other cities.

IB puts Mumbai on terror alert
Wednesday, July 15, 2009,11:10 [IST]

Mumbai, Jul 15: The Intelligence Bureau (IB) on Tuesday, Jul 14 has directed that at least seven places in Maharashtra to be on high alert including reputed bank in Mumbai and railway junction in Navi Mumbai as terrorists are planning to strike these sites.

Earlier, Home minister P Chidambaram had warned that Pakistan-based terrorists could launch another sea-borne attack despite the bad weather and choppy seas.

Official sources said that the Jul 8 alert was issued based on the information received from the terror suspect who was detained in Jammu Kashmir. The police also recovered photographs of key areas likely the 'terror targets' in Maharashtra.

"The photographs are genuine. They include the picture of a reputed bank near the Bombay high court, two railway stations in Mumbai and a railway station in Navi Mumbai," an official said.

IB also mentioned four dates on which the terrorists planned to carry out the strikes. An officer said, "The LeT has been singled out as having planned an attack in the second alert too."

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Jul 2009 14:36

On 11th July RajeshA writes:

RajeshA wrote:
Gerard wrote:India plans to attack Pakistani nuclear installations using Baitullah Mehsud’s gang

<Al Qaida Cap>
Ayman-al-Zawahiri would soon be making an announcement, telling the world how treacherous Pakistani Govt and Pakistani Army has become, how they have spilling the blood of the momeen by the thousands, how the kufr Pakistani Army has chosen to attack the proud Taliban led by the Mujahideen Baitullah Mahsud at the behest of Amreeka.

This Pakistani Govt needs to be brought down!
</Al Qaida Cap>

Tumhare dronon se nazar nahin hatt-ti, pehgam hum kaise bhejen!

AoA

On 15th July, RajeshA reads
Al-Qaida number two urges Pakistanis to back insurgents: AFP

WASHINGTON: Ayman al-Zawahiri, the al-Qaida number two, has asked Pakistanis to support insurgents in their battle against a US-led "crusade"
which he said threatened the country's existence.

In an eight-minute, 49-second English-language video called "My Muslim Brothers and Sisters in Pakistan," Zawahiri said US intervention in Pakistan's military and politics could break up the nuclear-armed nation.

"The American crusader manipulation of Pakistan's destiny has reached such an extent that it now poses a grave danger to Pakistan's future and very existence," Zawahiri said in his speech.

The SITE Intelligence Group said the video was posted on jihadist web forums on Tuesday.

"It is evident that Pakistan is deeply involved in a fierce internal struggle between two forces" -- one representing "Islamic values" and the other being the US-led "crusade" to neutralise fighters threatening Western interests.

According to SITE, Zawahiri, the Egyptian second in command to Osama bin Laden, rallies Pakistanis to support the mujahedeen in Pakistan and neighbouring Afghanistan.

"(If) we stand by passively without offering due support to the mujahedeen, we shall not only contribute to the destruction of Pakistan and Afghanistan, but we shall also deserve the painful punishment of Almighty Allah."

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krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 15 Jul 2009 14:37

Why make it so public?

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 15 Jul 2009 14:38

Good work Rajeshji, reflects deep understanding on the issues involved! Else..look below:

AQ double agent ^^^

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Jul 2009 15:10

India-TSP relationship back on track ?

Which means, one more terrorist attack on Bharat is due followed by one more squeal from us.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Jul 2009 15:23

From the J & K Thread.

somnath wrote:But this state is the "best case scenario" for India in the foreseeable future. A Pakistan that is unbalanced, nervous, thrashing about, in an very very unstable disequilibrium...A stable Pakistan would like a china with jihadi predilections (nukes, focused national objectives et al)....... A broken up Pakistan will be a nightmarish scenario of multiple mad custodians of nukes, something like 3 or 4 North Koreas in our backyard, jihadis to boot!

somnath wrote:The current state, where a relatively small but influential elite acts as a buffer to the jihadi groups in its own interest makes our lives much easier (than what would be in the alternative scenarios)..

Pakistan has nukes because its guardians feel the need to either arm it with nukes (PRC) or leave it with nukes (USA). It is questionable whether the post-Pakistan statelets would really be all Jihadized. The big powers would be less amenable to allow nukes in the hands of the administrators of these statelets.

A Pakistan purportedly needs nukes to defend itself against its enemy India. With the demise of Pakistan, the basis of enmity, would be diluted to a large extent. The enmity whose foundation was laid, in the pre-Partition politics and communal tensions, in historical British games and tricks, in tussle between historical personalities, in Two-Nation Theory, in disputes over Kashmir, in ignominy of lost wars, in raison d'être of a militarized state, in Identity politics, in political rhetoric over nationalism, in international spats, etc. etc. This enmity has to do with the Pakistani State directly and not with the people of the region. With the people of the region there are other issues of religion, etc. With the demise of the Pakistani state, this foundational enmity would be wiped clean.

Moreover, there would be far more tensions between these statelets amongst each other, than between India and these statelets.

Also outside powers would not feel that any of these statelets would be able to stand up to India, so may not support them as they support Pakistan.

There are several reasons for getting rid of Pakistan, and this topic has been discussed here often.

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 15 Jul 2009 15:47

Here's proof that Pakistan wasn't serious

vdas · Post by **vdas** » 15 Jul 2009 15:50

Are we also serious in this case ? kasab fellow is still alive and the court room drama is still going on ....

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Jul 2009 16:00

Hard decisions by Zafar Hilaly: Jang

The fact is that the Taliban pose a potent civilisational threat to Pakistan that is greater ideologically than is the threat posed by India militarily. The Taliban threat is also more insidious because it is indigenous and internal as much as external. Furthermore, while diplomacy and dialogue can help ward off, and perhaps even neutralise India's animus, the Taliban will have to be worsted on the battlefield before negotiations can even begin, let alone succeed.

Similarly, while India and Pakistan can and have coexisted peacefully for long stretches of time. Pakistan and a Taliban on the rampage obviously cannot. While a hundred nuclear warheads mounted on missiles aimed at Indian cities may deter India they do not deter bigots and fanatics who believe that God is on their side and who live next door. Extremists whether in the guise of the Taliban or the Assassins of Syria cannot be contained; they must be defeated, nay eliminated.

The Taliban, in the course of the five terror filled years in Kabul (1996-2001) demonstrated just how "brotherly" were the feelings they maintained for their Tajik Muslim compatriots and those from Hazara. And, if more proof was required, the Taliban during their brief rule in Swat also demonstrated vividly how much they treasured the lives, property, security and well being of their "brother" compatriots and co religionists. A trail of eviscerated corpses, beheaded and slaughtered innocents, rapine and pillage has been the Taliban's legacy in Swat and elsewhere. Moreover, Taliban promises are observed only in the breech and their bent is so crooked that if they swallowed a nail it would emerge as a screw {Only shows the Taliban are just as Pakistani as the rest of Pakistanis}. Another trail of broken agreements and double speak bear witness to these self evident truths.

bart · Post by **bart** » 15 Jul 2009 16:07

From the J & K Thread.

somnath wrote:But this state is the "best case scenario" for India in the foreseeable future. A Pakistan that is unbalanced, nervous, thrashing about, in an very very unstable disequilibrium...A stable Pakistan would like a china with jihadi predilections (nukes, focused national objectives et al)....... A broken up Pakistan will be a nightmarish scenario of multiple mad custodians of nukes, something like 3 or 4 North Koreas in our backyard, jihadis to boot!

Pakistan has one goal and one only - harming India as much as possible. Its national character, and its very existence is predicated on perennially opposing India at every step. Its like a crocodile with a one-track mind constantly trying to attack you. Would you rather have a strong, prosperous crocodile or a weak one that can barely crawl?

somnath wrote:The current state, where a relatively small but influential elite acts as a buffer to the jihadi groups in its own interest makes our lives much easier (than what would be in the alternative scenarios)..

Sorry but that 'small but influential elite' is not the buffer. It is that group that is collecting the Jihadi and other unrest due to their rampant exploitation, abuse, and injustice meted out to their subjects and channeling it towards India through cynical use of religion and propaganda and a deliberate attempt the keep tensions with India on the boil. This elite is no buffer or solution to the problem, it IS the problem.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 15 Jul 2009 16:16

Actually, we don't need a Pakisan that is perpetually unbalanced, that indeed is bad for us as as been the case most of the last 60 years. We need a Pakistan thats fragmanted into smaller and yes stable entities.

We are against a stable Pakistan (will needle India always)
We are against a perpetually unstable Pakistan (may be disastrous coz of Nukes and stuff)
We are for a Stable Sindh
We are for a Stable Seraistan
We are for a Stable Baluchistan
We are for a Stable Pashtunistan
And yes we are for a Stable Pakjab.

May peace be with the people in those lovely countries. An water or hinterland/ port access/ mineral disputes amongst them we can broker in good faith.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 15 Jul 2009 17:11

The Kargil Debacle

The writer is an ex-commander of Special Service Group(SSG)

The article is not about the blase immorality of the whole operation, the perfidy and the fraud but how the perfidy must have been more cleverly concealed and how Pakistan should have been more aggressive.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 15 Jul 2009 17:39

Bomb blast in Bannu kills two policemen
15 Jul, 2009
BANNU: Two policemen were killed and five wounded in a bomb explosion in northwestern Pakistan’s Bannu town.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 15 Jul 2009 17:49

Swat clashes kill 14 as displaced return

PESHAWAR: Deadly skirmishes in Pakistan's Swat valley triggered fresh concern Wednesday about worsening security as the government returned thousands of civilians displaced by a military offensive.

Pakistan said 13 militants and one soldier were killed in Swat in 24 hours despite an announcement that the extremists had been defeated, and many of the 1.9 million people displaced by fighting against the Taliban are worried.

‘I fear the security situation may deteriorate in Swat any time,’ Gul Ahmad Khan told AFP from Barikot, two days after returning home to southern Swat in a government-organised convoy.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 15 Jul 2009 18:07

harbans wrote:Actually, we don't need a Pakisan that is perpetually unbalanced, that indeed is bad for us as as been the case most of the last 60 years. We need a Pakistan thats fragmanted into smaller and yes stable entities.

We are against a stable Pakistan (will needle India always)
We are against a perpetually unstable Pakistan (may be disastrous coz of Nukes and stuff)
We are for a Stable Sindh
We are for a Stable Seraistan
We are for a Stable Baluchistan
We are for a Stable Pashtunistan
And yes we are for a Stable Pakjab.

May peace be with the people in those lovely countries. An water or hinterland/ port access/ mineral disputes amongst them we can broker in good faith.

Each of them would be a potential North Korea, with jihadi influence to boot...The biggest nightmare after the breakup of the Soviet Union was how individual states, especially the central asian ones, would deal with the nukes...The successful denuclearisation of Central Asia was one of the major foreifgn policy triumphs of the US...But they were dealing with relatively functional states, not with dysfunctional tribal and religious socieities.

On the other hand, a strong Pakistan isnt desirable either...

On ghe other hand, an unstable, on the brink, but still not over the precipice Pakistan, will be constantly busy with itself to pose a real danger to us...It will thrash around, but not force mortal choices..

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Jul 2009 18:29

somnath wrote:Each of them would be a potential North Korea, with jihadi influence to boot, with dysfunctional tribal and religious socieities.

On the other hand, a strong Pakistan isnt desirable either...

On the other hand, an unstable, on the brink, but still not over the precipice Pakistan, will be constantly busy with itself to pose a real danger to us...It will thrash around, but not force mortal choices..

somnath ji,
You should also consider the possibility, that India can extend its influence into these statelets and play the local political games. Some statelets would be landlocked, most would not have direct access to China. They would be far more amenable to pressure.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 15 Jul 2009 18:57

Pak yet to respond to proposal to increase shrines, pilgrims

New Delhi, Jul 15 Pakistan is yet to respond to India & a poss proposal to increase the number of shrines and pilgrims under the Bilateral Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines, the Lok Sabha was informed today.

Replying to a question, Minister of State for External Affairs Preneet Kaur said a proposal to increase both the number of shrines and pilgrims under the Bilateral Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines has been pursued with the Pakistan government for four years.

"However, Pakistan is yet to formally respond to the proposal,"she said.

The Minister also added that grant of visa to Indian nationals, including pilgrims, to visit Pakistan is their prerogative.

Haj: The government has issued new policy guidelines to all the Passport offices after consultation with the National and State Haj Committees to ensure that no Haj pilgrim faces any hurdle in obtaining his/her passport to undertake the pilgrimage, Minister of State for External Affairs Shashi Tharoor said.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 15 Jul 2009 19:06

IOL states that the Agosta contract was part of a wider defence deal that included KSA. The people who pocketed bribes were also sitting in Riyadh. Were they involved in the murder of french engineers in Karachi?

JF17 going into prod'n this year, Paki's have contacted western missile makers and avionics suppliers for eqpt. Apparently contract is quite attractive.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 Jul 2009 19:29

SSridhar wrote:India-TSP relationship back on track ?

Which means, one more terrorist attack on Bharat is due followed by one more squeal from us.

Shows you the casual and lackadaisical approach that even India is adopting. See this from DDM as though Mumbai terror is some side footnot among more important issues

Relations between the two countries nosedived after the Mumbai terror attack. India suspended the composite dialogue process. The latest effort at putting them back on track comes as the alleged mastermind of the attacks, Jamaat-ud-Daawa chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed's case is up for hearing in the Pakistan Supreme Court. While the prickly issue of his release is being heard in Islamabad, the two countries are in the process of ironing out some of their differences.

The Beeb, as usual tries its best to keep it equal equal with a similar casual tone.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 15 Jul 2009 20:15

http://www.daily.pk/7070/uzi-diplomacy- ... -no-peace/
Gotta love this Salik Malik dude. Lots of howlers and towels thrown in this article. Examples include:

Israel acquired an element of strategic depth (crucial for a geographically small state like Israel) set up logistical bases in the Indian Ocean for its navy. Three Israel submarine are stationed in Indian ocean in Bangalore.He must mean Bangalore, Kerala for sure

Pakistan has to demand the UN investigation of Indian parliament attack in 2002 and role of Israel (Mossad) and probe into Mumbai carnage and attack on Norman house – Israel culture center why terrorist attack on that place

Pakistan has to tell the Arabs the price Pakistan is paying as leader of Muslim ummah and unconditional support to the cause of Palestine and burden to its economy due to heavily spending on military expenditure due to Indian and Israel defense cooperation, India ambition to break the Pakistan again.

Heck I'd highlight a lot more howlers from the article, but then I'd end up posting the whole article. Lots of whining about H&D loss and evil YYY cooperating with each other against the land of the pure. Full article definitely deserves a read for its entertainment value.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 15 Jul 2009 20:21

India calls for dismantling "infrastructure of terrorism"

SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (Reuters) - Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Wednesday that "the infrastructure of terrorism" must be dismantled and those involved in it be brought to justice.

He was speaking at a gathering in Egypt before a meeting on Thursday with Pakistan Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani.

New Delhi has long called on Pakistan to disarm Pakistan-based militant groups, including one it blames for last year's attack on Mumbai.

"The infrastructure of terrorism must be dismantled and there should be no safe haven for terrorists because they do not represent any cause, group or religion," Singh told a summit of the Non-Aligned Movement in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 15 Jul 2009 20:38

Well now that it is time yet again for another terrorist attack onto India, let us see how prepared we really are.

1. Ajmal Kasab is still alive and kicking - he hasn't been convicted yet. IOW his status is similar to Maulana Masood Azhar's situation. If the terrorists manage to take a number of hostages, they can demand an exchange for this guy. GOI will be more than happy to be rid of this chap in exchange for some hostages, moreover the dhimmi janta janardhan will be happy he is gone, politicians get great opportunity for photo ops, not to mention the immense opportunities in getting their hands on ghoos money when they go in for flash bulk purchases at jacked up prices. (as it is after the elections the coffers are empty and need filling up)

2. In spite off all the halla about inadequate equipment during the mumbai attacks, and promises of modernization of the police forces, one election later, things are exactly where they were on 26/11.
The mumbai police don't have metal backed bullet proof vests which can withstand an assault rifle bullet, I am sure the RPF/GRP still has those arachic .22 rifles 90% of which don't fire. (I was speaking to a school friend now in the police force - his comment, India is a weapons free nation, most police cadets get to fire a few rounds during training, and that's it. No annual compulsory weapons training or firing. Most weapons are ill maintained, and haven't been fired or serviced in years!)

Has the mumbai police set up several rapid reaction teams which will be equipped with transportation to reach the site of any attack within half an hour at the most? Will the NSG still have to wait for a B.E.S.T driver to be woken up to drive them to where the attack is taking place?
Even NSG equipment needs an upgrade, If any of you watched videshi news channels, they were critical of the helmets and firearms that the NSG had.

atma · Post by **atma** » 15 Jul 2009 22:46

Al-Qaida No. 2: US threatens Pakistan's destiny

The English-language audio message by Ayman al-Zawahri was dated July 14 and addressed to "my Muslim brothers and sisters in Pakistan." In it, the militant group's second-in-command called on Pakistanis to join the fight against the United States or support the battle financially.

He warned that without that help "we shall not only contribute to the destruction of Pakistan and Afghanistan, but we shall also deserve the painful punishment of Almighty Allah."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090715/ap_ ... wahri_tape

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Jul 2009 23:07

SSridhar wrote:The Kargil Debacle

Quite a many nuggets and a deep insight into the way the paki mind works, especially, in the armed forces. Bottom line, the writer seems to be suggesting for better planning and coordination next time.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Jul 2009 23:18

ArmenT wrote:http://www.daily.pk/7070/uzi-diplomacy- ... -no-peace/

India and Israel are two democratic countries who killed more than one million people on the name of insurgency from 1947 to 2008 (Kashmir, Assam, Palestine).

Besides the obvious grammatical errors, I guess this "one million" dead include lactating goats, sheep, camels, and "innocent" civilians who were thinking of multiplying their brood.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Jul 2009 23:24

Trousers only! We are paki police.

Swat police back in action

DIG Idrees said “The cops in Swat were wearing shalwar qameez after Taliban threatened them against wearing trousers. Now we have ensured that all would wear trousers as it is part of discipline,”.

Because we are mard-e-momeen. So, no tights either

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Jul 2009 23:29

Competing with the Indian Army in...
Planting trees.

Indian Army broke Mexico’s record of planting 348,493 trees on 29-30 August, 2008 by planting 447,874 on June 12-13 this year. Pakistan will be chasing a target of planting at least 450,000 trees.

The activity, to be monitored by independent monitors and adjudicators deputed by the Guinness Book of Word Records, will achieve the national objective of increasing forest and raising awareness among masses, besides creating a soft image of the country in the world.

That's right. Please, duniyawalon, do not ridicule the pakis. They are tree-planters and, hence, have a softer side.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jul 2009 23:33

Dont ehy have water crisis? How are they going to water the new trees? Or will it be another 'causus whinus' that bad old India is denying water to the greening of TSP?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Jul 2009 23:59

The only trees the pakistnis are going to plant are the ones they have planted all these years - Terrorist Man eating trees.

Man eating trees of Madagascar

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 16 Jul 2009 00:44

LeT attack could involve Clinton. I would not be surprised if the LeT tries to take on India and the US at the same time.

However, this stuff about an attack from the sea is getting to be too old. The attack has to originate from some land area and that should be fairly easy to nail.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jul 2009 00:54

Will 10% go back to BB?

Nightwatch Jul 14, 2009

Pakistan-bin Laden: Usama bin Laden’s 3 June audio message denouncing President Obama contained about 26 minutes of denunciations against Pakistani authorities. The anti-Pakistan statements received little attention anywhere. However, on 11 and 12 July an Urdu translation of that portion of the tape was posted to the Internet, according to MSN India.

Bin Laden called President Zardari and the Pakistan Army allies of Satan and urged that Zardari and Chief of Army Staff General Kayani be targeted. One report also mentions Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. Bin Laden warned, “if Pakistan gets weak India would divide it into parts and Pakistani nuclear assets may be neutralized then.”

He said “Asif Zardari and Ashfaq Kayani have continued to distract the army from its main tasks, which are protecting Islam, and protecting its followers, and its territories. Instead, they prompted it to fight Islam and those who demand the implementation of it and they order it to kill and fight the Pashtun and Baloch tribes. Meanwhile, most of the Pakistani people reject this unjust war. Zardari has done so in response to those who pay him in the White House not only 10%, rather they pay doubles than that.”

(Note: Zardari used to be called “Mr. 10%” which referred to his practice of requiring ten percent as his fee in making investment deals, using Benazir Bhutto’s -- his wife -- connections as Prime Minister)

One of the most fractious debates in the Afghan and Pakistan branches of the Taliban movement has concerned where to concentrate the fight. Afghanistan’s Mullah Omar has insisted the Americans and other outsiders must be removed from Afghanistan and Pakistan left alone. Baitullah Mehsud has tended to focus his resources on attacks within Pakistan. In that target set, he has had support from Ayman Zawahiri who denounced Musharraf during his tenure, and now from bin Laden who has denounced Zardari and General Kayani.

Today seems to be the first day that Pakistani news services picked up on the parts of the 3 June tape that mention Pakistan. The Pakistani parts of the message appear to be bin Laden’s acceptance of the new US strategy in which Afghanistan and Pakistan are lumped together as a single problem. That implies an assessment that if the pro-US leadership of Pakistan is murdered, the Taliban will achieve a significant victory benefiting its interests in both countries.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Jul 2009 01:16

Mentioning Kiyani and Geelani is the alibi part of the statement, the real target is Zardari. Usama bin laden, if he is still alive is now the official mouthpiece of the interservices intelligence jihad wing. Notice how inside information about mr 10% graduating to 20% is available. Also how although kiyani and geelani are mentioned in passing the real diatribe is aimed at zardari and the US which anchors him in place in islamabad.

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 16 Jul 2009 02:45

ArmenT wrote:http://www.daily.pk/7070/uzi-diplomacy- ... -no-peace/
Gotta love this Salik Malik dude. Lots of howlers and towels thrown in this article. Examples include:
Israel acquired an element of strategic depth (crucial for a geographically small state like Israel) set up logistical bases in the Indian Ocean for its navy. Three Israel submarine are stationed in Indian ocean in Bangalore.He must mean Bangalore, Kerala for sure

Pakistan has to demand the UN investigation of Indian parliament attack in 2002 and role of Israel (Mossad) and probe into Mumbai carnage and attack on Norman house – Israel culture center why terrorist attack on that place

Pakistan has to tell the Arabs the price Pakistan is paying as leader of Muslim ummah and unconditional support to the cause of Palestine and burden to its economy due to heavily spending on military expenditure due to Indian and Israel defense cooperation, India ambition to break the Pakistan again.
Heck I'd highlight a lot more howlers from the article, but then I'd end up posting the whole article. Lots of whining about H&D loss and evil YYY cooperating with each other against the land of the pure. Full article definitely deserves a read for its entertainment value.

Perhaps porki editors,journos know where the market trend is and how to make a conspiracy theory .

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 16 Jul 2009 02:49

Israel, the rogue nation & illegitimate child of America

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 16 Jul 2009 03:20

Samay wrote:Israel, the rogue nation & illegitimate child of America

Man treasure trove here ................. of true, distilled Pakiism.

Brajesh Mishra, outlined a proposal in a speech to the American Jewish Committee in Washington in May 2003 that India, Israel, and the United States should unite to combat the common threat of Islam.

Israel is most probably behind the Indian parliament attack in 2002 and now in Mumbai terrors attacks of 2008 to accelerate arms sale to India

Pakistan’s missile and nuclear weapon technologies are main concern to Israel. Pakistan is a supplier of intermediate-range missiles and if transfers this technology to boost its arm industry to countries like Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Syria then Israel will be in serious problems

Proliferation ........... in the past.

Anyone who reads this will gain 3 years of extra life due to laughter.

According to a the United States Congressional Research Service, Pakistan spent $45.1bn on arms purchases from 1992 to 2008, due to Monster Israel and India military cooperation.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 16 Jul 2009 04:00

^^^
Arrey, Barbaad kar diya party.