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ramana wrote:If that is the case, the background of Oracle founders also should bother people.
Wrong comparision
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ramana wrote:If that is the case, the background of Oracle founders also should bother people.
That's why its always better to make everything at home, in few critical sectors.

USA prints dollars 'freely' and builds everything at home, by hiring best talents from around world. While we talk about following rules and fuking up ourselves.

So, what stops India from printing 'rupees' enough to fund domestic defense private R&D Complex in 'Critical technologies'(Communication+Space+Nuclear). Just one thing - 'political willpower'.
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vishwakarmaa wrote:
ramana wrote:If that is the case, the background of Oracle founders also should bother people.
That's why its always better to make everything at home, in few critical sectors.

USA prints dollars 'freely' and builds everything at home, by hiring best talents from around world. While we talk about following rules and fuking up ourselves.

So, what stops India from printing 'rupees' enough to fund domestic defense private R&D Complex in 'Critical technologies'(Communication+Space+Nuclear). Just one thing - 'political willpower'.
Inflation :roll:
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Nikhil T wrote:
15. Sanction was issued on 13 August 2009 for setting up a Research and Technology Centre in the Intelligence Bureau. 77 posts were also sanctioned.
77 posts is quite a lot! Sounds like its going to be a Tech nerve-centre of IB intel and operations. I wonder if they are going to do any research - since NTRO already does that... What kind of research would IB want anyway?
Hmmm.. only hear mentions being made of IB & RAW... I'm glad we have kept BPRD under wraps.
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BPRD??
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pravula wrote:
So, what stops India from printing 'rupees' enough to fund domestic defense private R&D Complex in 'Critical technologies'(Communication+Space+Nuclear). Just one thing - 'political willpower'.
Inflation :roll:
FDI also causes inflation. Does that mean we block it? We never block it, but we 'manage' it through bodies like FIPB by regulating the flow.

Same can be done with Defense Complex funding.

Also, if this short-term inflation brings "independence" in defense security matters, then its better than any other inflation.
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sum wrote:BPRD??
Bureau of Police Research and Development
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A Sharma

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Bogey bogie
Sadly, even if the "fear mongering" bit is true, it is not helping in getting hold of desperately needed artillery...
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Bogey bogie
very interesting read...
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A Sharma wrote:Bogey bogie

Awesome indeed!!

If true then at least some at top echelons are not sleeping.
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Hmm for the sheer helplessness, this is just an attempt to feel good about a hopeless situation.
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^^ By who?
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news ... 063466.cms

Defence officer discloses 'sensitive info' to fake caller
Believe it or not, a person apparently managed to extract some ``sensitive information'' from a senior military officer over the
telephone by posing as a joint secretary in the defence ministry.
The alert specifies that the person who made the telephone call was ``an official from a foreign embassy'' but does not name the country. Sources, however, said Pakistan was the primary suspect.
primary suspect???? Why is it so hard to get the identity of the caller...by identity i mean not the individual but at least the number and the exact location of the caller....
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So the Pakis knew that the civilians and the military were in phone contact and talk sensitive matters on open lines and used it.
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FWIW

http://www.ptinews.com/news/303773_Indi ... --incident
Indian Air Force denies "espionage" incident

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"The IAF strongly denies the media report written on the basis of hearsay. The report is full of untruth. At that senior level, no sensitive information is discussed over phone," IAF spokesperson Wing Commander T K Singha said here.

However, he said, the report of a circular on information security from the Defence Ministry's chief security officer routinely alerted officials, both in the Ministry and the Services headquarters, and warned them about the risks of discussing security matters over phone.
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Meanwhile, new responsibility comes Ministry way: tracking terror funds
The Government has decided to designate the Home Ministry as the sole counter-terrorism authority and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee has instructed the Revenue department to hand over the job of tracking terror funding to the Home department under P Chidambaram.

Top government sources told The Indian Express that the Revenue department under the Finance Ministry communicated last Wednesday that it was handing over to the Home department the monitoring, checking and prevention of terror funds reaching India. It said this decision had the concurrence of Mukherjee.
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Years ago Air HQ had procedures in place after calls were placed to officers.

So its doubtful this is a recent incident
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Good, two part writeup on national security thinking by Indian leadership

Part I
Emerging India: Insecure and unsafe


Part II
Why India needs nuclear weapons
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Brave Jammu girl takes on six terrorists, kills one

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/brave-jammu- ... om=rssfeed

* don't know which thread to put, so putting it here.
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Shores safer with Speedboats.

Two bulletproof speedboats will now enhance the security of the 124-km Mumbai coastline. Acquired at Rs5 crore, the two are the first set of speedboats ordered after the 26/11 attacks.

The boats -- Koyna worth Rs3.5 crore and Kaveri worth Rs1.5 crore -- were inaugurated by police commissioner D Sivanandhan at the Gateway of India on Tuesday.

"The new boats will help maintain round-the-clock vigil along the coastline," said Sivanandhan.

The 13-metre-long Koyna has been allotted to the Mumbai Sagari police and the nine-metre-long Kaveri has been given to the Yellow Gate police station.

The coastal police currently have 10 boats to guard the coastline. Three of these boats are used for joint patrolling by the police and customs, one is dysfunctional and one lies standby for VIP visits. "The boats we have now are slow. We would gradually replace the old boats with these new speedboats," Sivanandhan said.

When asked if the new boats are enough to ensure tight coastal security, Sivanandhan said the city needed at least 50.

"The state government has ordered 30 new boats which are expected in October. Of that, Mumbai will get at least six, while the rest will go to other regions," he said.


So against requirement of 50 Boats for Bombay region alone, the state govt has ordered just 30 for the entire state and earmarked just 6 boats for the city shores. This after 26/11 has happened. I am beyond the stage of not knowing whether to laugh or cry. :x :x :x
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China using Nepal study centres for spying?

Sachin Parashar

NEW DELHI: Incursions by the Chinese army into Indian territory may have dominated news space in the past few months but India's external
intelligence agency RAW has warned that a more serious issue at hand is the mushrooming of rather innocuously named Nepal-China study centres in Nepal which are being used by the Chinese to spy on India.

Highly placed officials in the government revealed that RAW has conveyed to the government that these study centres, which are located all along the Indo-Nepal border, are being used to clandestinely gather information on Indian activities. Sources said the agency has identified 24 such centres, most of which are located in close proximity to Nepal's border with India.


It is not just these study centres in Nepal which have left Indian agencies racking their brains. Sources revealed that RAW is monitoring around 30 Chinese firms which have set up base in Nepal and may be involved in spying on India.

Sources said most of these firms were headed by former PLA officers making it almost mandatory for India to keep an eye on their activities. They cited example of some construction and telecom companies which are active in Nepal and their operations are headed by retired Chinese army officers.

According to Indian officials, the speed at which the study centres have come up in the past few years is a manifestation of the way in which China has tried to increase its influence in Nepal. Beijing has been offering military and financial assistance to Nepal and its envoy in Nepal Quo Guohang said last month that if Nepal faces threats to its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, China would help it not only militarily but also financially and diplomatically.

"RAW is aware of the situation. These centres are mostly located close to Nepal's open border with India. There is an understanding developing within the government that if this continues, the issue will have to be taken up diplomatically with Nepal," said a senior security official. These study centres are mostly headed by Chinese and are supposed to provide an insight into Chinese customs, language and economic development.

China has gone out of its way to present itself before Nepal as an alternative to India in the past two years and has promoted multi-level interactions with Nepal and its people. Beijing is constructing a highway connecting Lhasa to Kathmandu at a cost of over $100 million. The two countries are seeing enhanced military cooperation. In September 2008, China announced a $1.3 million military aid package for Nepal and three months later PLA promised another $2.6 million for the same purpose.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news ... 074293.cms
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The running Panda lackeys of the chicoms supporting the previous UPA dispensation did their job well, in ensuring that the last Hindu kingdom in the world fell, and became a ChiCom puppey, hostile to our interests.

The Yechuri's and Karat's of this nation have much to answer for. Meanwhile, When a panicked US wanted to intervene against the Maoists, we told them to lay off our backyard, only to come up with a 'solution', which included handing power over to the Maoists! Incredible.

I wonder whether the situation can even now be retrieved, through the use of the offices of an as yet uncorrupted (formerly) Royal Nepal Army?
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Intelligence gathering and extracting meaningful message from such inputs is in a pathetic situation. These institutions are highly politicised and traitors have infiltrated in the system. A retired IB officer has authored a book recently. The contents are disturbing. Book contents are available on Scribd and needs wider reading.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11432079/India-Under-Siege
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Roll of NGO's in converting India into a soft target is not appreciated by many.
Most of them are funded by foreign Christian agencies.
Ranidranath's book has thrown light on this issue.
Prakash Karanth, present CEO of CPI(M) had written a booklet about 20 years back on funding of these agencies. Surprisingly, today the nexus between left and Christian NGO's is very strong, final agenda of both organisations being same.
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http://maloykrishnadhar.com/jagorecom-t ... ian-circus

"Youngistan" voters would do well to read this article by MK Dhar, former Jt Director IB, on the political process. Its hilarious, and very very cynical.
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AoA!!! Excellent news. Now, will someone please integrate all the Immigration data across the country, something that Intelwallahs have been trying to do for over 15 years.
MHA to make security data tamper-free
NEW DELHI: Days after unveiling the plan to set up a National Intelligence Grid (NATGRID) -- a world-class integrated national security database -- which will help in quickly accessing information about an individual, the Union home ministry on Thursday discussed ways to have a safeguard mechanism within the system so that the available data is not misused.

Home minister P Chidambaram, who chaired the meeting, is learnt to have discussed in detail implementation of this ambitious project without infringing upon the privacy of individuals whose details -- banking, insurance, immigration, income tax, telephone and internet usage -- will be on NATGRID. (Similar to the Siemens system which I posted on this thread. I wonder if they are using the Siemens Nokia system. I would think most likely that they are)

Besides officials of intelligence agencies, home secretary G K Pillai and representatives from National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO) and department of information technology also took part in the meeting, centered on "safeguard mechanism". The issue of safety of such data was discussed amid concerns in certain quarters over the possibility of compromising with individual privacy or its misuse if such details fall in the wrong hands.

An official, however, said: "A system of checks and balance will certainly be there. One should not be unnecessarily worried about it. Agencies can even otherwise access such details while investigating any crime-related case."

He explained that NATGRID would only help in achieving "quick, seamless and secure access to desired information" for intelligence/enforcement agencies in India.

The entire system would be in place in three phases within two years. In all, 11 central agencies including CBI, IB, RAW, Enforcement Directorate, NIA, Directorate of Revenue Intelligence and Narcotics Control Bureau will have access to the data as and when required.

The main data centre of the Grid will be located in the Delhi-based Multi-Agency Centre (MAC), which has already been linked to its regional centres -- SMAC (subsidiary MACs) -- in states and Union Territories (UTs) across the country.

Once this Grid is fully rolled out, it along with the ongoing project of the Crime and Criminal Tracking System (CCTNS) -- networking of all 14,000 police stations across the country -- will mark a quantum jump in India's ability to counter challenges of terrorism, naxalism and insurgency.

"Enlarging the scale and role of MAC and create a National Counter Terrorism Centre (NCTC), like the ones in US, are the other plans to strengthen the security and intelligence mechanism in the country," said an official.
Folks this is a big step forward. BUT! The data entry needs to be exact, or else the criminal can slip away. One minor mistake and the person can get away. As per my sources in the UK, this is a big issue.

How many civilians had to die for all these advances to be taken place. Its not even 1 year post 26/11 and look at the proposals that are being approved by MHA, which have been hanging for years.
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shyamd wrote: Folks this is a big step forward. BUT! The data entry needs to be exact, or else the criminal can slip away. One minor mistake and the person can get away. As per my sources in the UK, this is a big issue.
No where in the world data entry will ever be exact and precise and the sooner systems recognize the fuzziness in data and adapt to it - the better it is. what the systems should do (like UID) is to ensure identity resolution either through textual algos or better still through multi modal biometric - and against the identity hold the transactions and multiple surrogate identities (passport numbers, PAN cards, Bank accounts, Voter Id etc) - assuming UID No being the golden identifier.

If on the other hand, you meant that transactions or identities not being entered in the system (missing rather than exact) I would agree. Makes sense?
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Printed from

Spooks want govt to block Skype

Mohua Chatterjee, TNN 3 October 2009, 02:33am IST

NEW DELHI: Intelligence agencies have asked the government to consider blocking Skype as operators of the popular global VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) engine are refusing to share the encryption code that prevents Indian investigators from intercepting conversations of suspected terrorists.

The Cabinet Committee on Security has accepted the recommendation in principle but has not set a date for initiating action. The urgency to track Skype calls stems from the fact that terrorists -- as the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai showed -- are increasingly using VoIP services. The shift to VoIP has been prompted by the growing ability of intelligence agencies to intercept mobile and other calls.

Like the BlackBerry service, VoIP operators send their signals under a specific code which makes it difficult for others to decipher. Sources said Skype has shared its encryption code with the US, China and other governments but is refusing to accept similar Indian requests.

Since Skype is not registered here, Indian authorities have been forced to mull the drastic option of blocking its gateways here. This, however, may not be entirely effective as Skype can route traffic through other service providers. The agencies feel blocking the gateways will at least serve as a signal to local service providers against carrying traffic from Skype or any other similar service provider which does not share the encryption code with the government.

Sections 4 and 5 of the Telegraph Act gives government the right to grant licence for any kind of telephony and also the right to intercept. Last year, government amended Section 69 of the Information Technology Act to empower itself to take over servers of Net and telecom service providers and demand the encryption code. This may still be no remedy against recalcitrant overseas service providers who usually have their servers abroad. Last year, the government had a similar run-in with Canada's Research in Motion, BlackBerry makers and service providers, and the UAE-based satphone operator Thuraya.

Indian agencies are also keeping their fingers crossed, not sure whether the department of telecom -- with a stake in sectoral growth -- would like to lean on VoIP service providers on the issue of sharing encryption code. Besides, there's also a feeling that the government would be wary of people's response to the snapping of Skype. The free service is used by a vast majority of urban middle class Indians for communicating with families and friends spread across the world.

Last year, TRAI had sent a recommendation (with data from 2007), that Skype and Goggle should be asked to pay a licence fee, after being brought within the licence regime. However, government turned it down saying they were not based in India.
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Looks like fangs blunted during gujju days are being resharpened.
Abdul Majid Siddiqui alias Majid Manihar, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agent wanted by the Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra Police for supplying counterfeit currency notes and illegal arms in India, was found dead in a Nepal hotel on Tuesday.

Majid was found shot dead in the Nepalganj area of Banke district, about 8 km from UP's Bahraiajid, which was his native place. He was said to be close to Paras, the controversial erstwhile prince of Nepal, Mirza Dilshad Beg, a criminal-turned MP of Nepal who was killed in 1998, and mafia don Dawood Ibrahim, said to be in Pakistan under the ISI's protection.

At a press conference on Tuesday, additional director general of UP Police Brijlal said Majid had become a threat to his ISI bosses. He was gunned down by two of his aides.

While Majid had been staying in the hotel for the past few days, two of his friends and the suspected ISI agents joined him two days ago.

"The ISI decided to get Majid eliminated because he had turned dangerous for them. After his son's arrest by the Indian and Nepal police, they were worried he would spill the beans in exchange for the youth's release," Brijlal said. "It is clear the ISI is behind his killing. We are awaiting more information."

A close aide of King Gyanendra, he was allegedly privy to the secret behind the shootout in King Bijendra's Kathmandu palace on June 1, 2001. Bijendra, queen Aiswarya and prince Dipendra were killed in that shootout. Majid, the ISI reportedly feared, would surrender in India and reveal all his associates and their activities.

According to a police officer from Bahraich, Majid had broken down after his son Javed Siddiqui alias Vicky Manihar was arrested on August 28. Vicky was nabbed in a joint operation by the anti- terrorism squad (ATS) of the UP Police, Bahraich police and Nepal's Banke police.

Sources said Majid had tried to strike a deal for Vicky's release.

However, he later decided to own up to all the crimes, including those committed by Vicky.

Vicky reportedly told the ATS that his father was not only working for King Gyanendra and his son Paras but also for the ISI. "Ever since I can remember, he had been supplying counterfeit Indian currency.
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Some good news on the war against Islamist terror from Britain.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/br ... 54830.html
British spies: growth in Islamist threat halted
By JILL LAWLESS

The Associated Press
LONDON — Britain's domestic spy service thinks the threat from Islamist terrorism has stopped growing but remains severe, with terrorists eager to acquire weapons of mass destruction, according to the first authorized history of the agency.

Christopher Andrew, author of 'The Defence of the Realm, The Authorized History of MI5' poses for the photographers holding a copy of his book, following a news conference in central London, Monday Oct. 5, 2009. To mark the centenary of its foundation, the British Security Service, MI5, has opened its archives to an independent historian, the first time any of the world's leading intelligence or security services has taken such a step. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

Christopher Andrew, author of 'The Defence of the Realm, The Authorized History of MI5' poses for the photographers holding a copy of his book, following a news conference in central London, Monday Oct. 5, 2009. To mark the centenary of its foundation, the British Security Service, MI5, has opened its archives to an independent historian, the first time any of the world's leading intelligence or security services has taken such a step. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

Christopher Andrew, author of 'The Defence of the Realm, The Authorized History of MI5' is seen following a news conference to present the book, in central London, Monday Oct. 5, 2009. To mark the centenary of its foundation, the British Security Service, MI5, has opened its archives to an independent historian, the first time any of the world's leading intelligence or security services has taken such a step. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

"The Defence of the Realm," by Cambridge University historian Christopher Andrew, was commissioned by the agency, MI5, to mark its 100th anniversary this year — the first time a major intelligence agency has granted an outsider access to its secret files.

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The 1,000-page volume, published Monday, describes an organization that fought Hitler with stunning success but struggled to combat Soviet espionage during the Cold War and initially failed to grasp the threat from Islamic extremism.

Andrew claims MI5 was "slow to see the coming menace of Islamist terrorism." The book says the agency's then-head, Stella Rimington, had never heard the name al-Qaida until a meeting in Washington in 1996, during which MI5 representatives were "taken aback by the interest" in Osama bin Laden shown by the Americans.

That changed with the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Since then MI5 has foiled several major terrorist plots against Britain, including a plan to blow up trans-Atlantic airliners using liquid explosives, for which several British Muslims were sentenced to life in prison last month.

It failed to stop the July 7, 2005 London transit bombings, which killed 52 bus and subway passengers, and Andrew said al-Qaida-inspired terrorists remain determined to kill even more people with chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

"It is not a question of if, it is a question of when such weapons will be used," he said.

The book says that in 2000, MI5 — without realizing it at the time — foiled a plot by al-Qaida to obtain biological weapons when it found samples and equipment in the luggage of a Pakistani microbiologist, Rauf Ahmad, who had attended a conference on pathogens in Britain. U.S. intelligence later revealed that Ahmad had been in touch with al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The book quotes MI5 chief Jonathan Evans as saying that recent counterterrorism successes have had "a chilling effect on the enthusiasm of the plotters."

The book says MI5 now believed that "though a major Islamist terrorist attack would remain a serious danger for the foreseeable future, the observable threat had stopped increasing."

But, Andrew added, "it is too early to tell whether the 'chilling effect' is a short-term fluctuation or a long-term trend."

The book — its title comes from MI5's Latin motto, "regnum defende," defend the realm — traces MI5's growth from a staff of two people in 1909 to more than 3,000 today.

Andrew says its biggest success was during World War II, when MI5 captured most of the German spies in Britain and turned 25 of them into double agents. He said that without them, the D-Day invasion in 1944 would not have succeeded.

"It was, as Wellington said about Waterloo, 'a damned close-run thing.' If the deception of the Germans hadn't been as good as it was, I don't think it could have happened," Andrew said.

Andrew said his favorite discovery among 400,000 MI5 files was the revelation that on the eve of World War II the agency tried to warn Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain about the Nazi threat by informing him that Adolf Hitler regularly insulted him with a vulgar expletive. "The insult ... made a considerable impression on the prime minister," the book notes.

Andrew regards MI5's biggest failure as the inability for decades to expose the "Cambridge Five" — highly placed British intelligence agents who were spying for the Soviet Union from the 1930s onwards.

The book, published in the United States Nov. 3, is part of MI5's gradual opening-up to public scrutiny. Until the early 90s, the government would not even confirm the agency's existence, but it now advertises for recruitsin newspapers and is opening its older files to the public.

Former MI5 chief Stephen Lander, who commissioned the authorized history in 2002, said the book was intended as a way of "reaching out beyond the myths and misunderstandings" about Britain's spies.

The book paints a largely positive picture. Although British spies have recently been accused of complicity in the torture of terrorist suspects held abroad, Andrew says the vast majority of agents over the decades have rejected torture.

"Every time I have come across examples in the files ... it is stopped," he said.
October 05, 2009 10:00 AM EDT
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shyamd wrote:AoA!!! Excellent news. Now, will someone please integrate all the Immigration data across the country, something that Intelwallahs have been trying to do for over 15 years.
as per the MHA action plan update as of sep 2009 available at http://www.mha.nic.in/pdfs/AAP.pdf, section on Foreigners/ point 5 and 6 - talk about a Mission Mode project for Visa, Foreigner's tracking and IMmigration revamping as well as BPR of Foreigner's division. The dates are all this financial year for actual kickoff.
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UK leak warns of growing Chinese tech spying
The 2,389 page document, in its estimate of Chinese intelligence aims, says, “Chinese intelligence activity is widespread and has a voracious appetite for all kinds of information; political, military,commercial, scientific and technical. It is on this area that the Chinese place their highest priority and where we assess that the greatest risk lies.

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It may be out of topic, but it seems to be the most suitable thread to ask.
i need some information regarding recruitment process for RAS cadre.
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A good write-up on Indian presence in Afghanistan

Pakistan warns India to 'back off'
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Its a nice read.
Its unlikely US will associate with northern alliance warlords in short term,in first hand. However,as a silent strategy of US led occupation, training and enhancing strength of afghan forces is very important to decide future scenario in Af-Pak policy.

Also, taking in account of recent attacks in peshawar and rawalpindi army camp.. it is clear that there is considerable strike capability with sections of talibans not aligned with ISI.The same statement can be analyzed in other ways as well.

As the article states, the panick state of ISI or pak has more to do with increasing US reach to PAK's strategic assests than india playing construction game in Afghanistan.

Whoever controls afghan and in future balochistan will have a say in deciding major course of actions by asian power.
I hope the recent US-Iran summit reach to some pro Af-Pak conclusion.
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Pakistan ISI Station Chief in Delhi dies of electrocution

In a significant development, the Pakistan ISI station chief, MK Afridi, at its High Commission in Delhi got electrocuted “ while drying his hair late Sunday night at his Vasant Vihar residence” and died. His body was taken to Pakistan via Wagah border in the wee hours of morning after intervention at the highest levels.

Government sources told The Indian Express that Pakistan High Commission told the local police that Afridi, who held the post of Counsellor, was electrocuted as he was using a dryer after having bath in the evening at his Vasant Vihar residence. Apparently as no foul play was suspected, no post mortem was conducted. It was at the diplomatic intervention that Pakistan High Commission was allowed to transport the body to Pakistan. It is learnt that the Pakistan High Commission officials took the body via road at 3.00 am this morning and the entourage crossed Wagah around 8.00 am.
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Why such a hurry? :shock:
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If the man really was an ISI agent, the pukes wont wnat any formal investigation by any Indian agency. Or maybe he too was finished off by the ISI itself for some reason, just like Abdul Majid Siddiqui in Nepal.

Or maybe some Indian agency just finished its research thesis :twisted:
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