Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII

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no yaar - think he is busy with his studies -just a guess
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vivek has had a very busy schedule of late and hopes to be back soon. in fact his return is overdue now.
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Gentlemen,

As Rahul said, I have been having one heck of a time with work off late, but that's behind me now. At the moment I am setting up my scenario to recap the various sector battles that had been going on before I kick the tires and light the fires.

Give me a few hours and I should be able to restart.

-Vivek
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vivek_ahuja wrote:Gentlemen,

As Rahul said, I have been having one heck of a time with work off late, but that's behind me now. At the moment I am setting up my scenario to recap the various sector battles that had been going on before I kick the tires and light the fires.

Give me a few hours and I should be able to restart.

-Vivek
Hip Hip Hurray !!!!


BTW guys what do we want ? Restarting the new scenario or a brand new one ?
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Let him complete the current one.


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yup , the Indo-china scenario was enthralling to say the least.
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Ajit.C wrote:Let him complete the current one.
I am for it too. Lets take Aksai Chin and Tibet back.

Ankit
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Yippeeeee.. today is a good day... Ahuja Sir and Shankarda are back... let's go bash some chinkis and porkis...
Oh btw i am for finishing the current scenario... before starting a new one...
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ON BOARD AIR INDIA ONE – APPROACHING MALE –MALDIVES –INDIAN OCEAN

Major General C RAY eased back on his not so spacious seat and finished the half full glass of Dom Perinton as he picked up the travel brochure handed over by the some what aging air hostess of the national carrier. This was his second visit to the island country, the first was when he was much younger and cramped in the belly of an IL 76 flying straight out of Agra.
Now he was going back as head of Military mission accompanying the prime ministers entourage to check out the feasibility of setting up a tri service command in line with the successful model of Andaman & Nicobar Islands. The VVIP s will return after 3 days once the formal agreement was signed and sealed .He planned to stay back a week to do an informal recon of the proposed site and also to soak in the sun and surf

The Maldives is famed for its rare underwater beauty. The profusion of psychedelic colours and the abundance and variety of life underwater have fascinated divers and snorkellers since Maldives was discovered as a diving destination.
The highest level of visibility that one could expect- sometimes exceeding 50 metres - and warm temperatures throughout the year makes diving in the Maldives a delight you would want to experience over and over again.
Here we have made a list of activities offered by most resorts in the Maldives to make your Maldives holidays memorable and fun. In addition to these activates individual resorts will have resort specific actives planned for your holiday in the Maldives. So always ask the travel agent or email the resort directly "what are the things to do in Maldives"

Top Things to do in Maldives
Big Game Fishing
Go for a fishing trip of a lifetime on our deep sea fishing boat and fish for marlin, tuna, sailfish, wahoo and many more.
Dream Island Trip
Fulfil your dream of being Robinson Crusoe on a nearby deserted island. Stroll along pristine white beaches or snorkel among the myriad of fish on the reef, surfacing only for the picnic lunch prepared especially for you.
Explore the Cultural Centre
Visit Dhangethi Island, home to the country�s only cultural centre and discover the local way of life the way it used to be. Let local women cook lunch, visit a school, learn about dhoni building and local crafts, followed with a chance to go snorkelling.
Fishing
At sunset or at dawn, take a dhoni boat to nearby reefs and
go fishing in true Maldivian style using hand-reel line.
Island Hopping
An unmissable chance to see three islands in one trip: first,
a stop at a local island which is a great place for sightseeing.
Next, visit a deserted island for snorkelling, sunbathing
and a picnic lunch. Finally move on to a local resort island to refresh and for more snorkelling.
Lucky Dolphin trip
An excursion to spot the most amazing animals in the sea: the playful Spinner Dolphins who call the Indian Ocean their home.
Picnic on a deserted island
Spend half a day on our private island, relax on the beach, go swimming and work up an appetite for the picnic lunch served under the shade of a palm tree.
Snorkel Hopping
A trip on a speedboat to the best snorkeling sites on nearby coral reefs. Choose from sunrise or daytime excursions.
Snorkel Safari
Visit some of the famous snorkeling sites where you can see turtles, sharks and even possibly a manta ray.
Sunset Cruise
Relax on the sundeck of our traditional dhoni boat and admire the spectacular views of the sun setting on the waters of the Indian Ocean.
Visit a local Fishing Village
Experience the authentic life of a Maldivian fisherman and wander along the streets of a nearby fishing village.
Yachting
Exploring true beauties of the Maldives on a private yacht for a cruise that dreams are made of.


The voice on the senior cabin crew broke his thoughts “ may I have your attention please .We shall be landing at Male in a few minutes .Please fold back your tables ,keep your sit back straight and fasten your seat belts ………………………..
The flaps came out and the air brake deployed foe a few minutes slowing down the A320 significantly as the surf line of Male came into view .The undercarriage locked down with a thud and the air bus flashed over the shore line onto the main runway, nicely flaring out for a smooth touch down.
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Yeah.. finally some action in an island.. hope this goes all the way to finish... till the conflict is resolved...
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Why can't we have some scenarios that reach some kind of ending? :!:
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Shankar wrote:
The flaps came out and the air brake deployed foe a few minutes slowing down the A320 significantly ........


Nitpick ... Air India does not operate any A320s.
Why no mention of the uncle-made "EUA Approved" BBJ?

Not meant for the PM?
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vijyeta wrote:
Shankar wrote:
The flaps came out and the air brake deployed foe a few minutes slowing down the A320 significantly ........


Nitpick ... Air India does not operate any A320s.
Why no mention of the uncle-made "EUA Approved" BBJ?

Not meant for the PM?


Air India would have acquired the A320 due to the merger with Indian (i.e. Indian Airlines).
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I bought the first of the Mukul Deva's novels after the recommendation of others at BR. But frankly it was a dissapointing read. Maybe after reading some of the scenarios here I have begun expecting lot more details than were available in the novel.

Kudos to the writers here for the top class quality that they have maintained.
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KARACHI NAVAL BASE –PAKISTAN

Vice Admiral Liakat checked the news paper report on Indian Prime ministers visit to Maldives and smiled silently .He has just received clearance fro naval head quarters Islamabad on “OPERATION DARK SHARK” . The plan was audacious just like Kargil was more than decade back. It essentially called for a rapid strike on Male, Capital of Maldives buy “irregulars” which means Pakistani naval and army commandoes at the seat of Maldives Government machinery, international airport and install a puppet government before Indians can react .The new Government will then issue an immediate withdrawal of all Indian forces and faced with growing international pressure India was expected to comply. Naturally Pakistan and her ally China will move in swiftly to fillthe power vacuum denying the Indian navy the option of setting up a major naval air base like Diego Garcia and put the US forces in the region on notice, bringing them within easy missile reach of the Chinese submarines and aircraft operating from the island chain.
The first group of commandoes will be inserted by submarines followed by air dropping of another contingent by air force C-130 s .Before Indians can act Maldives will become a de facto province of Pakistan ,a natural order of things considering most of the population is any way belong to Islam.
Islam was introduced in 1153 by travelers. The king converted to Islam and told his subjects to do the same; the country had been Buddhist for hundreds of years prior to that. Islam is important in Maldives. The traditional Islamic law code of sharia, known in Dhivehi as sariatu, forms the basic law code of Maldives as interpreted to conform to local Maldivian conditions by the president, the attorney general, the Ministry of Home Affairs, and the Majlis. On the inhabited islands, the miski, or mosque, forms the central place where Islam is practiced. Because Friday is the most important day for Muslims to attend mosque, shops and offices in towns and villages close around 11 a.m., and the sermon begins by 12:30 p.m. Most inhabited islands have several mosques; Malé has more than thirty. Most mosques are whitewashed buildings constructed of coral stone with corrugated iron or thatched roofs. In Malé, the Islamic Center and the Grand Friday Mosque, built in 1984 with funding from the Persian Gulf states, Pakistan, Brunei, and Malaysia, are imposing elegant structures. The gold-colored dome of this mosque is the first structure sighted when approaching Malé. In mid-1991 Maldives had a total of 724 mosques and 266 women's mosques.
Prayer sessions are held five times daily. Mudimu, the mosque caretakers, make the call. Most shops and offices close for fifteen minutes after each call. During the ninth Muslim month of Ramadan, cafés and restaurants are closed during the day, and working hours are limited.
The isolation of Maldives from the historical centers of Islam in the Middle East and Asia has allowed some pre-Islamic beliefs and attitudes to survive. Western anthropologist Maloney reports ,being told by a Muslim cleric during his 1970s fieldwork in Maldives that for most Maldivians Islam is "largely a matter of observing ablutions, fasting, and reciting incomprehensible Arabic prayer formulas." There is a widespread belief in local evil spirits (handi, furētha) leading to the use of various charms and spells for protection. The popularity of these beliefs has led some observers to identify a magic-religious system parallel to Islam known as fanditha, which provides a more personal way for the islanders to deal with either actual or perceived problems in their lives.

However the operation was not as simple primarily because of logistics problem and the constant threat of Indian navy which considers Indian ocean as their own backwaters .But Liyakat was not unduly worried on this count .His chineese friends have assured him of all “necessary “support” in this endeavor and that he hoped will neutralize any advantage Indian navy may have.

During the 1980s, the Pakistan Navy went through an unprecedented period of growth. It virtually doubled its surface fleet from nine main surface combatants in 1980 up to 16 by 1989, also acquiring sophisticated long-range anti-ship missiles and enhancing its maritime reconnaissance capabilities. This expansion process also proved the navy's ability to manage the added administrative, maintenance and operational loads.
The submarine force currently consists of two HASTMAT class (AGOSTA type) built between 1976 and 1980, four HANGOR class (DAPHNE type) built between 1967 and 1970 and one KHALID class (AGOSTA 90B type), all of these boats being of French origin. The HASHMATs were modified in 1985 to fire Sub-HARPOON depth-to-surface anti-ship missiles. The HANGOR class boats, now close to obsolescence, will be replaced by three new AGOSTA 90B type submarines, first of which has already been inducted into Pakistan navy.
The main assets of the naval air wing currently consist of two P-3C ORION and four improved Breguet ATLANTIC anti-submarine and maritime patrol aircraft, four F-27 maritime surveillance and EW aircraft, plus thirteen ship-borne helicopters, comprising six Mk45 SEAKINGs, three LYNX ASW/attack types and four SA-319B ALOUETTE IIIs. The Marine Corps is the youngest force in the Pakistan Navy. With its establishment the navy has become capable of operations on four dimensions, i.e., on the sea with surface combatants, under the sea with submarines, in the air with naval aircraft and on the ground with the Marine Corps.
He picked up the secured phone to chief of naval staffs office and requested an appointment for day after next .It was granted and kept down the handset ,his mind already working on the problem of arranging the necessary marine and air resources .
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Vivek's story should be in a different thread please (pretty please), pull in the older posts too!!
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INDIA PLANS NAVAL BASE ON MALDIVES TO CONTAIN CHINESE INFLUENCE - REPORT



With China developing Port in Sri Lanka

As China is expanding their activities in the south Asian region, including development activities in Sri Lanka, India is planning to establish a naval base and listening post in the Maldives, the tropical holiday islands in the Indian Ocean, in an attempt to contain growing Chinese influence in the region, the Telegraph reported.

Its naval chiefs and military strategists have become increasingly alarmed by China's expansion in South Asia where it has established a series of bases in neighbouring countries.

It is currently developing a deep water harbour for its expanding fleet of nuclear submarines in Gwadar, Pakistan, and is developing ports in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Indian strategists have described its growing number of ports as a "string of pearls" around its neck.

Officials are now in talks with their counterparts in the Maldives to boost security for the tiny island, which has been targeted by drug smugglers, terrorists and pirates, and also to develop a new vantage point to protect its own coastal waters.

Under the plan, India wants to develop a former Royal Air Force base on the islands, and integrate the Maldives into its own coastguard system.

The Indian defence minister, A.K. Anthony, visited the islands to discuss the deployment of surveillance aircraft and ships.

The Maldivian government has found it impossible to police its own waters. It has more than a 1,000 tiny islands, only 200 of which are inhabited, with just under 400 miles separating the northernmost island from its most southerly.

"India wants to reinforce and expand its perimeter defence and an active surveillance from a naval base will contribute to that important strategic objective," said Dr. Anupam Srivastava, director of the Asia Programme at the University of Georgia's Centre for International Trade and Security. Earlier, Sri Lanka rejected Indian navy claims that the presence of Chinese technicians in Hambantota was for military purposes and not just to work on development projects.

“They are here to build the Hambantota Port and it is a development project and nothing to do with military purposes,” Ports Minister Chamal Rajapaksa had said. He said Sri Lanka began to build the harbour with a special loan facility extended by the Chinese government.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Secti ... RTID=58906
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I bought the first of the Mukul Deva's novels after the recommendation of others at BR. But frankly it was a dissapointing read. Maybe after reading some of the scenarios here I have begun expecting lot more details than were available in the novel.

Kudos to the writers here for the top class quality that they have maintained

Mukul Devs books are primarily Counter Terrorism with a backdrop of Socio-Political Commentary on the subject visavis Islam(India/Pak).... The Senario's here are full fledged wars.. You cant compare the two.
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^^^ Khanna ji, the setting of the scenario is incidental. The attention to details is what makes each writing different.

Neverthless, let's not derail the thread. Let us sit back and enjoy the wonderful scenarios emerging here.
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Shankar,

Please go ahead. I am out of commission for next two months due to extensive workload!
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Please go ahead. I am out of commission for next two months due to extensive workload!
Cant we have one posting on final decision which will bring the revolution in the way leadership behave in India

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PLAN HEADQUARTERS –BEIJING –PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA

Admiral Li shao Chi looked at the news report on Indian naval plans incorporating Maldives with more than passing interest. If the proposed Indian naval base comes up in reality then the plans of PLAN in the ocean region will be surely jeopardized.

Despite several rounds of negotiations PLAN request for a base facility in the island chain have been politely but firmly denied by the local government, and now this agreement sighed with India gave the whole picture a different color.

He knew of course about the Pakistani plan for a covert amphibian strike in the offing and their request for naval support from PLAN was on his desk. He decided to take up the matter in the afternoon with defense minister and once the formal clearance is given to deploy a small but effective naval task force to cover the Pakistani strike mission by putting up a blocking flotilla between India and her new naval base in the making . He though for moment and then penned the name “operation sea dragon” on the top secret folder and headed slowly towards the defense ministers office

The location of the Republic of Maldives astride the major seaplanes in the Indian Ocean is of strategic relevance to India. -- Ministry of Defense’s annual report, 2000.
27 July 2001: China has engineered a manner of a coup by coaxing Maldives' Abdul Gayoom government to let it establish a base in Mario. Mario is one of the largest of the 1192 coral islands grouped into atolls that comprise Maldives and lies 40 km south of Male, the capital.
However later the Maldives government under considerable Indian pressure back tracked on the decision and negotiations continued without any outcome for several years .
Coral islands make fine submarine pens. The Peoples' Liberation Army Navy or PLAN planned to deploy nuclear submarines fitted with sea-launched Dong Feng-44 missiles and ballistic missiles (SLBMs) in Marao.
Scientists warn that global warming is pushing up ocean and sea levels. They fear that most of Maldives will be submerged by year 2040. Marao may be one of the few large islands that may survive. "And even if it goes under water," said a naval official, "it will be ideal for submarines."
The base deal was finalised after two years of negotiations when Chinese prime minister Zhu Rongji visited Male on 17 May 2001 on his four-nation South Asian tour. It marks a high point in China's ambitious - and audacious - plan to encircle India and choke its emergent blue-water navy in the Indian Ocean itself.
And it indicates schisms with Maldives, a friendly country saved from a coup by Indian special forces in November 1988.

Things changed however after Maldives president Gayoom visited India in August 2000 and held consultations with prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on issues of mutual interest including "cross-border terrorism" and regional security. Maldives favours "direct talks" between India and Pakistan to resolve the Kashmir issue. Maldives is a Sunni Muslim country that gained independence from Britain and has fair relations with Pakistan.
After the talks in New Delhi, Gayoom met reporters and disclosed that Maldives was "not considering any proposal to set up a permanent Chinese naval base" in that country. He added that there was no such proposal from the Indian side also and that the issue did not figure in the talks. He concluded with a tantalizing half-observation that Maldives had "excellent levels of cooperation in defence" with India.

That statement hid some things. It hid, for example, the fact that both India and China were actively wooing Maldives or, at any rate, spoiling it for each other.
Five months before Gayoom's visit, Indian naval chief Sushil Kumar had been to Male. In November 2000, Maldives' junior minister for defence and national security, Major General Abdul Sattar Anbaree, came to India. From 9-12 January 2001, (then) defence minister George Fernandes toured Maldives and held extensive discussions with Major-General Anbaree.
"Naval chief Sushil Kumar and Fernandes' visits got the Chinese suspicious," said a naval official. The Chinese had themselves taken off five times to Maldives before the Rongji visit "under the pretext of boosting bilateral trade and Chinese assistance for infrastructural development and boosting tourism". But Fernandes' visit was the turning point for them, not least because Fernandes, a Lohia-ite, lead the anti-Chinese lobby in the Indian government and had once labeled China India's "no 1 threat".
In February 2001, a small delegation from Pakistan visited Maldives to boost cultural ties. "The Pakistanis put pressure on Male to facilitate Chinese plans for a naval base," said an official. "China used Pakistan to play the Islamic card with Maldives."
China is close to striking a formal deal with Maldives for Marao. It will use Marao islands for 25 years on lease and pay back Maldives in foreign currency and create jobs for the locals dependent entirely on tourism and fishing.

In short it was open season for all major players in the region with the exception of US and Russia to assert them more strongly –the tiny island of Maldives stood on their cross hair.
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INDIAN NAVAL BASE- KARWAR -KARNATAKA

Vice admiral Rao looked looked looked at the mass of intelligence briefs lying on his desk including a special report compiled by his own staff officers on the geo strategic importance of Indian ocean region .The special report was not very well compiled but contained a wealth of information .Outside he could see the giant aircraft carrier Vikramaditya ,recently arrived from a tour of the southern arabian sea being given a fresh coat of paint .The 28 odd Mig 29k S have already flown out to Dabolim for servicing and some instrument upgrade . The Ka 31 S were in the nearby naval air station and will continue operating from shore for the next month or so .
Whoever controls the Indian Ocean dominates Asia. This ocean is the key to the seven seas in the twenty-first century, the destiny of the world will be decided in these waters." US Rear Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan quoted by Cdr. P K Ghosh in Maritime Security Challenges in South Asia and the Indian Ocean, 18 January 2004


Barry Desker, Director IDSS, Singapore - "the emergence of new powers like China and India is expected to transform the regional strategic landscape in a fashion that could be as dramatic as the rise of Germany in the 19th century and the United States in the 20th century"
Sam Bateman, Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies, Singapore "...India continues to have the most powerful navy; dominating the Indian Ocean. India’s maritime influence is extending eastwards, and as a consequence it will become a greater player in regional political and security affairs. This is essentially part of its effort to counter any advancement of Chinese naval power in the Indian Ocean. India is also actively developing its strategic relationship with the US and by doing so has further boosted its role in the region. Naval development will continue to be a top priority of the Indian armed forces and there will be a re-establishment of a credible aircraft carrier capability in the near future. .. there are serious long term implications of India’s apparent desire to demonstrate a capability to operate East of Singapore, and China’s similar intentions to operate into the Indian Ocean.”
"It was Admiral Alfred T. Mahan (1840-1914) of the United States Navy who is reported to have said that who ever attains maritime supremacy in the Indian Ocean would be a prominent player on the international scene. Admiral Mahan was a great Naval strategic thinker and historian who was in many ways the Naval equivalent of the Army's Clausewitz (General Karl Von Clausewitz of Germany). It was in 1890 that Mahan wrote the famous treatise on 'The influence of Sea Power upon History, 1660-1783' that changed Naval thinking in the United States
The Indian peninsula (i.e. the Deccan and below) juts 1,240 miles into the Indian Ocean. 50% of the Indian Ocean basin lies within a 1,000 mile radius of India, a reality that has strategic implications. India is one of six countries in the world to have developed the technology to extract minerals from the deep sea bed. Under the law of the sea, it has an exclusive economic zone of 772,000 square miles. Chennai is a mere 3,400 miles away from Perth in Australia, slightly more than the distance between New York and Los Angeles.
The Straits of Malacca, the world’s second busiest sea lane, assume relevance here. 80% of Japan’s oil supplies and 60% of China’s oil supplies are shipped through the Straits of Malacca. US$ 70 billion worth of oil passes through the straits each year. Almost half the world’s containerized traffic passes through this choke point. Most of the ships approach the straits through the 10 degree channel between the Andaman and Nicobar islands. India has the potential to dominate a strategic sea lane. India established its Far Eastern Marine Command at Port Blair in the Andamans. It plans to develop Port Blair as a strategic international trade center and build an oil terminal and transhipment port in Campal Bay in the Nicobar islands.
The conflict-affected Indonesian province of Aceh sits at the tip of Sumatra i.e. the southern entrance of the Straits of Malacca. The Chola empire had an outpost in Aceh in early medieval times while the Portuguese, Dutch and British controlled it thereafter in succession. Aceh has large reserves of natural gas and minerals. The land mark peace accord between Acehnese rebels and Djakarta needs to be viewed in the context of this strategic sea lane.
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INS ARIHANT – SOME WHERE IN THE INDIAN OCEAN

300 meters below the waves she sailed in deathly silence .At 6 knots speed she was almost a silent hole in the ocean .Her powerful reactor rated at 180 MW thermal and delivering close to 45 MW of energy to drive the single 7 bladed highly skewed propeller pushed her through the inky depth of ocean effortlessly .Though capable of speed burst of upto 40+knots in emergency she normally cruised slow and silent with her deadly arsenal of 300 KT adjustable yield thermonuclear warheads mated to the very best of Indian missiles Agni 3 SL ,capable of reaching the farthest corner of the globe from anywhere in the oceans .The silos could be modified quickly to launch land attack missiles K-15 type if required by an ingenious adopter system . The massive bow mounted sonar fed her an accurate picture of the watery dessert around her up to a distance of 100 km plus and the state of the art towed array sonar when deployed could pick up the noises of a hostile ship or submarine from far off and relay the data to the combat information centre through a net work of fibre optic cables accurately and instantly .The control rods moved up by a fraction of millimeter every time a speed correction was ordered from the control increasing or decreasing the surface area of fuel rods exposed to fission reaction where uranium 235 got constantly converted to Plutonium 239 and other shorter half life fission products and releasing amount of raw thermal energy . The massive flow of water through the reactor core at pressure over 200 times atmosphere absorbed the heat and transferred the heat to a primary heat exchanger built within the reactor vessel where it was absorbed by the secondary circuit and used to produce high pressure superheated steam in the steam generator which turned the high pressure turbine at close to 30000 revolutions per minute and through a small high efficiency reducing gear box provided the primary propulsive power for the submarine to turn the single 7 bladed screw at several hundred revolutions per minute
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Shankarji, just how effective will the fizzle bums carried by the arihant be in deterring anyone?
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hankarji, just how effective will the fizzle bums carried by the arihant be in deterring anyone?
good question-it was rectified with limited Russian "assistance" -and Goroshkov had another 1 billion dollar price escalation for ski jump deck modification not taken in earlier "estimate" because drawing were not available
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Shankar wrote:
hankarji, just how effective will the fizzle bums carried by the arihant be in deterring anyone?
good question-it was rectified with limited Russian "assistance" -and Goroshkov had another 1 billion dollar price escalation for ski jump deck modification not taken in earlier "estimate" because drawing were not available
SDRE very chankian onree :mrgreen:
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Shankar ji,

Its U238 which gets coneverted to Plutonium239 by capturing a neutron. And usually PWR type nuclear reactors dont produce much superheat. INS Arihant could be a special design.
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News reports are filled with Chinese advances/intrusions in Indian sector.. ... looks like we need Vivek back sooner.
Or, who knows probably Chinese too reading Vivek scenario :). Just trying to re-write the scenario in their favor by acting themselves first.... hope latter never get true.
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For the first time since I started lurking around BR (3 years back) am seeing this thread going to the second page...Shankar, Vivek Ahuja and Vivek Sharma...spare some time for your fan boys saar...

And with this post I've brought it back in Page 1 again... :mrgreen:
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vivek_ahuja wrote:Gentlemen,

As Rahul said, I have been having one heck of a time with work off late, but that's behind me now. At the moment I am setting up my scenario to recap the various sector battles that had been going on before I kick the tires and light the fires.

Give me a few hours and I should be able to restart.

-Vivek
Vivek have you started the new scenario ? if yes pls let me know where is it?

Thanks

KM
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INS ARIHANT – SOME WHERE IN THE INDIAN OCEAN

Captain Vikram Chadda cleaned off his plastic plate with plastic spoon the last of micro heated idly and sambhar courtesy MDH food company . He like d the quite sub and he liked more the absence of diesel fume smell as in his previous kilo postings

The three year training in Russia was rigorous and that included the basics of nuclear propulsion and chemistry apart from the formidable arsenal of weapons Arihant carried at all times .Quite similar to an Akula 2 in fact ,his switch over was not so difficult .However it ok some time to get used to extra long patrol durations lasting some times as much as 110 days though usual ones were around 60-80 days.

The air conditioning was good and the air quality decidedly better than a kilo .The food was five star in comparison and hot water bath once a week was possible.

But his knowledge of nuclear chemistry was still bit rusty. He knew plutonium was produced as a by product as the enriched uranium went through fission reaction –not very sure how plutonium was produced –for example he was not aware that the U-238 impurity in enriched U-235 was in fact responsible for the production of valuable plutonium 239 which will be removed after about 3 years (five years from commissioning)of the submarine .

As he moved quickly to the state of the art combat centre surrounded by flat screen multi functional displays –the change over of command was quick and automatic

-captain has the con
- xo what are we tracking now
-sir we have a LA class – 300 meters-40 km -032 –outer screen of George Washington group-inwards to Diego Garcia – one Collins class – 081 -60km – 230 meters
- xo bring us to new course 275 – make depth 300 meters – reduce speed 10 kmph –innshort lets loose the traffic
- yes sir – helsman change course to 275 – make depth 300 meters
-engine room –reduce speed to 6 kmph

The massive submarine with a total displaced weight of nearly 9000 ton slowed as it turned and the dived to the inky depths of Indian Ocean
-Reactor room –con –report
- Captain – all system in green –output now 40% maximum- coolant temperature 165 deg - coolant pump no 1 on line – radioactivity level 7% maximum permissible – all batteries fully charged – slight vibration in the control rod stepper motor assembly – attending now
-Very well reactor room – let me know when you take care of the problem
- Missile room –report
- Captain all parameters in green – routine missile health check just finished
- Ok missile room – keep a close watch on those ignition circuit breakers

The conversation went on and on –all in a days work of Indias first ballistic missile submarine
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Ahuja Saab - Your few hours are getting a bit too long. To be precise it been 312 Hours. Await your post eagerly.

Now it seems Sharmaji has gone missing.
:roll:
:D :P
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PAKISTANI NAVAL BASE –KARACHI

Vice admiral Liyakat was happy with the progress of his top secret mission . Three 50000 ton bulk carriers have been modified to carry a full brigade of special forces to launch a surprise attack on Male .along with a sizable complement of armor and attack helicopters . All equipment will be carried in the open inside regular 40 ft shipping containers with the personnel in the holds. The container containing the equipment will come by road from near by army bases and loaded in broad daylight like any other cargo and the bill of lading will show machinery spares for the government of Maldives .The troops will embark last ,in the dark hours and ships will sail in a loosely formed convoy along international sea lane skirting Indian territorial waters –making first port of call at Colombo to maintain the façade of normal commercial shipping and then to Male to disgorge its deadly cargo . He did not anticipate much resistance from the small detachment of Indian army/navy personnel on the island and expected the island to be fully in Pakistani control in a matter of hours .A puppet government will be quickly installed who will grant a permanent basing right to China and Pakistan and then there will be very little that India can do about the situation except lodging strong protes with UN.

“OPERATION DARK SHARK” was at last under way .The disguised troop carriers will be protected all the way by three Agosta submarines and PLAN have promised additional assistance once a bridge head have been established and the necessary documents signed by the newly installed friendly government.

The Port of Karachi is Pakistan's largest and busiest seaport, handling about 60% of the nation's cargo (25 million tons per annum). The port is located at 24°50′00″N, 66°58′30″E (24.840000, 66.980000) between the Karachi towns of Kiamari and Saddar, close to the heart of old Karachi. The port is located close to the main business district of Karachi and several industrial areas. The geographic position of Karachi places the port in close proximity to major shipping routes such as the Straits of Hormuz. The administration of the port is carried out by the Karachi Port Trust which was established in the nineteenth century. The port comprises a deep natural harbor with an 11-km long approach channel which provides safe navigation for vessels up to 75,000 DWT. The main areas of port activity are two wharves – East Wharf with seventeen vessel berths and West Wharf with thirteen vessel berths. The maximum depth alongside the berths is currently 11.3 meters. The two wharves extend in opposite directions along the upper harbor – the West Wharf southwest from Saddar town and the East Wharf northeast from Kiamari Island

The flow of cargo to and from the port is hampered by severe congestion in the harbor with several other maritime facilities located close to the port. Adjacent to the West Wharf is the Karachi Fishing Harbor, which is administered separately from the port and is the base for a large fleet of several thousand fishing vessels. The West Wharf also hosts a ship repair facility and shipyard and a naval dockyard at the tip of the wharf, while to the south of the port are the Karachi Naval Base and the Kiamari Boat Club. The Port of Karachi also faces competition from a new private terminal located 5 kilometers away in the larger harbour west of the port. In recent years the federal government has attempted to alleviate the increased congestion in the harbour by constructing a second port in Karachi thirty kilometers east at Port Qasim and a third major port at Gwadar about 650 kilometres west of Karachi. The Karachi Fishing Harbour has been upgraded and a second fishing harbour is located 18 kilometers away at Korangi. The transfer of some naval vessels to the new naval base at Omara has brought about further reductions Karachi International Container Terminal (KICT) opened in 1996 at West Wharf berths 28-30. It has a handling capacity of 300,000 TEUs per annum and handles container ships up to 11-metre draught. The total quay length is 600 metres divided into two container berths. The terminal is equipped with three Panamax cranes and one post-Panamax crane.
Pakistan International Container Terminal (PICT) in 2002 at East Wharf berths 6-9. It has a handling capacity of 350,000 TEUs per annum and handles container ships up to 11.5 metre draught. The total quay length is 600 metres divided into two container berths. The terminal is equipped with two Panamax cranes.
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Can we havr sum update. Its weekend.
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You probably forgot use the word 'Please'
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Please can we have some update. Its weekend. :lol: :roll: :P
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Pretty Please.. Its been a week since the last post on the story was made... :cry:
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-INDIAN HIGH COMMISSION- -CITY OF MALE –MALDIVES

Major general Ray finished his preliminary tour of the embassy security assets and did not like what he saw . As an army mad he was trained to be prepared for the unexpected .In any unfired seen terrorist attack he was the person responsible for defending the civilian staff with his small contingent of 100 odd paras specially flow in just a few weeks back. While CRP personnel were deployed around the perimeter of the sprawling embassy compound the Special Forces group was responsible for the inner cordon security .He looked at the list on his hand and started making notes

- no chopper – need 2 at least for a speedy evacuation –to send request to army headquarters pronto
- only 4 INSAS 5.56 MM – need at least 10 more and atleast a truck load of ammo for a siege like situation
- at least ½ a dozen 81 mm mortar with one thousand rounds of shells
- a minimum stock of 500 anti personnel and 100 odd anti tank mines to protect the perimeter
- a mini operating theater for taking care of combat causalities
- 6sat radios
- 12 multi band radios for shore to ship and shore to air communication
- A dozen igla SAM launchers with 50 missiles per launcher

He intentionally kept the number high knowing the tendency of the MOD babus to cut everything by half before even looking at the indent
- nigh vision devices
- Kevlar body armor for all security personnel

He checked and decided to fax it in the evening when diplomatic traffic was at its lowest .
It was already 5 pm and he strolled out of the embassy compound for a few pegs of Royal challenge

he splendid Male Island is a paradise for food lovers. There are plenty of places to eat in Male, Maldives. The place offers such a wide variety of foods that you'll keep thinking for a while as to what to eat and what not to eat. Talking about what to eat in Male, the island gives you multiple options for eating out, which ranges from Western and European style to Asian including the finger licking Chinese food.

The restaurants out here in Male are pretty clean and provide a decent ambience. For people who are looking out for a reasonably good but less expensive place to eat, there are innumerable teashops available. They serve as the best place for tea time snacking. In every nook and corner, you can find teashops. But, there is one drawback of these small roadside restaurants that they are only for men. For women, we have myriad cafes, which are a little expensive than teashops, but they certainly maintain a standard.

Major general Ray loved the food and loved the drinks local restaurants offered. As he strolled down the main avenue –quite a few thousand kilometers away the first of the Pakistani troop carriers started embarking thousands of fully armed troops in palin clothes –destination Male
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Whoa, ur not planning to drop that Daisy Cutter thingie on the Puking ships, or r u :twisted:

By the way pls get that post here.
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