Ibrahim Lodhi was a vassal of the Rajputs.Babur invaded India , defeated Ibrahim and the main architect of his victory was the artillery
oh come on mate there was no need for that LETS STICK TO THE ARTILLERY FOR NOWsanjaychoudhry wrote:Ibrahim Lodhi was a vassal of the Rajputs.Babur invaded India , defeated Ibrahim and the main architect of his victory was the artillery
The real war for control of north India was fought between Babar and Rana Sanga. You will notice that all invaders -- from Ghori to Babar to British -- actually had to fight the final battle with the Hindus for the control of India. Muslims were merely a side show.
oh oh ok look what have I started. No let us not go to that topic. I was merely saying that the powers in India had neglected artillery then and are doing it now. That is all. Please do not read anything more in this.sanjaychoudhry wrote:Ibrahim Lodhi was a vassal of the Rajputs.Babur invaded India , defeated Ibrahim and the main architect of his victory was the artillery
The real war for control of north India was fought between Babar and Rana Sanga. You will notice that all invaders -- from Ghori to Babar to British -- actually had to fight the final battle with the Hindus for the control of India. Muslims were merely a side show.
Same feeling here.rkirankr wrote: I do not know when the arty thread will bring a smile on my lips
From the Pune Mirror...Web LinksBHARATRAKSHAK.COM
SHELL SHOCK
In a mysterious accident at the school of Artillery at Devlali, 25-year-old Lt KM Tripathi died. The incident is being investigated, while his family in Allahabad comes to terms with the news of his death
VISHAKHA SHARMA
In a freak accident that occurred on the firing range of the School of Artillery in Devlali, Lietenant K M Tripathi lost his life. Twenty five year-old Lt Tripathi who hails from Allahabad was part of a training gun firing session on Tuesday at around 11.30 am. He was one of the many young officers (YO) who were part of the 24-week course and was training to be an artillery officer.
Pune Mirror
spoke to Col A K Bhuyan, Col GS (SD) of the School of Artillery at Devlali who said, “Firing was going on for the YO’s course that commenced on July 28 at our ranges. In this firing session, Lt Tripathi was No 3 (number allotted according to the tasks a YO performs. No 1 is incharge of the gun). He was using a 105mm Indian Field Gun (IFG). The gun had already fired two rounds earlier and the third round was being fired by Lt Tripathi.”
“As he fired, the shell that was supposed to land in the impact area, at a distance of approximately 5 kms, landed at a distance of 5 to 10 metres. After getting out of the barrel, the shell, instead of landing at the impact area, burst there itself. One of the splinters, therefore, hit him on the right side of his chest and he was immediately taken to Military Hospital (MH). However, by the time he reached the hospital, he passed away,” continued Col Bhuyan.
When we asked him if the gun was defective, Col Bhuyan replied, “The gun was not defective. It had already fired two rounds earlier and in the third round too, the bullet had left the barrel. Besides, there is always a pre-firing inspection done by technicians from the electronics and mechanical engineering branch (EME), who checks the system for safety. There probably was a problem with the ammunition, which is why the shell burst. But at present, we can’t comment on the issue at all, as the investigation is on. The other YOs are alright and are firing today. The firing session is going on ”
“On September 23, in the evening, there will be a wreath laying ceremony to pay homage to the dead officer and after that, the body will be sent to Mumbai by flight. On the morning of September 24, the body will be sent to Allahabad.” added Col Bhuyan.
Vijay Mani Tripathi, father of Lt Tripathi, said, “I have not been able to go to Devlali. We are told that my son’s body will reach us in the morning on September 24. We are waiting for it. At this moment, I cannot say what went wrong and whom to blame.”
Ajay Mani Tripathi, the older brother of Lt Tripathi said, “We have been told that my brother died in an unfortunate accident. Right now, I can’t say whether it is true or not. I will find out only once I go there. We are not in a situation to speak. The atmosphere in my house is really very tense. My mother is unconscious at present.”
K M Tripathi
The 105mm Indian Field Gun which Lt K M Tripathi was using
Worst part is...I didnt see this being mentioned by any of the major news papers...Surya wrote:Sad - what a waste of a life.
bl**dy OFB and its QC !nikhil_p wrote:...........
rohitvats wrote:Now that the ghost of Q has been laid to rest, we may finally see movement in the Artillery procurement program. As it is, Bofors is known to be way ahead of all its rivals in terms of the technical parameters. May this be the Diali gift to the IA and its gunners. May 'God of War' be re surrected and retain its full glory
It was my understanding that U.S. doesn't buy phoren maal. How is it then that they are buying from BAE, a British company?There are indications now that the contract may swing in favour of BAE Systems Bofors, which manufactures the M 777 ultra light howitzer, that is being used by the American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sources say that the contract is being pursued through the foreign military sales route from the US, which has bought several thousand guns from BAE
The M777 howitzer is a towed artillery piece developed by British Vickers group, and is produced by BAE Systems Land Systems in the US.
Ok, so is it like the licensed production of Sukhoi's in India?Rahul M wrote:they don't buy foreign made maal. they simply license manufacture items in US if need be. abrams main gun for example is from rhinemetall. in most cases the big arms manufacturers have a US subsidiary anyway which does the job.
for example :The M777 howitzer is a towed artillery piece developed by British Vickers group, and is produced by BAE Systems Land Systems in the US.
It's perfectly possible to nab the Bofors criminals as well make sure that the Army has the artillery it needs. But then all political parties are almost equally complicit in looting the people. That's why the Bofors probe did not make sufficient progress even during the NDA period.Paul wrote:Dropping the Bofors probe is a step in the right direction. For 22 years this scandal has been used by politicians to embarass the INC...and it has wreaked havoc by the armed forces by putting crucial acquisitions on hold and blacklisting key arms merchants. We could not extradite and prosecute the CEO of Union Carbide, and if we could not extradite Win Chadda, Quattrochi, or other usual suspects for this long...there is no point in dragging it further. The only victor in this sorry episode are the left parties and the caste combinations of the plains.
I think the army drew the right conclusions from this scandal and probably did the right thing by pre-emptively ordering T90 MBTs from Russia. Notwithstanding the problems with the tank ( will be sorted out in time), India has one of the strongest tank forces in Asia.
If Bofors saga had repeated in case of armour, the state of the army would be even more pathetic. On the forum it could have driven jingos to drink, drugs, and suicide. We should thank General Paddy for preventing this from happening.
When the Army hasnt accepted the Arjun Tank, with one of the major complains being gun accuracy, why would it accept a DRDO howitzer?Pranav wrote: One question that remains unanswered for me - when DRDO can manufacture the 120mm Arjun gun, what's so hard about making a somewhat bigger 155mm gun?
As far as I know, the Arjun gun is pretty good, with a hit probability of 90%.aditp wrote:When the Army hasnt accepted the Arjun Tank, with one of the major complains being gun accuracy, why would it accept a DRDO howitzer?Pranav wrote: One question that remains unanswered for me - when DRDO can manufacture the 120mm Arjun gun, what's so hard about making a somewhat bigger 155mm gun?
Fire Power
The superior armour defeating capability of the indigenously developed Fin Stabilized Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FSAPDS) ammunition and 120 mm calibre rifled gun give MBT ARJUN an edge over contemporary world tanks. A computer-controlled integrated fire control system incorporating day-cum-night stabilized sighting system guarantees a very high first round hit probability and reduced reaction time to bring effective fire on targets.
The stabilization system for the main armament, slaved to the sighting equipment in elevation and azimuth, with a high and accurate laying speed, allows fire on the move.
The superior fire power of MBT is based on:
Accurate and fast target acquisition capability during day and night and in all types of weather .
Shortest possible reaction time during combat engagements
Ability to accurately engage targets on move
Capability to destroy all possible enemy armour at maximum battle ranges
Excellent first hit probability
Main Armament
The rifled 120 mm ARJUN gun together with the newly developed super velocity ammunition, can defeat any contemporary armour used in tanks. The electro-slag refined gun steel tube is autofrettaged to withstand higher gas pressures. A thermal jacket prevents irregular temperature distribution on to the tube due to the weather influences.
http://www.drdo.org/products/mbt.htm
At the end the rocket actually launches a payload of some sort of mini UAV. Is that a really what it is.Igorr wrote:Smerch video
The rockets used @ 2:17 are similar to this roundIgorr wrote:Smerch video
It sure does look like a neat UAV but after ejecting does it just recon the area or is also used to attack a target by colliding with it?AmitR wrote:At the end the rocket actually launches a payload of some sort of mini UAV. Is that a really what it is.Igorr wrote:Smerch video
Is there any more info.
This is ENICS 9M534 UAV for 300 mm Smerch. Is used for target recognition on 70 km distance and fire correction. pic.AmitR wrote:At the end the rocket actually launches a payload of some sort of mini UAV. Is that a really what it is.Igorr wrote:Smerch video
Is there any more info.
Small country's often dominate niche markets. For example, Japan trumps USA in consumer electronics market and if it wasn't for their post ww2 pacifist constitution I believe they would dominate the world in military technology too.SaiK wrote: sweden is anyway a small nation to compete against a big cold war hero.
Austin wrote:The most interesting piece of ammunition in Smerch is the anti-tank , it has a small MMW seeker as sensors , and as seen from video it keeps revolving and scans for target , once a tank is confirmed it blasts of the charges towards the tank in Top Attack mode.
The Russian trucks have a flat low profile and are very ruggedness, the IA Tatra truck in comparison looks more like babe in the woods
'Bazalt' manufactures guided cassette bombs with analogous top-attacking elements as well: linkPrem Kumar wrote: But a pretty awesome weapon for smart saturation bombing. The gap between guided and unguided projectiles is diminishing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-97_Sensor_Fuzed_Weapon
Two banned companies — a Singaporean firm vying for a billion-dollar order for artillery guns and an Israeli arms supplier — are hoping for a reprieve after the government today said it has amended the rules under which they were blacklisted in June. The defence ministry has amended the rules that may allow the companies to participate in trials and tests but not to conclude contracts before the CBI completes its investigation.
